June 19, 2025

(no music) SNAKE PHOBIA - Let me bore your Phobia away #2 (19th June 2025)

(no music) SNAKE PHOBIA - Let me bore your Phobia away #2 (19th June 2025)
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Hello and welcome. My name's Jason Newland. This is going

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to be a phobia recording. Yeah, a phobia recording. So

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I don't know whether to focus on a particular phobia

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or just generalize it. I will decide at some point

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during a recording. So please only listen when you can

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safety close your eyes. This isn't a sleep recording, although

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you might find yourself falling asleep because apparently my voice

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is not the most exciting voice. It's not well, a

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different a stimulation maybe, but it's not doesn't apparently get

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people feeling wide awake. Oh well, I'll put up with it.

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I don't mind, so, h okay, I'm going to have that.

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It's going to be a phobia of a phobia of snakes.

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Let's do a phobia of snakes. So, of course I

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don't know where the phobia. If you've got phobia snakes,

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where it comes from. I'll put snake phobia in the title,

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so don't worry. So I guess only people with snake

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phobias would listen. The first question is what's the likelihood

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of you actually seeing a snake? Now, if you live

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in the country where I live, it's really unlikely It's

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about as likely as seeing an elephant. You know, it's

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just not likely to happen. I mean, we do have snakes,

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grass snakes and adders and things like that, but I

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think I've only ever seen one in the wild once

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when I was a kid, I say, in the wild,

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but outside. But my friend downstad stairs he did have

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two snakes, and that was the first time because I

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hated snakes just but from my I did have a

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phobia snake. I don't have it anymore. I have a

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healthy wariness because I think it's good to be wary of.

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Like it's still you know, you need to be wary

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of something like a snake or maybe a you know,

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you don't have to be scared of a lion, but

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if you see, if you see a lion coming towards you,

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then you need to be active. You need to be

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aware of the situation. You know. I'm I'm not scared

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of crocodiles, but it doesn't mean that if I see

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a crocodile, I'm just going to go up and start

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patting it on their head, you know. So you know,

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if I was on a boat and I saw a

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shark poking its nose up in the out of the water.

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I wouldn't go to give it a kiss. You know,

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I'm not scared of sharks, but in that scenario, i'd

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have to kind of hopefully my brain would work. So,

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you know, don't be picking up snakes if you don't

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know anything about snakes. But then you could say that

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same is like don't pick up a dog or a cat,

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you know, unless you've got to know how to handle them,

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or a monkey. I was going to say giraffe, but

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I don't even know if you could pick a giraffe

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up when it was born, when it's first born, because

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they're probably the size of a horse, and they when

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they're first born. I don't have very tall. Blimey. I

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think it's the tallest animal I've ever seen. I had

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a funny incident happened though, because I went to the zoo.

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This is years ago, BlimE me. You got seven sixteen

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years ago, fifteen years ago, and no, probably sixteen seventeen

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years ago. So I went to the zoo and there

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was they were cleaning the animals so that they had elephants

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and then they had giraffes kind of within the same

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kind of area, and they were hosing them down and stuff,

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and there was a big part your school kids were

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sort of watching and now I think they were feeding

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the elephants or I don't know, something like that. So

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I'm looking at the other side because on this bridge,

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so you could look down, So I was looking at

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other stuff, and suddenly he all these like, well here

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the teachers laughing, and I hear the kids laughing. So

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I'm like, okay, my trousers fallen down again, but they hadn't,

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so I turned around to see what's going on, and

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there was two giraffes and one.

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Was getting it on with the other one, and it

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was Yeah, it was just very funny because it was

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so inappropriate, but in the same side, like, it's just

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animals doing what animals do, but it was very funny.

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Anyway, that's not really relevant to the story, is it.

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He started off talking about snake phobias and ended up

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talking about giraffes making love and in a zoo like

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exhibitionists as well, Like no, well, yeah, but no, that's

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not what I was kind of going to talk about.

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So part of how I do what I do and

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why I do what I do is to try and

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take away some of the seriousiness of something like a phobia,

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because you know, what does it get you, what does

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it give you? What benefits are there? If the benefit

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is to keep you safe, then you don't need to

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have a phobia of it to keep you safe seeing

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a picture of a snake. You don't need anything to

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keep you safe from a picture. H This isn't Jumanji

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is in Jimanji jimandi jimanji. You know it's not going

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to not going to pop out of the book. You

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don't need to keep safe from a video of a

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snake or seeing snakes on television. You don't. You know,

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you haven't got to feel safe for that because you

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are safe. So the idea that a phobic response can

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be created just by thinking about something that's not useful,

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how is that helpful to you? It's just not is it?

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I mean generally, you know, realistically it's seriously unuseful. So

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I guess it's putting it into perspective in a sense

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of you know, when is it useful to be concerned

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about snakes? There is a time, you know, if it's

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a snake. I guess just generally, you know, if you're

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traveling through India or through a country where there's snakes

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that can be poisonous, then yeah, you be careful, you

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see one, you keep away from it. But it's not

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something that we need to think about, is it? Like

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on a regular basis. I don't think regularly about things

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I like, never mind things I don't like. You know,

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there's a few things I like to do in life,

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but I'm not thinking about it when i'm not doing it.

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Well generally, I suppose that's the benefit of just focusing

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on what you're doing when you're doing it and then

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moving on. Perhaps you could change the phobia, swap it

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with something else. What would be something that you'd be

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happy to be scared of that you're never going to do,

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Like for me, bungee jumping. I'm scared to bungee jump.

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I'm never going to bungee jump. It will never happen ever, ever,

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never going to happen. So I'm happy. I'm quite happy

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to a bungee jump in phobia. I wouldn't say it's

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a phobia. It's a bungee jump. You know. It says

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something I'll be scared to do, but I'm never going

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to do, and I'd never see any reasonable point to

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doing it in the same way I wouldn't jump out

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of a plane. There's certain things I just wouldn't do,

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not because, yeah, partly because I'm scared to do them.

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But logically it's normal to be scared to do stuff

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like that. It's like, what's the point, what benefit is there?

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I understand some people get benefit by overcoming fears and

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stuff like that, but I wouldn't see that as a

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benefit for me personally because I'm never I'm never going

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to do it. I'm never going to do it. It's

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as simple as that. I'm never going to ride on

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the back of an alligator. That's just not going to happen.

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I'm not going to swim with sharks. That's not going

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to happen, hopefully, you know, not not on purpose anyway.

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So in that situation, I would be scared. And again,

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some people get something from that. But what could you

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be scared of? What could you change? What could you

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transfer that phobia toom? Sound like a weird idea, and

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it's possibly something that you've never really thought about before,

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so you can make up right, Vinny Thinny, my little

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Jack Russell here is it looked like it was about

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to just sit down and stare at me. But I

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think it's time we went. We're going to go out

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again in a little while, are we been? Eh? Early?

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Start today? Six thirty this morning, wasn't it? Yeah? Six thirty?

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But unfortunately, hey, you don't grow like me, a little monkey.

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Unfortunately he saw a dog that he didn't like and

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he barked, which is way too early, way too early

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to be barking. Wasn't it a A yes? So think

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of something really absurd that you would be scared to do,

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not really absurd. It could be something like eating the

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largest I don't know, I don't know what it could be.

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It could be building the biggest sand castle in history,

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digging the biggest trench. You could be phobic against drinking

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nothing but I don't know what would be a weird

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thing to drink bol drinking nothing but botherreel. So you

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could have a phobia of traveling through a desert and

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drinking nothing but Bovril, which is the least the least

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hydrating drink. I would say there is, and it's like

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marmite but with liquid. So maybe you can think of

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an idea for yourself, something that you could be that's

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never going to happen. So it can be something like

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jumping out of a plane, or it could be swimming

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with sharks, something you've never been bothered about before. But

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maybe you can have that phobia because you're never going

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to do it. Have a phobia be you know of

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like falling into a volcano. Unlikely it's going to happen.

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I mean, if you're going to be like balancing on

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the court on the edges of a volcano, yeah, maybe

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it might happen. But I say edges, I don't know.

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How are they thin? The volcanoes had thin edges. I

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don't know. I've never been on a volcano. I'm never

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going to be on a volcano. The closest thing I'm

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never going to be to a volcano is watching it

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on Telly. So what would be an absolutely ridiculous phobia

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that you can have to replace the snake phobia that

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you used to have. What could be a nice replacement.

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I think part of the snake phobia with humans is

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there's that whole kind of with a lot of people

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is the they've had a bad reputation, and they snakes

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have had a bad reputation throughout history. A lot of

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a lot of kind of historical. A lot of religiously

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stories that have contained snakes, and they've never been good

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guys of they he never really However, often do you

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see a snake as the star of the show. I

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mean it depends. Yeah, I'm in a natural snake, not

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a person that Yeah, a n actual snake, mind you

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the Jungle Book. I quite like that snake because it

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was hypnotic. But yeah, ooh, I want to be like you. Oh.

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We used to have someone at work and he just

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copied everyone. He copied everyone. It's almost like he didn't

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have his own identity and he wanted I guess he

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wanted to fit in stuff. But when everyone in anyone

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says something, he just copied it, okay. And so it

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became so obvious that in the end, whenever he started

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doing it, whenever he started copying someone, we'd all stop working,

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turn around, start dancing and singing, Oh, I want to

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be like you. Oh, I want to walk like you,

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talk like you. And then we just turned back and

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carry on working. Because it's in the factory. To this day,

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I don't think he even knew what was going on,

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and I still don't think he understood that we was subtly,

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subtly trying to subtily. Does some people pronounce that sub

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to league because it's got to be in it. It's subtle,

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not subtle. Ah. So on the snake phobia thing that

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you add, what what is it? So we think a snake,

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snaky snake, snake sake? What just imagine one in you

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in your mind? What is it on a level of like?

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Is it like ten? Is it a fifty? Is at

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one hundred? Is it zero? Where is it on a scale?

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And how high does that scale of like absolute let's say,

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not pleasure, non pleasure? How how high is it at

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the moment? How high was it before you started listening

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to me biabling on about stuff? How high was it

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then before I started being Some would argue a bit

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of random random, don't worry, this is what I do.

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It might seem strange if if you're listening to me

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for the first time, If this is just what I do,

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this isn't anything unusual. It's unusual, but it's not unusual

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for me because it's how my brain works. So unfortunately,

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and because I have to deal with it, I share

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it with others. That's my punishment. So where is it

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what scale is it? Are you still bothered the same

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way as you was? It's what we can do. Imagine

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imagine someone that you really like, like a celebrity, someone

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that you really okay, someone that you fancy, maybe even

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someone that you find very attractive, or just perhaps somebody

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that you've you've always wanted to meet. So if you

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saw them, and let's say you were staying in a

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hotel and you see them in the hotel lobby and

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you think, what the heck? Why are they there? How

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do you know there's there's a superstar? Why or whatever

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it is? You want to go up and sayalo, and

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you see that they've got a snake around the neck,

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They've got a pet snake. What do you do? Do

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you still want to go and saylo? Do you still what?

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How does that change? Do you know what I mean?

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How does that? How is that a little bit different?

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Realizing that actually there's motivation there because you want to

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go and do you want to meet this person someone

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maybe you've wanted to meet for decades, even since she

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was a child, he wanted to meet. It's like, Oh,

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I'd love to meet this person that they have a

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snake wrapped around their neck as a pet, of course.

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Plus it's a good opener, isn't it. I excuse me.

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I don't know if you noticed that. I hope not

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to disturb you, but I just want to let you

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know there's a snake around your neck. It's an opener,

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isn't it. It's an opening line. I did that to

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a neighbor the other day. I saw my neighbor go

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out in his dressing gown and get in his car.

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So he rode up the road and turned round and

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started coming back, and I kind of got in front

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of the car. They stopped and he said what I said,

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I think you forgot to get dressed. And I think

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it was a bit too early in the morning, so

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I think he got annoyed a little bit. But I

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thought it was funny. I'm a delivery person. It was funny,

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so but I just thought it was just I knew

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what he was doing because he was just going to

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park the car around the back. But it was like,

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you on the way to work, you've forgotten to get dressed.

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H that was a bit more of a miss than

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to hit that one. But it doesn't matter. But it's

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an opener, isn't it. Maybe not very good, opener. I

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don't think so. Say if if you won the lottery

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and to get the money, he had to walk through

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a shop full of snakes behind in glass cases, you know,

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but he had to walk all the way through a

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big long it's not an awb twire, it avery ovary whatever.

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They're called, the snakes living. But you go all the

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way through that in order to collect the money. Would

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you do it? Motivation? So it's a feeling, one feeling

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versus another feeling, that feeling that you had before versus

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the feeling of being extremely wealthy with life changing money.

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You could take it a bit further. I say, okay,

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once you get that this so you can have the money.

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But if you look in a small print, you do

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have to stroke snake. But you don't have to do

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it now. The money will stay here. All you've got

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to do is stroke the snake. Come back as often

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as you want. So it sounded like there was more

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coming in that sentence. Isn't it come back as often

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as you want? And no, that was the end there was.

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That was a full stop. So come back as often

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as you want. That will do better, woudn't it? So

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you can keep visiting there every day with those millions

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and millions in a big briefcase or whatever money comes in,

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but you're not allowed that money. So you've walked through

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the aquarium. Is it aquarium a varium? I think avarium

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might be the word. She walks through, all snakes on

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each side. Now you're not even thinking about those anymore.

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That's not even an issue. You're thinking about touching the snake,

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but you're also thinking about the money. Yet, previous to

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this situation, you would not have wanted to have walked.

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In fact, you wouldn't have walked all the way through

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there with those snakes in cases, glass cases either side.

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You wouldn't have done that. But now that's almost like

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it's not even relevant anymore. So you walk into the end.

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You've got the person there. So what if the person

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is there is the person that you really have always

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wanted to see, always wanted to meet. A childhood hero,

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maybe your favorite singer, your favorite actor. Maybe it's someone

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that you've you've got you're secretly in love with. I

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don't know, it could be anything. What would you do?

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Would you would you stroke the snake? It's just about benefits.

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What what would you do for the benefits, what benefits

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outweigh or more stronger because it's emotions ultimately, isn't it?

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So what emotions outweigh the old emotions, So that feeling

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as you stand there, maybe there's a big table full

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of cash. Maybe maybe it's not in a suitcase. It's

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just a big, massive table full of cash like you're

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seeing those in Yeah, you see it in movies, don't you,

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sometimes where they go into a bank and a vault

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and it's just on a like a crate or palette,

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just full of cash, millions and millions. But you can't

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even take one banknote until you stroke that snake. It's

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just kind of like, Okay, what would you do? What

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do you imagine yourself doing? Do you mentione this self, like, no,

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keep the money, I don't need money, or do you

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see yourself motivated? Or maybe you start to think perhaps

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the idea of changing phobias, it's not a bad idea.

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Find something you're never ever going to do ever in

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your life. So have a phobia of walking on the

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moon when you're ever going to walk on the moon.

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That's a nice phobia to have as far as it's

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never going to affect you. Now, it's something you're never

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going to have to do, traveling through space, digging down

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to the Earth's core. You know, it's something that you're

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very unlikely to ever do. So having a phobia for

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that walking on the moon, that's not a bad phobia

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to have if you swap it over, especially if it

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makes you rich. But to be fair, even better than

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money is to have that freedom, because once one phobia goes,

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the others seem to just flip away, like as I say, bingos,

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but dominoes with bingos, bingo cards, I mean bingo cards

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are just flattened. They that makes no sense, So it

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weakens it. Though it's the old analogy, isn't it Like

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if you've got a bit of steel, you can bend it,

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keep bending it, keep bending it. Eventually it will just snap.

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When I say bend it, I'm not talking about me

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bending it, but you know, sort of probably machinery. But

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eventually it will snap because it becomes a weak or

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weaker the more it's bent, So that thing that was

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super solid it's now just gone. Accidentally, sometimes because listening

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to this you might have thought, oh I just listened

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to this, this is going to be especially after first

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hearing me, you might thought, oh, this is just ridiculous.

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He's just talking crap. He's talking a bunch of crap.

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It sounds like he's you're on drugs or something. I'm not.

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I'm on medication. But not I'm on drugs. I'm on medication.

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Don't worry, You're safe. But then sometimes listening to something

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like this can have almost like an accidental benefit, because

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your mind changes in a way. It can change the

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way that you view yourself and the way you think

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about things, and those images and maybe those little movie

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clips that you used to play in the past about

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snakes seemed to have become a little bit muffled. So

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I've got video tapes, I say videotapes, got video that

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I made because I used to make videos on YouTube,

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MySpace first, then YouTube, you know, nearly twenty years ago,

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and some of those videos are just worn out, even

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though it's digital. It's just terrible picture. But at the

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time it wasn't that bad. And it's a little bit

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like facts or not facts. A photocopy is I don't

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know if people usually they use photocopies anymore, but you do.

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The first photocopy is a really good picture. But then

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when you take a photocopy of a photocopy, then a

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photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy, eventually it's a

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terrible picture. And it's a little bit like that with

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memories sometimes because our memories get muddled together anyway, that's

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been proven by psychology experts that even our memories aren't

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exact or precise. Which is the same meaning? Really, isn't that? I

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don't know why I said it twice? But how you

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view yourself? How has it changed just in this last

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little bit of time that we're spent together, this quality

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time of nonsense. It goes back to the first question.

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What benefit is there to have any kind of emotional

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reaction to snakes? Where's the benefit? How does it improve

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in your life? How does it improving your day to day?

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Is it making you rich? Is it improving your health? So?

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How often would you need to go back to that table,

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walking past the snakes in the glass cases that you're

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not even noticing anymore? How long would it take? How

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often would you need to visit looking at that big

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pile of money before you were able to stroke that snake?

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How fed up would you get? Keep visiting and leaving,

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especially when you think about what you could do with

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that money and how you could help others. So eventually

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he say, okay, i'll er I'll stroke the snake, and

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you touch it. I'll touch the snake. I did. My

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friend at a snake. I touched it. It was all right,

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didn't excite me, didn't repulse me. I was neutral, you know,

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I touched it. I didn't suddenly want to start collecting snakes.

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You know, every time I see a snake on TV,

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I don't do handstands. You know, I'm not that excited

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by it. But just I touched one. Yeah, it's just

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it's a snake. But I wasn't. I didn't care about

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it anymore because you know, those snakes were in my

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friend's flat downstairs. They weren't always in the case. Often

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they were just he was holding them, and I just

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got used to it. Almost didn't care. Really, Okay, he

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loved them. I didn't really get that. I didn't really understand.

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But then he didn't understand. Why what is it, Finny,

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I was only rubbing your tummy. It was such a wall.

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Sometimes I was rubbing your tummy. You should be in

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a good mood. You've had treats, you've been out, have you.

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He I think it's a bit too warm for him today.

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I think it's uh, it's cloudy outside, but it is

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still fairly warm. So yeah, it's kind of of one

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of those things. It's amazing how easily our minds change.

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I know there's this whole thing where it takes ages

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to change Mary, Mary Mate, all that stuff, but actually

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sometimes it can be instantly. I remember there was this, uh,

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this female that worked in an office and I just

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I took a dislike to her. I don't know why.

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I just just she seemed I don't know, it's something

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about I didn't like, and she just came didn't come

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across as particularly nice person. There's no real reason for that.

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And then we had the annual ball, the company annual ball,

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and I was seated next to her. She was lovely,

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really nice person. We had a good laugh, and we

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just hadn't talked. We hadn't spoken to each other before.

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She was in a different team to me, there was

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no reason for us to really communicate. But I would

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see a walk past and stick a finger up at me.

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No she didn't, she didn't do that, but I kind

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of regreted putting chew incumbing her hair after that, and

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I did I didn't put che in coming a hair.

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I didn't, But it's it's just how that way I

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felt changed. Or another time I was when I worked

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in a call center. I was talking to this man,

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the customer, and he was an absolute ass all the

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way through the recording, grumpy, miserable, which is guess another

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word for grumpy, isn't it. But he didn't want to

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answer any of the questions. And with current insurance, there's

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a lot of questions, and he was awkward all the

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way through. And then right at the end, I asked

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him if you've got any medical conditions that's part of

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the questionnaire. He said, yeah, he's been diagnosed with Parkinson's,

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only just diagnosed. As soon as he said that, our

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relationship changed and we were just for something changed. It

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just like we got on we were laughing and we

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got married last year. No we didn't, but yeah, it

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was really it's like completely changed. His attitude towards me changed,

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My attitude towards him changed instantly, like bang done. So

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changes don't have to take ages and ages and ages.

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In fact, there's ways of changing something a lot quicker

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than the length of this recording. But I think it's

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worth heard a bit of fudd along the way. You know. So,

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if you've got two images, putting one next to each other,

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one's image of walking on the moon, the other image

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is of a snake, you just have to choose one.

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Choose one that you're not bothered by, Choose one that

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you would not do. So it's not like you're bothered

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by a picture of someone walking on the moon, because ultimately,

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you know, what does it matter. It's just a picture

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and you probably see it many times over the years.

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But the idea of walking on the moon yourself is

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not something that you can want to do, or you

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could go even sillier with it. Forget the moon bit.

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Imagine trying to Yeah, so I'm just thinking of a

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helicopter made of cheese. So trying to take off in

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a helicopter made of cheese? Would you do it? So

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if someone said to it, I know it's ridiculous, but

466
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:05.159
it's supposed to be. If someone said, oh, we're going

467
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:10.960
to take you in a helicopter, I said, okay, helicopter ride,

468
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:16.559
and and you walk up and it's you like, wait

469
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:22.199
a minute, it looks like it's made of cheese. And

470
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.239
they laugh and say, yeah it is. It's a it's

471
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:33.440
a new prototype. And you say, but it's made of cheese.

472
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:41.639
I said, yeah, all of it, I said, yeah, yeah,

473
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:46.400
apart from the engine. Unfortunately, the engine it just kept melting,

474
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:51.760
so we didn't we couldn't couldn't have a cheesey engine.

475
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:58.360
But everything else is cheese. And the good thing is

476
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.320
when you're inside, if you're little bit hungry, you can

477
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.639
just take a little bit off, have a little bite.

478
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:11.119
Some people bring their own bread lord toaster. I said,

479
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:15.840
what about the propellers, Yeah, propellers made of cheese? Would

480
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.079
you get into that? I mean, I'd get into it,

481
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.199
but I wouldn't want to go up in it. I

482
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:23.480
don't have a little look. I mean, how could you

483
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.960
not want to have a little look? But would you

484
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.239
get up? Would you go up in that helicopter if

485
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:39.199
it was made all of cheese? Or if you're about

486
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.599
to go on a big cruise and you got there,

487
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.480
you got to the ferry or wherever it was that

488
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.480
the ships are, and you saw your ship and instead

489
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:55.480
of being like the normal ships, it was a huge,

490
00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:04.679
huge piece of paper shaped into a boat same size

491
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.519
as a ship, but just one huge piece of paper,

492
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.880
and it was floating on the water and they said,

493
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.880
that's your ship. Let me show you to your cabin.

494
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:24.159
Is a cabin made of cheese? By anyway? And how

495
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:31.320
did you know? Would you get on that ship? So

496
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:33.920
may argue this is getting a bit absurd. What's this

497
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:40.880
got to do with not caring about snakes? But I

498
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:44.960
just thinking, if you think of an absurd situation that

499
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.000
you wouldn't be worried about because it's not going to

500
00:45:48.000 --> 00:46:03.360
happen anyway, I think of another thing. Let's think I

501
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:05.159
can't think that. There's lots of things, but I mean,

502
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:09.519
I don't want to get too caught up in absurdities.

503
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:20.679
But what would you choose? Maybe a train made of

504
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:26.719
match sticks? Match sticks do still exist, I think, so

505
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:39.559
a train made of match sticks, an oven made of

506
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.480
match sticks? Wow, that wouldn't be a good idea, but

507
00:46:42.599 --> 00:47:01.199
it get to use it once self lighting. So when

508
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:09.000
you think about snakes, what's changed? Be honest? What is

509
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:10.079
you're bothered by?

510
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:10.239
It?

511
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:15.880
Really bothered by a snake? Ooh a snake? Is it?

512
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:23.559
That might come across as a bit mocking but I

513
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.800
guess it was supposed to it not a bad way,

514
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:40.760
just in a mocking way, in a way where it

515
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.039
sounds like someone is doing a washing up down there,

516
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.400
but they're doing it angrily and angry washer upper. Don't

517
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.440
we get that? You hear that, and they're just smashing

518
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:53.280
the plates down, which is funny because it's only one

519
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:57.400
person lives down there. Maybe it's a month's worth of

520
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:02.519
washing up. I did that once. I had about twenty

521
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.880
plates loads of stuff. In the end I had to

522
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.440
do it wash them in the bath, to soak them

523
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:11.800
in the bath because they were just solid. Everything on

524
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:16.800
them was solid. Now I've only got one plate, two dishes,

525
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:22.719
one plate, two spoons, one knife, one fork, which means

526
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.039
I can't I can't really get behind in the washing up.

527
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:37.239
You may wonder what's that got to do with not

528
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:44.880
caring about not caring about the snakes washing up and

529
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:48.519
how many plates I've got. I don't know. It might

530
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:55.000
have something to do with it. I mean, this is like,

531
00:48:55.239 --> 00:49:02.800
let me boil your phobia away, So it is that's

532
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:04.920
kind of what it is. Did I mention that let

533
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.440
me boil your phobia away at the beginning. I don't

534
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:11.559
know if I did. Sorry, Yeah, so this is when

535
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.920
I just talk about a phobia and I just waff along.

536
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:20.679
I've actually got a podcast specifically for this. Believe it

537
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:25.920
or not. Oh yes, I do, I really really do.

538
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:31.719
I can't believe it, but I do. I might have

539
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:43.079
some ice cream ice cream. That's a good time about it.

540
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:44.920
That's a good time. That's a good thing about the

541
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:51.760
time this time of year, because I like to have

542
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:56.119
the odd cornetto probably once a day. That might be

543
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.280
a little bit too often, but yeah, I like to

544
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:01.519
do like a little bit of ice cream. I do

545
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:06.000
also need to be careful my sugar intake, but I

546
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.239
don't think there's any sugar in ice cream. And the

547
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:13.400
cone there's chocolate. There's no sugar in chocolate either, I

548
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:17.719
don't think, so it should be fine. I don't know

549
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.639
about the cone though, the cone, the cornetto cone, I

550
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.719
don't know if there's any sugar in that, but the

551
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:30.840
rest of it should be fine. And the strawberry sauce,

552
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:32.920
well that's strawberries, so they're good for you, and they

553
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.880
so imagine the sauce is just made of pure strawberries,

554
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:42.679
perhaps melted strawberries, because when strawberries melt, they go or gooey,

555
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:52.000
don't they? Or that's more when they dissolve, if there

556
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.239
are frozen, or if you tread on them, they go

557
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:06.440
gooby as well. How do you feel different to the

558
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:13.840
way you felt before you decided to listen to my

559
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:25.079
squeaky voice talking maybe about random things throughout this recording,

560
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:30.480
perhaps not as serious as you thought it was going

561
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:37.119
to be, possibly, but how do you feel though? That's

562
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:42.159
the thing that's the bottom line as far as I'm concerned,

563
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.400
regardless of what I do or say, it's about how

564
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:59.760
you feel different, how you could notice those changes with

565
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:11.519
the in yourself, and perhaps you're surprised at those changes.

566
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:36.400
Maybe just notice how relaxed you feel, and how you

567
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:55.480
realize that your mind changes so easily. And once you

568
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:59.320
realize that you're no longer bothered by snakes, you know,

569
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:12.159
not above by them. It's that simple, and you can relax,

570
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:44.159
really really relax, let go completely, dissolve completely, And maybe

571
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.480
maybe you've noticed, or maybe you haven't noticed, that your

572
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:54.519
mind has slowed down. You'll breathe and slow down and

573
00:53:54.559 --> 00:54:10.880
become deeper naturally your body is relaxed. Maybe you've noticed

574
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:17.199
or maybe you haven't noticed that you're feeling good, you're

575
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:24.719
feeling calm. Perhaps those parts of your body, there are

576
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:28.119
parts of your body that feel pleasure, and perhaps that

577
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:39.679
pleasure can spread and you can feel that sense of

578
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:45.800
release not just in your muscles, but in your bones

579
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:56.880
and your eyes, your face, and your shoulders and your back,

580
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:07.440
your chest and your stomach, your neck, hands and fingers, arms,

581
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:22.679
your hips, legs, feet and toes, all the way from

582
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:30.159
the top of your head, moving down your spine, moving

583
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:46.280
through your nervous system to every single part of your body. Calming, loosening, relaxing, peaceful,

584
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.800
And that brings us to the end of this recording.

585
00:55:57.119 --> 00:56:01.480
So please remember to be to yourself because you do

586
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:06.119
deserve to be happy, and be gentle of yourself because

587
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:12.559
you deserve to feel safe. And you can listen to

588
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.119
this as many times as you need to, and every

589
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:23.880
time you do listen, you become more relaxed and your

590
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:32.039
mind will open up and absorb more of the positivity.

591
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:36.960
Lots of love. Bye,