June 15, 2025

(no music) Sunday ChitChat | LMBYTS #1375 | 15th June 2025

(no music) Sunday ChitChat | LMBYTS #1375 | 15th June 2025
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Hello, and welcome to Vinnie and me. This is let

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me boy, you to sleep. Then he's just he was

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in bed, were both having a little lie down. I

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got up and came in here, and now Vinnie's got

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up and he's just pushed the door open and come

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in and staring at me for some reason. Were he's

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staring at me for Vidy for for vidy. H Oh.

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I had a little nap. I've been tired all day

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because I got up at half past one this morning

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to watch the boxing, and that went on to about four,

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maybe half past four, and then maybe five in fact.

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Then I went back to bed and I haven't really

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I haven't really got my sleep back as it were.

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I haven't really. Yeah, it's been a bit, a little

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bit tired, but I'm better. Now, that's better. I'll stopped.

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Ordered good, I'll stop in a minute. Don't worry what

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door yawns will completed at some point. So this is

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let me boy to sleep. Please only listen when you

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can safely close your eyes. And today is Sunday, the

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fifteenth of June to dands and a twenty five. I

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haven't really necessarily particularly accomplished much today. I'm just trying

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to think, what have I done? Only shower and did

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a bit of work on the website, a little bit

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of work on the podcasts, or I did a new thing.

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A new thing. I put together all of the last

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seven days let me Buoy to Sleep podcast episodes into

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just one recording. So I've done that today. And the

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problem with that is I had to put Whisper Wednesday

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last because I couldn't really have the Whisper Wednesday and

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then going back to talking at a kind of normal volume,

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it's yeah, it's just and work. So I had to

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I put that at the end of the recording. So yeah,

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I'm thinking of maybe doing that again next week. So

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basically it's Sunday to Saturday, and I do it on

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a Sunday, so it's those seven days open. He then

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he's hearing some summer in the garden and he's very interested. Wow,

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I'm such a yawning head. I remember I got a

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message years ago someone saying I don't like it when

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you yawn. Ah, wow, just I don't like it when

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you Well, nobody, and I do mean nobody on the

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planet can tell me off for yawning. I don't know

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if I yawn, I yawn, I would you. I don't

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like him. Who cares, I don't care if you like

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it or not. I'm not yawning to make people feel

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wonderful or to make people feel anything. Just yawning because

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I'm yawning. There's no hello, oh yawd it because I'm tired.

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I'm yawning because I'm thinking about yawning. And I'm probably

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yawning because I'm trying not to yawn, which is CAUs

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is in me to yawn even more. Yes, mm hmmm, sniffy, sniff.

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I was wondering if I've got a little bit of

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I get a little bit of a hay fever these days,

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because I've had a few a few days, a few times,

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maybe not the whole day, but where I just seemed

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to come down with a cold. But then then it's gone,

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I'm sniffling, coughing, sneezing, and then me, you know nothing,

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So I don't maybe that maybe maybe I am a

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little bit affected by the pollen. Perhaps I did live

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in the countryside, so there's no getting away from it. Really,

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it's this is it non It's non stop pollen, I

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imagine around here. But yeah, no, it's not. It's not debilitating,

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so I don't it's not going to bother me. It's weird.

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I just get a little bit a bit sniffily, tho,

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I'm not a sniff keep sniffing, because that's grim. I

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remember when I was in the call center. I think

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it was the last call center I rugged in. I

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had this bloke on the phone and he was sniffingly.

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I think I had like full on cold. It almost

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sounded like the phone was up his nose. Seriously, I

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could put the end of the phone up his nose

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and all I could to hear, and it was just

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I did not enjoy that phone call. You can't shout

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through the phone. Can you please blow your nose before

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we continue? I mean you could include that in the ripped,

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but probably gets sacked. You know the script that you

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say at the beginning, all course that recorded. I remember

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when I did that first, because I worked at Churchill

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September two thousand and one. I think it was the

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the ninth. I'm not sure. I don't have my calendar,

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but anyway, it's the Monday and whatever the Monday was

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that week, and it was pretty easy. I didn't realize

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how easy it was until it started getting more difficult

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because we just asked the questions and that was it.

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And then about six months seven months in, they walked

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around and handed us a script and they said, you're

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going to have to read or team leader said, you

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have to read this out to the customer right at

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the beginning of the call, before proceeding with a car quotation.

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I have to read the whole thing out. It was

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just one page, but it was a good thirty seconds

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of talking, and it was laminated, I think, so membized

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twiddle with it and flick it around so it turned

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around in my hand. I thought it might impress some

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of the girls. Oh was I So? I was nine

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at the time, you see. I remember looking at and

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thinking when the team leader said, oh, you have to

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read this big long script out before and then it

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gave us another script. You have to read this out

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and before taking payment, and you also have to read

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this script out before. You know, before the end of

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the call, I was really talking about Willis, and my

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team leader took me aside and said, stop calling me Willis.

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He didn't know what a reference was from because he

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was about I think he was about eleven. My team leader.

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I was what thirty one, so he was a little

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bit younger than me. What are you talking about, Willis?

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He didn't he didn't get the reference. A lot of

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people won't get the reference. And it doesn't matter because

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all it does is make me look really old. It's

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really old. He was referencing something from the late seventies. Wow,

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I put it a full different person. Sounds similar when

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I do it, but I put it a fall. There's

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the other one. I can't but oh I love it

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where I love it when I'm playing calms together. That

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was him smoking a cigar. Yeah, the eighteen that was

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such a huge show. It's weird. I mean, are there

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any big TV shows now on television? I don't mean popular,

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but are there any shows which are just called the

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imagination of the population of the Western world in a

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sense of action? Figures and books, comics, Easter eggs with

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pictures of it on? You know, the toy, the toy

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the main toy for Christmas that year is this thing?

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I mean, I don't know. I suppose pepper Pig. That's

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one thing that was pretty huge on it. SpongeBob sponge

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Pants was a big character. Wasn't he Simpsons. But we're

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going back like quite a few years. I remember the Simpsons, right,

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I remember watching it. And then after a few years

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of watching it, it became for some reason, it became

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really popular. It's almost like it was around for a

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while and then the newspapers noticed it and it was

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put on. You know, the newspapers thought it was for kids,

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and it's not a kids show at all, never was

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a kids show. And it's an adult show. It's adult humor. Yeah,

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it was put on in this country like six o'clock

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in the afternoon, and the press were all focusing on

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Bart Simpson and eat my shorts and all this stuff,

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and as it was plastered everywhere, when Bart Simpson is

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not the star of the show. His dad is. And

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it's just really strange the way they interpreted it. I mean,

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it's e's A's star, but he's not the star. Homer is.

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He is the king of that show, and Marge is

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the queen. But it's about It's about Homer Simpson, isn't it.

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Do you know anyone now that says, oh, oh, oh

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like that they still do that? Do you know when

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that still does that? I ssted to know people that

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did that, and they do it, and they did it

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for decades. And I didn't know why. I knew why.

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I knew it was, you know, because Homers Simpson goes, oh,

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don't I know do isn't it dope, don't whatever? And

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but I didn't kind of understand why humans were doing it.

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Does anyone know anyone who does that? Because I've known

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people some of the other days said they said, lowell

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to me. Now, I really like this person, so I'm

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not going to say anything bad. I just the other

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another person said it to me years ago. I liked

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like that person as well, so but I just found

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it like what loll not. They didn't laugh, they just

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went loll. I was like, Okay, I can't keep up.

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I can't keep up. I tell you what's needed, squeakies

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in the garden. I'll tell you what's needed. Is I

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think the old people, the old ones, the old ones,

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need to start doing their own language, put together their

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own sayings, their own little coded chat. Yeah, just to

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confuse the the youngins. Oh, we just can continue to

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confuse the young uns by talking how we've always talked.

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It's is sometimes it feels like a different language, a

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different language. I'm sounding ancient and I like a like

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a dusty old It's got to say dummy, but not dummy,

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not model dummy. Is it a dummy, the dummy the

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other thing wrapped up in in bandages. Mummy, not dummy, mummy,

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it's mummy, you dummy, mummy? What would you call it? Mummy? Oh,

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by the way, happy Father's Day if you if you

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celebrate such a thing in the In UK, England, Britain,

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we have Mother's Day and Father's Day, but some other

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countries also celebrate it, having on a different date. So

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Mother's Day was ages ago and Father's Day in the

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UK is today. So yeah, happy fat as, happy fart

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as Day, wherever you may bee. Yeah. I never received

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a fart as Day card. Never. Never, I've been a

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farther if. I father, father, Sorry father, I wonder what

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that's like to actually be a parent. I guess I'm

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never gonna know him. I but just imagine. I know

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a lot of people listen to this are parents and

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they know exactly what it's like. But I don't. I

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really don't. I can't. I can't really get my head

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around it. It's a little bit like, what's it like

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to be a goldfish. I don't know goldfish. No, but

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I don't know what's it like to be six foot seven.

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I'm never going to know what it feels like to

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be six foot seven. I mean, even if I wore

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stilts to make myself a that height, you know, there's

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limits to what I can do. I can't like to

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spend my whole life with those stilts on supermarkets, for example,

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that they have an issue with stilts. I've never understood

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that they try and go into Sainsbury's otesco Is in

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this country, which is a grocery supermarket. Oh, can you

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please take the stilts, officer, But they don't stop anyone.

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It's actually naturally six foot seven. They don't check them

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for stilts. Check me. That's a thing, right, If you're

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gonna wear stilts, don't wear shorts. That's the problem. You

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need to get extra long trousers so it looks and

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you need to sort of get some kind of so

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it looks like you've got feet to the stilts on,

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because otherwise it don't work. It was just like wooden pegs,

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because I'm sure you can get stilts to armwood. But

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I'm sticking to the old fashioned stilts. I used to

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have stilts when I was a kid. We used to

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make stilts. It used to be fun. I don't think

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i've ever been on a professional stilt. Is this such

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a thing as a professional stilt? And a pogo stick?

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Wouldn't that be quite a good way to actually travel.

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It'd be a much faster way, wouldn't it, and potentially

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more fun. You're like a really good pogo stick, one

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that I'm not saying one that bounces really high, but

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bounces that are maybe mechanical bounce, you know, so you

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don't have to do anything. You just land and it

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just pushes you up and at a height that it

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wouldn't matter if you felt you could be fine. So

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maybe a height of two feet or three feet, so

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you're always going to be you know. Health and safety

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is important. That's why I went to where I wear

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and no I said that last time so stilt. I

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started listening to some of my old recordings. I can't

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believe some of the things I say. Wow, honestly, some

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of the things that slip out of my bum now

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my mouth is ridiculous. It's just so silly. And the

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other day he might not heard it. I was talking

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about the different pronunciations in America and England. So there's

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like David Bowie. I mean, I know he's not American,

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but it was like, is it Bowie is a Bowie?

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No one cared, even he didn't care. It's Bowie, No,

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it's Bowie. I actually, as a kid, saw people get

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into an argument, like a proper, you know, emotional argument

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over how to pronounce David Bowie's name. Can't be I

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can't imagine there's anything less important to anyone else except

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David Bowie or David Bowie. And I think I was

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talking about like the soaps, because we used to say, well,

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there was an argument. In my it wasn't like a

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big argument, but there was definitely a heated discussion because

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in the early eighties, very early eighties, there was like

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so many soap operas from America that were coming over,

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and unlike the soaps here which would be on regularly,

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So Coronation Street would be on I think back then

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probably twice a week, increased over the years maybe three

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times a week, but it was on quite regularly. East

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Enders hadn't started yet. Emma Dale Farm was on a

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few times a week. I think Coronation Street, I'm not

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that might still been on a few times a week,

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maybe every night, but these American soaps were or we

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got to see them once a week, and they were

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huge compared to because ours were just grotty. We all

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just had really grotty, kind of dull, gray soaps, a

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bit like the country can be a bit like that,

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you know, in this country quite gray. And I said

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that the other day. It's a still lovely, but it's

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very you know, it's not the most colorful place at times.

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I mean there's months and months where it's just gray.

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It's just what is going on. And Coronation Street and

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Emmadale Farm, which is based on a farm, and that

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was never going to be very particularly colorful. Coronation Street

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was based in these just old fashioned streets, and Emma Dale,

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I was it. Coronation Crossroads was based in a motel

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I liked. I liked Crossroads. We used to have actually

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hospital hospital hospital. It was a soap bo It was

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about no is in the hospital, maybe doctors General. Was

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it General Hospital? I'm pretty sure it was English General Hospital.

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And I can't believe that I remember. I just had

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a memory that I have not had for years and

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years and years and years and years, and just when

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I lived in Newcastle, General Hospital was on and I

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think I was running downstairs to you know what, we

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could see a hospital from our I'm pretty sure from

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the from the flats that I lived in there was

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a big high rise flat block of flats. Could see

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a hospital. I'm sure I could. I just got these

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little memories of the hospital and the TV show though

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and where I lived at the time, and I used

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to watch it. Wow, there was a bloke on there

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with a bit with a mustache. Yeah, he had a

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mustache and a white coat. I don't remember the tune

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the you know, the theme tune welcome to General Hospital.

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We are a hospital and we are general. I don't know.

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I don't know what the theme tune was. I can't

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really think of any other soaps in the early eighties

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that was on that I used to watch. I mean,

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in the middle eighties we got all the well, we

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got like a lot of the Australian soaps, so Neighbors

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which is a massive hit, and then Home and Away

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which is also a massive hit, and then I think

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then prison Cell Block h I'm not sure when that

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came out. I know, I used to watch it when

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I was probably about sixteen seventeen and probably say sixteen,

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I used to watch Prisoner Cell Block H but it

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used to be on late at night and B B

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was the the one in charge. B White B and

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Missus Mangle. She was in Neighbors, Henry Bishop was in

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Home and Away. Wow. But you know what the one

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Australian soap that I personally think was the best out

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of all of them and never got its credit because

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it wasn't on peak time. He used to be on

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in the afternoons. I don't know when they first started

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showing it, but I think it'd been around a long time.

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I got completely addicted to it in nineteen eighty six

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and it's called Sons and DAWs now. That show. It

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was on every day. It knew I think it was

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every day anyway. It knew how to do a cliffhanger.

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It did the best cliffhangers, like the I can't think

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of anything. Bearing in mind, I was a proper TV

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buff back then. You know, TV and books, and when

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I got to about twelve, you know, but generally TV

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and books was kind of my favorite thing. Yeah, Doctor

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Who used to have good cliffhangers. But what I noticed

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happened even like the A Team, or it's kind of

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obvious that I don't know, like a TV show that

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was let's say it was the eighteen or wonder Woman.

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Wonder Woman was trapped inside a I don't know, chocolate

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chocolate box covered in cream, but it was sea through

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so you could watch her get changed. No, no, sorry, no,

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I'm just saying that it was that was and she

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couldn't get out of it, but she the only way

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she could get out of it is by getting trying

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on lots of different costumes. See, I was a kid.

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This is what I used to think about back then.

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Not now, that's just wrong. I wouldn't think about that,

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but I was. I was young and childish, so she'd

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be in this chocolate seafrough box trying on various nineties.

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I don't know why I'm Stuff like that just makes

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you feel ill, just like just cover up. That's how

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I feel now. But you know, I was a teenager

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as well as what ten whatever, so eleven ten nine.

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I love Wonder Woman, but now I'm just like, God,

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that is so gratuitous, and it's really you know what

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about equal rights people. But back then I loved seeing

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her bounce around. Not now I've seen it recently, and

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I'm just disgusted that that used to be on television

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for the populace to look at that. That TV show

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is on television. Not that as in her, but the

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TV show. I think they really took advantage of her

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good nature and getting a running around in that skimpy

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Wonder Woman costume. I think only tell it in the

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window as soon as you be getting hot in here.

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What was I talking about? Erection? No, no, h sons

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and daughters. Yeah, oh, they all the the way they

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used to leave it. Cliffhangers. Cliffhangers. Amazing. Now Doctor Who

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used to be really good at that. But I noticed,

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like I don't know when it started happening, not just

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Doctor Who, but even other TV shows. Something happened where

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they would so, for example, I was doing that was

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so wonder Woman. Let's just think of the scenario. So

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Wonder Woman's in this this steel cage, but it's see

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through again. Well there's a big X ray machine so

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you can see through the still no stop that, So

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Wonder Woman is she's chained by her ankles and she's

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hanging upside down and there is there's an animal on

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the floor. No one knows what the animal is because

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no one can remember because no one is looking at

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the animal. But you know she's in danger, imminent danger,

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and like do do do do do do do do

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do do? And like will she will wonder woman survive?

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Will wonder woman succumb to this imminent threat? Will anyone

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be able to? Will anyone be able to tell us

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what the animal was that was on the floor? You know?

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So all week long, I'd be waiting. I mean I

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wouldn't just literally just be sitting there waiting if on

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the TV for a whole week till the next Saturday,

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because unfortunately, the schooling system we have here does not

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account for that, doesn't take consideration for important television programs.

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And then I'd go back the next week and I'd wait.

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I didn't go back. I'd be there because that's where

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I lived, but I'd be not in that cage with

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an X race so you could see through it. No,

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what I mean is at home, and we'd all be there.

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We'd all be there for different reasons, watching it. And

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my older brothers would I think my oldest brother would

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watch it for attle while, then he'd leave, and then

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they'd come back, and then my other brother would leave

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and come back. I don't know what they were doing.

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I just seemed to be It's almost like they'd taken turns.

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I think they must have had a had bad stomachs

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or something. He didn't have that toilet And then my

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dad's moaning, where's the toilet roll gone? Where's it all gone? Well,

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I don't know. I'm watching Wonder Woman and I need

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toilet roll. Well, we all need something, don't we. I

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need to be able to watch Wonder Woman in peace,

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is what I thought to myself. I'm not gonna be

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saying it out loud, and you'd see her escape. So

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she'd so wobble, not wobble, but like move from side

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to side and managed to I mean, the abdominal strength

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that she must have had to do that to be

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able to lift herself up and from that angle and

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and we'll get back and break the chains, but climb

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up so that she didn't land. Whatever. I don't know

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what the animal it could have been a shark, I

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don't know, could have been a hedgehog. I don't know

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what the hell it was on the floor that she

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didn't want to land on. And yeah, she is. I

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mean she'd been there for I mean I was young,

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but I like, I was thinking, she's been there a week.

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Why has no one got on a sort of a

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cup of tea and a donut or something. She's been

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there because there was nothing on her face. She wasn't

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her face wasn't covering anything like you think, because if

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she was eating upside down, your face would like sugar

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on and all kinds of stuff, wouldn't it. Because I'm

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not messy anyway. When I eat, it goes all down

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my top. Trying to eat, even try to eat upside down,

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it's practically impossible. But if you was upside down for

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a week, you kind of have to, wouldn't you learn

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have to learn how to But there was no mess.

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She looked exactly the same as she did a week ago,

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which is pretty amazing. I know she's a superhero and everything,

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but it was Yeah, I couldn't really get my head

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around that. But you know, I was, I was seven

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years old. Don't don't blame me. Wow, it's not my fault.

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I didn't write the script. I didn't I didn't. I

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didn't direct it. I didn't. I didn't know. I thought

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it was real. I thought it was a documentary. I

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waited all week for that. So I went and like

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and she escaped. Then that was exciting all week, waiting

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to find out if Wonder Woman escaped from that being,

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you know, chained upside down in a some kind of box,

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seafrough box or something, I don't know, whatever it was. No,

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it's in a warehouse. It was in a warehouse or

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was she in a tree? I remember when she she

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spun around and she turned into her what was it

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like a swimmer. And she also had an invisible plane.

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That was funny. I don't know even I found that

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a bit funny. It's an invisible plane. Yeah, she wasn't

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invisible me. You could argue it was a wonder woman.

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She wasn't the invisible wonder Woman. She was wonder woman. However,

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if you're an invisible plane, it doesn't really make sense

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if you can be seen, does it. Oh, there's this.

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It's fine. It sounds like a plane, but I can't

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see anything. Can't you see wonder woman there sitting in

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the clouds? Oh? Yeah? Was she sitting on I don't

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know if it's making a lot of noise whatever it's

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in betweing's noise. It's a plane. It sounds like a plane.

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It's a big plane. It's a plane. But it's invisible.

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It can't be a plane or what else would vibrate like that.

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It's a plane. I don't know. If it's a plane,

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it's got to be. It must be invisible. Yeah, that's

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that's what it is. It's an invisible plane. You think

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it'd make her invisible, though, wouldn't you. That's what I'm

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trying to point out. Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman, that was

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my favorite TV show. I probably preferred Wonder Woman over

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there Hulk, although I did love the Hulk as well.

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And a six million dollar Man or a bionic man?

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Who else? Kung Fu? He was a superhero Batman, of course,

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but the Batman's were from the sixties and I was

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watching him in the eighties. Although it's still great. They

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still are great even now. I think the original Batman

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shows they're funny. I don't even remember seeing Superman TV

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shows until Lewis and Clark in the nineties. Was it

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Lewis and Clark? Yeah, Lewis and Clark. That was huge,

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hugely successful in this country. That was peak viewing time

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on a Saturday night. But now Doctor Who and a

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lot of shows for the last twenty odd years or

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even more, maybe they'd have a cliffhanger and then it's

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say next week, tune in next week. So you've got

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Doctor Who in a cage, you know, in a in

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a box and trapped, and then it's what's gonna happen

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as you it's a daralic. There's a darlic. Oh, a

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darlic eating a sandwich or whatever. And then oh, no,

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the squirrel is going to get him. Always a dark

464
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.800
going to get him first, or a squirrel. There's there's

465
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:39.559
a crazy squirrel a baseball bat. And then they say

466
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.280
tune in next week, and they show you him sort

467
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:48.280
of in a hammock eating some war melon and we've

468
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.519
playing a harpsichord or whatever. It's like not at the

469
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:59.159
same time, but it's like, well, clearly he escaped. It's

470
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.920
not much of a cliff if you tell us, not

471
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.880
just tell us, but show us, show us, show us,

472
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:13.280
show us that Doctor Who escaped. Dear Jason, I just

473
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.199
wanted to point out, firstly, I think the way you

474
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.639
were talking about wonder woman was wrong. Secondly, I think

475
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.320
that you need to know that it's not doctor who

476
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:31.039
it's the doctor. And secondly, the way you were talking

477
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:34.000
about your brothers going out from taking turns in the bathroom,

478
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:45.760
we're into the toilet. Wow, dear Jason blind. So yeah,

479
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:49.719
I am, oh, yeah, this is what I was talking about.

480
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:51.920
I just came out of sounding really silly the other day.

481
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.960
So the whole thing about is it dynasty or is

482
00:45:56.039 --> 00:46:00.159
it dynasty? So basically we were arguing about how to

483
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:08.679
pronounce certain words. It started off with David Bowie David

484
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:13.960
Bowie or David Bowie, Bowie or Bowie. I think there

485
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:18.199
was someone else. I can't remember what's the other name.

486
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.159
There was other names that were weren't sure. I mean

487
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.960
there was a time when we didn't know. Yeah, when

488
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:34.159
I was in Wales, boy George or Culture Club. You

489
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:42.199
know Culture Club were big, big, like just come out

490
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.360
and they were huge and they were even in the

491
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:52.719
eighteen So I guess a bit of nostalgia there. What

492
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:56.119
Culture Club was in the A team, Yes they were,

493
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:05.199
And I remember sitting around outside the tent in Wales.

494
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.119
We were all discussing whether or not boy George was

495
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:20.679
actually a woman or a man, boy George, whether or

496
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.039
not he was a woman or a man, because he

497
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:27.360
wore a dress and we're having this conversation, looks like

498
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:34.039
a woman. Not one person said, but his name is

499
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:40.119
boy George. There's a clue. There's a clue somewhere. I mean,

500
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:48.960
it might be quite cryptic. It's yeah, I love boy George.

501
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:57.599
Culture club was great as we am a man. See

502
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:02.119
it's in the title with our viction I am a

503
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:12.679
man who doesn't know. I mean, there was evidence, but

504
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.280
I think we just used to argue about anything for

505
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:21.119
no reason. That was it always had to be an argument.

506
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:27.920
So there's four brothers and parents and it was just

507
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.199
kind of okay. One of the kids was tiny, so

508
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:35.000
he wasn't that involved, but he did get involved after

509
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:40.119
as soon as he could talk. He was arguing, causing

510
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:51.480
trouble proper, trouble maker, always arguing. In the end, I

511
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.559
just used to just like kind of bothered with this,

512
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.559
why are you arguing? And then let's started let's start

513
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:05.480
another argument. We're not arguing. That's the whole feel of

514
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:12.880
I remember seeing in Big Brother this woman saying, oh, yes,

515
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:21.559
said you seem so angry. I'm not angry. I'm passionate. Okay, okay, okay.

516
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:24.719
That's the whole thing is how do you how do

517
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:31.519
you make an angry person angry? Tell them they're angry. Wow,

518
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:41.119
I'm not angry, I'm passion that I'm not hungry. Give

519
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:56.320
me some food. Oh yeah. So the argument was all

520
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.800
the discussion, but it was an argument is it dynasty

521
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:06.400
or dynasty? Dynasty or dynasty. See, half of my family

522
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.920
said it's dynasty. The other half was saying it's dynasty

523
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.960
because it was pronounced I thing different in America or whatever.

524
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:17.840
And this is what I was talking about this the

525
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:22.880
other day in a podcast, and because I wanted to contribute,

526
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.079
and we're already talking about David Bowie, if Doe Bowie

527
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:31.679
or David Bowie, and I showered out, what about Dallas?

528
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.360
And I just stopped and looked at me. I said,

529
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.199
I said, what do you mean? So? How do you

530
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:43.599
say that? How do you pronounce that? One? I really

531
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:49.760
thought I was contributing something to the argument, but just

532
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:51.400
gave me the giggles when I thought about it the

533
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.719
other day. It's such a silly thing to say in

534
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.960
it What about Dallas? Oh? That's not as funny now,

535
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:04.199
but it was back then. It felt funny because it

536
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:11.880
was just I do like absurd, absurd I do. I

537
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:21.000
don't know why, just tickles me a little bit, just

538
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:28.480
just really silly things. It makes me laugh. So I

539
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:33.679
did that. Yeah, put that podcast together with all the

540
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:38.800
recordings from last week, with the last seven days. Just

541
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:44.679
to let me boy to sleep once or LMB white yes,

542
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:53.320
LMB whitey yes, let me bore, LMB White yes, you

543
00:51:53.440 --> 00:52:05.159
to sleep, Yeah, LMB White Yes. I wanted to make

544
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:09.840
a recording earlier, but I just couldn't do it. I

545
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:11.159
wouldn't have been able to do it if I have

546
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:15.639
fallen asleep. My voice is all deep now, all deep.

547
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:24.639
I ball and star. I have to do that every

548
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.920
time I every time I got a crocon, I have

549
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.880
to cry and try and do the older.

550
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:49.000
I ball, oh and star, rolling more and moaning, sheepbat bragging, moving, rolling, moaning, moaning,

551
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:50.559
raw hard.

552
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:57.599
Yeah, I sometimes feel that I'm in the middle of

553
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:06.000
It's almost like the end of an era, the beginning

554
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:11.280
of an era, the end of that era, and then

555
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.360
the beginning of another era. It might just be because

556
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:20.000
I've lived so long, but it's like the end of

557
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:25.719
the seventies seemed to give way to kind of a

558
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:32.239
new period, and the music was quite different. The world

559
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:36.800
seemed quite different. That's probably more to do with you know,

560
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:40.039
I was just getting older. But the seventies, when I

561
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:47.559
think of the seventies, I think were a very, very gray,

562
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:56.320
very I just yeah, just I just remember a lot

563
00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.800
of the strikes and all that stuff, and it was, yeah,

564
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.239
this didn't seem great. Some people loved the seventies, so

565
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:07.679
I was a kid, so I didn't get to really

566
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.519
experience the seventies in the sort of an amazing way.

567
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:24.159
But the eighties seemed different. Then there was the nineties.

568
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:32.639
So for me, my years in a way were the

569
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:41.760
eighties and nineties, so you know, from ten to thirty,

570
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:51.199
because the twenties are quite I would say, important period,

571
00:54:51.239 --> 00:55:00.880
isn't it. And that period of going through teenage years

572
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:10.679
and maneuvering the whole kind of leaving school, getting a job,

573
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:18.960
perhaps having a relationship of some kind, and finding somewhere

574
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:23.440
to live and you know, pain rent and all that stuff.

575
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.800
Maybe for the first time it was yeah, it was

576
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:31.239
an interesting It wasn't interesting at all. Actually, I don't

577
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.880
know why I said the word interesting, but it can be,

578
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:41.840
I guess an interesting period for some people. No, I

579
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:48.119
was never a big fan of pain rent. I'll be honest. Yeah,

580
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:55.800
once I was. Once I got my flat above the

581
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.360
chip shop when I was sixteen. Once I moved in there,

582
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:03.719
paying forty pounds a week, I had forty seven pounds

583
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.159
a week coming in. There's how much money I was

584
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:08.960
earning a week. So I was paying forty pounds out

585
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:17.599
of that for the rent. So you know, it was

586
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.800
I was actually better off financially, better off when I

587
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.440
had a paper round. When I was living at home

588
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:28.199
and had a paper round, I had more money in

589
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:31.360
my pocket than I had when I was working full time.

590
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.119
And I was doing six days a week as well.

591
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:41.320
Well we're evenings, you know, but you know, six different

592
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:46.880
days I had Sunday off, and it was weird. It's like,

593
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.559
it's really strange to think that some of the people

594
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:07.320
I worked with there would be now pensioners. Some of

595
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:13.920
them were probably had a good sort of I don't know,

596
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:18.519
six seven years on me. Maybe they were twenty six,

597
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:23.320
probably about five years maybe six years so twenty two,

598
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:27.960
so it'd be in their sixties and some of the

599
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:31.719
waitresses that were maybe a year or so younger than me,

600
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:37.400
so they'll be kind of my age now. Possibly had

601
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:46.000
like loads of kids, maybe maybe not. I didn't really

602
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:49.599
keeping contact with them really. I think one of them

603
00:57:49.679 --> 00:58:00.360
had quite a few kids. Didn't have waiters there. It

604
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.480
was like a chip shop restaurant. There was a restaurant there.

605
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:07.079
There was not a lot of tables, but it was

606
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.800
definitely it was a good size to make money. They

607
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.360
were definitely making money. They have coaches, coach trips or

608
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:18.760
pensioners come and eat in there on a thing a

609
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:22.760
Tuesday and a Thursday. Because it was a seaside place,

610
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:27.519
so even in the winter, people coaches would come down

611
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:32.199
from I don't know, London maybe or Essex or different

612
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:37.440
parts around the area that come down and go and

613
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.880
eat in a restaurant or go for a walk on

614
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:47.880
the beach or on a promenade. You know. Yeah, and

615
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:52.719
I think there was an OAP discount. Can you hear

616
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:54.760
all that screaming in the garden again?

617
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:56.079
Wow?

618
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:04.039
I can't escape it. Unfortunately, it's just I think it

619
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:07.840
might just be a little with an echoy area because

620
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:11.000
maybe they're not shouting all the time. Maybe they're talking

621
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:19.960
just normal, normal kind of volume. But it's just echoing.

622
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.840
I mean, don't know how else to say it. Maybe

623
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:32.519
it's just like magnificated in itself. It's possible that's not

624
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:35.719
what's happening, but it's possible. It might be. It might

625
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:48.639
be hmm, yeah. And it's strange thinking about people that.

626
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:57.000
Even my karate instructor, I think he's now in his seventies.

627
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:03.440
I had when I was at school. So when I

628
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:08.800
was what fourteen fifteen, he was a good twenty years

629
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:16.519
older than me, or maybe fifties he was maybe he

630
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:25.440
was thirty. Yeah, maybe it will be about seventy. Now,

631
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:28.199
it might have been a little bit. It might have

632
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.800
been early thirties, but it was a fully grown out

633
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:37.519
or he wasn't in his twenties anyway, he could have

634
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:40.800
been twenty nine, but I would probably say he was

635
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:51.000
about thirty at the time, so yeah, it'd be seventy.

636
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.840
He was one of my heroes. I had heroes. I

637
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.599
never told them. You can't really walk up to someone

638
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:02.760
and say you're my hero bye, you know. It's it's

639
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:07.760
just it's a bit weird, isn't it. But he was

640
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.320
one of my heroes. He was my karate instructor, and

641
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:16.760
you know, I had heroes that were famous and Bruce

642
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:23.119
Lee and boxes that I've seen like Frank Bruno, and

643
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:28.079
you know, when I was a kid, TV characters, Wonder

644
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:37.760
Woman and you know, there were heroes. But then he

645
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:45.119
was like a real life person that I looked up to.

646
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.760
I had no choice. It was about six or six,

647
01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:50.760
but you know, he looked up to him as a

648
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:55.119
as a I don't know about a role model, because

649
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:58.079
I had no idea what kind of life he led,

650
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:04.079
but I just really liked him. And there was another

651
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.840
instruck where he was a brown belt with this other person.

652
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:12.199
He became a black belt shortly, you think after I

653
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.079
left school or just before I left school, and I

654
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:18.679
really looked up to him. Yeah, he was definitely a

655
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.320
black belt before I left school. So I think he

656
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.679
probably got his black belt when I was about fifteen fourteen.

657
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:30.559
Maybe not my instructor, the main instructor was already like

658
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:33.840
a second belt second day. I think he got his

659
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:40.239
black belt in the seventies. Yeah, I think he got

660
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.039
his black belt in the seventies. I could look it up.

661
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.199
I can actually look up these information if I wanted,

662
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.840
but I'm sitting down, so I can't be bothered, and

663
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.360
it's so nice to not be looking at a computer screen.

664
01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:05.360
Oh oh, it's lovely. Just means I can't fact check

665
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:17.119
any of my lies never mind never mind me what

666
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:20.000
other people did I was, did I look up to

667
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:33.920
real life people? I mean, there were real life people,

668
01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:38.079
but it's not people that I knew there were when

669
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:43.960
I was in my twenties. There was comedians that I

670
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:48.679
looked up to that I mean, there's loads that were

671
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:55.559
just brilliant comedians. So not all of them liked me,

672
01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:57.719
or I say, like me, I don't know if any

673
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:00.280
of them liked me, but not all of them gave

674
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:06.280
me acknowledged my existence as it were. But some did,

675
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:13.039
and they're the ones that I respected most because you know,

676
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:23.719
Alan Davis, Harry Hill, people like Lee Mac, other ones

677
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:30.599
that Lie Mac wasn't early nineties, but he by all

678
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.280
these people that kind went on to have TV careers

679
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:38.360
and they were friendly to me. I used to get

680
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:41.760
on very well with Tim Vine, who went on to

681
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:47.400
do a lot of TV work, and I kind of

682
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:52.840
had a little at different periods. So when I was performing,

683
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:57.440
I got to know kind of got to know everyone

684
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:03.360
on the circuit, all the promoters, the club owners, you know,

685
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:07.679
and all the comedians, the ones that were successful, the

686
01:05:07.679 --> 01:05:12.440
ones that were just plodding by and were happy to

687
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:15.800
just do a few gigs a month and maybe get

688
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:20.159
paid for it, and others that were aiming for bigger things,

689
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:28.039
some that were on the way to being famous, some

690
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:33.280
that were already famous, but still tipping their toes, dipping

691
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.679
their toes into the comedy scene, maybe do a few

692
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:40.480
gigs here and there just to you know, practice some

693
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:45.079
new material for an upcoming tour or something like that,

694
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.800
you know. And then there was ones that were new

695
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:54.760
like myself, who just starting out, didn't really know what

696
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.000
they were doing. And then out of those new ones,

697
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:01.679
there was those that went on to be famous, and

698
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:08.440
they were good almost straight away. I wasn't in that category.

699
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:09.400
I was.

700
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:13.320
I probably classed as a newbie the whole time I

701
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:20.519
was doing it. Really Yeah, But so I had that

702
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:27.159
eight years of being around comedians. I can't I can't

703
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:33.360
even imagine how many performances stand up comedy performances I

704
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:40.400
saw during that period. In fact, the only people that

705
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.159
would have seen as many stand up performances as I

706
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:47.320
have as many probably and also maybe a lot more

707
01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:50.119
as well. But the only people that will have seen

708
01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:53.519
the amount of performances of stand up comedy as myself

709
01:06:54.559 --> 01:07:00.400
are those that either perform perform comedy or are in

710
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:08.480
let's say they run a club. That's the only people

711
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:13.760
that would have seen as much comedy as me during

712
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:18.400
that time. I guess I suppose if someone went to

713
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:23.559
comedy twice a week since nineteen ninety, then they'll see

714
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:28.320
more comedy than me, because that's what like thirty odd years,

715
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:34.480
isn't it thirty years of Yeah, so they'd seen more

716
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:36.679
comedy than me. But I'm sure as an average person

717
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:41.039
that maybe goes to see comedy once a week, that's

718
01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:44.000
an avid fan. Something that goes to see a comedy

719
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:50.800
show once a week is a big comedy fan. But

720
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:57.039
I used to go multiple times a week. But you know,

721
01:07:57.079 --> 01:07:59.880
I was trying to learn to do it. And then

722
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.400
so I had some people I was friends with a

723
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:09.400
lot of the open acts, the new people. And then

724
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.800
when I was doing some DJing in a comedy club,

725
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.800
I became friends with the comedians, the ones that were

726
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:24.399
getting paid. They're really they're the good ones. There was

727
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:26.720
not that the ones that weren't getting paid much, weren't good,

728
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:31.119
but the established, you know, and so many of them

729
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:34.840
went on to do TV work and got their own

730
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:41.680
Some of them became really famous, like Jimmy Carr. I

731
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.720
saw him for years and years and years. He was

732
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:51.439
almost like the regular compare at this comedy club, and

733
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:56.000
then he became he started doing TV stuff and then

734
01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:00.840
he was headlining. I mean, he was successful very quickly

735
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:08.720
and still is. So I used to see him also,

736
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:16.079
he's his management was my friend, well, two friends, my

737
01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:20.920
friend and a lady who she still manages him. But

738
01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:26.039
my friend also managed him because they did it with

739
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:33.600
the comedy club. So it's Jimmy Carr's manager was my

740
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:38.960
friend for I don't know how many years, a few years,

741
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:47.760
and if you don't have is now with Chambers management.

742
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:52.399
So I used to know her, Hannah Chambers. I used

743
01:09:52.439 --> 01:09:56.560
to know how I hadn't seen her for donkeys and

744
01:09:57.439 --> 01:10:03.840
zebras and long time. Last time I saw it was wow,

745
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:13.560
long time ago, decades, decades and decades and decades. What

746
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:16.399
was gone with her? I always liked to as gone

747
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:23.760
with her decades ago, decades and decades. It's really weird.

748
01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:27.319
She got herself an assistant and I used to still

749
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:29.920
go up to London to visit and stuff, and I

750
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:33.960
couldn't believe it. I walked into the office because she

751
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:37.399
was still working from the above the comedy club, because

752
01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:41.079
that's where the agency was based, and there was a

753
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:46.760
female there. It was just like a younger version of her.

754
01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:55.000
Not related, but honestly, same characteristics, had looked very similar,

755
01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:02.359
same same hair, curly hair, the same build of body.

756
01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:08.239
Is like, if you you gotta be related, surely, surely actually,

757
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:13.199
like your youngest sister or something. Wasn't no relationship, no,

758
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:17.000
no like blood, relative, relatives, relatives.

759
01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:23.560
It's just like that was just one of those weird moments,

760
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:36.600
like wow, just remember that. I don't know if you

761
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:37.039
can hear that.

762
01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:46.359
Where were were w wow wow wow wow out there

763
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:54.319
whore wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.

764
01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:06.399
So what was that all about? Oh yeah, but why

765
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:11.880
was I talked about gigs? Comedy gigs? I don't know.

766
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:22.640
It's kind of weird. How many of what did Who

767
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:23.319
did I see?

768
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:23.760
Oh?

769
01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:27.279
I saw a comedian. It was always older than me anyway,

770
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:31.159
but not not by a huge amount. And I saw

771
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:36.760
him on this particular comedian he's been on TV loads,

772
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:40.399
and he's had a really good career. And I saw

773
01:12:40.479 --> 01:12:46.640
him on some game show, you know, question quiz show thing,

774
01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:54.520
like a celebrity version, and I just looks so old now,

775
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:59.239
I mean he is, but it's like, wow, he's just

776
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:05.880
I just remember what he looked like in the early nineties.

777
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:07.960
And no one looks the same as I did in

778
01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:11.079
the early nineties, and they shouldn't either. If you find

779
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:13.119
someone that looks the same as I did in the

780
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:21.960
early nineties, call the police there's something going on. I

781
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:26.319
remember Steve Coogan, I never knew. I never never spoke

782
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:30.880
to Steve Coogan. He was already pretty much a big

783
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:34.800
shot long before I was even on the scene. He

784
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:38.199
was I think he was doing voiceovers for Spitting Image,

785
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:47.319
and he was already really successful. He wasn't like famous yet,

786
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:52.439
but he was on its way. And to me, Steve

787
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:57.479
Coogan's probably the the Alan Partridge character is the best

788
01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:02.680
commonly character I think think for me personally, I think

789
01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:08.439
it's the best comedy character ever created. And there's been

790
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:11.880
there's been so many. In Bill COO's one, isn't it?

791
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:25.880
Just for example, but borat Inspector Cluso in Spectaclusa, I mean,

792
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:30.439
I don't compare any of them with each other, but

793
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:36.640
what what he's done is the substance he's added and

794
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:39.000
the fact that he's been doing the same character since

795
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:55.079
for thirty five odd years is phenomenal. It is something

796
01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:59.520
almost unrivaled, I would say, I mean, is there some people.

797
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:11.399
Was Dame Edna Everidge, so she was that was a

798
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:16.720
character and she was probably doing that for like forty

799
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:20.760
odd years, if not more, or he was doing that

800
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:24.159
for forty odd years. But I can't and Lily Savage,

801
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.039
but Lily, well, both of them no longer here are they.

802
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:31.159
Lily Savage, it's not weird. It was not weird. But

803
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:41.760
Lily Savage never really wasn't really my thing, didn't really

804
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:44.119
I don't know what it was because I know it

805
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:49.760
was a character and that's what he became famous for,

806
01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:52.720
and you know, I think he won the Perier for

807
01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:58.920
it in the early nineties. And what I like, though,

808
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:03.079
is when he just was himself and he did a

809
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:07.079
TV show during the day and it was such a

810
01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:16.079
good show. It was funny, it was just I don't know,

811
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:22.720
he was almost like the perfect TV host. It was

812
01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:26.479
so good. He loved dogs, and I can't remember his

813
01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:31.000
name now, oh dow, isn't it something O'Leary, not dem

814
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:46.039
it O'Leary. Did I say his name is? It's from Liverpool?

815
01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:50.520
What was his I can't remember what the female name was.

816
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:55.279
Now that's terrible. But he was so good. I really

817
01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:59.199
liked him a lot. Just I never got to see

818
01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:04.800
the performance on stage of him doing his act likes

819
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:09.399
comedy act, because he was pretty much already famous or

820
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:11.439
on his way to being famous. He was already doing

821
01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:16.600
shows like touring and stuff like that before I had

822
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:21.039
even arrived. You know, he was big pretty much straight away.

823
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:33.000
Not straight away, but he was popular. Oleary, I can't

824
01:17:33.039 --> 01:17:42.119
think Lee Mack, who's very well known in this country.

825
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:44.720
He once said to me that he liked my act.

826
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.800
So there. He might've just been saying it just to

827
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:53.920
be kind, but he said it. This was in nineteen

828
01:17:55.359 --> 01:18:04.319
ninety seven or eight ninety eight, probably ninety seven ninety eight,

829
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:12.000
one of them, and I said thank you. I said,

830
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:16.279
you're not too bad. I reckon, if you keep going,

831
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:20.800
you might be able to get some paid gigs. Now

832
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:24.880
he's probably one of the most famous comedians in the country.

833
01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:34.199
Actually a limac is that a great career very quick. Now,

834
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:38.119
I know because we told me his biggest hero was

835
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:42.159
Tim Vine, who I also knew because I started at

836
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:46.119
the same time as Tim Vine, and Tim went on

837
01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:51.479
to be he here's said, this is something that, this

838
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:56.680
is trivia, this is a trivia Tuesday thing. When Channel

839
01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:01.960
five launched in I think it was nineteen ninety seven,

840
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:05.960
could have been ninety six, but I think it was

841
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:12.119
ninety seven, like beginning of the year ish, Yeah, I

842
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:18.680
think it was ninety seven nineteen ninety seven. Tim Vine

843
01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:23.520
was the face of the new channel. Now, bearing in mind,

844
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:27.399
we only had four channels BBC one, BBC two, ITV

845
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:33.199
and Channel four. Would had Channel four since probably about

846
01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:38.840
nineteen eighty two, so before that, you know three channels.

847
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:44.319
So in a country that only has four channels, a

848
01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:50.239
fifth channel is a big deal and it was huge publicity.

849
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:57.399
So when Channel five launched, Tim Vine launched it not

850
01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:00.239
just on his own, but he was the face of

851
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:05.920
tim of Channel five in the same way that Jimmy

852
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.319
Carr became the face of Channel four, although Channel four

853
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:13.680
was already established, but Jimmy Carr was like he was

854
01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:17.479
on lots of different things. Tim Vine was on lots

855
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:23.840
of different things. On Channel five. He had I think

856
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:29.359
at least two game shows and some other stuff, so

857
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:40.119
he was flying proper flying, which was great. I think

858
01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:50.800
the last time I saw it was about nineteen ninety nine. Yeah,

859
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:59.279
oh yeah, So why am I mentioning him? What's his name?

860
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:05.399
Lee Mack absolutely like his hero. His comedy hero was

861
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:10.920
Tim Vine, and he wanted to be like Tim Vine.

862
01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:14.079
But it was never going to be like Tim Vine

863
01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:16.600
because he just had a different act. But I think

864
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:20.319
they enjoyed the puns because Tim Vine was kind of

865
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:27.800
the king of puns and and I think he held

866
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:32.760
the world record for the most jokes told in a

867
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:37.159
specific amount of time. He's like quick fire jokes, black

868
01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:48.640
Man mak like really but he was, Yeah, he I

869
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:51.640
used to see him. I remember, this is weird, right,

870
01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:54.760
So Tim Vine went on really, you know, he had

871
01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:58.720
a really good career, and he did work with Lee Mack.

872
01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:02.359
They worked together a couple of times. Actually, I think

873
01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:05.479
they had a called The Stand Up Show and then

874
01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:09.279
they did another one not going Out, So he was

875
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:21.920
in his work with they both worked together. Two things

876
01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:25.560
I remember about Tim Vine, right, it's weird. I'm just

877
01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:27.880
talking about I'm talking about people that you might not

878
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:30.439
have ever heard of, especially if you're not maybe from

879
01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:33.800
this country, but you might want to google it at

880
01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:41.399
some point, google him or them the different comedians I've mentioned. So,

881
01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:46.359
the first time I saw Tim Vine was an open

882
01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:55.159
act evening and he got laughs, but the comedians were

883
01:22:55.159 --> 01:23:02.600
not happy because he was doing he did some old jokes.

884
01:23:03.319 --> 01:23:07.039
What's his name? Just like that that comedian he did,

885
01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:09.720
So he did some old jokes and some of the

886
01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:13.159
comedians are being really vicious to him about him rather

887
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:17.279
and it was it was his first time on stage,

888
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:20.159
like come on, maybe he's not his very first time,

889
01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:24.800
but his first sort of thing. And he went away

890
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:27.840
and he came back with his own stuff but Tommy Cooper,

891
01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:33.000
but they didn't realize what he was doing was he

892
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:39.920
was He showed that he had star ability, that he

893
01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:43.720
had to be able to stand in front of an

894
01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:51.000
audience talking into a camera a microphone. Is it might

895
01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:56.000
not be quite as easy as it looks. I'm just

896
01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:57.439
going to say that a lot there's a lot of

897
01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:01.800
people would not just can't do it, wouldn't ever even attempted.

898
01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:07.199
So he obviously showed that he had the he had

899
01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:10.560
the bottle to do it. And then he went away

900
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:14.800
and he came back and he started getting good and yeah. Three.

901
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:18.079
I got two memories of him after that. Remember once

902
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:21.600
he said to me, I was in the comedy club

903
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:26.520
and he said, the comedy store are going to give

904
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.720
me some gigs. I got an interview with them to

905
01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:32.119
do a gig there, and I told them that I've

906
01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:34.520
decided because he was I think he was still working

907
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:37.279
while he was doing a comedy at that this point,

908
01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:39.239
he had a job and he said, I'm going to

909
01:24:39.279 --> 01:24:42.159
give up my job. I can hear his voice now side.

910
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:44.159
I'm want to give up my job and I want

911
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:48.760
to do comedy full time and I want to put

912
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:52.319
everything into it and I will be successful. And he

913
01:24:52.359 --> 01:24:55.680
said to me, that's what he told the person at

914
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:58.800
the comedy store, the owner of the comedy store. And

915
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:07.399
he did and he did, and he was another memory

916
01:25:07.439 --> 01:25:10.960
I've had with him. And this was probably before that conversation.

917
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:16.279
We both did. We both did this Gigtavo together. It

918
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:19.359
was a middle of nowhere. It really was right in

919
01:25:19.439 --> 01:25:26.079
the sticks kind of Middlesex area. If you've got Middlesex, Hertfordshire, Essex,

920
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:29.840
all these little areas that are like outside of London,

921
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:33.119
and you can end up in the middle of like

922
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:37.000
in a place that there's nothing around, like one pub,

923
01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:40.800
six houses and a post box, you know, it's like

924
01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:44.640
and a train stop. So people might live there and

925
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:47.600
get the train into London, but there's nothing to do

926
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:51.520
when they're home. Part from be at home. There's nothing there,

927
01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:56.600
and some people wanted to they like that, and it's

928
01:25:56.600 --> 01:25:58.600
a little bit like here. Really, I guess this is

929
01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:03.600
probably like that. Thinking about it. Anyway, we're in the

930
01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:05.239
middle of this place, in the middle of nowhere, and

931
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:08.560
with it at this venue, I think it was like

932
01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:14.520
an arts theater or arts center, unless it was upstairs

933
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:18.920
in a pub. Anyway, Tim Vine was doing a comparing

934
01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:27.560
so he came on. He didn't like it. They didn't

935
01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:31.920
like him, so he introduced the first act. He came

936
01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:38.920
on again, audience didn't like him. I did my act.

937
01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:40.960
I don't even know if I was on. I probably

938
01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:46.319
was on. Came on again, audience didn't like him. Third

939
01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:51.039
act like another short one and if and we were

940
01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:54.239
just laughing because they just didn't like they'd really like,

941
01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:56.920
were hostile towards him, and he was doing exactly the

942
01:26:56.960 --> 01:27:00.159
same as you always ever did, which normally was he's

943
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:04.800
really successful because it was a very likable person. So

944
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:09.680
what he did is he came back on stage wearing

945
01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:17.640
a plant pot on his head. There was a proper

946
01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:20.520
plant pot, mud everywhere, all over the place, all over

947
01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:29.479
his head, dripping down his face, and it got everyone's

948
01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:34.680
attention and he said, oh, that last compare was crap.

949
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:38.840
When he and he laughed and from that second they

950
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:43.439
loved him. And he didn't do any different material than

951
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:46.159
what he would have done anyway. You know, he just

952
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:49.079
carried on with his act and they loved him, but

953
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:55.920
they didn't like him before. Fickle very It's very strange

954
01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:01.279
how that can happen. I've actually seen more than once

955
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:05.800
a comedian go on stage do exactly the same act.

956
01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:11.439
This is someone Earl Oakin and he was I don't

957
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:15.000
know if he's still doing it, but he looked a

958
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:22.760
bit like Roy Orbison at the glasses and he had

959
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:28.640
a guitar. It was like a middle aged man and

960
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:36.880
he was singing. And I've never seen him before. This

961
01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:39.000
is the first time I'd ever seen no I had

962
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:42.000
seen him once before at the Comedy Store, but this

963
01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:43.880
is the first time, you know, I hadn't seen him

964
01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:49.720
for years and years. So he came on stage, sat down,

965
01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:54.359
and people were literally booing him, and I think someone

966
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:57.840
even chucked stuff on the stage. They did not like

967
01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:01.840
him at all. This is the Friday night and he

968
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.920
got off after probably about ten minutes, didn't do his

969
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:12.640
full set, and they were really hostile to him. There's

970
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:14.640
about two hundred people in the audience. It wasn't like

971
01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:17.760
a huge amount of people, but still it wasn't nice.

972
01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:24.159
It wasn't a nice atmosphere. The Saturday night, he still

973
01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:29.439
turned up to do his gig and possibly had one

974
01:29:29.439 --> 01:29:32.399
of the best performances I've ever seen any comedian have

975
01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:40.039
as far as an audience reaction standing ovation after standing ovation.

976
01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:46.560
Now I'm exaggerating for effect, but it really was an

977
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:50.520
amazing gig. The audience loved him from the second they

978
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:57.880
saw him, and they laughed at everything. And this was

979
01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:01.000
a season pro that had probably been doing for twenty years.

980
01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:08.239
He knew every sound, he did, every facial expression, he'd

981
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:14.039
probably done hundreds and hundreds of times before to perfect

982
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:19.520
the act. And it was a great act, really funny.

983
01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:24.079
But the first night, Friday night, they weren't having it.

984
01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:34.039
Saturday night, like a different audience, but still. And the

985
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:36.800
weird thing is I found myself being swayed by the

986
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:42.039
audience because I watched both performances, and he did look

987
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:46.600
rubbish on the Friday night. On the sad Saturday night,

988
01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:52.119
he looked amazing, but he wasn't doing anything different. I've

989
01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:55.319
no doubt that being bowed and shouted at would have

990
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:59.960
affected his performance of Friday Night. But you know, the start,

991
01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:05.600
he was doing everything the same. And he's one of

992
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:10.079
the best performances I've ever seen on stage. And I've

993
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:18.199
seen I don't know how many have I seen, thousands

994
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:21.560
probably if you include all the ones I see on

995
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:26.720
YouTube and stuff since, but thousands on stage live, even

996
01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:29.439
if it was like only five or ten minutes slot.

997
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:33.600
I've seen a lot of. Yeah, over that twenty year

998
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:41.520
period of sort of going to comedy clubs, ten really

999
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:47.399
intensive years, and then I'm still going back during the

1000
01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:55.319
following ten years. Yeah. In fact, I was still involved

1001
01:31:55.520 --> 01:32:02.800
in twenty sixteen something my friend did, but I just

1002
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:04.760
just didn't want to travel to London anymore. I just

1003
01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:09.319
didn't fill up to it, which is a shame I

1004
01:32:09.399 --> 01:32:11.680
kind of wish I had. Now. I went a couple

1005
01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:19.119
of times I did help out. I did some volunteering

1006
01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:26.199
at a local center. I don't know what it's called,

1007
01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:30.720
but it's like a venue. I think it's a charity,

1008
01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:35.960
but it's a venue where that music, dancing, stuff like that,

1009
01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:40.880
and I volunteered there for a few times. But again

1010
01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:44.840
I couldn't one day, I couldn't face going in and

1011
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:48.520
kind of messed out for myself. But I saw a

1012
01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:54.600
couple of comedians there and it was so different to

1013
01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:56.359
see it commit For me, it was so different to

1014
01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:01.520
see a comedian on stage with an all audience, especially

1015
01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:07.119
probably more than two hundred people as well, but I've

1016
01:33:07.159 --> 01:33:11.039
seen audiences of much more than two hundred, but it's

1017
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:15.319
just not being in London. To see a stand up

1018
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:23.560
comedian outside of London, it was just weird but so funny,

1019
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:33.199
and I never really understood why people laugh as much

1020
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:36.640
as they do sometimes at comedy gig like the audience.

1021
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:42.800
I didn't understand it as an audience member because I

1022
01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:47.359
never really felt like an audience member. Really, I have

1023
01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:49.680
been thousands of times, but not really because I was

1024
01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:55.760
kind of either part of the show or just hanging

1025
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:58.159
around with the other comedians, you know, so I was

1026
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:04.520
kind of there or working, but we had a by

1027
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:10.279
second insurance job. We had a night out. Everyone went

1028
01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:13.520
and it was an ipswitch football ground BlimE me. It

1029
01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:17.119
was Yeah, had a night out and they put on

1030
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:23.239
a comedy show. It was hilarious and there was comedians

1031
01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:27.199
that I'd already seen before. They hadn't No one think

1032
01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:28.840
they didn't see me because I was in the order.

1033
01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:31.199
I was like in the dark in the crowd. But

1034
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:35.319
it was so weird because they were making fun of

1035
01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:40.039
people that I worked with. It made it funnier. So

1036
01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:42.960
their ad libs and they're put downs were way more

1037
01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:47.520
funnier as an audience member knowing the person who were

1038
01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:52.159
put down or putting down than if it had just

1039
01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:54.680
been in a like a normal crowd of people. I

1040
01:34:54.680 --> 01:35:00.920
didn't know. It was hilarious. It's plus I suppose I

1041
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:04.159
was drinking as well. But it was great, great night,

1042
01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:13.760
just like yeah. Still a big comedy fan. Really. So

1043
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:19.359
this is my Sunday Sunday chit chat. I don't know

1044
01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:23.960
what I've been talking about. So if I'm gonna go,

1045
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:29.479
I have to take this one out for a walk.

1046
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:35.720
So thank you for listening. Tomorrow I will do Monday's

1047
01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:42.680
boarding objects Tuesday, I will do Tuesday's yeah, what is it?

1048
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:48.279
Trivia Tuesday? Wednesday, hopefully I'll do Whisper Wednesday, and then

1049
01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:54.000
I'll do que I Friday again. Now, just let you know,

1050
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:58.079
if you're still awake, my neighbor opposite me is having

1051
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:05.479
his bathroom fitted either tomorrow or Tuesday. I think it's

1052
01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:13.560
tomorrow actually, which means there's going to be a lot

1053
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:18.039
of noise. So if for any reason I can't make

1054
01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:21.039
a recording on any of those days or all of

1055
01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:29.039
those days, just you know, please forgive me, because there's

1056
01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:31.880
only so much noise I can allow when I'm doing

1057
01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:36.960
a recording in the background, and there's going to be

1058
01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:39.199
a lot of door slamming and stuff like that as well,

1059
01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:42.760
which means Old Vinny here will be barking quite a lot.

1060
01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:48.520
So you know this, I've got a maneuver myself around

1061
01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:51.279
this whole thing. But I would definitely do a Q

1062
01:36:51.439 --> 01:36:53.920
and A Friday, even if i'd do it in the

1063
01:36:53.960 --> 01:37:03.720
evening on Friday. But I'll try and do normal recordings

1064
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:09.600
this week if it's all possible. So thank you for listening.

1065
01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:13.840
Remember to be kind to yourself because you do deserve

1066
01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:18.600
to be happy and be gentle with yourself because you

1067
01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:27.520
do deserve to feel safe. Lots of love, bye,