Aug. 22, 2025

(no music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1419 | Jason Newland | 22nd August 2025

(no music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1419 | Jason Newland | 22nd August 2025
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Hello, and welcome to Jasondewland dot com. My name's Jason

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new Land. Please only listen when you can safely closure eyes.

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And this is Q and a Friday.

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Yees it is Q and ae Q and AQ and

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no Friday.

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Ooh.

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Vinny is on the floor and he is chomping on

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a bony thing. So he's a he's a happy little bunny.

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He's had a good day. He sat. We went to

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the pet shop or he equals it the sweet shop

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a couple of hours ago, and it just yeah, got

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him a few bits and bobs and he's very happy.

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He got to carry one home and he was like

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the proudest little doggie in the whole wide world. It's

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almost like he won the lottery. Couldn't be happier as

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The happiest I'll ever see is when he's doing that.

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So happy yeah, so yeah, Q and a Friday. I

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did promise that I would do.

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Oh oh, go or.

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I'm trying to go to the page. Okay, two hundred

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and twenty one members. I'm sure I had two and

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twenty two members yesterday. Okay, this is my Jason Newland's

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boring group John. If you want to, if you want to.

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If you don't want to, then don't. But if you

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do want to, then do so let's say a Look,

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I've got a lot of questions to get through, so

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what I'm going to do is ask the very first question,

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which I said I'd promised that I would ask first. Okay, yeah, Megan.

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So I've got questions from Ing, Ing, Christine, Meghan, Christine again, Robin, Hillary, Hope, Marry, Julie, Karen,

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and Rich. If for any reason I have missed out anybody,

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then let me know and I'll lead you a question

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for next week. I've tried to kind of get questions

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from different places wherever I've been sent them into one place.

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So starting off with Megan, I hope you're all well, yeah,

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I just had a delivery of all the because I've

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been trying to stock up for the winter like a

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big fat bear that I am, and it's going quite well,

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Actually it's quite It feels fairly nice, you know, to

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know that all the stuff is well, not everything I need,

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but a lot of stuff that I need, like soap,

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washing up, liquid, tea bags, toilet roll, wet wipes, toothpaste, soap, deodorant,

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and trying to think what else. That's pretty much it.

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But all that stuff's now, I haven't got to buy

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anymore for the year for the rest of the year,

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so it's all all done, and you know, I can't

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even And I've got a lot of water as well,

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so one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nineteen,

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I've probably got about thirty days worth of world water.

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So it's you know, it's it's good. I'm pleased with

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that because I'm trying to just plan ahead, you know,

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because it's okay to not have any money. It's not okay,

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but you know, it's one thing not having much money.

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But if I've got what I need, then it doesn't

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matter that much, you know. If all I've got to

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do is just get the very the beare basics food wise,

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you know, I can go and get some pasta and

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some milk, and you know it. It's it's just this

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is what I used to do in the past, stock

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up for like a year ahead, and it was nice.

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I just had it all day and I didn't have

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to think about it. I mean, in twenty twenty, I

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had enough toilet paper because some of my listeners sent

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me toilet paper in I had enough toilet paper to

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last me for about six months, maybe a year. Honestly,

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it was brilliant. Anyway, Vennis make a lot of weird,

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grunty noises. You're okay, Vin, You're right, okay, always frowning.

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He's got a permanent frown in his face. Okay. So, Megan,

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I always want to ask a question, but I know

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it will never I never hear the answer because I

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fall asleep within the first ten minutes. Hopefully you get

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to hear the answer for this one, but I'll give

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it a go. You may be nicist before, but if

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you could eat one meal for the rest of your life,

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what would it be? For the record, mine would be

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Jack of potato, baked beans, coalslaw, and in an ideal

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world where I was allowed to eat it, loads and

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loads of cheese, and yeah, I'd add my coalslaw and

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beans on the same plate. And it does go before

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anyone tells me otherwise. I hope you're doing okay, Thanks, Megan.

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I hope you are as well. I agree with you

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the last bit. It does go together. Why would why

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would it have to be on a separate plate? Mind you,

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If you go into a restaurant, I say restaurant. I

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mean probably pub pub food, but there's sometimes you do

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get the cold snow beyond a little plate on its

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side when like a little dish. Yeah, I like to

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mix things up, really, yeah, I like to mix things up.

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I like to mix things up. I'm just just checking

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something here because it's weird. But the hold on a second. Yeah,

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I just had to check something quickly because I thought

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the microphone wasn't working. But it does seem to be

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so the same meal every day, I'd probably go for

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a roast dinner like a Christmas dinner. Yeah, I mean

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I think if I had to have the same thing

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every day, the same meal every day, I probably would

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get a little bit bored. However, with a Christmas dinner,

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there's quite a lot of different things. So if I wasn't,

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you know, it'd be a big lots you know, turnips, turnips,

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parsnips rather parsnips, every single vegetable, mashed potato, roast potato,

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Yorkshire puddings galore, and see, yeah, it'd be a plenty.

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You know, I could kind of if I was in

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a non roast potato day, I could just not eat

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the roast potatoes. So it'd be a big plate and

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the dessert as well with ice cream. So I guess

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Christmas pudding with ice cream. Yeah, I could do that,

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although I think if I was going to have something,

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i'd probably go more for something like an apple pie

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and ice cream or yeah, something like that. Yeah, I

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think so it be I think a roast dinner. I

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do like a roast inner, and I really have one.

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But yeah, I think that's what I would choose every

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day this although a roasting is not my favorite food,

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which makes you wonder why am I choosing that? But

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if I chose kind of my one of my favorite things,

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I don't. I like pizza, but I don't like eating

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pizza too often because it's a treat. You know, sweet

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corn and pineapple pizza is a treat. If I had

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it every day, i'd get very bored of it very quickly.

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Even if I had it twice a week, that would

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be too much. Once a week, yeah, once a week's okay,

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on a Saturday maybe, although I haven't done that for

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a bit. You used to do that, because before I

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moved here, I used to get a pizza delivered large

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pizza for ten pounds because they did a discount and

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it was like great, and then they put them up

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to like seventeen pound and now I think it's like

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twenty five pounds to get our pizza delivered like a

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large pizza. I know it's a ten year period, but

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BlimE me, blim in eck. So that's a big increase,

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isn't it.

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So yeah, that's kind of.

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I'd like to have a menu. I think if I

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could like have a menu, the same menu for every

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day with lots of different options, that would suit me better.

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But at the same time, I do kind of eat

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the same things every day. So if you was to say,

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what would I have for breakfast every day? Well, I

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do have the same thing for breakfast every day, and

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it's ready break with some dried fruit on top. So

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I have that every single morning, and it's my favorite

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meal of the day, if I'm honest. That's the one

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thing I probably enjoy most because I've gone like, you know,

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eight ten whatever hours about eating and yeah, I enjoy

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that meal. It's not a meal, is it, But I

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enjoy that little bit of food. Is it food? It's

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ready break food? Yeah, hmm. I think that'd be it. However,

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if it was like what. I don't know how much

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I'd enjoy eating it every day though. M Yeah, I'm

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going to stick with that. A roast dinner, but you know,

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with lots of guys and side plates with stuff, you know,

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it's like Yorkshire put in as many as I want. Yeah,

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so it'd be a meal, but it'd be on a table. Vinnie,

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Please don't bark, please mate, Please don't know. Don't turn

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your head because you're trying to hear more so, I'm

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trying to stop him from barking, and he's listening, but

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he's turned his head now like with his ears flicked up.

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Don't there's nothing of interest to hear, Vinnie. You've got

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me listen. You listen to me and be bored like

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everyone else. Come on, don't need you need to be barking.

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He's been very playful today. It's been nice. So I

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hope I answered your question, Megan. I don't know if

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I have, but I hope I have. It's yeah, I

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feel I'm going to go for roast dinner Christmas dinner,

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but without the hat, without the Christmas crackers. Yeah, do

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you know? At Christmas? Right, I my three of my

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family members came down to where I lived, my town.

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It was beginning of Chris. It was like, I don't know,

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second first week of December something like that. On a Saturday,

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I couldn't book the place we normally go to, you

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know when we meet out for a cup of coffee

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or whatever. So what I did is because it was

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full up, like Christmas dinners were booked. So I contacted

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the local pub well just up the road, and they

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said and I did it online. They said, yeah, yes, fine,

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what do you want to order? And I ordered the food,

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Christmas dinner and everything, expecting when I got there that

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it was going to be full of people having the

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Christmas dinner and it wasn't. It was just had a

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few people in there drinking, and we were the only

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table decorated for Christmas, all the tables that are in there,

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because it's quite a big pub with like a restaurant

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area as well, two restaurant areas actually, And I felt

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very self conscious, I really did. I didn't. I don't like,

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I don't know, being in public, and it almost might

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as well just have a big sign saying look at us,

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look at us. So I didn't. I couldn't relax, I

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couldn't relax. To be honest, that I just couldn't because

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I was in public and my dad insisted on me

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wearing a Christmas hat because he wanted to have picture

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took and stuff like. I don't mind if it's at

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home or if it's you know, inside a private place,

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but I don't wear it. I don't want to wear

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a Christmas hat in public. Just it's just my little thing.

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I just don't. Yeah, it just doesn't fit well with me.

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But at the same time, it was still nice to

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see them, but just it wasn't didn't kind of go

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how I was expecting, right, inc asks me, do you

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prefer personal questions or general ones? Do you have questions

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that you didn't answer before because they were too personal?

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Did I have any questions? Well, I can't tell you

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what those questions are, can I? Because they were personal.

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And I don't mind what kind of questions I get. Really,

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I don't mind. If there's one I don't want to answer,

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then I'll just be vague and and I'll just make

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it a very short question. You have very short answer

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right next, Christine, I'm joking. So, yeah, I'm trying to

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think of any personal questions that I wasn't able to

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ask answer other I don't. I can't think of any offhand.

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There's been some questions put to me that were worded

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very very unusual, and I didn't quite understand really what

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the where the question was coming from. That's quite rare.

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It's just my lack of not really getting what the

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question was. No, not really, I don't think there's been anything.

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Bearing in mind, I talk about my personal life and

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my personal thoughts, and I talk about bipolar and I

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talk about all my little bits and stuff that's going

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on in my life. All very boring stuff, of course,

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but I'm fairly open with what's going on. So yeah,

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I'm it's yeah, I'm okay with any questions. If this

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one I don't want to answer, I just won't answer it,

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to be honest with you, If it's if the something that,

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but I haven't really had anything like that. No one's

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just come out and asked me a rude question. So

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it's but then I wouldn't expect that because this is

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my Facebook group, and I wouldn't expect someone on this

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group to be having a go at me. I'd like

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to think they wouldn't. Please, don't just love me please

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love me. So yeah, I can't think of anything that

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I didn't answer. I think my brother's a bit of

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a touchy subject, to be fair, like family stuff, I

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don't really I know. I've talked about my dad a

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little bit, talked about my stepmums, but I don't really

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go into any kind of detail, and I don't go

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into detail about my family or that dog that's by

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bless him. The counselors started working on the flat downstairs,

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so I'm sure I heard someone shout out, what's all

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this pain doing everywhere? Because someone's like sprayed paint all

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in the hallway and stuff. I don't know why, bless him?

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And oh yeah, the uncle sausages funerals next Thursday. So

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that's all gone ahead now. So it's definitely going to

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go ahead because we managed to find the correct information.

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So yeah, it's definitely going ahead on Thursday, next Thursday,

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so I possibly won't be making a recording that day,

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and I've got to find a way to get out

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of bed on that morning. I don't know how. The

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twenty eighth, so it's two days after my birthday. Yeah,

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fifty five years old on Tuesday, this coming Tuesday, fifty

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five fifty five. Even if you say it quick, it

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still sounds old. Fifty five still sounds old. Ah. So

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Christine asked me, does the chippy van still come to

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your flats? Yeah? I mean it doesn't come directly to

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where I live, but it comes like in the local area.

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And Uncle Sausages was their most regular customer for years

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and years and years. They even used to buy him

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Christmas presents. Seriously, at Christmas, they'd actually buy him when

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they bought a box of chocolates last year. He's a regular,

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so they know that they can come here every single

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week of the year and it won't be a wasted journey.

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I mean, they've got lots of stops along the way

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and then a lot of stops probably afterwards as well.

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But he's always there. He's you know, sometimes I had

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to kind of let him know it was there because

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he wasn't hearing the truck anymore. He was getting the van,

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so but I used to kind of let him know.

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But that's only like more recently, like the last six

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months or so. Before that, he was always he go

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out there and just wait. So, yeah, still still there.

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I saw them. The thing is the last two weeks

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I've wanted to go down there and tell them I

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just couldn't face it. To be honest, I couldn't face

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going down there, and just yeah, I couldn't face it.

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Last Thursday and last night I think it was couldn't

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face couldn't, Just couldn't. I need to and I really

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do need to, because you know, they really liked him

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and he liked them, and they just they talk about sport,

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and cricket was the main thing that they discuss, because

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I think they're from I think they was. They supported

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Pakistan and Uncle's Sausages supported Northern Ireland, but he also

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kind of supported England as well, if you know, if

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Northern Island weren't playing. And but he liked everyone. He

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liked all teams, whether it's Australia, where whoever, South Africa.

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He just was a big cricket fan. But it was

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also a huge I don't think it was not all sports,

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but definitely most of the sports that are big in

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this country. So football is his main thing, and then

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you've got rugby, cricket, badminton probably not, I don't think.

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So what's the other one? Golf? He never mentioned racing,

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car driving, so like f one. So I don't think

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Formula one, isn't it. It's such a long word to

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say Formula one. No, f one. It's too much effort

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to say formula So he never mentioned liking that, but

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that I don't know football football? Is it? Boxing? He

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kind of He was mildly interested if it was someone

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from Northern Ireland because that was where he was from.

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That's where he was born. He told me he was born.

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He told me he was Scottish. Yeah, and I thought

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by that he meant he was born in Scotland. He wasn't.

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He was born in Northern Ireland. His parents were Scottish,

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or one of his parents are Scottish, so he's used

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to armed Scottish. It's like, well, yeah, yeah, and no.

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I mean both my NaN's parents were Irish. So that

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makes her Irish, doesn't it. If all of her ancestors,

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probably going back thousands of years or Irish, there's a

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good chance you could really say she's Irish because both

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her parents were Irish. However, she was born in London,

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so she was always in English as well. Whether or

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not she had a dual passport on nationality, I don't know,

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but I don't really know how it all works. But

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she was English or British as well, and Irish. But

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it was weird because I found his passport, not his

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passport is yeah, I found his passports. I had to

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find that, but that was when he was in hospital.

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He asked me to do that, and then his next

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a kin asked me to find if I could his

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birth certificate. That took a lot of finding, but I

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did in the end, and it was just a replace

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for a birth certificate that he got about twenty five

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years ago. And it says on there that he was

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born in Northern Ireland, wasn't born in Scotland. It's like,

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why did you today? He was sticking to it. I'm Scottish, Okay,

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do you have so? Yeah, the chippy van does still come.

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I try not to go down there because you know what,

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one sausage costs about three pound. It's a big sausage,

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but still three pound. And I can get like a

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whole pack of sausages I can cook, not that I

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generally am much of a like a cook, but just

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three pounds for sausage just seems like a lot. Maybe

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I'm behind the times. It seems like a lot of

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money for just a sausage three pound. Can I say

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one more time? It just seems it seems like a lot.

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That's it. That's all I got to say. And Christine,

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I'm getting through these quite quickly. And I Christine asks,

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have you ever tried ventiliquism, as you're very funny and

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good with dual dialogue. Well, thank you very much, Christine.

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I do actually have a ventilquistal that's the weird one

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in it. It's true. And I did do a video

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on YouTube a yeares ago, ages and ages ago. But

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I did have Vinnie at the time, and Vinnie did

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not like it. So I don't know if i'd had

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how long i'd had Vinnie four at this point. So

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I ordered this thing off of I guess probably Amazon,

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and so I'm doing a view. I'll say you what

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all I found strange is if you're not resting your

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arm or anything, it does take its toll on your

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arm holding this thing up all the time and just

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loving your hands and stuff. I don't remember the videos

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on there. It was let me boy you to Sleep video.

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It's on YouTube somewhere. She'll try and find it. Let's

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try and find it. I don't even know if it'll

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be on here YouTube, YouTube, because there'll be a picture

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of me on there if I put in search. Let

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me bore you to sleep, let me boy you to sleep.

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Just skipping down. There's too many. There's way too many.

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I'm like, yeah, take me quite a while to try

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and find that. At the moment, I every single new

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recording I do gets released onto YouTube as part of

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my podcast, so all six versions get uploaded, and this two.

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There's way too many. It's yeah, yeah, it's I don't

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think I'm going to be like this will take There's

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probably a quicker way to find it than the way

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I've chosen, because it's it might have been a live one. No,

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I don't think I did it. It might have been.

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I don't think I did, though, but it might have been.

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I'm just looking. I'm looking, and I'm looking. I'm looking

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looking looking, dibdy do dibdd look in I'm looking. No, anyway,

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it's definitely it's one where I'm actually on the camera

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with Vinnie for part of it, and the dolly, the

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doll bent to a liquis doll. There's too many. I've

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made too many recordings. It's very difficult to find stuff

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very difficult. Indeed, ooh, look at this number seven hundred

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and twenty nine Let Me Boy to Sleep Live stream,

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eighteenth September two, tenty twenty one. So I'm now double

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that amount of recordings. So it's now fourteen one hundred

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and something. So well that's got one view successful. Yeah, No,

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it's got to be somewhere. It's got to be. It's

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just gotta be a Oh. I found it. It's called

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Shout Out Welcome to get Sleepy? What hello? And welcome

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to Right? I found out I was played the first

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little bit to here let me Bore You too Sleep.

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My name is Jason Luland, and this is a excuse

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that sounds like me, doesn't It's a podcast to help

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you too, right, So this podcast episode is called Shout

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Out to Tammy let Me Boy to Sleep. It's number

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one eighteen and it was like the seventeenth of July

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twenty twenty three, and it's me with a ventiloquis. Dummy. Now,

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what I got try and do is do it relax?

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How can I do the mute sleep? Maybe if you

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want to fall asleep? What else? I only listen or

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watch this video if it's on a video when you

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can safely close your eyes. Right, the volume's not working,

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so I'm gonna just turn it off. Whoops, So I'm

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back to where it was. So yeah, that was the

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one that I've done one before. I don't know if

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I actually did ventilyquism and on a podcast, it would

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be kind of weird because I was like saying, I'd

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like you to introduce you to Willy fit Willy the

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my friend, my new friend, Willy. Say hello, Willy, Oh

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so how are you getting on today? Oh? Really? Group?

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Oh no, idea what he just said? The thing is

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you can't see me, So why am I? Why am I?

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I might as well just talk? Then it's not a

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ventual equism, is it? Then it? You know? I mean

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I can pretend I've got something my hand inside something, okay, phraser,

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I could. I could pretend that I've got like a

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Ventiloquist doll here, but you wouldn't know if I have

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or not, because it's it's not you can't see me.

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I did. I wanted to be a ventiloquist. I cannot

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not like full on, you know, not in a way

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that I wanted to be a kung fu expert and

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a cloudy man and a singer and all the things

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that I wanted to do when I was younger, but

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I thought it'd be fun because I grew up. And

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there was quite a few ventiloquists around when I was

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a kid on TV, like Keith Harris with Aorville and Cuddles.

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There was Spit the Dog. There was City and Sweep.

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I mean yeah, they there were puppets. There was the

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Muppet Show, and there was things uh burder b bo.

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I'm trying to think of others. But there was a

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few EMU that was and yes, there was quite a

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few different ones when I was a kid. And Orville, well, yeah,

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Orville was my favorite, but I did like the monkey

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as well. So like the Decks, he had the monkey

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and Orville. He had different characters, but Orville and what

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was his name? The monkey he kept saying, I hit

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La Doc, I hit La Doc, and all will go, oh,

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I love you. So I did a voice had a

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number one hit.

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I think I wish I could fly right up to

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the sky, but A can't.

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You can, I can't.

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I wish I could do the things that the other

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birds do.

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You can I can't look over fool who is your

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very best friend.

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You are.

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I want to help you mend your broken heart.

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Now listen to me.

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Oh phil oh phel Yeah, who is your very best friend?

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Staring at me?

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I want to help your men?

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You are what I told you you are.

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I want to help you mend your broken heart.

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I realized that he got he came himself more verses

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in that song than he gave Orville, didn't he. I

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mean Orville's only real verse was like, I wish I.

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Could fly around top tail a scab, but a can't.

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Wish I could do the things that they other birds do,

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but I can't.

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And then the other bits like you are you are?

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And that's it? Mind you did do? He sung with

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Keith Harris. No, he wouldn't have sung with Keith Harris

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because that would be impossible, isn't it now? He sung

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a little bit of someone part of the sentence, Yeah,

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anyway that I kind of wanted to do. I'd tell

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you who was my biggest my biggest, biggest influence as

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a kid, like quite a young kid comedy wise, and

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that was Kenny Everett. I loved Kenny Everett and he

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was hilarious and I think he still is hilarious. I mean,

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he's no longer with us, but he was funny, just

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wacky and he Yeah, it's really, my personal opinion, one

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of the greatest comedy shows, like on a Saturday evening

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kind of comedy show, because it was so irreverent, irreverend

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is that the right word. It was so out there.

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I don't know, it was just it was great, really great,

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and he was so funny. And I used to he

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had all these characters, and I kind of learned the

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whole his whole thing. And I used to do do

468
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.039
I think me and my brother we used to do

469
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:10.000
entertaining each other on the beach in the summer, and

470
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:12.960
we'd do the characters, or perhaps I'd do it to

471
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:17.239
complete strangers if they were stuck in the sand or something,

472
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:19.079
if someone who buried them in the sand. I think,

473
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.559
all captive audience and I'll be going and done.

474
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.760
In the best possible taste.

475
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:35.760
Or it's not here and other characters. Yeah, I loved, loved, loved, loved, loved, loved.

476
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:39.039
I would have liked to have met him. He was

477
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.880
so He was a comedy hero of mine. And he

478
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:48.119
wasn't a stand up comedian. He was a DJ but

479
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.760
he had the funny jingles. I used to listen to him.

480
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.360
So I listened to him when I was a little kid.

481
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.800
I don't know, eight nine ten, I don't know what year,

482
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:02.000
what kind of period it was. And then when I

483
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.559
was in my early twenties, I used to listen to

484
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.920
him on Radio two. I think it might have been

485
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:12.800
because we had a radio on all the time and

486
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.639
we used to listen to that. It might have been

487
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.480
it might have been Radio Gold or Capital Gold, but anyway,

488
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.719
very funny, and he had all these jingles that were funny,

489
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:30.719
and he was just so creative with the whole thing.

490
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:39.440
So yeah, my top my favorite DJ of all time. Yeah,

491
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:47.360
him my favorite comedy show. Not my favorite comedy show.

492
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.920
I'd be wrong to say that, but it's the one

493
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:55.840
that I probably enjoyed the most watching would be Kenny

494
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:58.960
of It because it was just so funny. I just

495
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:06.719
I thought it's hilarious. Now, Christine, that is not the

496
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.719
question you asked. I've answered a different question that's not

497
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:16.719
been asked, which will happen occasionally, as anyone that listens

498
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.800
to me will know. But I'd say it sometimes I

499
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:26.679
quite enjoyed doing the due dialogue thing, and but I

500
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.119
just do it when it comes, you know, when it

501
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:34.920
just when it's organic and it just comes from nowhere,

502
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:37.079
and I don't know it's going to happen, and it

503
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.880
just happens, and I just I just go along with it.

504
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.599
And sometimes it goes on for ages and ages and ages.

505
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:48.360
Other times this is very short, and I've done nearly

506
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.039
like I've done a whole recordings in the past, that

507
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:57.159
being practically a duel dialogue, just like a conversation for

508
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.039
the whole thing between two people that aren't even there,

509
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:06.159
you know, and it goes off into a different it's

510
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:18.320
a different dimension. It's very strange. However, however, I was

511
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:21.480
at a wedding. I mightn't wonder where I'm going with this.

512
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:22.559
I was at a wedding.

513
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.280
What's a wedding got to do with this?

514
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.280
Well, if you listen, you find out I was at

515
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.400
a wedding, a family wedding. I think it was my

516
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.239
I don't know, it was someone's wedding. And it's probably

517
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:44.239
about eight years ago, maybe nine years ago. Yes, it's

518
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.559
quite a long time ago, maybe ten, Yes, quite a

519
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:53.119
long time ago. And my dad was strunk. Now, my

520
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.760
dad's really nice drunk like he's the most chilled out,

521
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:03.599
relaxed he drunk that there is. And I've only ever

522
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:08.079
seen him drunk probably three or four times, and a

523
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.519
whole time i've known him. Really, it just never really,

524
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.400
it doesn't get it doesn't really drink to excess. I

525
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.159
think he just paces it throughout the day. But yeah,

526
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.280
it doesn't. I've not seen him drunk very often. He

527
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:30.119
did get He got drunk one Christmas. This was probably

528
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.679
when I was in my twenties, maybe by thirties, but

529
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.599
he just overdid it a little bit and he had

530
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.400
a bit too much to drink before dinner, and he

531
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.599
ended up having to go to bed. But it was

532
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:45.599
up a few hours later and everything's fine. It's just

533
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:48.599
it just it just overdid it a little bit. Because

534
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:58.880
he is mister Christmas. He absolutely loves Christmas. It's yeah,

535
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:03.079
in some ways he turns into Father Christmas or Santa

536
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.960
Claus when he's drunk, Like whatever time of the year is,

537
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:17.239
it is, he's he's kind of that jovial, happy kind.

538
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.440
I don't know how to explain it. It's just really,

539
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.840
you know, so he's I want to say, good drunk.

540
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.760
He's not drunk, has him fallen over, but just you know,

541
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:38.519
but drunk, you know. Anyway, he was sitting on it

542
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.280
at the bar. So this was after all the wedding

543
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:46.519
stuff and all the free food, which is why I went.

544
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:53.679
And we're at the bar. I was drinking. Bearing in mind,

545
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.639
I don't really drink anymore. Since I moved here, I

546
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:02.360
stopped drinking regularly. So ten years ago I still had

547
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:10.679
my weekend lagers, and then probably within a year of

548
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:15.800
being here, I wasn't hardly drinking anything. It just I

549
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.199
got bored of them. I didn't. Maybe it's because I

550
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:23.599
suddenly had a bit of space of my own. I'd

551
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:28.840
work towards getting this place. Well, you know, I didn't

552
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:33.400
need I didn't need it anymore. Not perhaps I don't

553
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:38.199
know if I ever needed it, but I did. I

554
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.440
felt I did. It was in the past. It was

555
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:47.480
definitely self medication. But just prior to moving in here,

556
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:53.719
I was it was pretty much only weekends at that point.

557
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.599
It wasn't every day, and then it turned into never.

558
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:06.920
And I really I don't haven't drunk alcohol on any

559
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:11.360
kind of regular basis for about nine years. So when

560
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:16.119
I go to a hot like an event like a wedding.

561
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:29.000
And I've been to one, two maybe three weddings since

562
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:39.239
I moved in here, maybe two maybe three. And that's

563
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:41.800
the one event I seem to not be able to

564
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:47.719
do without drinking. It's like a mixture is too many people.

565
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.880
It's a little bit of emotional because you know, I

566
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:58.760
don't know. It brings up emotions, I suppose, and alcohol

567
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.800
is the only thing that seems to get me through it.

568
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.639
But it's very rare because I don't go to many weddings.

569
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.360
You know, there's two in the last ten years or three,

570
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.800
and before that I can't even remember. I mean, I

571
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.280
got invited to be invited to weddings I've not gone

572
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.719
to just because I don't really I don't really like

573
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:29.199
them really, too many, too many people, too many people.

574
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:37.880
And funerals. Never drink at I know, I know better

575
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.440
than that. I would not drink alcol at a funeral.

576
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:48.400
So that's something that I've kind of definitely know about myself.

577
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.960
So that's that's good. It's good to it's good to

578
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:59.559
have a little bit of self awareness, I suppose. Why

579
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:04.039
am I talking about this, Oh yeah, my dad said

580
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.880
the wedding. My dad was sitting on a bar stool

581
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:11.320
at the bar, Me and my little brother walk up

582
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:13.360
to him because we're just chatting, and we walk up

583
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:22.000
to him and he's he's on the phone. So he

584
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.199
puts the phone to his ear and he starts talking

585
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:30.360
and he's having this conversation and he said, a wait

586
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.280
a minute to us, and he's talking and it's the

587
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:38.679
weirdest conversation ever, and it's very funny as well. So

588
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:44.519
you can only hear his side of the dialogue. And

589
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:48.199
he goes on for about ten minutes. So me and

590
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:50.800
my brother are laughing at some of the stuff he's saying,

591
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.280
and my brother takes the phone out of his hand.

592
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.320
He said, there's no one there. So my dad was

593
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:03.360
just making up a conversation on the spot, just to

594
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:09.320
entertain us or maybe to entertain himself as well. And

595
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:15.480
it's like, okay, that's interesting because that is something that

596
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.199
I tend to be able to do as well. I'm

597
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.840
not saying that it's a special gift, special gift. I'm

598
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:28.639
sure everyone could do it. But I remember years ago,

599
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:34.039
like when I first started doing these type of recordings,

600
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:36.760
I did used to call them let Me Boy to Sleep.

601
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.159
I used to call them, what did I used to

602
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.800
call them thinking out loud or pretending to think that

603
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.440
was another one. I used to call them pretending to

604
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.920
think that's good. And I had a lot of different

605
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.679
I had a few different versions of this before I

606
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.840
did this, Going back, you know, thirteen fifteen, sixteen years

607
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:06.480
ag go and I had a friend that told me

608
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:11.679
that I needed psychiatric help because I was doing this

609
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:17.440
like stream of consciousness conversation going on and he thought

610
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.440
I was ill, when actually I was just having a

611
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:27.360
bit of fun. Bless him or her, whoever it might be.

612
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.280
So no, I've never tried ventiloquism, not in front of

613
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:40.199
an audience, although I do think I might have gone

614
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:44.079
on stage with a ventiloquist doll once and just had

615
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.840
it in my arm and ignored it and just did

616
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.800
my act because I thought that'd be funny thing to do.

617
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:58.360
I actually one of my first ever gigs, it might

618
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:04.159
be my first gig. I was at the Comedy Comedy

619
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.800
Club and had a new act night, and it's one

620
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:11.639
of my first gigs I'd ever done in London. So

621
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:16.039
I go on stage. I had a piece of paper

622
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:21.000
with some jokes, none of which I don't think got

623
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:24.079
to laugh, but anyway, I was still you know something

624
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:28.840
and this I did get a laugh from what I

625
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.239
did here is I picked something out of the audience.

626
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.679
I said, are you okay to come on stage? And

627
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:38.239
this big, hefty bloke gets on stage. Watch your name,

628
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:41.400
he said, said, and I said, oh, I'm Jason. Hi.

629
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:43.760
I said, if you just stand there, please just hold

630
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:48.760
this piece of paper. And then I ignored him for

631
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:53.199
the next five minutes and he's laughing his head off,

632
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:58.079
and the audience are laughing, not at me, but at him.

633
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:03.599
So technically it was quite a good gig, but it

634
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:06.159
wasn't due to me. It was due to him. I

635
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:10.079
didn't realize he was also a comedian as well, and

636
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:14.159
we became good friends after that because he was. What

637
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:18.920
was weird is he was on right after me, which

638
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:21.159
I didn't know. You know, this is the first time

639
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.480
I'd been in that club, so I didn't know anybody.

640
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.760
I mean, I can't believe he got on stage. You know,

641
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:32.800
the fact he was sitting in the front row just

642
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.039
before he gets on stage. I could never do that.

643
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:37.719
I'd have to be at the bar, pacing or something.

644
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.559
He was so chilled out and relaxed, and then he

645
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.239
went on and got his own gigs, started his own

646
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:48.519
comedy clubs, and he always gave me work, whether paid

647
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.360
or unpaid. He'd always always get me on the stage

648
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:56.000
because he liked my act. He liked me as well,

649
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.519
but he liked my act. He thought it was funny.

650
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.440
The only person in London that thought I was funny.

651
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:04.840
But hey, at least one person did.

652
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:10.960
He A.

653
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.920
Robin asks, how do you like your beans on toast?

654
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:23.280
Traditional or with additional toppings? Hmm, I don't have beans

655
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:26.760
on toast very often, although I've just been going through

656
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.920
all the stuff that I've got storing up, and I've

657
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.079
got a load of dog food that I put into

658
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:40.400
two cupboards and some treats or one the dog foods

659
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.719
on one shelf, the treats on another shelf, and on

660
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.559
the other shelf of this cupboard is tins of baked beans.

661
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.679
So I have been thinking of beans just for that

662
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.719
period of time. But yeah, beans were definitely in my

663
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:59.360
mind at some point for a few seconds. Today. Tama

664
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:03.920
to catch is quite a nice little addition, I think

665
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:12.360
to beans on toast cheese is a nice addition. What

666
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:16.480
I used to do in the nineties, I used to

667
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:24.519
put the toast underneath the grill. Yeah, the toast underneath

668
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:29.679
the grill. And then I'd do cheese on toast, and

669
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:36.800
then I would heat up the beans, put some cheese

670
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:40.440
in with the beans as well, melted, and then pour

671
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:43.320
that on top of the beans on toast. The cheese.

672
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:49.239
So cheese on toast with beans. So bean on toast. Yeah,

673
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:53.840
cheese on toast with beans and cheese. So that's kind

674
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.719
of beans on toast, but with two lots of cheese.

675
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.760
Sometimes I would add something like some fish fingers, so

676
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.320
cheese on toast, fish fingers on top of the toast,

677
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:13.760
and then the beans with some cheese and maybe some

678
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:22.159
tomato ketchup on top and a pint of milk. And

679
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.280
that was something that i'd have fairly regularly, you know,

680
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:33.679
various different types of kind of that. It would be

681
00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:39.719
different things. Sometimes there'd be no fish fingers. Sometimes it

682
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:45.599
would be yes. Sometimes i'd do it with sweet corn,

683
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.559
So cheese on toast with fish fingers and then sweet

684
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:56.880
corn on top. Now I realized that's not answering the

685
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.000
question about how do I like my beans on toast,

686
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:03.159
because you didn't say sweet corn on toast, did you?

687
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:06.920
And sweet corn on toast might sound like a weird thing,

688
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:13.599
but actually if you've got some cheese and something else

689
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:18.559
on them as well. Sweet corn not not like a

690
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.840
big tube thing, you know how it's grown, but you know,

691
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:32.920
individual sweet on pieces mm hmm can be quite quite yummy.

692
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:41.599
I wouldn't go for brown sauce. Definitely tomato sauce if

693
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:45.280
I had to choose. Not really a big brown sauce

694
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:50.199
eater gives me a little bit of it's a little

695
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:53.719
bit too spicy, a little bit too oh for me.

696
00:56:56.440 --> 00:57:01.400
Hillary asks, can you listen to the song save My

697
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:11.960
jelly Roll and critique it? Not what I'm doing the podcast?

698
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:17.480
Is it your song? Hillary? I love I'll try to

699
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.000
have a little look at listen to it another time.

700
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:27.719
But maybe I'm just wondering what it's about now? Is

701
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:30.159
it a weird Let me just have a look. I'm

702
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:33.159
going what I'm going to do if I can. What's

703
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:36.920
it called save Me by jelly Roll? I'm going to

704
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:59.360
get the lyrics lyrics right? Song by jelly Roll twenty twenty.

705
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:06.000
Mh uh, all right. I thought it was going to

706
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:08.559
be a funny, I suppose jelly Roll. I thought it

707
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.800
was going to be like a funny song. But it's not,

708
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:12.199
is it.

709
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:16.199
Okay?

710
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:34.679
Okay, right, yeah, I'm just reading it through. I'm not

711
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:57.920
going to read it out loud, Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,

712
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:07.400
I'm reading the lyrics and the good lyrics. I've been

713
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:12.239
a little bit depressed now though, but thanks. It's a heavy,

714
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:17.199
heavy lyrics. I've not I've not heard the song, but yeah,

715
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:21.039
it's from the Looks, so it's quite a powerful song

716
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:26.039
and can relate to some of what I saw there.

717
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:31.800
I'll actually have a The thing is, sometimes I like

718
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:33.800
a song and I don't know what the lyrics are.

719
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.760
You know. I remember this one song years ago, the

720
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:44.679
late nineties, and I'll be singing it and I'll be

721
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:49.159
doing the washing up. So it's Christmas dinner. I'd be

722
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:52.159
like doing the washing up in the kitchen after dinner,

723
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.599
and my stepmom would be there putting stuff away, and

724
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.760
my sister would be put there putting stuff away in

725
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.880
the kitchen, and my dad would be like maybe getting

726
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.119
some stuff out of the fridge, and I'm I'm hard

727
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:08.639
dancing in doing a washing up, shouting like singing. Everybody

728
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:11.800
needs a boosom for a pillow, Everybody needs a bosom.

729
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.079
Everybody needs a bosom for a pillow. Everybody needs a

730
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:19.519
bosom burning forty five. And I didn't even realize what

731
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:21.760
they're looking at me, Like what do you mean everyone

732
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:26.920
needs a bosom for a pillow? And like, okay, I

733
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:31.239
wasn't realizing what I was actually singing. I just like

734
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:34.679
the tune. I liked the beat. I like the did

735
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:36.199
a do do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do

736
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:39.360
Do Do Do do do do did a do do do? Do?

737
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:41.559
You know? It could be it could it could be

738
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:46.159
saying anything wouldn't bother me. And I got this memory

739
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:53.159
and it still tickles me a little bit because and

740
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:56.960
this is about nineteen eighty four, I would say about

741
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:03.599
nineteen eighty four, Frankie Goes to Hollywood was the biggest

742
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:10.880
band possibly in the Western world at this time. They

743
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:14.000
and they were banned, they banned. They were a band

744
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:19.239
that was banned, and being banned put them to number one.

745
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.559
But it wasn't just that they were actually really good.

746
01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:28.079
Their songs, the songs that they like Relax, Two Tribes,

747
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:36.599
the Power of Love, and Beyond the thunder Dome was

748
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:42.239
that the other one. So there's four really really good songs,

749
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.280
really great songs that they did. I don't know what

750
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.880
else they did, but that's that's my memory of that. Wow,

751
01:01:53.079 --> 01:02:00.760
the song Relax. Bearing in mind it was banned, the

752
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.920
video was banned, the song was banned from radio one

753
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:11.639
so and also better. Mama's stepmom was only probably twenty

754
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:16.639
seven at the time, maybe twenty eight, so she wasn't old,

755
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:20.800
so I thought she'd be aware of what the song

756
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.400
was about. But I don't know she was, because she

757
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:27.400
was dancing to it in the kitchen and seeing the

758
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.559
words because they were playing it on I think it

759
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:38.320
was it was one of those illegal radio channels where

760
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.679
they had ships out in the sea and they used

761
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:44.480
to do used to call them pirate radios, so everyone

762
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.559
used to listen to them. It wasn't illegal to listen

763
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:49.400
to them. It's just illegal for the people to do

764
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:54.239
it because they were competing with channels that were paying

765
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.719
for licenses and stuff. I guess, like, I don't know who.

766
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:03.159
I just remember, so as you're dancing relax, don't do

767
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:07.599
it when you want it? I think, okay, And it

768
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:11.800
was weird like and then she like just when it

769
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:16.360
came to the when you wanna that that bit, and

770
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:18.400
I had to leave the room laughing because it's like

771
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:28.559
this is this is You're not are you No? I

772
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:30.960
don't want to see my mum dance into that song.

773
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:38.199
It's just weird. It was just very strange, but still

774
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:40.559
a great song, though it's not my favorite one out

775
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:44.320
of their songs. I think the power of love, the

776
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:51.159
power of love, of the power of love when you

777
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:55.840
want to cut man and then two Tribes didn't that

778
01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:59.679
get banned as well, And that was good. I mean that,

779
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:05.360
you know what, if anything, because they had the two

780
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:15.360
leaders of two particular countries settling their differences one on one,

781
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:21.840
man on man in the dirt with having like a

782
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:29.480
fistfight or wrestle or whatever. And I don't know, I

783
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:39.079
just always found that quite funny. So I'll have a

784
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:41.760
little listen to that song, Hillary, But the words, the

785
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:46.599
lyrics definitely got some powerful lyrics there. Hope asks me

786
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.159
top five favorite animals and why.

787
01:04:50.760 --> 01:05:01.360
Oh oh, okay, okay, top five animals and.

788
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:14.320
Why I'm gonna have to go with a dog and

789
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:19.960
a ferret because of Andre and Vinnie. So I can't

790
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:25.559
not go there. I can't go with them two before

791
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.880
I had either Andre already my favorite animal. I would

792
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:42.800
say it would be a penguin, and monkeys, little monkeys.

793
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:48.119
I love little monkeys. I just think they're funny. So yeah,

794
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:51.880
a little monkey, not chimpanzee that's going to get big

795
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:54.440
and strong, just the little ones that stay little the

796
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:58.239
whole time. Yeah, I like them. So that's that's four.

797
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:15.280
I like elephants because they seem to be very peaceful,

798
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:26.559
peaceful animals. Yeah, very peaceful. I like elephants. I mean,

799
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.760
they've got they've definitely got a reason to feel fairly safe,

800
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:35.199
haven't the because of how their size, and they really

801
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:38.679
as long as they stick together once they're adults, they

802
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:41.840
don't really have much in the way of prey. But

803
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:49.079
the I don't know. I just they just seem to

804
01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:56.960
be peaceful. Like wise, animals and whales as six. So top,

805
01:06:57.480 --> 01:07:05.920
my top one would have been a penguin. But then

806
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.159
probably you know, if you'd have asked me that question

807
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.800
three years ago, four years ago, I would have said

808
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:20.400
a ferret because I had hodnary. But you know, as

809
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:24.239
far as top favorite animals, the first one's got to

810
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:26.639
be little vinny. So let's say a little Jack Russell,

811
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:31.360
little doggie, no matter how annoying he is. At times

812
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:38.519
he's he's my little boy. Anything shut up, go away, no,

813
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:49.519
stop it. Yeah, that's it. I think I like peaceful animals.

814
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:55.079
I quite like foxes. I know they're not everyone's favorite

815
01:07:55.119 --> 01:08:00.119
cup of tea, but I saw a fox the very

816
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:04.440
first night I took well. I went to hospital with

817
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:10.639
uncle's sausages, and he was in the accident emergency, in

818
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:12.960
a bed, so he was already kind of in a

819
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.560
war down there, and the nurse told me that I

820
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.439
might as well go home because he wasn't going to

821
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:23.560
see a doctor or get anything. It had a scan,

822
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.800
but he wasn't going to get the results until the

823
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:31.000
next day. So this is on a Friday night, about

824
01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:34.640
seven weeks ago something like that. I lose track of

825
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:40.840
time now, maybe it was eight weeks ago and it

826
01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:44.960
was the end of May. It was the end of June. Yeah,

827
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:47.520
it was the end of June. We hadn't got into

828
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:55.439
July yet, I don't think. And so I left about

829
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:58.960
three o'clock three point thirty, ordered a taxi, and his

830
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.399
fox came out. I've actually got a video of it.

831
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.760
I did post it on Facebook, I think, and it

832
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:06.399
was just looking at me. So I gave him a

833
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:13.000
biscuit and he grabbed a biscuit and ran off. But

834
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:19.000
very yeah, just just it was surreal because the whole

835
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:24.319
event was surreal, going from just a normal day to

836
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:29.119
ambulance and going to hospital in the back of an

837
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:34.640
ambulance with him and all of the chaos of being

838
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:42.439
in that environment and then suddenly walking out and it

839
01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:47.239
was so peaceful. There was no one around at three

840
01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:49.680
o'clock in the morning. There was a policeman there and

841
01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:53.520
he was watching the fox as well. I didn't even

842
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.600
know who's there. I was like, I'm chucking. I'm chucking

843
01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:00.439
bits of biscuit and stuff on the floor, and I realized, hope,

844
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:04.319
I've not broken the law, and he said, it's fine,

845
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:09.920
just put your pants back on. And so it was

846
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:18.520
so peaceful though, so peaceful, really calm, and to see

847
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:23.279
this fox there. There's almost like no sound, very bright though,

848
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:31.960
because lights everywhere, very quiet, and I hadn't It's almost

849
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.640
I'd forgotten what it was like. I've forgotten what peace

850
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:38.880
was like for a little while because in the accident emergency,

851
01:10:39.680 --> 01:10:43.640
it's so noisy because it's i mean, there's lits like

852
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:47.800
thirty nurses and doctors all rushing around and like it's

853
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:58.079
very busy. It was weird, how calm it was. Mary

854
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.600
asked me, do you think now that Luke and your

855
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:05.720
and uncle sausages are passed, that you'll move? You said

856
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:07.920
often you'd like to, And I was wondering if you'd

857
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:12.680
go to a for a house exchange closer to the

858
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:17.479
facilities of a town or near your dad ps. Your

859
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:19.560
dad must have really loved you in your brothers, as

860
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:21.720
he never gave up until he got you all back home.

861
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:26.640
I read that actually before that was that maybe tingle

862
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:32.039
a little bit with emotion, because yeah, I didn't appreciate it.

863
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:39.159
I probably did appreciative. To be fair, I probably didn't

864
01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:42.039
appreciate what he did when I was an older kid

865
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.520
and in my twenties, maybe in my thirties, maybe even

866
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:51.119
in my forties. But at the time when he was

867
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:54.439
coming and taking us back, taking us away from there,

868
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:56.720
and when he eventually took us away from there for good.

869
01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:00.640
No one in the world can tell me that I

870
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:05.960
did not appreciate what he and my new mum had done.

871
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:10.279
Because I did. I might not have told him that

872
01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:13.560
I appreciated it. I probably didn't know how to express

873
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:16.680
that in the correct way could bear in my mind,

874
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.239
I was seven years old, but I did appreciate it,

875
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:25.119
and maybe I haven't appreciated it in a way I have.

876
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:28.479
I thanked him, by the way I have more recently

877
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.000
the last year or so, I thanked him, so, thank

878
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:36.600
you for saving me from the children's time. But he's

879
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:41.359
so he won't get into emotional conversations, so he won't.

880
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:48.359
He's like, Okay, not my son. You know it's but

881
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:50.560
I know he's heard. Well, I hope he's heard me,

882
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:56.119
and I do appreciate it because in reality, no matter

883
01:12:56.119 --> 01:13:01.399
how badly I've done as a human generally in my life,

884
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:04.000
I think it would have been a lot worse if

885
01:13:04.039 --> 01:13:07.520
I'd been left in the children so till the age

886
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:11.800
of being eighteen, I don't think, Yeah, I don't think

887
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:17.319
i'd have even though I hadn't been successful and whatever.

888
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:21.800
I think there's nothing wrong with being in the children's

889
01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:24.960
home two eighteen. By the way, I'm just talking from

890
01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:32.640
my own personal experience. How at times really badly I've

891
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:38.399
done in life, and I think if I hadn't had

892
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:46.680
at least some stability, then I don't know what I

893
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:49.079
would if I'd even be here to be honest without

894
01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:55.119
being dramatic. But even though it wasn't always great living there,

895
01:13:55.479 --> 01:14:00.000
you know, my family life between ages seven and fifteen,

896
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:05.239
there's still some stability. There was still the same people

897
01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:09.600
in the same house for years, so that that's stable.

898
01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:13.279
And it wasn't like super chaotic or anything like that.

899
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:16.000
The way I was growing brought up when I was

900
01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.239
like between two and five or two and four whatever,

901
01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:28.399
two and five, probably that was chaos. This wasn't. So yeah,

902
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:32.840
it didn't. It didn't prepare me for life as an adult,

903
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:36.680
But then how do you prepare for that. I don't know.

904
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:43.640
I didn't know that I had what I had. I

905
01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:45.119
didn't know what you know that I had, what was

906
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:47.880
ever going on going on inside and stuff I hadn't

907
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:53.640
dealt with, And so, yeah, but I do appreciate my dad.

908
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:58.800
I started to appreciate my brothers more as well, even

909
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.800
though I'm never gonna I told them unless they're listening

910
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:06.279
to this, Like my oldest brother, for it's only recently

911
01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:09.920
really that I've kind of realized that he looked after

912
01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:13.279
me and my other brother. He was in charge of us.

913
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:18.159
He looked after us for days, days on end sometimes,

914
01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:24.319
and he was a little kid himself. You know, I'll

915
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:29.920
be four years old. He was only eight years old,

916
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:37.279
so and also my other brother. All the stuff that's happened,

917
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.920
there's a reason for that, you know, there's a reason

918
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:54.359
for what happened later in life. So yeah, it's I

919
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:56.880
just say, if I could, you know, the only if

920
01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:01.680
I could just have not be taken away from London

921
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:04.640
when I was two, I think i'd been all right,

922
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.960
that's the thing. It's just that period between two and seven.

923
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:15.279
But yeah, it's got heavy quick, didn't it. I move

924
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:28.800
on from that. I don't know about moving anymore. I

925
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:33.880
really don't know. I'd like to. I got this is

926
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:39.199
a base, this is somewhere i'd like to perhaps start traveling,

927
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:42.720
not now, but like in the future. Although I don't

928
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:45.640
want to leave everything off to the future, because the

929
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:49.359
future doesn't always happen, does it if you keep putting

930
01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:52.720
it off. But I would like to travel, would like

931
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:56.560
to not just abroad, but you know, in this country,

932
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:02.600
get around a little bit, maybe go on tour, do

933
01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:08.880
my let me boy to sleep on tour. I don't know,

934
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:14.319
get a little mini bus. So I'm not sure. I

935
01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:18.000
don't about moving closer to my dad. There will be

936
01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:21.520
a time when I probably want to do that, and

937
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:25.199
I hope there isn't, but I've got a feeling because

938
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:32.600
of his age and he's I do sometimes wish I

939
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.479
lived a bit closer, because then I could just pop

940
01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:38.319
around and see him, have a cup of tea, see

941
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:42.640
how he is, and you know, pop round Christmas Day

942
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:47.960
well basically get free food, really get some dinners and stuff,

943
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:54.199
and then that would be handy. But it didn't, just

944
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:56.399
didn't work out that way. I ended up moving to

945
01:17:57.279 --> 01:18:00.359
you know here. I've been there for ten and a

946
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:07.880
half years now, nearly April May June July August, ten

947
01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.920
years and four months. Julie asks me, do you have

948
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:16.039
any tips for dealing with depression? I might, Actually I might.

949
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:19.600
I quite like to. I don't know why. I thought back.

950
01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:27.600
Maybe moving to Scotland on maybe Wales or I don't

951
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:32.439
know why. Just somewhere near the beach would be nice.

952
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:36.159
That'd be quite a nice place to retire because this

953
01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:41.760
is so far out of the way anyway, Do you

954
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:53.760
have any tips for dealing with depression? Julie, Wow, boom,

955
01:18:54.159 --> 01:19:03.960
seek medical help. I would say so, and I'm not

956
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:07.880
just saying that as a kind of dismissive way of

957
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:12.640
saying that I'm not at all is I had depression

958
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:18.039
for years and years and years and years, never told anyone, never.

959
01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:20.680
I didn't even know that there was help out there.

960
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:25.319
I didn't know that really things like medication, you know,

961
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:28.159
or I just put up with it. And I'd had

962
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:30.760
it since I was a kid, since I was a kid.

963
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:35.359
I was up and down all over the place, since

964
01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:39.279
I was like a child. And it's only when I

965
01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:44.640
was twenty five, after being ill for about seven to

966
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:50.680
eight months with stomach problems which I'm guessing now would

967
01:19:50.720 --> 01:20:00.000
probably be called pet And what's it called stomach stress? Oh,

968
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:03.439
I don't know. I forget it was called, but I

969
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:07.800
possibly had that. But I got tested for loads of

970
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:10.039
different things, and I was twenty four, not twenty five,

971
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:15.680
twenty four, and ultimately the doctor said to me, it's stress,

972
01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:20.399
put me on antidepressants, and within a short time, all

973
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:26.640
the problems left, or of the physical ailments left, and

974
01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:34.079
I couldn't believe it. And it had a change. It changed.

975
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:36.840
I put weight on, put half a stone on, which

976
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:47.319
was needed, and I just felt different. So I didn't

977
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:53.119
get any counseling. But then I was back on antidepressants

978
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:57.920
ninety seven, so it's ninety five ninety seven. I was

979
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:06.680
back on them, and I did get I got counseling

980
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:10.319
for the first time, and then you know, I was

981
01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:14.279
on and off them for years until I was finally

982
01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:21.319
diagnosed with bipolar in two thousand and ten December, when

983
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:31.319
I was forty twenty eleven December, so I was forty one,

984
01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:45.239
forty one years old. And so, yeah, speak to someone

985
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:48.319
if you're going through a depression, because it's I think

986
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:54.760
there's different types. When you've got brief bereavement, I know

987
01:21:54.880 --> 01:21:58.920
it's some would say that's not depression, but it is.

988
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:03.720
But it's it's almost it's for a reason, because a

989
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:08.479
lot of depression can sometimes feel there's no there's no

990
01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:12.920
reason for it, you know. I mean I've been in

991
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.279
the past, and now this is getting quite serious, but

992
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:19.079
in the past, I've been in the most amazing environments

993
01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:24.439
and I felt like I couldn't have felt worse if

994
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:28.000
I was at a funeral and I didn't know why.

995
01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:33.159
There was no reason for me, no obvious reason for

996
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:47.079
me to feel that way. And it's yeah, so but

997
01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:52.840
then there's sometimes there's an obvious reason you know if

998
01:22:53.119 --> 01:22:55.760
there was a period in my time in ninety seven, Well,

999
01:22:55.760 --> 01:23:00.000
I lost my job, my girlfriend and I couldn't have

1000
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:02.760
to pay the rent, didn't have enough money for food,

1001
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:06.079
like all at the same time, within like about a

1002
01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:11.920
month of each other. Yeah, I was depressed, and kind

1003
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:18.279
of what else would I be in that situation without

1004
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:24.039
the coping mechanisms or any kind of safety net, anyone

1005
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:31.000
to help me or asking for help. So yeah, it's

1006
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:35.399
ask for help. That's my thing. That's my tips. Ask

1007
01:23:35.439 --> 01:23:39.279
for help. If you're dealing with depression. Now, I don't know, Julie,

1008
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:45.560
if you're coming from a perspective of someone that's got depression,

1009
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:50.520
that hasn't been diagnosed with depression, that's not on medication,

1010
01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:59.399
or someone that's going through it regularly, that has medication

1011
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.720
and just sort of has it regularly and on and

1012
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:07.640
off and stuff. See, I have it, but it's part

1013
01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:12.479
of the bipolar so it's kind of it's not all

1014
01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:14.800
the time. When it hits, it's hard, but it's not

1015
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:21.119
all the time, thankfully. When I've had like months and

1016
01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:24.159
months and months of it when I was younger, but

1017
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:29.760
I'm on medication, and so I've had depression separate from

1018
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:36.359
the bipolar and yeah, so all kinds of things and

1019
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:40.439
PTSD I was diagnosed with in two thousand and three,

1020
01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:47.720
Like would you talk about PTSD? Like, how can something

1021
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:52.119
affect me? I'm thirty two years old? How can I

1022
01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:56.000
be affected by something that happened when I was four?

1023
01:24:57.319 --> 01:25:02.439
And I really didn't get it. I didn't understand how

1024
01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:07.279
something traumatic happening all that time ago could affect me

1025
01:25:07.479 --> 01:25:13.800
as an adult. It didn't make sense to me. But yeah,

1026
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:20.479
so I would say, seek help, ask for help if

1027
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:26.279
you'd need it, talk to someone you know, even if

1028
01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:31.199
it's even you know, the Samaritans. There's phone lines probably

1029
01:25:31.279 --> 01:25:34.520
in most I don't know, let's say western countries anyway,

1030
01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:39.560
I don't know about other countries, but probably in most European,

1031
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:47.880
probably America, Canada, Australia, the UK, there's like things like

1032
01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:51.720
Samaritans that you can phone up and just talk about

1033
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:55.319
what's going on, or if you have a friend or

1034
01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:59.760
a family member that you can just be honest with

1035
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:10.039
someone that you can just hopefully someone that will listen

1036
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:15.119
without judging. And sometimes you'll need for someone to do that.

1037
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:18.720
It will need to be a stranger, it might need

1038
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:21.560
to be because not everyone's got that as like a

1039
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:33.960
person in their life. So and also probably don't go

1040
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:36.640
and talk to someone that wants to talk about themselves

1041
01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:42.840
because it's not really a conversation. So if you if

1042
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:44.640
you've got someone that wants to just have a normal

1043
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:51.800
conversation and telling them your problems, I'm not saying don't,

1044
01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:55.880
but sometimes telling those kinds of people your problems, they're

1045
01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:59.880
they're just waiting to talk about their own stuff, and

1046
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:04.960
that's not always helpful. So if you've got a friend

1047
01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:13.159
that you can trust and maybe ask them, is that

1048
01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:16.199
okay if I just talked to you about what's going

1049
01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:22.520
on with me, So it kind of maybe ask permission,

1050
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:27.079
not in a kind of in a nice way. He

1051
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:30.720
had a very loose and gentle way, just to make

1052
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:35.479
sure that they're in the right space. Because I remember

1053
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:41.000
when Luke before he went, he was in a bad

1054
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:47.359
way before he left us, very bad way, and he

1055
01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:50.439
phoned up he told me he came up here, and

1056
01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:54.199
he told me he phoned up two of his closest

1057
01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:58.079
people that he would talk to on the phone. So

1058
01:27:58.159 --> 01:27:59.600
he wouldn't talk to me on the phone. He just

1059
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:01.800
come up because I was down. He was downstairs. I

1060
01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:06.479
was up here, and both of those people said to

1061
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:09.760
the same thing to him that they couldn't they could

1062
01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:11.840
listen to him going on because they had their own

1063
01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:18.039
problems to deal with. Two different people that I know

1064
01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:21.159
he was very close to, and he didn't see them

1065
01:28:21.239 --> 01:28:22.720
very often, but he used to talk to him on

1066
01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:27.399
the phone quite a lot, and at this point he

1067
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:31.920
wasn't He wasn't being particularly pleasant either with it, so

1068
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.800
it was hard to listen to what he was saying

1069
01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:40.880
because he wasn't always being nice. This it's a very

1070
01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:48.199
difficult situation. If you've got someone that you can trust,

1071
01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:52.479
talk to them. If you haven't, then talked to a stranger,

1072
01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:56.680
make use of the mental health services that are around.

1073
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:06.600
What you could do is make a recording or write

1074
01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:11.920
down how you're feeling now. Years ago, I had a

1075
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:15.840
bit of a an episode. This was in ninety seven

1076
01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:21.199
when all this stuff was happening, and I lost it,

1077
01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:28.880
like in a big way, completely lost, and it was

1078
01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:35.079
kind of I was on the verge of it was

1079
01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:39.399
just I don't know, it was really weird. But what

1080
01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:44.359
I did is I wrote letters to three different people,

1081
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:50.439
and I wrote and I wrote, and I wrote, and

1082
01:29:50.479 --> 01:29:56.199
I wrote everything that I felt, and once i'd done that,

1083
01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:04.159
I actually did feel some relief. Now I kind of

1084
01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:07.000
knew about this. I must have seen it in a

1085
01:30:07.079 --> 01:30:15.399
book somewhere along the way. Yeah, I don't know where.

1086
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:19.439
Maybe I saw it on TV. But you know, Bat,

1087
01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:21.920
this is ninety seven, This is long before I wasn't

1088
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:31.079
doing hypnosis or NLP, hadn't really even any interesting you know, counseling.

1089
01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:33.720
Never had counseling at that point. That was a few

1090
01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:41.880
months later. But it definitely helped writing down how I felt.

1091
01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:45.199
But what is is you don't write to them the

1092
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:48.319
way you would talk to them to their face. You

1093
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:53.640
write down everything that you want to say, that you

1094
01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:59.079
want to express, no matter how horrible it is, because

1095
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:01.560
you don't send it to them. You don't send the

1096
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.960
letter to the person. You don't keep that letter, you

1097
01:31:05.119 --> 01:31:10.479
destroy it, you get rid of it. But you've allowed

1098
01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:17.079
yourself to express it. And that's what I did, and

1099
01:31:17.119 --> 01:31:25.720
I found it useful. Another thing I did when there

1100
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:32.840
was a family, real big family thing that happened that summer,

1101
01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:37.119
and I spent probably about three or four or five

1102
01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:42.239
days all day just writing in the pad. I got

1103
01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:46.239
through a couple of pads for you know, just talked

1104
01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:50.600
about what I was feeling. Not all day was I

1105
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:52.600
doing it, but I did. You spend quite a few

1106
01:31:52.640 --> 01:31:56.560
hours during the day and in the garden just writing

1107
01:31:56.640 --> 01:32:02.319
down how I was feeling, and I did find that

1108
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:10.239
that helped as well. Now, in the past, I've made

1109
01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:15.159
videos and made podcasts where I've talked about how I felt,

1110
01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:22.520
and sometimes that can also help. I've also made podcasts

1111
01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:26.600
that I've never released where I've really gone in depth

1112
01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:30.239
about how I'm feeling, and then I end up deleting

1113
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:35.960
them because it was not suitable, not allowed. It was

1114
01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:38.319
in no way I was not going to be putting

1115
01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:41.600
that on there. So there's a few ways that I

1116
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.239
would say to deal with it, to deal with depression,

1117
01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:47.680
but the most important thing is that you're gentle with

1118
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:52.720
yourself and you don't give yourself a hard time, and

1119
01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:57.479
there's no right or wrong, there's no rules. Really, we're

1120
01:32:57.520 --> 01:33:03.199
all different. And just remember that there are people out

1121
01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:09.279
there that care. So you know it's a cliche, You're

1122
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:12.439
not the only one, not the only one going through that.

1123
01:33:12.520 --> 01:33:15.720
Loads of other people, millions of other people are also

1124
01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:22.960
going through their own journey of depression, whether short term

1125
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:30.960
or otherwise, and there's so many people out there that

1126
01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:41.960
do care. So I definitely would say seek professional medical help.

1127
01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:50.359
Speak to your doctor, whoever the medical professional is in

1128
01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:55.039
your country, wherever you live, and you just find someone,

1129
01:33:55.640 --> 01:34:04.079
ask for therapy, ask to ask for help. There's no

1130
01:34:04.319 --> 01:34:12.520
harm in asking for help, and talking to someone about

1131
01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:18.800
how you're feeling can really help. I've been on both

1132
01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:22.239
sides of the sofa, as it were, for this one.

1133
01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:28.960
I've been. I've done hundreds of hours as a patient

1134
01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:37.119
in therapy, counseling, psychotherapy, you name it. I've done lots

1135
01:34:37.119 --> 01:34:42.119
and lots of lots of hours. I mean even when

1136
01:34:42.159 --> 01:34:45.720
I was counseling at college. When I first started, I

1137
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:50.279
had to have twenty hours of personal counseling as part

1138
01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:55.039
of my college course just outside. I pay for it

1139
01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:58.479
twenty hours, and I had to have this signed off

1140
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:02.039
by the counselor to prove that I'd had those hours.

1141
01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:04.239
And I had to do that. I was part of

1142
01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:07.960
the contract of doing the degree and to become a

1143
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:16.159
counselor myself. Well, I knew someone on the course and

1144
01:35:16.199 --> 01:35:20.560
they did that. It might be ten hours, might note

1145
01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:22.279
it might not been twenty. It might have been ten

1146
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:25.560
someone on the course that actually said that they did it,

1147
01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:29.159
and they just made up a character. They didn't even

1148
01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:32.279
talk about themselves in counseling. They just made up a character.

1149
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.119
And I thought, what is the point in that you

1150
01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:44.720
can't even be yourself when you're paying someone to be

1151
01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:48.640
a counselor, you know they're professional counselor, you're paying them

1152
01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:53.600
twenty thirty pounds an hour whatever, and you put on

1153
01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:59.600
a character just because you don't want to open yourself up. Yeah,

1154
01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:03.560
you want to be a counselor, like wow, But yeah,

1155
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:06.880
it's that. I found that. I'm not sure if it's true,

1156
01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:11.279
but I found it very unusual. But what I did

1157
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:19.439
is I spent two whole years, maybe longer with this counselor.

1158
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:28.520
So I had probably one hundred yeah, actually probably one hundred,

1159
01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:32.680
maybe one hundred and fifty over one hundred sessions. So

1160
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:35.560
I did at least two years, you know, once a week,

1161
01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:42.119
every week, every Friday. And I think she retired or

1162
01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:47.199
she moved away, something like that. She just couldn't stand

1163
01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:51.159
me any longer. She had to move to early retirement.

1164
01:36:54.239 --> 01:37:01.199
So yeah, ask for help, keep going on. But yeah,

1165
01:37:01.199 --> 01:37:07.079
that's pretty much well cover well cover Rob. I've also,

1166
01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:09.800
as I said, I've been a client of been a patient.

1167
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:14.399
I've also been a counselor for what four and a

1168
01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:19.680
half years or so that I did it, so I

1169
01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:28.399
can see the benefit of talking to a stranger and

1170
01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:35.079
the benefit of being that stranger. Yeah. So Karen asks

1171
01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:38.600
me Hi Jason questions for Friday. Do you believe in

1172
01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:41.520
ghosts and have you seen one? And do you think

1173
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:45.640
aliens in UFOs are time travelers from the future rather

1174
01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:50.079
than extraterrestrial beings. Love the show, by the way, Thank you, Karen.

1175
01:37:56.720 --> 01:38:00.800
The thing is, I don't not believe even anything. You know.

1176
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:05.920
I'm kind of very open minded. You know. I've never

1177
01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:11.319
seen a ghost that I know of. I kind of

1178
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:14.199
it's weird. I kind of don't care if they exist

1179
01:38:14.319 --> 01:38:19.399
or not. Not in a like harsh way, but I'm

1180
01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:22.640
open to it, like great if they do brilliant. If

1181
01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:28.880
they don't brilliant, it's fine. I've never seen a ghost.

1182
01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:37.920
But I also know that the brain can produce hallucinations

1183
01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:44.720
so that people sometimes see things that aren't there. I'm

1184
01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:48.199
not talking about serious mental honess. If I just the

1185
01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:52.840
general person might have a you know, a false hallucination

1186
01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:59.359
sometimes in life, whether it's due to stress or grief

1187
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:06.079
or fear or whatever. So I don't know, and I've

1188
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:09.560
never seen one. As far as aliens in UFOs, I

1189
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:13.960
think that's kind of almost the opposite, although I will

1190
01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.000
say with ghosts, it's an energy, isn't it. It's like

1191
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:21.960
an energy we can't see now we know now we

1192
01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:25.239
didn't by say we you know, as humans, we are

1193
01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:32.640
surrounded by invisible energy. That's how radio signals work, isn't it.

1194
01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:38.279
I mean, it's phenomenal that that was ever found and

1195
01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:46.279
created that you can transmit a voice talk to someone

1196
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:56.520
through the air just by using you know, invisible energy signals.

1197
01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:07.159
So we're surrounded by energy, So who knows what's what

1198
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:11.239
we can't see because we can't. Most of the stuff

1199
01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:15.119
in the world we can't see, you know, Whenever there's

1200
01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:20.800
a gap, there's billions upon billions and billions of particles

1201
01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:25.680
between me and the wall on the other side of

1202
01:40:25.760 --> 01:40:30.279
the room. That gap between me sitting on the sofa

1203
01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:34.600
and that wall, trillions upon trillions and trillions probably of

1204
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.720
particles that are invisible to me, but they are there.

1205
01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:46.159
So it's kind of yeah, I don't know. The ghosts.

1206
01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:51.319
I mean, who knows, maybe we're the ghosts. Do you

1207
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:57.319
think aliens and UFOs so? I think? I mean, I'd

1208
01:40:57.319 --> 01:41:00.039
love to say this with some kind of originality, but

1209
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:06.119
it's pretty much impossible to be original with this. It

1210
01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:12.359
seems absurd to think that if the universe really is

1211
01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:20.600
almost infinite and there's billions and billions of planets, that

1212
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:28.439
we would be the only one with life, this kind

1213
01:41:28.439 --> 01:41:34.239
of life, you know, intelligent life. Shall we say so? Yeah?

1214
01:41:34.399 --> 01:41:41.800
I would. I'd both say I reckon there are other

1215
01:41:41.920 --> 01:41:47.560
beings out there, and I also hope there are. I

1216
01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:50.800
really hope they are. I think that would be so exciting,

1217
01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:55.800
and I hope to see it in my life. I

1218
01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:58.920
don't want an alien invasion or nothing like that. I

1219
01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:02.039
don't want, like independent didn't stay to happen, but i'd

1220
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:06.319
love to see just I don't know. I think it's

1221
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:13.039
just it's amazing, it's exciting, and yeah, I think it'd

1222
01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:16.800
be brilliant time traveling. Yeah, I don't know.

1223
01:42:18.640 --> 01:42:24.600
I mean I sometimes think.

1224
01:42:24.079 --> 01:42:28.600
I reckon, we're all aliens just landed on this planet.

1225
01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:36.159
Can you hear that motorbike? Bless him? Or is he

1226
01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:42.119
driving off? Oh? He's a good little bunny. He's driving off.

1227
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:56.479
Thank you bye, Save travels. I think I'd like to

1228
01:42:56.520 --> 01:42:59.560
be a time traveler, but technically we're all time travelers,

1229
01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:08.840
aren't we or traveling through time together? I'd like to, Yeah,

1230
01:43:09.119 --> 01:43:13.640
I reckon. I'm just I think that the human erace,

1231
01:43:15.159 --> 01:43:19.439
there's so many differences between the different parts of the

1232
01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:26.199
world and between people. I reckon we're all aliens orses

1233
01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:31.800
from different different planets, which is maybe why people just

1234
01:43:32.319 --> 01:43:37.479
can't get on. Maybe sometimes they have such different viewpoints

1235
01:43:37.479 --> 01:43:43.199
and such different mentalities, different ways of thinking, and maybe

1236
01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:51.720
that's that's the planet thing, you don't idea. Maybe people

1237
01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:56.640
from Jupiter can't get on with bars men for Venus,

1238
01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:02.680
women are from Mars or whatever it was, And maybe

1239
01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:06.039
it's that, you know, we can get on to a degree.

1240
01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:12.479
Maybe maybe it's very difficult. I don't know. I just

1241
01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:17.039
I hope that there are aliens. It's just it's going

1242
01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:22.279
to be even more harder now because of AI. There's

1243
01:44:22.439 --> 01:44:26.359
so much absolute I don't know what the right word

1244
01:44:26.359 --> 01:44:33.039
would be. I've noticed it more. I'm not I don't

1245
01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:36.159
even like being on Facebook anymore, like the normal kind

1246
01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:40.920
of I like my little group, but there's so much

1247
01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:47.680
rubbish coming onto Facebook, which is just made up. It's

1248
01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:52.319
all AI pictures of people together that have never even

1249
01:44:52.399 --> 01:44:59.600
met each others, just getting And the thing is, I

1250
01:44:59.640 --> 01:45:02.079
can how old that those ones are lies because I

1251
01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:07.439
know the facts I know. But that's probably only not

1252
01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:12.840
even a tiny zero point zero points zero points zero

1253
01:45:13.399 --> 01:45:18.720
one percent, not even that of how much stuff is

1254
01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:24.600
on Facebook that I don't know is made up? And

1255
01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:27.800
how much of that is going into my brain turn

1256
01:45:27.880 --> 01:45:34.760
itself into facts when it isn't facts. So yeah, I

1257
01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:41.079
do find it weird though, all those years non stop

1258
01:45:41.399 --> 01:45:48.720
UFO sightings on camera, but as soon as everyone in

1259
01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:54.359
the world has mobile phone cameras on their phones, we

1260
01:45:54.479 --> 01:46:00.800
get hardly any sightings of actual UFOs compared to how

1261
01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:07.439
we used to, or of Bigfoot or the Lockness Monster,

1262
01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:16.920
the yetty. So yeah, Rich asks did you go to

1263
01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:20.319
school university for hypnosis or as all your learnings come

1264
01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:23.359
from reading books, self taught a bit, a bit, a

1265
01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:29.159
bit bit of both. I did. I've been self taught,

1266
01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:32.520
and I also did hypnosis courses, so it's a mixture

1267
01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:41.760
mixture of things. Also, I would say most learnings has

1268
01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:49.119
come from doing it. So nineteen years of doing it

1269
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:54.840
I've been. I started off doing it with people face

1270
01:46:54.920 --> 01:47:01.840
to face. I used to do a stop Yeah, free

1271
01:47:01.880 --> 01:47:04.720
pain release service I used to have, and I'd see

1272
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:08.359
people face to face and help them with their chronic pain.

1273
01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:10.960
And then I kind of people started asking me for

1274
01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:15.520
more things like stop, certain things that they wanted me

1275
01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:18.399
to help with, and I'd help them with that. But

1276
01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:22.720
I was aiming at stop to keep sat and stopped,

1277
01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:27.800
and I to reduce chronic pain. That was what I

1278
01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:32.039
was sort of aiming at. And then I started doing

1279
01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:39.479
the group relaxation sessions at and Alcohol and Drug Charity,

1280
01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:44.039
and then I was kind of headhunted.

1281
01:47:43.479 --> 01:47:48.920
For a drug rehab place because they'd heard that I

1282
01:47:49.039 --> 01:47:51.800
was doing what I was doing at the alcohol place

1283
01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:53.800
and they asked me if i'd do it there, So

1284
01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:57.840
I did, And so I did that for about a

1285
01:47:57.960 --> 01:47:59.000
year and a half.

1286
01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:02.159
Of those two places, or till the end of November.

1287
01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:09.439
Till November two thousand and seven. I started in two

1288
01:48:09.439 --> 01:48:14.439
thousand and six. Two yeah. So I had experiencing groups,

1289
01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:18.479
had experienced one on one, and then I had experience

1290
01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:28.000
of actually making recordings, as you know, on recordings like

1291
01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:33.920
this making sometimes it would be live, sometimes online on

1292
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:37.600
Facebook or YouTube brother, and most of the time it'd

1293
01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:44.079
just be a recording. I started off releasing on my podcast.

1294
01:48:44.199 --> 01:48:48.760
I'd release the live recordings from the group sessions I did.

1295
01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:54.840
That's how I kind of started off because they were

1296
01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:57.920
asking me. They're saying, well, once a week isn't enough.

1297
01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:00.520
We want to be able to hear you more often.

1298
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:03.800
So I thought, well, first of all, we did CDs,

1299
01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:07.600
but then it was getting expensive for the charities, so

1300
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:11.479
I just stuck on more website and it kind of

1301
01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:17.560
grew from there really. But the first time I went

1302
01:49:17.600 --> 01:49:22.199
to my first course in hypnosis was at City University

1303
01:49:22.880 --> 01:49:26.840
back in nineteen ninety eight, and it was an NLP

1304
01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:33.720
course three parts, one part per term, and it also

1305
01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:38.680
included hypnosis. Then I was buying books from then onwards

1306
01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:45.720
and reading them, and then I started doing courses again

1307
01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:52.319
two thousand and two in hypnosis, and yeah, I just

1308
01:49:52.479 --> 01:50:00.159
kept going. Did another course two thousand and five. It

1309
01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:02.079
wasn't just books that I was reading. I was also

1310
01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:08.960
had DVDs, tapes, audio recordings of trainings. There was a

1311
01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:12.359
time I had loads of stuff, you know, before I

1312
01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:20.279
moved away from when I was still working, before I

1313
01:50:20.279 --> 01:50:24.840
went to university. I mean, I had an amazing collection

1314
01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:33.640
of stuff, just so much stuff hypnosis related, so honestly

1315
01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:40.159
it was just yeah, but that was that was what

1316
01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:47.279
ninety eight to two, So it's nine years worth of

1317
01:50:47.479 --> 01:50:52.079
collection that was to get all that stuff. I don't

1318
01:50:52.119 --> 01:50:57.520
have it all anymore. I've got some books, But my

1319
01:50:57.720 --> 01:51:04.600
interest in hypnosis has, like traditional hypnosis has reduced a lot.

1320
01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:10.239
And I enjoyed doing the let Me Boy to Sleep

1321
01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:16.720
because it's a mixture of different things and if it

1322
01:51:16.920 --> 01:51:21.560
helps people to fall asleep, then that's a good thing

1323
01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:26.000
because that can really or to relax. It can help

1324
01:51:26.039 --> 01:51:34.399
me to relax, then it can have such an amazing,

1325
01:51:35.039 --> 01:51:41.079
amazingly positive effect on your life without me sort of

1326
01:51:42.079 --> 01:51:46.880
doing some kind of trancy stuff and talking, you know,

1327
01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:52.840
like that, I can just be me. I've got slow

1328
01:51:52.920 --> 01:52:02.399
voice anyway, naturally probably monotonous, I don't know. And yeah,

1329
01:52:02.479 --> 01:52:12.520
so this suits me better than yeah, it suits me

1330
01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:18.760
better than the hypnosis stuff. And for some reason, I

1331
01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:23.000
don't really know why, but to let Me Boy the

1332
01:52:23.079 --> 01:52:27.479
Sleep seems to be a bit more popular than the

1333
01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:35.279
hypnosis stuff I do, so I think, yeah, I'm thinking

1334
01:52:35.439 --> 01:52:48.600
more of just focusing on this moving forward because there's

1335
01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:51.680
no one. The thing is with the hypnosis, it's loads

1336
01:52:51.720 --> 01:52:55.279
of people you can listen to hypnosis for. And I

1337
01:52:55.319 --> 01:52:58.239
know we're a different in the sense of like voice,

1338
01:52:58.279 --> 01:53:04.359
and different in the sense of techniques and strategy and

1339
01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:12.840
the way things are done. But no one does what

1340
01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:18.119
I do. Here people do. Maybe I don't do what

1341
01:53:18.159 --> 01:53:20.720
they do either, but everyone does their own thing. But

1342
01:53:20.840 --> 01:53:25.960
this is I've not really heard anyone else do this

1343
01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:31.720
type of podcast that let me boy to sleep. I mean,

1344
01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:34.800
there is a podcast called Board to Sleep or Bought

1345
01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:41.359
Me to Sleep or something, but it's not this. And

1346
01:53:42.840 --> 01:53:47.760
there's no I'm not putting anything on. I'm not putting

1347
01:53:47.800 --> 01:53:51.439
on you know, a super slow voice. It's just me.

1348
01:53:52.279 --> 01:54:00.960
This is how I talk. And yeah, it's kind of real.

1349
01:54:01.119 --> 01:54:10.520
I suppose, I suppose, I don't know. Maybe, but that,

1350
01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:16.279
ladies and gentlemen, I do believe is everything, all the

1351
01:54:16.359 --> 01:54:21.479
questions answered. I hope you've got to hear the questions,

1352
01:54:22.359 --> 01:54:27.319
all the answers. So thank you for listening. Remember to

1353
01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:32.600
be kind to yourself because you do deserve to be happy,

1354
01:54:34.119 --> 01:54:39.359
and remember to be gentle with yourself. You deserve to

1355
01:54:39.399 --> 01:54:45.960
feel safe. Lots of love. Bye,