July 6, 2025

(no music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1388 | Jason Newland | 6th July 2025

(no music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1388 | Jason Newland | 6th July 2025
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Hello, welcome to Jason new Land dot com. My name's

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Jason Newland and Vinnie's just jumped onto the chair, on

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to the chair. I woke it up. Oh my back's hurting. Oh,

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I woke up early today. It's very late doing my

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Q and a Friday very late. This is the latest

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I think I've ever done one, and I've done one

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on a Saturday before, but yeah, this is never done

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one on a Sunday Sunday morning. And yeah, please only

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listen when you can safely close your eyes. I'm tired.

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I'm not actually tired, tired, but just I need to

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do some exercise on my back today because the muscles

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in my upper back are just aching, which they have

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been for the last couple of weeks. I go through

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periods with that. It might be due to tension, to

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be honest, but I'll get this sorted. Moaning. I sorry,

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I gotta stop mining. Oh what purposely and not going

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to talk about I've course sausages today. Who is my

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neighbor that's in hospital. I'm not going to talk about

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him during this recording. I will possibly later on to

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a Sunday summary where I'll talk about the week. Then

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I will talk about him, but not in this recording.

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I can't. I don't want to talk about that anymore.

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So what I need to do is look for the questions.

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Where are the questions? So I've only just got up.

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I've been awake for about ten minutes, so I'm just

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I'm not quite with it yet. Oh okay, okay, So

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I've got one, two, three, four, five questions. One from Hope,

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one from Michelle, one from Cara, one from Rich and

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one from Temmy. Also, I do want to just say

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a big thank you for everyone that sent birthday wishes

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to alex Or. I call him well, Vinnie calls him

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Uncle Sausages. But anyone that made a video was said,

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well wishes, birthday wishes. Thank you very much. It was

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very well received and appreciated. I think so thank you,

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but I definitely appreciated it. It was hard to gauge

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a response from him, to be honest, but he's seen pleased, definitely,

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But it was also very distracted, but thank you. I

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have no doubt he's watched the video because I put

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the videos together, and I'm sure he's watched them on

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his own as well. So okay, hope he keep talking

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you keep I like this. You keep talking about different

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jobs you've had, You keep talking. You don't stop talking

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about the different jobs you've had. What's all that you've done. Ps.

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I've enjoyed known about what's going on with Uncle's sausages

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in the hospital. I find it really interesting. I hope

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that your neighbor comes home soon though. Okay, So what

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I'll do, I'll give you an update on the next

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recording right now. I'm gonna I know, I'll keep kind

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of coming back to him, but I'm going to try

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and I'm going to try and ignore him during this recording,

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just for the sake of the Q and a frieday

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Q and a fried even Hey, Well, hope, what I

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can do I can try and list as many jobs

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that I've had. How about that? How about that? Then

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I could give it a go, all the different jobs. Okay.

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I was a paper boy, so delivering newspapers when I

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was a kid, evening morning, weekend, monthly. So I did that.

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That was probably my very first job, I think. And

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I was a kitchen porter again when I was a kid,

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doing a washing up. Then I worked in a bakery

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in the same place. It's the same restaurant. It's a big,

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really big restaurant, and so that was that job. So

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those were the first. Yeah, so those are two jobs

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I had, well, two different places I worked. Well fort

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not different jobs I had, but yeah, delivering s delivering newspapers,

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monthly magazines. Cause, all different jobs, but that was kind

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of what I did. That was the roles. But there's

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also roles in the bakery as well, and they delivered

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in and did so do we got the chip shop,

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lot words in the chip shop. Then I worked, I

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think my next job, actually I'm just thinking about it.

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I worked in an old people's home I think now

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called the residential homes. I think that they used to

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be just called old people's homes back then. And I

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was a cook for two weeks and that's sacked. I

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basically did two weeks whatever you want to call it.

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You know, I just got out of bed and not

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all my words are they yet Some of my birds,

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some quite a lot of my words are still in

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my bed, probably in my pillow in a form of

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sweat and whatever you call I just you know, temporary

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to see if they liked me or not. And they didn't.

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So that was over and done. With, so that was

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working as a cook or an assistant cook. And then

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I worked in the co op. Oh I also worked Yeah,

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when I was in the chip shop, I worked cleaning

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a supermarket part time. So I worked in a co

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op full time, which is a supermarket as well. And

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when I was there, I I also worked part time

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as a kitchen porter in a hotel. Yeah. Wow, forgot

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about that one. And you know that wasn't even for

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the money. I mean, I didn't work for nothing, but

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I was just bored. It's yeah, it's weird. So yes,

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I did those jobs. And then after the Boo boo

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the co op, I did a couple of cleaning jobs

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part time. Then I worked in a BBBBB a factory

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making meters or my job was packing meters and making

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boxes to put the meters in. That was pretty much

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what I did. And then I worked in a shipping

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not shipping office. It was a haulage office and it

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was a tank freight where they they basically transported liquid

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like chemicals, things like that, So I worked in there.

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I was actually thinking about that yesterday because there are

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two occasions where people where I've messed up, but then

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the people have complained about me messing up, and it's

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worked out worse for them. One was in a pub

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where I was basically serving drinks to a table and

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I was under charging. Not on purpose, I just I

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was doing a maths role and I think I just

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remembered what it was the amounts. I didn't added it

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up once, and then every time they came back, I

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just charged them the same amount. This is before we

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used to put You know, tills are much better. Now

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you put the item, you know, you click the item

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and stuff. Back then didn't have that for tills to

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literally put it in each item by the amount. It

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was not perfect for me. Anyway. They complained they got

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served by someone else because I was busy. Later in

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the evening, they got served by a different person and

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they got charged the proper amount, and they started moaning. Moaning,

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kicked up a fuss, and the manager came out and

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then they were saying, oh, yeah, but we're paid. We

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paid three pounds less all night for each round, and

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now you're charging this view. So as I said, the

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manager came around, came out and said, well, this is

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the amount you should have been pain all night. See

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if they had just shut up, paid the amount, then

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made sure they saw me next time. But no, the

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same thing happened in the tank right place. This was

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a little bit more serious because I was messing well,

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I mean, it's serious. I shouldn't be under charging people,

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and also you know, it's not good for the companies it.

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So I guess that was serious in that way, but

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I didn't mean to do it. They did accuse me

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of stealing, but like, no, I'm just really really bad

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at the job. That's pretty much what it was with

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the tank Prey. I was part of my job was

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to put to do the wages for the lorry drivers

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every week and to do the tax and stuff. So

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I did that and after about four weeks, Yeah, I

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did it every four weeks and everything's fine, and then

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I think on the fifth week I'm making this up.

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I don't know what week it was. They started coming

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one by one. You charged me too much tax, you

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told me you and they really were going at me,

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and the manager's got you know, a manager got involved,

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the head office got involved, They called up the royal family.

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It was a big old dealing and as it turned out,

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I had messed up, but I'd been messing up the

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whole time, and for the previous four weeks they've got

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way more than they should have gone. So although I

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charged too much tax on the fifth week, I didn't

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charge hardly any not nearly enough the other weeks. So

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they are up by our fifty pounds a week the

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previous weeks. The fifth week they would charged an extra

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twenty pound or they lost twenty pounds or something like that.

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So if they had it kept quiet, they'd have been

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because it was so obvious that I was going to

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get sacked or that I was going to leave, you know,

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I was so rubbish at the job. But no, So

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what happened is the head office got involved. They all

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got their money changed. But in the process they lost

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about two hundred pounds because I had to pay that

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money back that they got because it was the wages.

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It was an error, so they, you know, the same

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as they should report. It was up to them because

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you know, they needed to report an error in their wages,

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so they yes, it was there. They ended up paying

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more money, had to pay it back, so they hm hm.

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They weren't happy if they weren't happy to start with,

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but after that it was even less happy and I

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think one of them actually was threatening to beat me

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up after work. I think my response was laughing at him. Yeah. Well,

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so after that I went back to the factory boxing

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up meters electric meters, and then I tried to do

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it in chronological laude, but it's not going to be

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I did. Okay, what else hmmm? I I babysat, So

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I basically got kind of paid to look after a

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kid for a few months. But my payment for that

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was just somewhere to live. So I was sleeping on

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someone's living room floor on the cushions from the city

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and that was it, really, So all I did was

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just take the kid to school every day and make

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sure I was there at night while the people went

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to work the parents went to work. That was kind

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of a job. Another cleaning job I had one. How

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many cleaning jobs have I had? One? Two, three, four,

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five mm hmmm, six, six, seven mm hmm eight. Yeah,

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I had eight cleaning jobs done. Kitchen porter in one

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two three, no nine cleaning jobs so kitch important one

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two three four mm hmmm mmmmmmmm one two, three, four

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four or five kitchen porter in jobs And for those

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who don't know what that is, just washing up basically

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washing dishes, washing pans for a restaurant. And yeah, I've

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done You've done lots of different cleaning jobs. I've cleaned nightclubs,

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I've cleaned supermarkets. I've cleaned what have I cleaned? Nightclubs, supermarkets,

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even housing estates. Uh, I've worked on a Yeah, I've

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worked on a street cleaning as well, so walking behind

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a dusting lorry thing and just brushing, like sweeping the streets.

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I've done that as well. I've had jobs. I had

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one job where I was cleaning what's those big tent

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things that people have a functions not torkie talk pee

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poor tee talkpee, something like that, big big tents and

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people have so they can have like a garden event,

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but also they can be inside if they want ideas.

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In this country's weather, they never kind of not really

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know it's going to rain or not. And some people

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would get married in them, what they called being a

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one in torpay pay pay paid ay kpo poo poop

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something like that. But they're sturdy. But really, you know,

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big old things. So I was worked for something like

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that once. I clean caravans, Yeah, blind me clean caravans.

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I've worked in a dry cleanness that was hot. Worked

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at a bakery twice, small one and a massive one

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in a bakery, worked in the canteen and in the

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actual bakery itself, so I had two different jobs there

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at two different times. So got made redundant. And then

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I messed up a bit. And I've told this story before,

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and we were being made redundant and someone came in

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because we were so used seven temps. I didn't know

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this bloke. I just thought it was a temp. Oh,

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it's a lady or someone anyway, it and they were

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asking about the job, and I said, yeah, I was

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just showing them how to. I was showing them where

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to hide if you want to have a skye, if

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you want to just you know, have a cigarette break,

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or if you want to just just hide really and

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not do any work. Turned to that person was the

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new boss, which didn't look good on me really, and

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I had to reinterview for the job even though I

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was still there. That was a weird concept to me,

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and I genuinely didn't expect to keep my job, but

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I did, which was weird. I literally I was showing

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no respect and even at the interview, I was just

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laughing at them. In those days, I was a little

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bit cavalier, maybe a little bit, I don't care. I

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struggled to take it seriously because I was serving out

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beans and sausages to people every day, and I was

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about to get a pay cut for doing the same

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job so that I've been doing for six months or whatever.

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So I was about to get a pay cut. My

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first all laid off then rehired to do exactly the

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same job for less money, which I found to be

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a bit silly, if I'm honest, And I told them so,

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perhaps you shouldn't say that in a job in the view,

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I don't know, I'm non expert, you know. My what

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I used to say in my teens, I said, look,

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I had a little cocky, a little cocky verbal thing

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that I should do right at the end of the interviews,

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because I've had probably hundreds of interviews over the years,

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when the person said any more questions, and I'd say, yeah,

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when do I start? And at this point I stand up,

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and I just like I wouldn't do a dance, but

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I definitely moved my feet a little bit and pretends

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to be confident. Sometimes they'd laugh sometimes and I'd give

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me a job. Sometimes they didn't laugh, and they'd give

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me a job. Sometimes they'd laugh, and sometimes they didn't laugh,

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and I'd never see them again. You know, this is

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really an occasion at worked and they'd say, okay, come Monday.

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Sometimes sa'd say we'll let you know. Yeah, that's what

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happened with the Yeah. I said that to the to

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the bloke who interviewed me for the Lorry Company thing haulage. Yeah,

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any questions? Yeah, when can I start La Lana? Yeah?

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I was really bad at that job. It took me

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a day trying to learn how to do the telex machine.

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It was hard. I just couldn't. The kind of bossy

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was that I had. It showed me once and then

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leave me to figure it out. If you leave me

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to figure something out, okay, I will figure it out,

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but it might take me weeks. I'll always figure something

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out eventually if I really put my mind to it.

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But it would like okay, and he did this so quickly,

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and then he go and sit down and have a

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cup of coffee. Come back when it's done, he'd say

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to me, and I'd show it to him. No, it's

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not right. Do it again. That's not right. Do it again.

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I'm bring it back. That's not right. Do it again.

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And you know, I had a weird dream last night.

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I dreamt again about this house that I used to

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I've never lived in, but it's only in my dreams.

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This time was weird. Okay, So there's this house is

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a mixture of this house and a flat. So I've

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got this memory of this little dream world where I'm

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living in multiple places. It might be because I've moved

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so many times, but these none of these places or

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anywhere that I've actually lived. Or maybe they are a

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little bit yeah. Maybe one's a flat that I lived

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in when I was a kid, when I was well,

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when I was fifteen, sleeping on the floor in my

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step grandmother's flat. It was a little camper bed, but

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it was in the living room. It was that way.

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I wasn't pleasant. It was a novelty for the first night.

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But you know, after having my own room, that was

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hard to wake up every day. Literally it was hard.

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It was like, no teenager wants to wake up people,

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you know, wake up and there's a lot of people

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walking around in their bedroom. I think anyone in any

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age would particularly enjoy that. Hmmm, this this dream that

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was I'm looking out of the people or maybe there's

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a glass in the window in the door of the

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window with the door of the front door. There's a

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glass in the window of the window, and I see

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people just start knocking on the door and they come

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in and they were living there because I've not been there.

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I've left my stuff there, but I'm living in multiple

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different places. One's a council flat, but I've not even

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moved in there yet. I'm still living in another flat,

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which I did do once. I did actually live in

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a place, moved out, moved into my friend's council flat,

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who's back in nineteen eighty nine, and I still had

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time left on the room that I was renting, so

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I just didn't say nothing and I ended up moving back.

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That was weird. Yeah, there was another running away from

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a situation. So yeah. Other jobs, uh uh Yeah. I've

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had jobs in various different factory settings and as I said,

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pack in meters fixing, yeah, and number one on a

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conveyor belt, putting screws into stuff our conveyor belt. I

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mean basically in a bakery that was like a factory. Really.

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I worked in a pub. I've had one, done a

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few bar jobs over the years, and by worker is

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not for me. So one in a pub, which was yeah,

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I didn't enjoy that at all. I wasn't very good

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at it. I worked at Buttlings for the Christmas season

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behind the bar. That was the busiest bar. I've ever

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never witnessed anything like that. Thousands of people. It was

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just yeah, non the never ending, you know, I can't

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They had quiet times, but when it was busy, it

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was just ridiculous. And I used to help out behind

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the bar at a comedy club, but I didn't do

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much bar work as such. I would when they were busy.

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I'd just pop over and help them, and I'd say,

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anyone want to any lager part of lager? And someone

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would say yeah, and can I have a vodka and

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coke and just lager, not do anything else. So I

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thought that would be handy. So when I came over

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to one side of the bar, I'd sell them lagers.

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I knew much they were, It's just and just charge

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them for however many lagers they had, just to get

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the cue for the bar down. But people were like,

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what do you mean You're not serving any era cost said, No,

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I'm not they are. I'm just serving lager for proper

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bar people, for people that, you know, just normal people

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like me and him and her, just drinking the lager

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and of these fancy cocktails that take like half an

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hour to make. No, I'm not interested in that a lager.

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I mean sometimes I'd start putting a few pints together

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before the audience even came to a break to come over.

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So it was my idea, and I think it helped

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actually because once I started doing that, the other staff

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started getting prepared as well for the table service, so

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they started pouring out beers ready for when the tables were,

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you know, to take the mountain stuff. I know what

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I'm saying. I think I think that's the only three

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bar jobs I had. Yeah, dry cleaners that was hot.

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The two hottest jobs was definitely the bakery, the big bakery.

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I mean, the small bakery was also hot, but I

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didn't care. The big bakery that was super hot. And

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the dry cleaning. Dry cleaning stuff worked out. Then I

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used to have a I used to help this bloke

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who is self employed to clean carpets, but that was

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like sporadic. I really liked him. Though he was a

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great bloke. Just going through the different places that I've

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worked security guard and I did lots of different places

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when I was a security guard, and Canary Wharf and

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nurses home as in like stud nurses, printing firm, even

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a betting shop which was really weird. That was the

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strangest place I ever went. I worked at a for

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a former asylum. It's that old hospital that had been

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there for hundreds of years, but it was the grounds

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that basically I never got to go inside the hospital

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because it was closed, but I did go around the ground.

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Big It's in North London, massive area probably imagine it's

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a huge council estate now probably, but back then they

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were just secure in the area and that was my job,

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just patrolling there. I did it at night once. That

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was weird. Yeah, yeah, that wasn't Oh wow, I just remembered,

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isn't it weird? How I forget stuff and now I

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just remember it. Here's something I used to do. I

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used to work around the Middlesex hospitals and sometimes they'd

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ask me. These are being more on my day offs

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or days off, asked me to work in the actual hospital,

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but these were closed hospitals, old old, old hospitals which

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were freaky places to be freaky during the day, but

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during the nighttime nobody wanted to do a patrol. I

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patrolled during the day to walk around you get to

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know the area. I mean it takes ages, but and

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you have to do a zing like tap on different

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places to prove that you've done the patrol. At night,

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no one would go with me. So I just said

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to the office, I ain't gain I'm not I'm not

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doing my own sorry, simple as that. Because it was

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pitch black, so those are the zero electricity in the building.

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We had torches, but hmmm, no, didn't help us to

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see the sounds and there was a lot of sounds

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and the people that we were basically just sitting in

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for people that hadn't turned up or because it was

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over time for me. And I told the head office,

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I said, look, this is a job for two people

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patrolling this off this hospital in the middle of the night,

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in the pitch black like I'll do it with one

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other person. I'm not doing it alone. And they said

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you've got to do it arouze it. Well, I'm not sorry,

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but not sorry. You know, that was just and they

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had to accept it. It was a weird place, very weird,

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very weird. I worked a a couple of hospitals like that.

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I worked in the accident, accident and emergency ward or

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the casualty department. I think at least once doing a

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security because they had a staff shortage. That was weird

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because that's very that could be a very volatile environment.

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But luckily, on my shift, nothing particularly happened. Although I

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didn't know this staff quite well because they were in

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the same hospital that I was working in anyway, so

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I'd worked with them and everyone was called on with

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most of the people. And some people liked working in

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the accident and emergency ward because they liked the drama.

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They enjoyed it. I just wanted to go for a sleep,

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you know. How was the perks of doing a night shift.

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If there's no one around, you go a little sleep.

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I'm trying to think what other jobs I had security.

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I've had a lot of sales jobs. Most of them

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didn't work out very well, and they were pretty much

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commission based only, and not one of those resulted in

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me getting paid. I did quite a few over the years,

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really quite a few in the nineties, Not in my nineties,

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but in the nineties I did a lot of those

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kinds of jobs, hoping that it would lead to some

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kind of financial security. And then I was a DJ

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as well, worked in offices, do administration, answering the phones,

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taking orders, things like that. I've canvassed for double glazing,

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also for life insurance, so this is knocking on people's doors,

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also for satellite dishes as well. I've been what did

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I do being a Yeah, I suppose. I'm just trying

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to think of some of the other jobs I had

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in the nineties. There must be sometimes I'm just forgotten

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forgotten about. Was the security for kay the old the

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new opera house that was being built. Yeah, that was okay,

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kind of I done. Did work with some builders on

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a train station, taking down lighting, reading out the lighting.

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So that's something I did. That was overnight mm hmm,

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call centers. I fell asleep and sorry. So I had

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my proper sales job, my first proper sales job, now

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my second actually, so I sold till rolls for a while,

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but yeah, this is the second sales job that I

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actually got paid for. And it was calling people up,

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cold calling people, trying to talk them into taking on

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a phone contract. So I did that for a few months.

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Then I started working in insurance, selling car insurance. That

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didn't work out well. I was there for two and

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a half years, but then it went a bit ooh,

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you know, a bit. And then I worked in retail again,

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in a gift shop. I did that twice, two different towns,

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worked in three different insurance companies. This is during two thousands,

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well two during the two thousands, and then one two

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thousand and twelve. Then I went to university for three years.

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During that time, I had a job in a gift

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shop part time. I also worked as a care worker

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for in a mental health care unit and it was

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a locked unit, so I worked there on the weekends

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for a while for a little while. Yes, so I

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guess the next thing is I worked at children's charity

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on the reception part time, and I was also self

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employed as a counselor for a few years. Yeah, and

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then after that I went back to I did get

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a job in a call center which was basically break

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a breakdown service car breakdown service. So I went there,

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got that job and left shortly afterwards. M Then what

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did I do? Then? I went back to insurance and

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I went back to current insurance again. Did that m hmm, Yeah,

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that was it. That's all the jobs I can remember

470
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.519
off the top of my head. There's been lots of

471
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:56.480
jobs in between, but that's kind of the main ballpark,

472
00:52:56.639 --> 00:53:12.559
as it were. H hm hmm. So that's the jobs

473
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:23.199
that I've had. Yeah, quite a few different sales jobs

474
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:30.719
over the years. I'm just trying to think of any

475
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:39.039
of a weird jobs I might have had I've forgotten about.

476
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:54.320
We think hear me think it's very overcast outside today,

477
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:04.480
well overcast, I don't know. The temperature is definitely different.

478
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:12.760
It's dropped like a lot compared to what it was.

479
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.000
I can just I could feel it to me tales.

480
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:27.840
I think that's everything that I can think of about

481
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:32.760
the jobs. So I hope I'm not gonna I won't

482
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:39.199
talk about the uncle sausages in hospital in this recording,

483
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.519
but I will do another one, a different recording where

484
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:51.800
I talk just about that. Michelle asks me, can you

485
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:59.000
explain what council housing is? Okay, Michelle, I'm not sure

486
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:04.159
where you're from. I was going to say I was

487
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:11.360
going to give you a comparison, but I'm not sure, okay, right,

488
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:17.239
social house, it is social housing. Yeah, it's a council

489
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:25.199
housing is social housing. It's basically properties that have been

490
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:33.639
built by the government or by the local because every

491
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:38.480
area has its local council. So there's the government, then

492
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:44.039
there's the keyno. So I'm in Essex. So for example,

493
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:59.760
the council in Essex probably about nineteen eighty, between seventy

494
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:04.239
eight to eighty I built this building that I'm living in,

495
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:15.800
and solely for the purpose of renting the properties out

496
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:31.320
to members of the public as social housing. And see

497
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.280
I've lived in because I've mentioned council housing before, I

498
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.559
have lived in lots of different council places. I mean

499
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.559
I was born in a council house or not literally born.

500
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:47.199
I was born in the hospital, although my older brother

501
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.119
was born at home. But I was born, you know,

502
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:54.239
I lived in a council house when I was first born.

503
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.679
My len and granddad my dad grew up in a

504
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.920
council house when he was a child, so my nell

505
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.599
and grand had lived in a council house for from

506
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:16.320
I don't know, for a long time, and then I

507
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:20.119
lived in a council house and I think they were

508
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:27.679
first I'm going to make this up, so I thought

509
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:37.880
maybe I should look into some facts about history of

510
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:53.519
UK council housing. So okay, apparently the official term for

511
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:58.559
it in this country is public housing. I didn't realize that,

512
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:08.679
also known as council housing or social housing, provided the

513
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:20.000
majority of rented accommodation until two thousand and eleven, and

514
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:30.320
then private rentals overtook. So there's more private rentals than

515
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:41.599
there is social housing or council houses. I wonder when

516
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:49.039
it started. I'm just having a quick look social housing

517
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.400
in the UK. Well, I'm going to say in England,

518
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:56.920
so I don't know how far it was. I imagine

519
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:03.800
also Scotland and Wales, and but you know, I'm not

520
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:11.320
one hundred percent sure. It says here on a website

521
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:19.119
called England dot shelter dot org dot UK. Social housing

522
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:23.679
in this country dates back to the late nineteenth century,

523
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:31.760
but the nineteen nineteen Housing and Planing Act saw the

524
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:37.960
government embark on the first comprehensive plan to build social housing,

525
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:44.840
led by councils. This plan was the foundation of a

526
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:50.239
large scale building program that stretched through the latter half

527
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:54.400
of the twentieth century. Now I know a little bit

528
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:59.599
about this post war government after the Second World War

529
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:06.880
faced the persistent problem of privately rented slums, which became

530
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:11.000
a problem in my twenties to be fair, the amount

531
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:16.800
of rubbish places I ended up living in, and also

532
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:21.760
the destruction of properties during the war and the need

533
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:28.159
to rent housing to soldiers that were returning. So they

534
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:35.360
set out this big old thing where they built loads

535
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:40.920
of houses to provide millions of ordinary people with stability

536
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:51.519
of long term tenancies at affordable prices. Now I think

537
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.400
it was the fifties or the sixties. Maybe the fifties,

538
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:02.679
which is post war, wasn't it really tower blocks was

539
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:10.639
a solution. So these I don't know how high, but

540
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:16.000
some of them like twenty floors, twelve floors, twenty floors,

541
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:25.760
some smaller. But these big tower blocks which had they

542
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:28.599
were kind of quite often they were just on their own,

543
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:32.480
that'd be in an area of land where there are

544
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:36.480
other tower blocks. Sometimes you get tower blocks that were

545
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:46.199
connected together, you know, big, big old things. And when

546
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:50.679
I lived in Newcastle i lived in a tower block.

547
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.880
I also lived in a tower block in London in

548
01:01:55.000 --> 01:02:04.440
nineteen eighty nine. And the one thing I mean when

549
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:10.400
I lived in the one in Newcastle. I didn't really

550
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:16.960
know any difference anything, you know, because before that we've

551
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:20.039
I lived in a council house in London. I don't

552
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:25.119
remember it. I was a baby, and I lived in

553
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:29.079
another council house which had foster parents for a year

554
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.039
and a half or whatever. I don't remember that either,

555
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:37.280
because there was a baby. And then at the age

556
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:43.880
of two ish my mum came back and got us

557
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:49.320
from London took us to Newcastle. Although my oldest brother

558
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:53.280
said that we spent some time in Scotland because he

559
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.280
was a lot older than me, so I don't remember

560
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:03.840
that either, but I remember Newcastle. So I only remember

561
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:20.159
two different accommodations at that period of time, as in

562
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:24.159
like living with her one who is in this house

563
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:30.400
which was as far as I could see these is

564
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:33.920
it terraced houses, you know where they're basically just one

565
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:40.159
after another after another, all stuck together from and literally

566
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.519
it looked seemed like you could look for miles and

567
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:47.360
just one massive long road and the opposite of the

568
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:53.320
road is exactly the same. Every house looked the same,

569
01:03:56.360 --> 01:04:00.280
and then at some point there'd be a shop and

570
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:07.079
then they carry on again. And I remember that road.

571
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:14.320
I've seen I've seen images and I've seen stuff on

572
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:19.599
TV of places that remind me of that. Now, whether

573
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:22.920
it was in Newcastle or whether it was somewhere else,

574
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:28.079
I don't know. But as far as social housing, that

575
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:36.000
probably was also social housing, council council property. And I

576
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:39.000
lived in a council flat. Now you couldn't own a

577
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:44.599
council flat back then, so those tower blocks were all

578
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:51.679
counsel in this country. And I know, I'm sure there

579
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:56.480
was there was probably tower blocks in London which were private,

580
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:01.079
but you know, i'm just for people with money, but

581
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:05.159
generally the tower blocks for the social housing, it was

582
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:12.079
just for social housing. These kind of identical, very very

583
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:18.079
similar towers, big old things. They was There was one

584
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:22.960
in Stratford, not the one I lived in, but it was.

585
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:25.239
It was really weird. It was just on its own,

586
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:29.719
really stood out. I had a friend who lived there

587
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.840
and it was just I know, one, two, three, four

588
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:39.440
or five, well, I know twelve twelve, probably about twelve

589
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:47.599
stories and it was just on its own. There was

590
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:50.840
shops around it and there were some houses behind it,

591
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:54.920
but just this tower block. And I don't know, maybe

592
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.480
there were others in the fifties and they knocked it

593
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:03.519
down and they put other you know, built houses. But yeah,

594
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:06.800
so that's what they did. They built all these huge towers.

595
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:13.719
I say huge, not as big as you know, the

596
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:17.920
Eiffel Tower or some of the huge ones you get

597
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:20.960
in well in anyway. Now, I mean we've got some

598
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:28.239
huge ones in America, in America, in the UK, in London. Imagine,

599
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:33.239
there's huge, huge buildings pretty much in every city of

600
01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:39.039
the world. So I didn't live in any of those,

601
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.920
but they still were high, especially for me because I

602
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:55.280
was very little still at So yeah, that's kind of

603
01:06:55.320 --> 01:07:05.239
what social housing was. It was the norm, the norm,

604
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:09.480
you know, the kind of the normal situation by the

605
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:16.440
seventies was you'd be brought up in a council house,

606
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:21.639
you'd live in a council house with your parents, your family,

607
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:29.639
you'd leave and then eventually you get your own counsel

608
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:32.840
maybe you get your own council flat or your own

609
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:40.519
counsel house for your own family, or if you live

610
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.360
on your own, get a council flat in a block,

611
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.199
you know, depending on how many people are in your family.

612
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:53.679
So that just seemed to be the norm. I didn't

613
01:07:53.719 --> 01:08:00.400
take advantage of that when I was fifteen because I'm

614
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:04.840
not advantage. But I was pretty much homeless. When I

615
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:11.360
was fifteen, I was sleeping with my step nand's floor.

616
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:16.199
I was sleeping on the floor in the living room

617
01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:20.239
on a camper bed. I mean, sofa surfing basically is

618
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:27.520
class as homeless. So you know, at that age, i'd

619
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:31.239
probably I wouldn't have been given my own flat at fifteen,

620
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.239
but maybe at sixteen I might have done. They might

621
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:37.680
give me a council place, especially as I lived in

622
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:41.319
a little town. It wouldn't have If I'd have been

623
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:43.199
on a council list, I probably wouldn't have had to

624
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:49.199
wait long. But I just, I guess I just wanted

625
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:53.359
to do my own thing, be independent, although that would

626
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:58.600
have been been independent. I was a kid. What didn't

627
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:06.279
I know? What did I know? And I'm not sure

628
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:10.520
when I became an adult, probably a couple of years ago,

629
01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:19.560
I think. I think I think once when I was

630
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:24.359
in my thirties, when I started getting ill with anxiety

631
01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:28.159
and didn't know what was going on, I think I

632
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:30.800
started to grow up a little bit because I had

633
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:33.560
to deal with something that I didn't know what to do,

634
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:43.479
how to deal with it. Yeah, I think with I

635
01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.239
think right now, I probably at my most adult, my

636
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:50.760
most grown up in some ways, you know, going back

637
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:58.760
and forward supporting someone who's very poorly. It almost feels

638
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:09.319
like I'm growing up up, almost almost slightly. So. Yeah.

639
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:13.199
So I lived in I was born into a council house.

640
01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:16.520
I lived in another council house where I was fostered,

641
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:22.239
another council house with my mom, Mummy, mom mom. The

642
01:10:22.319 --> 01:10:30.399
first one a block of council, a council block. Then

643
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.000
then I was in a children's two children's homes. Then

644
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:40.319
I lived in another council house, which was my step

645
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:46.359
mom's mom's house before she moved into her flat. So

646
01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:51.000
I lived there for a little while. Then my dad

647
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.880
got a council house which we all lived in, me,

648
01:10:56.119 --> 01:11:01.000
his wife, and the three of the three kids, so

649
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:09.479
that's six. Then he bought a house, so that was

650
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:14.840
the end of that council house. So the seventh place

651
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:17.800
I lived, not the seventh place, because I moved around

652
01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:19.159
a lot when I was a kid, but I don't

653
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:23.600
remember it. I don't remember where it was, but that

654
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:27.359
was the first private place that I lived. My dad

655
01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:31.239
bought a big house because we had a new little

656
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:39.520
brother was born, in nineteen eighty, the day before my birthday,

657
01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:44.880
the day before my eighth birthday, he was born. I

658
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.960
actually I was I'm responsible for him being born, which

659
01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.800
sounds really bad, doesn't it when you say it like that.

660
01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:56.479
But he's what happened, right. I broke her waters, his

661
01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:03.960
mum's waters, because I fell over. It's really weird. Like

662
01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:06.920
this council house. I loved this council house that we

663
01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:10.039
lived in. My nan and grand had moved in there

664
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:14.520
as well afterwards when we had moved out. I loved

665
01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:24.600
the council house because it was the first, I don't know,

666
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:29.079
the first safe space that I'd ever lived that I

667
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:33.079
could remember. I mean because I was seven, so I

668
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:37.199
could It was the first I mean living in my

669
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:41.399
step then's my step grandmother's house for a few months,

670
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:44.000
that was also safe. But this was different because it

671
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:48.000
was like a family, and I've never lived as a

672
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:54.600
family before, you know, my three brothers, a father, and

673
01:12:54.680 --> 01:13:00.079
a mother. I mean, I had, but I was the

674
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:07.119
last time that happened, I was three months old baby,

675
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:10.520
so it was kind of I don't know, it's new

676
01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:14.520
and it was fresh and it was lovely, very I

677
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:20.000
absolutely was happy for the first year it was great.

678
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:27.359
And so what I'm talking about that I'm getting all emotional.

679
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:34.199
You can all start creating. No, I'm not so. I

680
01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:41.239
lived there, So that's so. I'd had six council places,

681
01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:46.560
moved there. Then I lived in a council In nineteen

682
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:58.680
eighty six, about April May time, I moved in to

683
01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:06.720
my step mom's mom's flat with my step mom. That

684
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:15.840
was a council flat, and then from then on I

685
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:21.680
was just in private accommodation, renting privately all the way

686
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:33.039
through eighty seven eighty eight. I temporarily stayed in a

687
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:40.359
council flat in eighty nine, a council house in eighty nine,

688
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:55.199
and then I stayed in another council flat in the

689
01:14:55.359 --> 01:15:00.359
beginning of nineteen ninety with a friend I was working with.

690
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:09.920
Unfortunately he passed away within two weeks of maybeing there

691
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:14.520
three weeks or something. It's very strange. And I moved

692
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:20.319
back to the room that I was in before, and

693
01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:25.840
then lovely bloke called Jim, It's a really nice bloke,

694
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:37.279
got really well with him, and then from there I

695
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:44.600
lived in I'm just sort of thinking going forward. No, No,

696
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:52.319
I lived to another council house in ninety four, I

697
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:59.399
was renting a room, so that's ten, and then I

698
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:11.199
got an other than ninety five another council house. I

699
01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:19.920
was renting the room. Then ninety six another council house. Renting.

700
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.960
It's basically renting a flat the sublet. I didn't realize

701
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:27.239
it was a council but anyway, let's move on from that.

702
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:32.279
So it's a room. So that was that's seven. That

703
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:50.479
was ninety six, and then nothing for four years. Yeah,

704
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:56.920
no more council from ninety well it's ninety six ninety seven,

705
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:02.880
so no more council places until I moved in here

706
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:13.720
in two thousand and fifteen. So twenty years of private renting,

707
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:17.760
just private. I did a lot of renting before that,

708
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:24.560
with intermittent council places. Yeah, from so from ninety seven

709
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:34.079
to twenty fifteen, Yeah, I didn't live in any other

710
01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:46.159
council places. Trying to think, No, No, I didn't, No,

711
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:54.640
I didn't, And I moved here and I've been here

712
01:17:54.760 --> 01:18:00.119
since ever since. So my calculations, I've lived dear in

713
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:12.840
eighteen different council properties or social housing properties in my life. Now.

714
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:16.760
I don't know, it might be more, but that's what

715
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:26.119
I've calculated based on what I know. So I think

716
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:29.479
the idea is council housing. It's just to give everyone

717
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:34.439
an opportunity to have somewhere to live, because some of

718
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:40.920
the places, especially well the early years, you know, early

719
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:49.680
nineteen hundreds or early twentieth century and even after the

720
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:53.720
Second World War, between the First World War Second World War,

721
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:57.640
that there was a lot of really horrible places, slums

722
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:04.359
as it said on that website. And it seems that

723
01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:10.479
council housing has got more of a reputation these days

724
01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:17.359
of just being for people that are unemployed. But that's

725
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:20.520
not the case. It never was the case. It's just

726
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:28.560
it's down to priority. And also now there's a huge

727
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:33.520
waiting list. See if I was in London, i'd still

728
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:38.760
be waiting for a property even after ten years or twelve,

729
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:41.960
thirteen years whatever, you know, because I was on the

730
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:48.720
council waiting list before I would have been yeah, I

731
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:53.600
wouldn't have a property yet. Probably now part of the

732
01:19:53.680 --> 01:20:00.640
reason I got this property is when I got diagnosed

733
01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:06.680
a bipolar the second time, I was pretty ill. To

734
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:13.279
be honest, it was yeah, full on couldn't work and

735
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:19.119
had a proper you could say, a proper melt a

736
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:24.439
meltdown or whatever. So my social worker, I had a

737
01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:31.399
social worker, and she came with someone else around to

738
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:33.760
where I was living. That's when I was living in

739
01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:38.000
a basement in this see. I quite liked the room

740
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:44.319
in some ways, apart from the school opposite. It was

741
01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:59.640
fairly quiet, so weekends at night pretty quiet. And I

742
01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:03.600
did disliked my previous room because I lived somewhere else

743
01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:08.479
before that for a year. I disliked that so much

744
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:11.319
that it was actually a relief to get out of

745
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:14.079
there because I'd had some problems with the people that

746
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:18.079
lived there. And also the property wasn't up it just

747
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:22.520
it was way too expensive. I couldn't afford it, you know,

748
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:26.239
So this was kind of a relief. But then there

749
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:30.960
was the problem of mold, which the landlord didn't sort out.

750
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:37.600
So and also it's a tiny room. When my land

751
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:41.600
when my social worker came in there, she couldn't believe it.

752
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:46.239
She sat down. It was like the room was smelly

753
01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:49.359
because of the mold, but also it was so dark

754
01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:54.640
because there was no light coming in and it was

755
01:21:54.800 --> 01:22:00.640
so small. They struggled to kind of sit anywhere, and

756
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:06.119
she said, this isn't fit for living I mean, it

757
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:11.159
did tick all the legal requirements. It was exactly within

758
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:16.199
the measurement of the law, you know, being wide enough

759
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.039
and stuff. So there was no laws being broken, although

760
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:23.560
he should have the landlord should have sorted the mold out,

761
01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:28.039
but that would probably be a civil case if it

762
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:33.359
went to court. But even so, it was too small,

763
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:40.600
It wasn't it wasn't fit for human consumption where I lived.

764
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:47.479
Because of that, you know, she came and she helped

765
01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:51.880
me to sort out and she helped me basically to

766
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:59.960
sort out psychiatrists and therapy and benefits. She was great.

767
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:03.840
She really helped me with a lot of stuff because

768
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:07.560
I couldn't really function very well, so she helped me

769
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:10.159
do it or put me in touch with someone else

770
01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:17.439
that helped me do it. And then about a year later,

771
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:25.880
I was took about ten months for my benefits to

772
01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:32.039
come through properly, so I was on minimum like sixty

773
01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:35.640
pounds a week for nearly a year, and then the

774
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:39.920
benefits came through and I got my full benefits. So

775
01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:45.239
during that time I just had to It was the

776
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:51.399
analogy treading treading, not treading pooh, treading water. I don't know,

777
01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:57.680
just plod along and kind of just wait, I suppose,

778
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.520
and I remember I was eating, I was shopping at

779
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:08.720
I had to give we have given twenty five pounds

780
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:11.359
a week to my landlord to make up the rent

781
01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:15.600
because they weren't paying the full rent because it was

782
01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:18.960
sixty five a week and they were only paying forty.

783
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:23.039
So I had to pay in twenty five. So that

784
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:27.199
left me with not a lot. So I was going

785
01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:30.279
to Aldi, which is a really cheap shop here, and

786
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:40.399
I was buying canned potatoes. Everything was cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap.

787
01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:48.760
I got through, but I just had so little to

788
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:53.039
get by, but I managed. I might have lost some weight,

789
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:56.239
I'm not sure, because I was doing a bit of

790
01:24:56.319 --> 01:24:59.520
exercise as well, because I have my punch bag in

791
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:05.039
the kit area. This little kitchenette, so there's a sink,

792
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:15.800
and the cooker was basically a camping stove with I

793
01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:18.079
think one It might have had two rings. I think

794
01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:21.239
there's one ring on top and a little oven that

795
01:25:21.359 --> 01:25:25.000
you could fit a frozen meal inside. And there was

796
01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:28.840
a kettle, and there was a toaster, and there was

797
01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:36.600
a unit and that was it. Really So I quite

798
01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:39.720
liked having that because then I didn't have to share

799
01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:43.119
a kitchen with anyone, but the toilet was shared or

800
01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:52.600
the bathroom. Brother. And because it was a kitchenette, because

801
01:25:52.600 --> 01:25:57.439
it had a little kitchen, one landlord called it a flatlet.

802
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:08.600
But for housing benefit they didn't. So he wanted sixty five.

803
01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:10.800
They said they're only going to pay him out for

804
01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:14.039
a room. All it is is a room with a

805
01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:17.840
little area where there's a few kitchen bits. It's a

806
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:22.920
room with a room with a sink, basically, so I

807
01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:27.000
didn't get the full money. He used to chase me around,

808
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:30.880
he did. I used to have to hide sometimes, I

809
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:35.960
have to dress up, didn't disguise because it's always like like,

810
01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:43.119
where's the money, where's my money? He got to the

811
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:46.319
point where I'd feel guilty. So if he caught me,

812
01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.399
because he would hang around waiting to see me come

813
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:52.640
in and i'd carry you bags. He said, what are

814
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:55.399
you doing? Why if you haven't got my rent, how

815
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:58.960
come you're going out buying stuff. I said, it's food.

816
01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:04.479
It's food, sir. I needed to eat. I'm sorry, sir.

817
01:27:07.880 --> 01:27:16.600
So that was a weird one. And then I I

818
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:24.119
was waiting on a council list and they said, oh,

819
01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:28.800
I basically probably had about a ten year weight to

820
01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:36.399
get on a council. So I sent in information from

821
01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:44.920
my doctor, from my psychiatrist, you know, medication stuff about

822
01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:48.880
the bipolar and personality disorder. Actually I didn't know about

823
01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:51.720
the personality disorder at the time. They didn't tell me.

824
01:27:52.279 --> 01:27:54.119
One of those diagnosed. I didn't tell me about that.

825
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:58.760
I just said bipolar because I've already been diagnosed with

826
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:05.439
bipolar before two years earlier, and been put on medication

827
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:10.359
and decided not to take it, which possibly wasn't a

828
01:28:10.439 --> 01:28:15.640
very good idea. So I just ignored it, and then

829
01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:19.600
I got on well again, went through the whole process

830
01:28:19.640 --> 01:28:22.960
again and got diagnosed a second time. But they also

831
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:26.479
diagnosed me with a personality disorder, which I didn't realize

832
01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:35.079
until I started having psychotherapy. I think the thing is,

833
01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:39.039
the first time I was diagnosed with bipolar, it was

834
01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:51.000
one psych psychiatric session, and the second time I was diagnosed,

835
01:28:51.880 --> 01:29:00.359
I saw psychiatrists. I saw a few different psychiatrists, probably five,

836
01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:08.199
six times, maybe seven times. I don't know why they

837
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:12.399
had so many people look at me and interview me.

838
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:19.239
I think they called it. But yeah, so I've got

839
01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:22.560
all the notes. Actually, so I asked because one of

840
01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:24.680
a couple of them were a little bit rude. One

841
01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:32.000
woman psychiatrists who was very very judgy, very judgy. So

842
01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:34.479
I asked the I went to my doctor surgery and

843
01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:39.079
I said, I'd like to get access to all my

844
01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:43.520
doctor's notes because that would include the psychia the psychiatrist's

845
01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:47.880
notes that they made, and they gave it to me.

846
01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:51.039
And she had been rude, but not in a way

847
01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:56.399
that I could do anything. So she did. She wrote down.

848
01:29:56.439 --> 01:29:58.720
So I'm not going to talk about what she wrote down,

849
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:01.279
but she wrote down on some personal stuff that I

850
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:05.039
told her. But when I told her that personal stuff,

851
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:11.359
she made some faces of like that and that like

852
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:21.720
very judging, very judge, judge, judge it judge. So I

853
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:24.079
sent that information, not not that information, but I sent

854
01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:30.560
doctors stuff to the council, to the housing department to

855
01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:33.159
see if I could be if that would help me

856
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:39.319
get up the list a little bit instead of waiting

857
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:41.800
for ten years because I didn't at the time. I

858
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:50.239
just that seemed that seemed an impossibility, and they still

859
01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:58.760
put me down, as I think d so so, so basically,

860
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:03.760
if you're the category they had me before was someone

861
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:08.640
that didn't need anywhere to live like. It's almost like

862
01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:11.479
I lived in a perfect place. I had a full

863
01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:14.880
time job and everything was going well. That's the category

864
01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:19.560
I had of housing before, even though that wasn't the case.

865
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:23.399
Then they bumped me up a little bit because of

866
01:31:23.560 --> 01:31:30.399
the doctor's notes and stuff like that. But still I

867
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:36.680
think they categorized me as E category E or baby

868
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:44.920
category B ABC D D, which was not It's like

869
01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:48.760
quite low down, so I'd probably still be waiting sort

870
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:54.119
of five six years, maybe maybe longer. And then I

871
01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:57.439
contacted my social worker and I said to her, my

872
01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:01.119
asked her, I explained to the situation because she'd been

873
01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:05.520
in my property, and she was surprised that I wasn't

874
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:11.079
getting any kind of help because she'd help me with

875
01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:15.880
all the psychiatric stuff, she'd help me with the benefits

876
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:23.319
side of things. She but she didn't. She was surprised

877
01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:28.640
that I was not being I was not being helped

878
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:34.000
by the housing based on where I was living. So

879
01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:36.880
because she'd lived she hadn't lived with me. That would

880
01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:42.199
be weird because she'd visited my property and she knew

881
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:46.119
how grotty it was and I had no way of

882
01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:51.479
moving out of there at the time. I mean, you know,

883
01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:57.000
I just I was kind of stuck, really, and she

884
01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:08.600
wrote a letter to the housing department, and I'm going

885
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:12.359
to use the word ping ping. I was right near

886
01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:18.079
the top. I wasn't at the top, but I was

887
01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:22.279
near the top. So this is I can't give you.

888
01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:27.079
I can't give you an exact timeline. I know I

889
01:33:27.199 --> 01:33:33.399
moved out. It was April two thousand and fifteen. The

890
01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:37.000
exact timeline of when I moved out, or when I

891
01:33:37.479 --> 01:33:43.479
asked my social worker to if you'd write me a letter,

892
01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:57.760
probably six months earlier, possibly maybe even maybe it was shorter,

893
01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:05.239
maybe it was three months. And then I was able

894
01:34:05.279 --> 01:34:07.520
to start bidding and I could see that there was

895
01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:13.600
thirty people above me, and there was twenty people above

896
01:34:13.680 --> 01:34:17.000
me in the list. So you bid on something if

897
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:21.560
there's twenty people above you, yeah, basically not, nothing's going

898
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:24.840
to happen there. Then I started bidding and there was

899
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:33.800
five people above me. I was like, oh wow. But

900
01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:36.880
it never sort of, you know, didn't. Sometimes they'd say

901
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:40.239
there's like three hundred people are bidded for this property.

902
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:43.680
There's no point in bidding for a property that's been

903
01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:48.640
bidded on by three hundred people unless I'm above them.

904
01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:54.439
So that's the thing. If you're higher up on the

905
01:34:54.560 --> 01:35:03.439
list of priorities, I guess then even if a thousand

906
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:08.640
people a bidded, if you're higher up, then you might

907
01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:20.560
get first DIBs. So what happened next is I or

908
01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:24.079
I did live in another council house. I just remembered

909
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:30.960
I lived another council house in nineteen eighty eight. I

910
01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:34.640
rented a room in a council house. Isn't that weird?

911
01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:45.960
I just remembered. So what's that? Nineteen different council places? Anyway, Eventually,

912
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:50.760
you know, not a long time after the social worker

913
01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:58.279
did that, I got offered a viewing, and this was

914
01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:02.239
the first property I looked at. Didn't look at any

915
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:05.000
of us, didn't get offered to look at any others.

916
01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:10.920
This was the first one. Although I did get offered

917
01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:14.600
to look at one near where my dad lives, but

918
01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:18.199
then they never got back to me until I'd lived

919
01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:22.640
here for about two months or a month. Hell, I

920
01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:26.199
missed a new land. Are you still interested in that

921
01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:32.640
flat near where your dad lives? I said, how do

922
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:35.600
you know that it's near where my dad lives? But

923
01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:40.159
I said, I can't now I've just moved into this place,

924
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:44.000
and I did want that. I did want to look

925
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:52.520
at it because maybe they would have let me. It's

926
01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:57.239
possible if I just said, look, that's the flat I wanted.

927
01:36:57.319 --> 01:36:59.000
I want to be near my dad or whatever. But

928
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:09.319
how well, it's strange. But I was already living here,

929
01:37:09.319 --> 01:37:12.000
and I'd already signed the contract and I've been here

930
01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:15.000
for a month, so I just said, no, don't worry

931
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:19.880
about it. I kind of didn't really want to live

932
01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:23.399
in that other place either, because that town I've not

933
01:37:23.479 --> 01:37:27.439
really liked. I don't like it really, and this was new,

934
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:31.399
and this was but it is a long way away

935
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:37.199
from anywhere, and it's one of those things I would

936
01:37:37.239 --> 01:37:43.960
have missed out on a lot of experiences if I'd

937
01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.439
not moved here. But then I would have had experiences there,

938
01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:54.800
wouldn't I, you know, wherever I went, But there's certain

939
01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:58.000
things that I would never have wanted to miss. One

940
01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:00.880
of those would have been Andre. I guess the other

941
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:04.399
one would be Vinnie, now, wouldn't it. So those are

942
01:38:04.479 --> 01:38:11.199
the two things to two probably most important aspects, and

943
01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:15.359
as my friend downstairs, but so much of that was hard.

944
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:20.880
It was such a hard, hard time at times. But

945
01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:27.359
we were really really close. And now what's going on

946
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:36.119
with Uncle sausages? Yeah, it's it's there's no way of

947
01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:39.880
known what would have happened if I'd moved to a

948
01:38:39.960 --> 01:38:48.479
different a different flat. I suppose. I hope. I hope

949
01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:55.680
I have explained what council housing is with this explanation.

950
01:38:56.119 --> 01:39:05.520
I hope I think I have. Yes, I mean, it's

951
01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:10.880
a great We're very lucky to have social housing. It's

952
01:39:11.079 --> 01:39:17.159
just there isn't enough now. And what happened in the

953
01:39:17.319 --> 01:39:23.560
eighties the government started to sell off council properties to

954
01:39:24.039 --> 01:39:27.479
people living in them, giving them the right to buy,

955
01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:33.800
which was great for the people living in them because

956
01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:37.479
they've got a chance to get onto the property leadder

957
01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:46.439
and also they got to buy the property for a

958
01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:49.680
lot less. They got to buy for a lot less

959
01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:54.000
than the property was valued at. So if I bought

960
01:39:54.039 --> 01:39:58.479
this property, I'd get probably maybe forty to fifty percent

961
01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:01.439
off the price if I bought it, if I purchased

962
01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:09.039
it at least forty which is a big amount, isn't it?

963
01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:12.119
Because you think I wouldn't be allowed to do anything

964
01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:14.960
with it or sell it for I think five years,

965
01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:19.680
But then in five years time it's going to be

966
01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:26.960
worth more than now. So yeah, it's it's a it's

967
01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:29.920
a win win situation if so if I you know,

968
01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:34.359
for someone doing that, So I understand why people would

969
01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:41.319
want to do it. But the results of it was

970
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:48.600
the government didn't. They said they were going to apparently

971
01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:52.000
without getting political because I was a little kid, so

972
01:40:52.159 --> 01:40:55.479
I can't remember, but they were going to replace the

973
01:40:55.600 --> 01:41:05.159
housing with new social housing. So nowadays there's a social

974
01:41:05.239 --> 01:41:10.760
housing shortage because of how many people purchased. But they

975
01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:13.159
were just doing what they were allowed to do, and

976
01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:22.720
they took advantage of a situation, which can't blame him

977
01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:30.399
for that, you know. I mean, even my aunt bought

978
01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:43.079
my nanny granddad's house just before my granddad departed, and

979
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:46.880
so my nan lived there. She didn't have to pay

980
01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:51.880
any rent, didn't have to I think she might have

981
01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:56.840
paid the bills and that was it for the from

982
01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:03.920
nineteen ninety one or nineteen ninety or whatever until she

983
01:42:04.319 --> 01:42:10.560
stopped living there. Then my Auntie sold it and made

984
01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:14.800
a big profit. Would have been a big profit because

985
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:24.840
it wouldn't have cost much to buy it. So yeah,

986
01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:28.439
it was again that seemed a shame because it was

987
01:42:28.479 --> 01:42:33.880
a council house that was a nice little counsel estate.

988
01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:36.119
That was that I lived in. When I lived in

989
01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:38.560
that house, and then my nan and grand had moved

990
01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:42.199
into the same house when we moved into a big

991
01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:57.560
house that my dad bought. Yeah, that was probably my

992
01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:02.079
favorite house ever. That house there and those two Actually

993
01:43:02.680 --> 01:43:09.199
that house where I lived as a family kind of

994
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:13.359
for the first time when I was seven, and then

995
01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:17.840
the house and Monday and Grant had lived there afterwards,

996
01:43:18.319 --> 01:43:21.520
so I kind of was going into that house for decades.

997
01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:26.520
The other house that I really loved was my uncle's

998
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:32.479
house in Kent, and he lived near the beach, had

999
01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:37.079
this big house. It was just beautiful, beautiful house, massive

1000
01:43:37.159 --> 01:43:40.399
garden in the back, beautiful garden. But it was just

1001
01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:43.359
had it for me. It wasn't that it was a

1002
01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:48.319
big house. It was the atmosphere. It had a nice atmosphere,

1003
01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:56.439
a nice, pleasant, gentle atmosphere, which was the kind of

1004
01:43:56.520 --> 01:43:58.760
person that my uncle was. I'd say it was. I

1005
01:43:58.840 --> 01:44:01.319
haven't seen him for a long time, but it's still around.

1006
01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:09.760
But it was gentle, it was kind, generous. It was

1007
01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:17.359
just a really nice person and I like that. And yeah,

1008
01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:26.119
so I really liked that house. I like the atmosphere hmm. Yeah,

1009
01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:33.760
that's my two favorite houses so far. I would say, mmm,

1010
01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:39.079
what if there's any other houses I liked? That's another

1011
01:44:39.279 --> 01:44:46.439
that's a subject for another day, I suppose. Yeah. So

1012
01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:53.319
that's that's the answer to your question, Michelle. Can I

1013
01:44:53.439 --> 01:44:56.640
explain what council housing is? So? I hope I have

1014
01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:03.520
explained it. So it's basically social housing or public housing.

1015
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:08.920
Although a public house is a pub, isn't it so yeah,

1016
01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:15.159
which is weird, but that's what a pub is short

1017
01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:19.800
for public house, a house where a public can go

1018
01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:26.399
to and have a point. I suppose maybe they didn't

1019
01:45:26.479 --> 01:45:29.560
used to have alcohol there to start with, because I

1020
01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:33.079
think sometimes they would be. It would be more like

1021
01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:38.880
a hotel or a motel or something, so people traveling

1022
01:45:39.039 --> 01:45:41.920
could come and be a place for the public to go,

1023
01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:47.399
maybe get together and discuss things that I don't know.

1024
01:45:48.239 --> 01:45:51.960
I wasn't there. I wasn't there. Don't ask me any

1025
01:45:52.000 --> 01:45:59.199
more questions. So that's that's the answer to that question, Michelle.

1026
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:04.239
I hope I've I hope that the answer is everything

1027
01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:12.199
you ever hoped it would be. I'm guessing everyone listening

1028
01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:16.640
to this has social housing where they live, but I

1029
01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:22.239
might be wrong. I know that in America they have

1030
01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:29.119
what do they call it price sort of like a

1031
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:35.439
fixed price in or they used to where you could

1032
01:46:35.479 --> 01:46:41.199
get rent which was legally stuck at a certain price.

1033
01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:51.039
I think I'm wondering if the projects was that social housing.

1034
01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:53.800
I think it was, wasn't it. So it's kind of

1035
01:46:53.920 --> 01:46:57.359
like the projects. I suppose in some parts of America

1036
01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:02.439
the some of the Council of States, so the council

1037
01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:07.039
estate would be where the council blocks were or where

1038
01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:10.239
the you know, the council houses were. So I live

1039
01:47:10.319 --> 01:47:18.239
on a Council of State now, and yeah, so I've

1040
01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:20.960
believed in a few of those over the years. Nineteen

1041
01:47:21.079 --> 01:47:25.560
different council properties I've lived in. I couldn't believe it.

1042
01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:30.840
I've never really really looked into it and added it up.

1043
01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:33.000
I have had it up before, but it never came

1044
01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:39.279
to nineteen. I just remembered a few more than I

1045
01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:43.520
had before, and it might be more than that, but

1046
01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:49.119
nineteen that I have that I can say was pretty

1047
01:47:49.199 --> 01:48:09.600
much definite. Council nineteen nineteen. Wow blimey mm hmmmm. The

1048
01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:20.359
next question is from Kara, What was the absolute happiest

1049
01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:32.760
moment of your life so far? Right? Now right this

1050
01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:38.680
second never been happier. I don't know, to be honest

1051
01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:45.279
with you, I've got no idea happiest moments so far.

1052
01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:54.159
There's a few happy moments. There's some that I can't

1053
01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:58.920
really say. You know, first this and first that was

1054
01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:04.199
quite nice, you know, first experience of certain things. That

1055
01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:08.800
was quite a nice moment. And those were nice moments.

1056
01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:16.159
So but as far as emotionally, okay, there isn't one,

1057
01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:21.039
I don't think, but there's a few, so I'll try

1058
01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:24.439
and think of some. The first one that comes to

1059
01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:29.479
mind was I have talked about this in the past,

1060
01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:32.520
but it's been a little while. It's when I had

1061
01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:40.159
Andre for the first couple of weeks. He absolutely he

1062
01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:44.600
didn't like me, that's an understatement. And I was constantly

1063
01:49:44.680 --> 01:49:49.840
picking him up and he was constantly biting me. There

1064
01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:51.960
was a real issue, you know, he really did not

1065
01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:57.920
I didn't like me, but I kept picking him up

1066
01:49:59.119 --> 01:50:01.880
because I kind of felt that the only way for

1067
01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:04.399
him to get used to me holding him is to

1068
01:50:04.479 --> 01:50:13.439
keep holding him. And ferrets can be really vicious, actually

1069
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:18.359
if they're not, if they don't have human contact, they

1070
01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:22.680
can be a little bit. Yeah, I actually made this

1071
01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:26.319
bloke once in town when I had Andre with me,

1072
01:50:27.399 --> 01:50:29.479
and he told me that he used to have a

1073
01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:35.439
ferret and he would take it. It would never touch

1074
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:41.680
it because it was so wild it would rip into

1075
01:50:41.720 --> 01:50:44.439
his hands. So what he did is he carried it

1076
01:50:44.479 --> 01:50:48.359
around and he walked into pubs and he would bet

1077
01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:51.840
anyone five pound. It'd say, if you can hold my

1078
01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:55.600
ferret for a minute, I'll give you five pound, or

1079
01:50:55.640 --> 01:50:58.520
if you can't, you give me five pound. And he

1080
01:50:58.600 --> 01:51:00.479
said the whole time he did that, no one could

1081
01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:02.319
give him five pound, no one, no one could win

1082
01:51:02.399 --> 01:51:05.119
the five pound because as soon as they picked him up,

1083
01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:10.760
his ferret would bite and scratch them. So I'm not

1084
01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:13.840
sure if you aren't a living doing that, But he

1085
01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:22.359
traveled the world maybe. So here's the thing, Andre. It

1086
01:51:22.479 --> 01:51:24.960
got to the point where Andre would play and he'd

1087
01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:28.560
you know, he's very playful right from the beginning, running

1088
01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:34.760
around exploring and making this his home. But at the

1089
01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:38.159
same time, when I held him, I had to literally

1090
01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:43.520
put my finger and my thumb together around his neck.

1091
01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:48.640
That's how little he was to stop him from biting me.

1092
01:51:50.359 --> 01:51:53.239
You know, I mean it. He could still move around,

1093
01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:59.840
but it was tiny, and it was okay, when he

1094
01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:03.159
was when I wasn't holding him, he didn't try and

1095
01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:06.279
bite me. Then he would try and bite my feet,

1096
01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:09.079
but then he never stopped that. He loved biting my feet.

1097
01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:13.239
He was obsessed with feet. It's a name for that,

1098
01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:22.119
isn't there perverts? It was a pervert. So one day,

1099
01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:24.760
it was a Saturday evening. This is when I was

1100
01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:29.399
still drinking larger at the weekend, which I haven't done

1101
01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.880
for many, many years. So I was sitting down in

1102
01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:38.720
my black squeaky chair that wasn't squeaking yet the other

1103
01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:44.039
side of the room with my little TV on the wall.

1104
01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:47.800
I think it was on the wall, but it was

1105
01:52:47.880 --> 01:52:54.199
a small TV, but my eyesight was able to see

1106
01:52:54.399 --> 01:52:56.720
the TV. In the end, I had to get a

1107
01:52:56.720 --> 01:53:03.920
bigger TV. Well, I suppose I could have got glasses anyway.

1108
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:08.359
So I'm sitting there. I've got a beer can holder

1109
01:53:08.920 --> 01:53:12.760
on the armrest, so I got that there. I think

1110
01:53:12.840 --> 01:53:18.640
that's on my right hand. I got me a blue

1111
01:53:18.760 --> 01:53:22.479
dressing gown on. I got my feet up on the

1112
01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:25.520
because it was a recliner. It was like a lazy boy,

1113
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:29.399
but like a really really cheap version. I think it

1114
01:53:29.439 --> 01:53:33.479
was about one hundred and fifty pounds. But it did

1115
01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:38.760
the trick. It lasted, lasted a few years, it did

1116
01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:46.520
wear out. So I'm just watching the boxing. Very likely

1117
01:53:46.640 --> 01:53:51.520
it was an Anthony Joshua fight or the bill. I

1118
01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:58.560
probably probably watching the undercard. At this point, Andre climbed

1119
01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:03.680
up my leg, climbed onto my waist and you know,

1120
01:54:03.760 --> 01:54:07.000
so I've got the dressing count and I'm thinking I

1121
01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:11.239
got to watch where he's going because there's certain parts

1122
01:54:11.279 --> 01:54:15.720
I didn't want him to buy it. And he climbed

1123
01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:21.960
onto the arm rest and walked up my sleeve, my

1124
01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:26.239
dressing gown sleeve. But he walked up the bottom, so

1125
01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:30.039
I had my hand. I don't know if something he walked. Yeah,

1126
01:54:30.159 --> 01:54:33.000
so he crawled through the bottom of the sleeve. So

1127
01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:38.359
it was he was basically his went to sleep in

1128
01:54:38.479 --> 01:54:47.279
the dressing gown sleeve on my left arm, buried in mind.

1129
01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:53.960
He didn't like me up to this point, and it

1130
01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:57.520
was probably two weeks i'd say, just before this happened.

1131
01:54:58.520 --> 01:55:01.079
I used to have videos of him by me. He

1132
01:55:01.159 --> 01:55:03.319
bit me on the face once. I mean, he just

1133
01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:09.439
really because his teeth was shut razor sharp, especially when

1134
01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:13.239
there's a baby. They were like, oh, it's such a

1135
01:55:13.319 --> 01:55:19.760
strong jaw, so he climbed up, and I thought I

1136
01:55:19.960 --> 01:55:22.920
was just waiting to feel the bite. To be honest,

1137
01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:26.600
I thought he was gonna bite me because when Ferret's bike,

1138
01:55:27.199 --> 01:55:31.319
they do the same thing that crocodiles do and possibly

1139
01:55:31.359 --> 01:55:34.319
sharks do. They do the role, you know, like out

1140
01:55:34.319 --> 01:55:38.439
of the crocodile role. So because he only got he's

1141
01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:42.199
only got little feet, little legs, so they bite and

1142
01:55:42.279 --> 01:55:46.239
then they turn around to rip off. You know, it's

1143
01:55:46.359 --> 01:55:53.039
it's it's not good. But he didn't do that. He

1144
01:55:53.159 --> 01:56:04.399
just went to sleep. And when I realized he was asleep,

1145
01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:08.119
because I kind of a little look down there just

1146
01:56:08.199 --> 01:56:11.720
about I might have got my phone and just you know,

1147
01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:13.880
filmed so I could see where he was. I can't

1148
01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:28.039
remember exactly, and it was so nice. I felt amazing.

1149
01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:39.119
It's almost like I had tamed tamed the world. Donkey.

1150
01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:41.399
I don't know. That's not a good expression, is it,

1151
01:56:42.119 --> 01:56:47.479
But you know it's because he really, I can't express

1152
01:56:47.600 --> 01:56:53.319
enough how much he was trying to take me out

1153
01:56:54.560 --> 01:56:59.039
by biting me. He really wanted me gone. And then

1154
01:57:00.680 --> 01:57:05.239
I think he gave up and he just climbed up

1155
01:57:05.600 --> 01:57:11.279
and made his peace, and from then on we were close, well,

1156
01:57:11.319 --> 01:57:16.840
we were just super close. Never ever tried to bite

1157
01:57:16.880 --> 01:57:20.680
me again ever after that, apart from when we play

1158
01:57:20.800 --> 01:57:26.439
fit went play fit. When we play fighted, he would

1159
01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:31.920
bite me, but it was like playing, and it took

1160
01:57:31.960 --> 01:57:34.079
a little while because he would bite me playing. But

1161
01:57:34.199 --> 01:57:39.720
I could, I say gentle, and as soon as said gentle,

1162
01:57:39.920 --> 01:57:45.199
I'd ease up. So we knew exactly what gentle. I

1163
01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:47.800
don't know how he knew what gentleman, but he just

1164
01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:51.920
knew and so gentle and he just loosened his jaw

1165
01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:54.399
a little bit because he didn't want to hurt me anymore.

1166
01:57:55.359 --> 01:57:59.439
He was just playing. Because we used to have these

1167
01:57:59.479 --> 01:58:02.680
little fire It's like hide and seek and stuff like that.

1168
01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:06.319
One thing we used to like to do is on

1169
01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:12.520
the bed with the so I got a continental quilt,

1170
01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:15.600
kind of a little bit called continental quilts anymore. I

1171
01:58:15.640 --> 01:58:20.600
had a quilt on the bed, and he'd hide under

1172
01:58:20.600 --> 01:58:25.079
the quilt and I'd look for him, and then sometimes

1173
01:58:25.159 --> 01:58:28.880
he'd jump out a different end and he just grabbed me,

1174
01:58:29.079 --> 01:58:32.760
grabbed my hand, and then he'd run off again like

1175
01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:37.800
squeal screech, and then run off again underneath the bed covers,

1176
01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:41.279
or he'd jump off the bed then jump on me

1177
01:58:41.359 --> 01:58:43.680
from a different angle. So we had a lot of

1178
01:58:43.760 --> 01:58:49.239
fun playing like that. But he would bite me, but

1179
01:58:49.359 --> 01:58:52.439
it was it'd be gentle, you know, was he was.

1180
01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:55.319
He never meant to hurt me after that, It was

1181
01:58:55.520 --> 01:58:58.319
it was accidental. He could be a little bit nippy,

1182
01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:06.680
but it was just because he got over excited. And

1183
01:59:10.279 --> 01:59:12.960
it was but that particular occasion, when he climbed up

1184
01:59:13.079 --> 01:59:23.279
my dressing gown sleeve, it felt so nice and I

1185
01:59:23.319 --> 01:59:27.279
didn't want it to end. I didn't want that feeling

1186
01:59:27.439 --> 01:59:31.239
to stop because I felt close, so close to him

1187
01:59:32.359 --> 01:59:34.880
for the first time. Really, I mean, I fell in

1188
01:59:34.960 --> 01:59:37.920
love with him the second I saw him. But he

1189
01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:42.840
didn't feel the same way. He really didn't. He didn't

1190
01:59:42.880 --> 01:59:45.560
want I think he liked being up here because he

1191
01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:47.239
had all his space. It was quite a lot of

1192
01:59:47.279 --> 01:59:49.760
space for a little ferret, and he could do what

1193
01:59:49.840 --> 01:59:54.640
he wanted and you know, he just could run around

1194
01:59:54.760 --> 01:59:58.039
and he could make little nests wherever he wanted, sleep

1195
01:59:58.079 --> 02:00:04.159
where he wanted to sleep. But he wasn't a big

1196
02:00:04.239 --> 02:00:14.239
fan of being picked up. And then when he climbed

1197
02:00:14.319 --> 02:00:18.359
up into you know, into the sleeve, my left sleeve

1198
02:00:18.439 --> 02:00:24.560
of my blue dressing gown. I was sitting there. I

1199
02:00:24.680 --> 02:00:30.840
had my can of lager. Probably I probably had it

1200
02:00:30.920 --> 02:00:36.199
in my right armrest hole. You know where the can went,

1201
02:00:37.560 --> 02:00:41.920
the can of Foster's, actually I can't remember that. And

1202
02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:44.479
I was watching the boxing. But I didn't need to go,

1203
02:00:44.680 --> 02:00:50.359
do we we? Because because I was drinking lager, I

1204
02:00:50.399 --> 02:00:55.199
mean I used to. After the first two cans, that

1205
02:00:55.239 --> 02:00:58.119
would be it. I'd be into in the toilet every

1206
02:00:58.199 --> 02:01:05.359
twenty minutes pretty much. But I didn't want to put

1207
02:01:05.439 --> 02:01:10.000
him down. So what I did is I needed to

1208
02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:14.039
go to the toilet. I held my arm straight so

1209
02:01:14.199 --> 02:01:15.760
that he stayed in there. I think I probably held

1210
02:01:15.800 --> 02:01:19.159
the bottom of the sleeve and I went to the

1211
02:01:19.239 --> 02:01:23.720
toilet while he was still in my sleeve of my

1212
02:01:23.840 --> 02:01:25.600
dressing count because I didn't want to let him go.

1213
02:01:26.479 --> 02:01:33.880
So I thought it felt like a bonding experience. And

1214
02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:36.680
I thought if I woke him up then he jumps off,

1215
02:01:36.840 --> 02:01:43.920
he might have forgotten that he likes me. So I

1216
02:01:44.000 --> 02:01:46.520
did that, and he was in my sleep for at

1217
02:01:46.600 --> 02:01:54.159
least two hours, maybe longer, fast asleep, and from that

1218
02:01:54.279 --> 02:02:00.439
moment on, literally he just his attitude towards me changed

1219
02:02:02.399 --> 02:02:04.680
and he'd climb onto my lap and he cuddle me.

1220
02:02:05.760 --> 02:02:07.520
He'd let me pick him up and never try and

1221
02:02:07.600 --> 02:02:10.800
bite me. If I picked him up, he'd rub his

1222
02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:16.359
face over my beard, he kiss give me kisses. He'd

1223
02:02:16.439 --> 02:02:19.720
let me stroke his tummy, and he'd fall asleep on

1224
02:02:19.800 --> 02:02:24.119
my lap. He'd yeah, it was. He used to sleep

1225
02:02:24.159 --> 02:02:26.880
in the bedroom me. Sometimes he'd sleep on the bed

1226
02:02:26.920 --> 02:02:30.399
when I wasn't there. He loved that. You can't believe

1227
02:02:30.399 --> 02:02:33.239
a little fairy could take up a whole double bed, ridiculous.

1228
02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:38.159
He just stretch right out and because he had his

1229
02:02:38.279 --> 02:02:42.640
tail was quite long. And that was one of my

1230
02:02:43.000 --> 02:02:47.479
happy moments. So I don't have like a one particular

1231
02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:53.960
happiest moment of my life so far. Another really happy

1232
02:02:54.119 --> 02:02:59.960
moment would be when I had a date, my very

1233
02:03:00.279 --> 02:03:04.159
first proper date, when I was eight years old, maybe

1234
02:03:04.279 --> 02:03:09.960
seven to eight, and I had my own room. It's

1235
02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:14.000
the first time I'd ever had my own room. And

1236
02:03:14.119 --> 02:03:17.880
this is We're in the council house that my nany

1237
02:03:17.920 --> 02:03:23.239
grandad moved into when we moved out, so there was

1238
02:03:23.359 --> 02:03:25.840
this It was kind of like a box room really,

1239
02:03:25.960 --> 02:03:27.760
but it was big enough for me because I was

1240
02:03:27.880 --> 02:03:32.640
only little, had a single bed, plenty of room for toys,

1241
02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:36.119
and stuff like that, and we hadn't at this point

1242
02:03:36.239 --> 02:03:38.000
got a lot of toys because we've only been there

1243
02:03:38.039 --> 02:03:42.359
for a year, so we hadn't accrued, you know, years

1244
02:03:42.399 --> 02:03:46.039
and years worth of toys and stuff. Just like it's

1245
02:03:46.119 --> 02:03:50.199
just been like a year, like one Christmas and one birthday,

1246
02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:55.479
I think, maybe yeah, one birthday. So and I had

1247
02:03:55.520 --> 02:03:59.640
this picture of Bruce Lee on the wall. I don't remember.

1248
02:03:59.640 --> 02:04:01.479
I don't know how, I don't know who put it

1249
02:04:01.600 --> 02:04:10.640
up there, but I'm glad they did. And there was

1250
02:04:10.840 --> 02:04:15.359
this one occasion, as I said, I had this a

1251
02:04:15.439 --> 02:04:20.640
Saturday morning. I had a date where I was going

1252
02:04:20.720 --> 02:04:25.439
to go, and in a way, the whole day was

1253
02:04:25.560 --> 02:04:28.439
quite special, but the first bit of the day was

1254
02:04:28.680 --> 02:04:33.239
particularly special because it's just a fond memory that I have.

1255
02:04:34.800 --> 02:04:40.520
So I'm asleep. My dad wakes me up, probably eight

1256
02:04:40.600 --> 02:04:45.560
o'clock because I had to go and get my breakfast,

1257
02:04:45.720 --> 02:04:48.840
and I'm not sure. I think he might have been

1258
02:04:48.880 --> 02:04:54.439
giving me a lift to pick my girlfriend from school

1259
02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:59.520
up to take it to the cinema, but I remember

1260
02:04:59.640 --> 02:05:04.159
he woke me up and I was so excited, so

1261
02:05:04.520 --> 02:05:09.159
excited that I grabbed hold of him and just gave

1262
02:05:09.239 --> 02:05:13.479
him the biggest hug I think I've ever given anyone ever.

1263
02:05:15.239 --> 02:05:25.840
I was so full of happiness and I don't know

1264
02:05:25.920 --> 02:05:28.399
worry really, it's just I don't know, just it's how

1265
02:05:28.439 --> 02:05:31.479
I felt at them in that moment. I felt so much,

1266
02:05:32.880 --> 02:05:40.159
so much, Oh, just happy. I remember that. I've always

1267
02:05:40.199 --> 02:05:50.239
remembered that. What other moments, Oh, there was that time

1268
02:05:50.279 --> 02:05:56.479
when my girlfriend told me she wasn't pregnant. No jacking, uh,

1269
02:05:59.600 --> 02:06:01.239
trying to I'm just going to go through my life

1270
02:06:01.319 --> 02:06:05.239
when there's a hasn't been anything lately, I'll tell you

1271
02:06:07.279 --> 02:06:14.840
h happiest so I can't. There's not one happiest moment,

1272
02:06:17.079 --> 02:06:23.399
but a happy moment. When my dad had an operation

1273
02:06:25.520 --> 02:06:29.399
and survived the operation. That was a happy moment. So

1274
02:06:29.520 --> 02:06:33.640
I was about eleven. He had to have a growth

1275
02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:37.159
from his neck removed and it was this It was

1276
02:06:37.239 --> 02:06:40.960
a benign growth, but it was where it was where

1277
02:06:41.039 --> 02:06:47.359
it was was a real problem. So it's an extremely

1278
02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:55.359
difficult op. But he came through it and it was

1279
02:06:55.600 --> 02:06:59.520
it was good. So that was that was a happy moment.

1280
02:07:03.720 --> 02:07:07.159
I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think of a

1281
02:07:07.279 --> 02:07:13.239
time when I felt I mean, I think sometimes a

1282
02:07:13.399 --> 02:07:18.239
sense of relief can be a sense of happiness. There's

1283
02:07:18.239 --> 02:07:23.479
been times when I've been asleep and I've I dreamt

1284
02:07:23.640 --> 02:07:27.159
that I have to get up and go to the

1285
02:07:27.279 --> 02:07:32.239
job that I had before. And I mean not so

1286
02:07:32.359 --> 02:07:35.840
much now, but back then, shortly after I wasn't you know,

1287
02:07:35.880 --> 02:07:38.920
when I wasn't there anymore, I dreamt about having to

1288
02:07:39.039 --> 02:07:41.840
go in there, and then I woke up and realized

1289
02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:47.680
I didn't. Huge amount of happiness came over me in

1290
02:07:47.800 --> 02:08:04.600
that moment. I'm trying to think, if I start, I can't.

1291
02:08:04.800 --> 02:08:07.199
It's hard to work backwards. So if I go forwards

1292
02:08:08.960 --> 02:08:15.680
happy moments in my life enough. I mean, you know,

1293
02:08:15.920 --> 02:08:19.359
there might have been stuff very early on, because I

1294
02:08:19.399 --> 02:08:23.439
don't remember, so I don't really recall anything nice happening

1295
02:08:24.960 --> 02:08:28.520
in the first year because I was too young, second year,

1296
02:08:28.880 --> 02:08:37.079
third year, fourth year, fifth year. Six now, actually when

1297
02:08:37.119 --> 02:08:41.079
I was about six, it was it wasn't the happiest moment,

1298
02:08:41.119 --> 02:08:43.680
but it was a it was a nice moment. Went

1299
02:08:43.800 --> 02:08:49.680
to watch because part of the when I was in

1300
02:08:49.760 --> 02:08:53.439
a children's home in South End, we used to because

1301
02:08:53.479 --> 02:08:56.800
they've got a big pier there and they've got it,

1302
02:08:57.119 --> 02:09:01.640
you know, they've got like a proper entertainment. Knew their theater.

1303
02:09:04.680 --> 02:09:10.520
I went to see Jack and the bean Stalk, So

1304
02:09:10.960 --> 02:09:14.479
that was that was really good. I enjoyed that, I

1305
02:09:14.600 --> 02:09:20.119
really did. That's like a happy memory from my childhood

1306
02:09:20.720 --> 02:09:30.439
of that period. There is one. There's another one. I

1307
02:09:30.640 --> 02:09:33.560
was watching Planet the Apes that gained the same children's

1308
02:09:33.600 --> 02:09:38.600
home inself and and the care worker because they although

1309
02:09:38.600 --> 02:09:40.880
it was run by nuns, they also had care workers

1310
02:09:40.920 --> 02:09:44.439
come as well. And the care worker I really liked

1311
02:09:44.439 --> 02:09:47.479
her a lot, and we were watching Planet the Apes.

1312
02:09:47.640 --> 02:09:50.119
It was the one where the apes were on horses,

1313
02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:54.800
so I'm not sure which one that was. And she

1314
02:09:54.960 --> 02:09:59.560
was tickling me, not the horses or the apes, the lady,

1315
02:09:59.640 --> 02:10:03.279
the care worker, and she was tickling me, and I

1316
02:10:03.560 --> 02:10:07.680
just I don't think I've ever laughed as much since

1317
02:10:08.920 --> 02:10:14.159
it just I just couldn't stop laughing. It was so lovely.

1318
02:10:14.319 --> 02:10:17.920
I just I mean, in a way, having physical contact

1319
02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:22.319
was quite nice because I didn't have like adults, parents

1320
02:10:22.399 --> 02:10:25.720
or whatever at the time, and the nurses, the nuns

1321
02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:30.119
weren't really particularly there was no hot you know, hand

1322
02:10:30.199 --> 02:10:33.920
holding or cuddles or anything for a nun. So's it

1323
02:10:34.039 --> 02:10:37.760
was quite nice just to have that, have someone that

1324
02:10:37.840 --> 02:10:41.479
I really liked tickling me. I mean, I'm add with

1325
02:10:41.560 --> 02:10:43.600
my own emotions to it now. I mean I think

1326
02:10:43.640 --> 02:10:46.800
at the time I probably just enjoyed being tickled, but

1327
02:10:47.079 --> 02:10:51.920
I was body six six years old and I just

1328
02:10:52.039 --> 02:10:57.119
could not stop laughing. I remember, it's always I remember

1329
02:10:57.159 --> 02:10:59.920
the SETTI the outlay of the house or the room

1330
02:11:00.159 --> 02:11:03.520
I was in. I was on the carpet, and there

1331
02:11:03.600 --> 02:11:05.119
was two of us. I don't know if it was me,

1332
02:11:05.239 --> 02:11:09.439
and it might be my brother, but you know, he

1333
02:11:09.600 --> 02:11:12.239
had his own friends because both my older brothers were

1334
02:11:12.560 --> 02:11:15.439
what they were older than me, but they were one

1335
02:11:15.600 --> 02:11:18.399
was two years older, one was four years older, so

1336
02:11:19.479 --> 02:11:23.439
we didn't really hang out together. But at the same time,

1337
02:11:25.560 --> 02:11:29.359
if you live in a place like that, everyone kind

1338
02:11:29.399 --> 02:11:34.359
of becomes your family. All the other boys and all

1339
02:11:34.399 --> 02:11:39.039
the other girls there. I don't know how many there was,

1340
02:11:39.159 --> 02:11:43.039
maybe fifty, forty thirty, I don't know. I got no

1341
02:11:43.159 --> 02:11:46.000
idea how many there was, maybe one hundred, but they

1342
02:11:46.039 --> 02:11:48.479
were all going to become your family. They like brothers

1343
02:11:48.520 --> 02:11:53.399
and sisters really, And I was in a dormitory with boys,

1344
02:11:54.960 --> 02:11:58.720
and again it might have been there might have been

1345
02:11:58.760 --> 02:12:02.119
different dormitories for and age boys. I can't I really

1346
02:12:02.199 --> 02:12:07.279
can't remember, but they you know, we were washing together,

1347
02:12:07.359 --> 02:12:10.359
we were sleeping together, we were praying together, we were

1348
02:12:10.399 --> 02:12:14.479
going to school together, playing together outside of school, you know,

1349
02:12:14.600 --> 02:12:18.520
so we were kind of all and because we were

1350
02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:22.960
the odd ones out at school, because we were the orphan,

1351
02:12:23.279 --> 02:12:26.920
we were awful an. He's on me, I suppose, so

1352
02:12:27.159 --> 02:12:32.920
we kind of stuck stuck together. So I'm saying so

1353
02:12:33.079 --> 02:12:40.039
a lot. And that's a nice memory. That's that's one

1354
02:12:40.119 --> 02:12:46.840
of the Yeah, it's the only two nice memories I've got,

1355
02:12:48.319 --> 02:13:02.439
probably up to the age of seven. Hmmm. Oh, there

1356
02:13:02.520 --> 02:13:07.680
was another nice memory when my aunt. This is just

1357
02:13:07.760 --> 02:13:10.680
before we moved in with my dad and his new

1358
02:13:10.760 --> 02:13:14.279
wife at the weekend, because they started having us at

1359
02:13:14.319 --> 02:13:18.239
weekends just to get to know us in that and

1360
02:13:19.119 --> 02:13:21.119
my dad didn't know me. He hadn't seen me since

1361
02:13:21.199 --> 02:13:24.680
I was a baby, so I didn't know who he was.

1362
02:13:24.840 --> 02:13:27.239
He didn't know who I was, so it took a

1363
02:13:27.319 --> 02:13:30.159
while for us to kind of him to get to

1364
02:13:30.239 --> 02:13:37.319
know me and stuff. And on this particular weekend, they

1365
02:13:37.359 --> 02:13:39.640
weren't able to have us because I think my dad's

1366
02:13:39.960 --> 02:13:45.239
first wife or second wife, sorry was she was unwell.

1367
02:13:47.159 --> 02:13:50.600
So what happened is my Auntie came across instead and

1368
02:13:50.720 --> 02:13:54.119
took us to London, and we stayed with her and

1369
02:13:54.239 --> 02:13:58.239
her boyfriend in London, and she basically took us out

1370
02:13:58.279 --> 02:14:03.840
for the weekend to all the London sites. Tower of London,

1371
02:14:06.920 --> 02:14:13.239
I suppose, probably the museums, the mad in two sorts.

1372
02:14:14.720 --> 02:14:17.119
Trying to think what other things are in London, but

1373
02:14:17.560 --> 02:14:20.159
you know, we went to quite a few things. That

1374
02:14:20.359 --> 02:14:24.319
was a really good weekend, like a really good weekend,

1375
02:14:25.960 --> 02:14:30.079
So I did. I enjoyed that, And I don't remember

1376
02:14:30.199 --> 02:14:36.600
it like really clearly, but I remember I think my

1377
02:14:37.359 --> 02:14:41.800
Auntie got some winkles. Are they winkles? They're like these

1378
02:14:41.840 --> 02:14:50.399
little fishy things, and I was not eating them, Nope,

1379
02:14:51.319 --> 02:14:54.039
So they were selling them on the st I went

1380
02:14:54.079 --> 02:14:58.359
to Trafalgar Square as well, I remember that, but I

1381
02:14:58.479 --> 02:15:05.119
wasn't having any of that seafood stuff. Yeah. No. And

1382
02:15:05.720 --> 02:15:11.079
other than that, I'm trying to think anything from my

1383
02:15:11.319 --> 02:15:15.560
childhood before that time. I got some memories, but just

1384
02:15:16.119 --> 02:15:28.159
nice memories. I can't think of anything. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

1385
02:15:28.239 --> 02:15:31.439
that was that's a nice memory. It was a nice

1386
02:15:31.520 --> 02:15:35.960
memory of going to the theater. But a happy memory

1387
02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:37.800
would be the one where I was just being tickled.

1388
02:15:38.239 --> 02:15:44.439
That was happy. That was a really Yeah. The thing

1389
02:15:44.680 --> 02:15:48.680
is I wasn't a happy kid. I don't mean this negatively,

1390
02:15:48.800 --> 02:15:54.359
but I didn't really know what happiness was. I didn't

1391
02:15:54.359 --> 02:15:57.600
really you know, it's I was just I suppose I

1392
02:15:57.760 --> 02:16:00.680
had moments when I was laughing around and joking and

1393
02:16:01.600 --> 02:16:07.119
having fun and other times when I wasn't. But everything

1394
02:16:07.279 --> 02:16:13.560
was so unstable for the first seven years that I

1395
02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:17.920
didn't I don't think I really kind of settled, which

1396
02:16:17.960 --> 02:16:21.039
would explain why I haven't settled as an adult, or

1397
02:16:21.079 --> 02:16:32.639
I've moved around so much, perhaps trying to think of something.

1398
02:16:32.879 --> 02:16:36.159
There must be what I'll do. I'll go forward in time,

1399
02:16:36.239 --> 02:16:38.920
but I'll try and still kind of in the back

1400
02:16:38.959 --> 02:16:43.719
of my mind, skin through looking, still searching for if

1401
02:16:43.760 --> 02:16:47.639
there's any happy memories. So at the age of seven,

1402
02:16:52.440 --> 02:17:00.799
moving leaving the children's home like forever, that was a happy,

1403
02:17:01.159 --> 02:17:06.879
happy moment, moving in with my new mom and my

1404
02:17:07.040 --> 02:17:14.239
dad and his and my new mom's grandmother. So I'd

1405
02:17:14.280 --> 02:17:18.200
never really had a grandmother before. In my memory on

1406
02:17:18.319 --> 02:17:22.440
my had my nanny Newland, but I didn't ever didn't

1407
02:17:22.520 --> 02:17:29.079
know who she was until that same period. So you know,

1408
02:17:29.200 --> 02:17:33.120
I was spending more time with my step grandmother because

1409
02:17:33.159 --> 02:17:47.200
she I was living with her. And then there was

1410
02:17:47.360 --> 02:17:49.680
there was a time when my dad taught us to

1411
02:17:49.799 --> 02:17:51.639
ride bikes because we none of us had had a

1412
02:17:51.680 --> 02:17:54.920
bike before. Well I hadn't had a bike before anyway,

1413
02:17:55.680 --> 02:17:58.680
I couldn't ride. I think my oldest brother brother probably

1414
02:17:58.719 --> 02:18:01.200
could ride a bike. He was four years older than me,

1415
02:18:02.000 --> 02:18:04.799
and he probably had had a bike before, but me

1416
02:18:04.959 --> 02:18:09.600
and my other brother hadn't. So my dad was teaching

1417
02:18:09.680 --> 02:18:15.680
us how to ride a bike, and that was that

1418
02:18:15.959 --> 02:18:22.520
was an unusual situation. The thing about it is at

1419
02:18:22.600 --> 02:18:26.559
the time, my dad was so gentle. It was like

1420
02:18:26.639 --> 02:18:30.680
a gentle giant. So my dad's always been a big bloke.

1421
02:18:30.840 --> 02:18:34.040
He's not like usually tall, but he's very wide, very strong,

1422
02:18:35.399 --> 02:18:39.600
and especially when I was little, when I was like

1423
02:18:40.200 --> 02:18:46.040
six seven or seven eight nine, he was just like

1424
02:18:46.120 --> 02:18:50.799
a big, huge bear. But he was also really gentle.

1425
02:18:50.879 --> 02:18:54.159
Back then, he was so softly spoken and had a

1426
02:18:54.239 --> 02:19:00.200
big beard, and he was just he isn't I'm a

1427
02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:04.120
happy memory, but it's it's not specific, but it's something

1428
02:19:04.200 --> 02:19:06.840
that he used to do. He used to let me

1429
02:19:08.319 --> 02:19:12.280
climb onto his neck. And I think the reason for

1430
02:19:12.440 --> 02:19:14.360
that is because no one had ever done that before,

1431
02:19:16.639 --> 02:19:19.959
and I'd seen other kids doing that with their dads,

1432
02:19:21.760 --> 02:19:24.680
so I wanted to do it. And I was the

1433
02:19:24.760 --> 02:19:26.520
only one that was small enough to do it with

1434
02:19:26.600 --> 02:19:31.479
because my other brother was He was two years older

1435
02:19:31.479 --> 02:19:33.559
than me, so at the time, he would have been

1436
02:19:33.600 --> 02:19:40.360
about eighteen, So I was like seven, and I was

1437
02:19:40.440 --> 02:19:45.559
probably still too old. But I was like a little monkey. Honestly,

1438
02:19:45.680 --> 02:19:52.600
I was tiny. I was under undersize. I was probably

1439
02:19:52.639 --> 02:19:55.159
the size of a five year old when I was seven,

1440
02:19:56.639 --> 02:20:00.200
And so he had me on his neck. And the

1441
02:20:00.319 --> 02:20:03.959
thing is, I didn't know right he'd broken his neck

1442
02:20:04.000 --> 02:20:06.600
when he was younger, so me being on his neck

1443
02:20:06.719 --> 02:20:10.000
was really painful for him because he still had issues

1444
02:20:10.040 --> 02:20:12.799
with it. He has his whole life since, so he

1445
02:20:12.879 --> 02:20:16.719
was in his twenties when he broke his neck. So

1446
02:20:18.840 --> 02:20:21.639
but it's still put me on his neck and still

1447
02:20:21.680 --> 02:20:24.879
allowed me to like do all kids do, like pulling

1448
02:20:24.959 --> 02:20:29.559
his hair and all that stuff, and holding on to

1449
02:20:29.639 --> 02:20:32.719
his ears and going come on, guidy up, giddy up.

1450
02:20:34.840 --> 02:20:36.959
I'd see the other kids do it. Plus there was

1451
02:20:36.959 --> 02:20:41.120
a lot of Westerns on TV at the time, and

1452
02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:44.319
eventually he had to say I couldn't do it anymore

1453
02:20:44.360 --> 02:20:47.399
because it was hurting him and I was getting too big,

1454
02:20:48.719 --> 02:20:53.520
which I wasn't. I mean, i'd probably I'm going to

1455
02:20:53.559 --> 02:20:55.399
do the old I'm going to do the same joke again.

1456
02:20:55.680 --> 02:21:04.719
But Dad, I'm only twenty eight, but I remember that

1457
02:21:04.760 --> 02:21:11.479
because I felt safe. He was the only person. See,

1458
02:21:11.479 --> 02:21:14.239
he doesn't know this, and I wish he. If you'd

1459
02:21:14.280 --> 02:21:16.239
have known this, I think it would have changed things.

1460
02:21:17.799 --> 02:21:22.200
But being with him when I was seven was the

1461
02:21:22.280 --> 02:21:26.399
first time in my life that I felt safe. Now,

1462
02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:28.360
I might have felt safe for the foster parents, but

1463
02:21:28.799 --> 02:21:31.920
in my kind of conscious, you know, because I was

1464
02:21:31.959 --> 02:21:35.440
a baby then, so I don't remember, but it was

1465
02:21:35.479 --> 02:21:39.920
the first time that I actually felt to me he

1466
02:21:40.159 --> 02:21:44.639
was as strong as the Hulk. You know, he is

1467
02:21:44.920 --> 02:21:47.120
no way in the world, no one could do anything

1468
02:21:47.159 --> 02:21:50.719
to me. He would protect me, and he was like Superman.

1469
02:21:51.600 --> 02:21:53.079
And I think that's probably a lot A lot of

1470
02:21:53.159 --> 02:21:56.239
kids feel that way about their parents. And my mum

1471
02:21:56.399 --> 02:22:01.399
was wonder woman and she was the first female that

1472
02:22:01.479 --> 02:22:07.200
I bonded with. So I was seven before I bonded

1473
02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:14.280
with a female like mother figure in a proper way.

1474
02:22:14.959 --> 02:22:17.920
And although again, you know, when I was a baby,

1475
02:22:18.120 --> 02:22:21.520
I think I probably had a very very close bond

1476
02:22:21.639 --> 02:22:25.920
to my foster my foster father, but those with them

1477
02:22:25.959 --> 02:22:29.879
for about a year and a half, so I might

1478
02:22:29.920 --> 02:22:32.319
have had some amazing times, but I just don't remember

1479
02:22:32.399 --> 02:22:37.200
them because they wanted to adopt me and my other brother.

1480
02:22:38.319 --> 02:22:43.639
The oldest brother was still living with my grandparents, but

1481
02:22:43.760 --> 02:22:46.959
the foster parents wanted to adopt me and my other brother.

1482
02:22:47.760 --> 02:22:49.680
So they must have loved this, mustn't they. I must

1483
02:22:49.719 --> 02:22:55.319
have really adored us, so I probably had lots of

1484
02:22:55.479 --> 02:22:59.559
you know, I'm sure I had birthday, Birthday, Christmas with them,

1485
02:23:00.559 --> 02:23:06.760
but just don't remember it. But I've never had that

1486
02:23:06.959 --> 02:23:10.520
feeling of safety before. I had the feeling of physical

1487
02:23:10.639 --> 02:23:15.479
safety with my dad and the feeling of emotional safety

1488
02:23:15.920 --> 02:23:19.639
with my new mum, and I've never had either of

1489
02:23:19.719 --> 02:23:25.040
those before. We as in my memory. That is so

1490
02:23:25.200 --> 02:23:29.319
from the age of like maybe four, I don't know

1491
02:23:29.360 --> 02:23:32.239
how many years it was when, I don't know how whatever.

1492
02:23:33.959 --> 02:23:36.000
I don't know how far back you can remember when

1493
02:23:36.040 --> 02:23:41.120
you're six or seven. You can remember further back on't

1494
02:23:41.159 --> 02:23:45.079
you that you can when you're fifty seven. As far

1495
02:23:45.159 --> 02:23:49.200
as like how far back the memory goes, I'm guessing.

1496
02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:58.520
And I had another nice memory. I've got again like this,

1497
02:23:59.239 --> 02:24:01.920
you know, sitting on my dad's neck, not on his neck,

1498
02:24:02.000 --> 02:24:04.440
well it was on his neck, on his shoulders while

1499
02:24:04.680 --> 02:24:07.159
he just sitting on his neck, but I was on

1500
02:24:07.280 --> 02:24:13.799
his shoulders, and I used to on the way back

1501
02:24:13.879 --> 02:24:17.799
from South End. So it was a Friday night, they

1502
02:24:17.959 --> 02:24:19.719
picked us up, and I think they did this for

1503
02:24:19.760 --> 02:24:23.399
about six months. Maybe it might have been three months,

1504
02:24:23.479 --> 02:24:26.559
but it seemed like quite a while, but I don't

1505
02:24:26.600 --> 02:24:29.280
know how long for but every weekend for a period

1506
02:24:29.319 --> 02:24:34.200
of time, my dad and his new wife would pick

1507
02:24:35.520 --> 02:24:37.760
I keep saying new wife because it literally just got

1508
02:24:37.879 --> 02:24:44.239
married about less than a year. So they came. They'd

1509
02:24:44.239 --> 02:24:48.799
pick us up from the South End kids home, and

1510
02:24:49.520 --> 02:24:52.120
we'd drive back, and it was often dark, so it

1511
02:24:52.280 --> 02:24:55.879
wasn't I think. I imagine they were both working, so

1512
02:24:56.600 --> 02:24:59.879
they probably couldn't leave till maybe six, so they get

1513
02:25:00.040 --> 02:25:02.840
to us about seven. We'd get home probably about eight,

1514
02:25:03.319 --> 02:25:09.879
half eight or nine, depending on traffic, I suppose. So

1515
02:25:13.120 --> 02:25:15.399
I don't remember ever being a light when we did it.

1516
02:25:16.520 --> 02:25:20.159
But when we moved there, it was the summer, so

1517
02:25:20.399 --> 02:25:23.479
it's probably the beginning of the year, and then we

1518
02:25:23.639 --> 02:25:28.799
moved in the summer permanently. So what I used to do.

1519
02:25:29.040 --> 02:25:35.879
I used to sit on my new mum's lap. And

1520
02:25:36.520 --> 02:25:40.920
this is before seat belts were a thing, really, you

1521
02:25:41.040 --> 02:25:46.040
know it was. I don't think they were, like, it

1522
02:25:46.239 --> 02:25:48.239
wasn't law that you had to wear a seat belt

1523
02:25:49.120 --> 02:25:51.040
and you can't have a little kid on your lap

1524
02:25:51.079 --> 02:25:59.440
in the front anymore. But back then, I remember, yeah,

1525
02:25:59.479 --> 02:26:02.120
I remember my dad's saying, well, I'm a bit worried

1526
02:26:03.719 --> 02:26:07.159
because you know what's happens to him if we have

1527
02:26:07.280 --> 02:26:11.399
to stop and he and it happens to him. And

1528
02:26:11.520 --> 02:26:14.079
my stepmom said, well, we've got two more, two more

1529
02:26:14.120 --> 02:26:17.120
in the back, aren't we So she didn't say that.

1530
02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:24.600
So I I used to go sleep, and I basically

1531
02:26:24.639 --> 02:26:27.120
I turned into a little baby. I didn't know. I

1532
02:26:27.159 --> 02:26:29.079
didn't turn to a baby, but I'm not turned into

1533
02:26:30.879 --> 02:26:36.600
I suppose I became a kid because if you live

1534
02:26:36.639 --> 02:26:39.319
in a place where if you say, I haven't got

1535
02:26:39.399 --> 02:26:42.520
parents living with you, and you're living in a some

1536
02:26:42.760 --> 02:26:50.200
kind of different place, there's a degree of childishness that

1537
02:26:50.360 --> 02:26:58.000
has to be suspended a little bit. And on those

1538
02:26:58.159 --> 02:27:03.079
journeys I regress back to maybe maybe a younger version

1539
02:27:03.559 --> 02:27:07.079
that needed that, and I'd cuddle up and I'd just

1540
02:27:07.200 --> 02:27:11.399
be Sometimes I'd look I'd look at my brothers through

1541
02:27:11.479 --> 02:27:13.799
the because you know, you've got the two front seats

1542
02:27:13.799 --> 02:27:16.200
and there's the gap and then there's back seats. I'd

1543
02:27:16.280 --> 02:27:19.959
look through and just smile at them. It's like, look

1544
02:27:20.000 --> 02:27:22.159
at look at me. I'm I'm having a cud of

1545
02:27:22.239 --> 02:27:31.879
you're not. But because I was very childish, yeah, I

1546
02:27:31.920 --> 02:27:38.840
remember that that was so cool and it was even

1547
02:27:38.879 --> 02:27:40.959
a time, which is weird because when I was literally

1548
02:27:41.079 --> 02:27:43.799
I was a baby of the family for a year,

1549
02:27:45.719 --> 02:27:48.559
just a year. I got to be a baby for

1550
02:27:48.639 --> 02:27:52.319
a year. I was like wow. And it ended as

1551
02:27:52.319 --> 02:27:54.799
soon as my little brother was born when I was eight.

1552
02:27:56.600 --> 02:28:01.719
But I took full advantage of that and I'd be

1553
02:28:01.840 --> 02:28:08.120
going and I'd like going to my parents' room unable

1554
02:28:08.159 --> 02:28:09.719
to sleep, so I'd end up sleeping in the bed

1555
02:28:09.760 --> 02:28:14.040
with them. And as an adult, I realized that they

1556
02:28:14.079 --> 02:28:17.120
probably didn't want me there, to be fair, but I was.

1557
02:28:17.760 --> 02:28:20.639
I really took to them, both of them really quickly,

1558
02:28:22.360 --> 02:28:27.520
really quickly. There was I just maybe the fact that

1559
02:28:27.639 --> 02:28:30.079
my dad was my dad, and maybe there was that

1560
02:28:31.840 --> 02:28:35.559
unconscious connection because he was my father and I hadn't

1561
02:28:35.559 --> 02:28:38.000
met him before. But you know, I knew him for

1562
02:28:38.079 --> 02:28:40.280
six months of my life, or first three three to

1563
02:28:40.399 --> 02:28:47.040
six months, but I really put all my trust in

1564
02:28:47.239 --> 02:28:53.200
both of them almost instantly. Not instantly, but it took

1565
02:28:53.239 --> 02:28:55.639
a few weeks probably, but you know, eventually I just

1566
02:28:55.719 --> 02:29:00.280
gave myself in to the whole experience and was a

1567
02:29:00.360 --> 02:29:02.879
baby for a year or I was the baby of

1568
02:29:02.920 --> 02:29:11.559
the family, and yeah, that was just amazing. So that

1569
02:29:12.079 --> 02:29:15.000
that whole year probably would I would put that down

1570
02:29:15.079 --> 02:29:20.639
as being the happiest time of my life. With that

1571
02:29:21.120 --> 02:29:25.040
year between seven and eight would be the happiest time

1572
02:29:25.079 --> 02:29:32.239
of my life because for the first time I had stability.

1573
02:29:34.559 --> 02:29:38.360
I wasn't I know, it's only a year, but I

1574
02:29:38.440 --> 02:29:40.600
wasn't moving around all the time, because there was times

1575
02:29:40.600 --> 02:29:43.079
when I was just constantly on the move when I

1576
02:29:43.200 --> 02:29:50.959
was little, really little, and I was making friends at

1577
02:29:51.040 --> 02:29:54.399
school for the first time because I was at school

1578
02:29:54.440 --> 02:29:57.360
for long enough and I was just one of the

1579
02:29:58.000 --> 02:30:01.360
other kids. There was no I wasn't a weird kid

1580
02:30:01.479 --> 02:30:06.879
from the the orphanage, you know, I was just so

1581
02:30:07.760 --> 02:30:12.079
that was nice. I had a little girlfriend was just

1582
02:30:12.200 --> 02:30:23.079
before I turned eight, and pretty much me and my

1583
02:30:23.200 --> 02:30:27.639
two brothers gotten quite well as well. That changed, but

1584
02:30:28.639 --> 02:30:31.399
especially when we moved into the bigger house. But for

1585
02:30:31.799 --> 02:30:34.440
that year, I would say we all got on quite well.

1586
02:30:35.680 --> 02:30:40.280
There is arguments, but it just standard. The thing is,

1587
02:30:43.600 --> 02:30:47.399
up to the age of seven, my oldest brother was

1588
02:30:47.600 --> 02:30:51.760
like a father to me. Ridiculous when you think that

1589
02:30:51.879 --> 02:30:59.440
he was eleven years old at that point. So for

1590
02:30:59.680 --> 02:31:08.159
years is yeah, when I was five, so he'd be nine.

1591
02:31:08.239 --> 02:31:10.520
So when I was about five, let's say five. I'm

1592
02:31:10.559 --> 02:31:15.040
just thinking. As far as remembering, I don't have specific

1593
02:31:15.200 --> 02:31:19.639
dates for these periods. So we were left in the flat.

1594
02:31:20.200 --> 02:31:23.760
My biological mother would leave us at home and this

1595
02:31:23.840 --> 02:31:28.120
would be in the tower block, I suppose, and she'd

1596
02:31:28.600 --> 02:31:35.680
go out for I don't know how long long periods

1597
02:31:35.680 --> 02:31:38.440
of time, and she would leave my little brother in

1598
02:31:38.559 --> 02:31:41.639
charge of both me and my other brother. So he

1599
02:31:41.840 --> 02:31:46.040
was my oldest brother was nine years old, and then

1600
02:31:46.079 --> 02:31:48.399
there was a seven year old and a five year old.

1601
02:31:49.239 --> 02:31:51.719
To leave a nine year old in charge of two

1602
02:31:51.840 --> 02:31:54.280
little kids when the nine year old is also a

1603
02:31:54.360 --> 02:32:00.360
little kid. Honestly, I've got my friend's daughter. So my

1604
02:32:00.479 --> 02:32:04.440
neighbor's daughter, Arena call and she's nine and she looks

1605
02:32:04.440 --> 02:32:08.680
about five to me, And to think that she someone

1606
02:32:08.760 --> 02:32:13.399
of her age would be in charge looking after two

1607
02:32:13.479 --> 02:32:18.680
other kids, in charge of them being fed, in charge

1608
02:32:18.719 --> 02:32:24.719
of making sure they're safe. It's like, it's absolutely ridiculous,

1609
02:32:26.159 --> 02:32:31.639
but that's that's how it was. So he looked after us.

1610
02:32:33.079 --> 02:32:35.440
So he was a lot older in his head than

1611
02:32:35.879 --> 02:32:41.000
a nine year old he was. Yeah, he was just

1612
02:32:41.239 --> 02:32:52.360
more mature. So when I got to seven, suddenly he

1613
02:32:52.600 --> 02:32:57.200
wasn't the boss anymore. We didn't have to do what

1614
02:32:57.280 --> 02:33:00.479
he said because for years we were doing told us

1615
02:33:01.799 --> 02:33:05.639
he was, he was the king, and not that it was.

1616
02:33:05.760 --> 02:33:08.040
It wasn't horrible, but you know, if he told us

1617
02:33:08.079 --> 02:33:13.360
to do something, especially me, I'd just do it. And

1618
02:33:13.479 --> 02:33:19.440
I looked up to him as a I suppose in

1619
02:33:19.559 --> 02:33:21.440
a way, he was kind of like a hero to me.

1620
02:33:21.879 --> 02:33:26.639
I wanted to be like him. I was very different

1621
02:33:26.680 --> 02:33:30.760
from to my other brother, my second brother, well you know,

1622
02:33:30.920 --> 02:33:34.239
the one just above me two years were such different people.

1623
02:33:34.920 --> 02:33:38.120
But I kind of felt I was similar to my

1624
02:33:38.200 --> 02:33:43.760
oldest brother a little bit. I'm not sure if I am,

1625
02:33:43.840 --> 02:33:49.360
but I think that that changed because he went from

1626
02:33:49.440 --> 02:33:56.159
being our I guess our father in a sense to

1627
02:33:56.360 --> 02:33:59.760
being a little kid, which is what he was in

1628
02:34:00.239 --> 02:34:02.920
he was eleven years old, at this point, he was

1629
02:34:03.000 --> 02:34:06.399
just a kid and he hadn't had a chance to

1630
02:34:06.479 --> 02:34:10.000
be a kid, and none of us had really, none

1631
02:34:10.040 --> 02:34:12.959
of us had had a childhood, not written or proper childhood,

1632
02:34:13.559 --> 02:34:19.040
so up up to that point. I mean, so it's

1633
02:34:19.040 --> 02:34:21.079
a very strange thing. I don't think any of us

1634
02:34:21.120 --> 02:34:27.280
really knew how to deal with it. I just I

1635
02:34:27.360 --> 02:34:30.920
think I just I went in. I just chucked myself

1636
02:34:31.000 --> 02:34:36.520
into it head first. You know. I saw an opportunity

1637
02:34:36.600 --> 02:34:42.000
to have a mum, and to have it was for me,

1638
02:34:42.360 --> 02:34:45.559
just the idea of having that. This has got nothing

1639
02:34:45.559 --> 02:34:47.360
to do with a question and what am I talking about?

1640
02:34:47.479 --> 02:34:52.239
Blind me? I don't know. I to go on, don't

1641
02:34:52.280 --> 02:34:59.879
I So to me, this was an opportunity to really

1642
02:35:02.360 --> 02:35:06.799
to feel safe with my dad because he was amazing

1643
02:35:06.879 --> 02:35:16.479
at that point. Is it was like a little not romantic,

1644
02:35:16.520 --> 02:35:20.559
because that's not the right word. Fairy tale, maybe like

1645
02:35:21.120 --> 02:35:25.879
a perfect scenario. There was a few issues because we

1646
02:35:26.079 --> 02:35:30.600
was all rough, like we were rough. We'd come from

1647
02:35:31.840 --> 02:35:34.639
rough stock, as it were, so we had to be

1648
02:35:34.760 --> 02:35:39.559
tamed a little bit. But other than that, it was

1649
02:35:41.600 --> 02:35:46.840
it's kind of really nice year. And at the age

1650
02:35:46.879 --> 02:35:52.319
of seven, a year is a long time a heck

1651
02:35:52.360 --> 02:35:56.319
of a long time now at ninety three years old.

1652
02:35:57.239 --> 02:36:01.360
A year is I mean that that's a poo Now

1653
02:36:01.600 --> 02:36:06.280
that's just a pooh, that's a toilet break. A yeah, wow,

1654
02:36:06.319 --> 02:36:13.799
it's nothing. So so that was a nice I mean,

1655
02:36:13.879 --> 02:36:17.239
that was the happiest moment. That was a year. It

1656
02:36:17.360 --> 02:36:19.719
wasn't all happy, but you know, that was kind of

1657
02:36:19.799 --> 02:36:22.799
a hello dog, he keeps looking up at me when

1658
02:36:22.840 --> 02:36:28.639
you want vinn Vin. That was a nice elongated period

1659
02:36:28.719 --> 02:36:34.760
of time where I just remember some things. So, yeah,

1660
02:36:34.799 --> 02:36:39.319
it wasn't all. It wasn't perfect, but it was a

1661
02:36:39.399 --> 02:36:43.719
heck of a lot better than what we'd had before. However,

1662
02:36:43.879 --> 02:36:46.879
I had the I had the tendency of saying the

1663
02:36:46.920 --> 02:36:53.079
wrong thing. I apparently still do. And there was one

1664
02:36:53.159 --> 02:36:55.520
moment and I don't know I really even today, I

1665
02:36:55.680 --> 02:36:59.639
kind of struggle a little bit with white upset. But

1666
02:37:02.040 --> 02:37:04.360
I think my step mom she had a tendency of

1667
02:37:04.440 --> 02:37:08.520
being a little bit too honest with reasons for stuff,

1668
02:37:09.159 --> 02:37:12.840
Like I asked for something and she said, oh, we

1669
02:37:12.920 --> 02:37:21.399
can't afford it. And the thing is, I didn't know.

1670
02:37:21.479 --> 02:37:25.840
I never had anything before, and because I were given

1671
02:37:25.959 --> 02:37:29.239
us things, it is like I suppose I got into

1672
02:37:29.319 --> 02:37:32.079
the that mode of like, oh, perhaps what else can

1673
02:37:32.159 --> 02:37:38.639
I have? Because I mean, the only present I ever

1674
02:37:38.719 --> 02:37:42.040
got from my actual biological mom that I remember was

1675
02:37:42.120 --> 02:37:45.879
when I was in Newcastle Children's Home. It was my

1676
02:37:46.000 --> 02:37:52.479
birthday and I woke up and my mom had been

1677
02:37:52.840 --> 02:37:55.159
I didn't see her, but she had popped in and

1678
02:37:55.280 --> 02:37:57.520
she'd left me a birthday present, which was a box

1679
02:37:57.600 --> 02:38:04.719
of more teasers like more tesus. It's a bit of

1680
02:38:04.719 --> 02:38:07.600
a crap present. Sorry, there's a bit of a crap

1681
02:38:07.680 --> 02:38:12.399
birthday present, it really is. And that's the only Birthday

1682
02:38:12.440 --> 02:38:16.159
present I ever remember getting from a or Christmas present.

1683
02:38:18.159 --> 02:38:25.520
It's really my first proper Christmas in my memory would

1684
02:38:25.559 --> 02:38:30.959
be nineteen seventy seven, so I was seven before I

1685
02:38:31.040 --> 02:38:36.600
had an actual Christmas celebrations, like a proper one. I mean,

1686
02:38:36.639 --> 02:38:41.000
I did have Christmases at the Children's home, but wouldn't

1687
02:38:41.000 --> 02:38:46.479
recommend it. If you get invited to one, probably say no,

1688
02:38:47.479 --> 02:38:52.000
oh wow no. And I'm sure I had a Christmas

1689
02:38:52.040 --> 02:38:54.360
when I was fostered, but I don't remember that I

1690
02:38:54.559 --> 02:38:58.920
was a baby, and I have no recollection of Christmases

1691
02:38:59.040 --> 02:39:05.639
or birthdays when I was in like living with the

1692
02:39:05.799 --> 02:39:13.879
first mother and her husband, so yeah, that was. I'm

1693
02:39:13.920 --> 02:39:20.399
trying to think of some other nice memories. Hmmm mm

1694
02:39:20.520 --> 02:39:25.719
hmmmmm mmmmmm. When I got my TV. When I got

1695
02:39:25.920 --> 02:39:32.159
my first television, black and white television, I was fourteen.

1696
02:39:32.319 --> 02:39:39.920
I think, oh my goodness, I must have been fourteen,

1697
02:39:39.959 --> 02:39:44.079
because I was fifteen when we left, when I moved

1698
02:39:44.120 --> 02:39:46.959
out of there, so I must have been couldn't have

1699
02:39:47.000 --> 02:39:51.639
been more than a year. So I was fourteen, and

1700
02:39:51.680 --> 02:39:53.959
I had this black and white TV, and I was

1701
02:39:54.000 --> 02:39:58.159
watching Cheers for the first time. I was watching Mash

1702
02:39:58.360 --> 02:40:01.520
for the first time. TV programs that I wasn't on

1703
02:40:01.520 --> 02:40:03.680
allowed to stay up to watch I was now watching

1704
02:40:04.399 --> 02:40:06.239
so I could watch TV two in the morning if

1705
02:40:06.280 --> 02:40:17.799
I wanted to. It was bliss, absolutely phenomenal. I was.

1706
02:40:18.680 --> 02:40:21.280
I used to look forward to getting home just so

1707
02:40:21.360 --> 02:40:24.399
I could watch TV. I didn't want to go downstairs anymore,

1708
02:40:25.319 --> 02:40:28.120
you know, I could watch TV and be on my own.

1709
02:40:29.760 --> 02:40:34.280
Two of my favorite things that was being on my

1710
02:40:34.399 --> 02:40:38.399
own and watching TV. It kind of still is, to

1711
02:40:38.479 --> 02:40:41.079
be honest, although I don't watch TV anymore. I do

1712
02:40:41.200 --> 02:40:44.600
watch a TV, but you know, I stream stuff now.

1713
02:40:44.639 --> 02:40:48.120
I don't really watch what's on the actual television itself.

1714
02:40:49.319 --> 02:40:59.600
Hardly ever. Yes, so that that was an amazing yeah, period,

1715
02:41:00.079 --> 02:41:07.239
that was so good. So that that was a happy moment.

1716
02:41:10.200 --> 02:41:18.280
I'm trying to think little happy moments. I'm trying to

1717
02:41:18.319 --> 02:41:22.639
think of good news. Well, I've had good news. Phinny's

1718
02:41:22.760 --> 02:41:27.200
being very You're licking my hand. You want a bit

1719
02:41:27.239 --> 02:41:35.799
of attention, You're a bit of daddy attention. Then huh yeah, okay, Yeah,

1720
02:41:35.799 --> 02:41:42.280
I'm trying to think something. When did I ever get

1721
02:41:42.280 --> 02:41:50.159
any good news when I was a kid. I think

1722
02:41:50.239 --> 02:41:53.360
it was exciting when my little brother come home when

1723
02:41:53.399 --> 02:41:56.719
he was born. That was probably exciting because I've never

1724
02:41:56.799 --> 02:42:03.079
seen a baby before happy. I'm not sure if I

1725
02:42:03.120 --> 02:42:07.520
would say I was happy, because I suppose I probably

1726
02:42:07.520 --> 02:42:11.959
didn't even like him because he ended my childhood in

1727
02:42:12.040 --> 02:42:14.879
a sense, that's how I felt. I think I was

1728
02:42:14.959 --> 02:42:18.280
no longer the baby, so and I only had a

1729
02:42:18.360 --> 02:42:20.799
year of it. I wouldn't if I had seven years

1730
02:42:20.840 --> 02:42:23.079
of it. I probably would have thought, well, it's kind

1731
02:42:23.120 --> 02:42:25.840
of time to retire anyway. Now, give someone else an

1732
02:42:25.879 --> 02:42:29.079
opportunity to be the baby of the family. But no

1733
02:42:30.319 --> 02:42:37.159
one year. One year to be a baby. But I did.

1734
02:42:37.479 --> 02:42:40.000
I always got on with him, so I did care

1735
02:42:40.079 --> 02:42:44.520
about him. Some of the funniest moments of my childhood

1736
02:42:44.520 --> 02:42:47.319
probably was my little brother. Some of the things that

1737
02:42:47.399 --> 02:42:49.719
he did, some of the things he said very funny

1738
02:42:50.280 --> 02:42:52.000
when he was growing up, you know, for the first

1739
02:42:52.239 --> 02:42:56.319
few years of his life, it was hilarious. So that

1740
02:42:56.520 --> 02:43:05.280
was funny. Just trying to move forward. Or when I

1741
02:43:05.559 --> 02:43:09.239
did my gradings at Karate, so I got a first

1742
02:43:09.319 --> 02:43:12.520
class pass in all my gradings. So they were all

1743
02:43:12.559 --> 02:43:27.280
these nice moments, happy moments and hmm, Vin, he's made

1744
02:43:27.360 --> 02:43:31.120
some weird noises. He's just staring at me, but he's

1745
02:43:31.159 --> 02:43:33.680
facing the other way, but he's staring at me. I

1746
02:43:33.760 --> 02:43:35.879
think he wants me to tickle his tummy. Is that

1747
02:43:35.959 --> 02:43:37.719
what you want with him? I want to tiggle with

1748
02:43:37.760 --> 02:43:41.239
your tummy? You want to your tummy? You want to

1749
02:43:41.280 --> 02:43:44.040
tell me to cold? You mean to tell me to cold? Hey,

1750
02:43:45.280 --> 02:43:53.360
h m hmm. He wants to play. That's what he

1751
02:43:53.440 --> 02:43:55.680
wants to do, don't you. You want a big pay play.

1752
02:43:56.079 --> 02:44:03.840
You want a big play play? Going forward? What leaving school?

1753
02:44:06.600 --> 02:44:15.040
Anything nice happened at school? Mm hmmm. Happiest thing that

1754
02:44:15.159 --> 02:44:26.840
happened at school? No, probably those moments where I fell

1755
02:44:26.879 --> 02:44:30.920
in love with someone, so I'd be looking forward to

1756
02:44:31.040 --> 02:44:34.159
seeing them. That was you know, those moments were quite happy,

1757
02:44:34.639 --> 02:44:41.639
but it was never fulfilled, as in it was but

1758
02:44:41.879 --> 02:44:47.239
always one way traffic, generally always generally Yeah, it was

1759
02:44:47.559 --> 02:44:51.479
me falling in love with them and then telling me

1760
02:44:51.600 --> 02:45:00.879
to go away. That's often how it worked. There was

1761
02:45:01.040 --> 02:45:04.360
one pit we was quite happy, a quite a happy moment.

1762
02:45:05.159 --> 02:45:10.319
There was this girl that was she didn't like well,

1763
02:45:10.399 --> 02:45:14.399
she was basically for some reason, she was outside the

1764
02:45:14.520 --> 02:45:18.639
school that I went to to do karate, which was

1765
02:45:18.680 --> 02:45:22.440
a different school, and she just followed me in and

1766
02:45:22.600 --> 02:45:28.040
started kicking my stuff around, my karate stuff like the

1767
02:45:28.120 --> 02:45:33.360
pads and stuff around the floor outside the school because

1768
02:45:33.360 --> 02:45:36.079
it was locked at the time. So I used to

1769
02:45:36.159 --> 02:45:41.520
like to get there early and I couldn't do anything

1770
02:45:41.559 --> 02:45:45.600
to it because she was a girl and she just

1771
02:45:46.159 --> 02:45:49.719
took advantage of that situation. But I didn't understand why

1772
02:45:49.799 --> 02:45:53.719
she was being so horrible. Well, she followed me in

1773
02:45:54.680 --> 02:45:59.639
and she watched a karate and she was nice to

1774
02:45:59.760 --> 02:46:02.799
me ever since. So when she saw me in action,

1775
02:46:04.280 --> 02:46:06.000
I'm not saying I was good, but she saw that

1776
02:46:06.120 --> 02:46:10.079
I kind of was real. You know, I was really

1777
02:46:10.200 --> 02:46:14.040
doing it. I wasn't just pretending to do it. And

1778
02:46:15.920 --> 02:46:19.159
she became a friend, and she became like really really

1779
02:46:19.239 --> 02:46:23.000
nice to me, which is weird, and I think I

1780
02:46:23.079 --> 02:46:26.760
might fall in love with her, and she said go away.

1781
02:46:29.760 --> 02:46:36.120
Trying to think what other nice what other situations. Yeah,

1782
02:46:36.159 --> 02:46:38.559
I did ask someone out. This might be the same person,

1783
02:46:39.200 --> 02:46:42.719
but I asked her out. We were in drama together

1784
02:46:42.799 --> 02:46:45.479
and we were running around and playing and stuff. So

1785
02:46:45.520 --> 02:46:48.559
I would have been about fourteen at the time, and

1786
02:46:48.680 --> 02:46:51.360
I asked her out and she said, I'll tell you Mona,

1787
02:46:51.360 --> 02:46:55.159
I'll tell you next week. She said, I'll take this

1788
02:46:55.280 --> 02:47:01.239
is a Friday night or Friday afternoon double drama. She said,

1789
02:47:01.239 --> 02:47:04.719
I'll tell you Monday. And then someone said, but it's

1790
02:47:04.799 --> 02:47:10.360
bank holiday. Monday is a bank Yes, half term next week,

1791
02:47:13.200 --> 02:47:16.000
and she said, I'll tell you when we get back

1792
02:47:16.040 --> 02:47:22.159
from half term. So that week was an exciting week

1793
02:47:22.399 --> 02:47:25.319
because all I could think about was her and how

1794
02:47:25.360 --> 02:47:27.360
we were going to fall in love and get married

1795
02:47:27.440 --> 02:47:33.559
and she might let me hold hands with her, that's it.

1796
02:47:34.440 --> 02:47:42.879
And during that half week that half term, I'm walking

1797
02:47:42.920 --> 02:47:48.760
along the prom with my friend and she walks up

1798
02:47:48.959 --> 02:47:52.719
and she's holding hands with some bloke or some lad

1799
02:47:53.559 --> 02:47:57.079
and she says, he loo to me and the blokes saying,

1800
02:47:57.079 --> 02:48:00.239
we are you looking at are you talking to like

1801
02:48:00.559 --> 02:48:06.840
trying to act tough, and I just like, I don't

1802
02:48:06.840 --> 02:48:08.959
know if I laughed at him, but it's like okay.

1803
02:48:10.280 --> 02:48:16.239
And the next Monday, first of all, was when I

1804
02:48:16.280 --> 02:48:19.000
saw her. She said, well, I aldly knew she had

1805
02:48:19.040 --> 02:48:21.000
a boyfriend. So it was obviously there was a no,

1806
02:48:21.200 --> 02:48:23.920
wasn't it because she was holding hand with his boy

1807
02:48:26.639 --> 02:48:30.479
He came up to me because he was new. He's

1808
02:48:30.559 --> 02:48:34.879
just been expelled from his last school for fighting. He

1809
02:48:35.000 --> 02:48:37.600
came up to me and he said, I's got to

1810
02:48:37.639 --> 02:48:41.479
tell you I'm sorry for how I acted with you

1811
02:48:41.559 --> 02:48:46.319
the other day. I didn't. I was like wow, And

1812
02:48:46.440 --> 02:48:52.159
we ended up being friends. So that was strange. So

1813
02:48:52.280 --> 02:48:57.040
I think she must have told him off. So that

1814
02:48:57.200 --> 02:48:59.920
was But that was a period when I really looking

1815
02:49:00.000 --> 02:49:02.920
looking forward to going back to school, and that's an

1816
02:49:04.280 --> 02:49:12.680
an unnatural act for me. That was mind you. Sometimes

1817
02:49:14.239 --> 02:49:18.280
I would on the first day of school, I would

1818
02:49:18.319 --> 02:49:23.559
get excited because I would decide that I was going

1819
02:49:23.639 --> 02:49:26.920
to really put some effort in. You know, I'd have

1820
02:49:27.000 --> 02:49:34.200
a new new pencil sharp now and pens and pads,

1821
02:49:34.440 --> 02:49:41.200
and I'd really be positive about school and I was

1822
02:49:41.280 --> 02:49:43.280
going to put some effort in and I was going

1823
02:49:43.399 --> 02:49:46.600
to do well and my parents would be proud of me.

1824
02:49:46.799 --> 02:49:54.159
And and then I'd go to school and after by lunchtime,

1825
02:49:54.959 --> 02:50:00.520
I'd pretty much quit because I just didn't like it.

1826
02:50:00.600 --> 02:50:05.840
There nothing. It was just I wasn't interested in anything

1827
02:50:05.879 --> 02:50:11.840
that they were saying to me. They're just boring that

1828
02:50:12.120 --> 02:50:19.399
the environment was boring the in most of the classes.

1829
02:50:20.479 --> 02:50:24.959
I mean, history is not boring, is it. Geography is

1830
02:50:25.000 --> 02:50:30.159
not really boring either, but the way it was presented

1831
02:50:30.799 --> 02:50:35.280
just it was just used to send me to sleep.

1832
02:50:36.280 --> 02:50:40.840
I'd always be at the back of the class if

1833
02:50:40.879 --> 02:50:44.520
I could be, so that I could just zone out,

1834
02:50:45.840 --> 02:50:50.280
and then I would if there was a clock, I'd

1835
02:50:50.319 --> 02:50:54.360
stare at the clock or stair out the window. As

1836
02:50:54.399 --> 02:50:58.639
I got older and as I realized I didn't care,

1837
02:50:59.079 --> 02:51:01.200
and as a teachers, really I didn't care and I

1838
02:51:01.280 --> 02:51:06.440
was uncontrollable. They left me alone and I just take magazines.

1839
02:51:06.680 --> 02:51:11.760
I'd be looking at kung through magazine, bodybuilding magazines, or

1840
02:51:11.879 --> 02:51:15.719
reading a book and they just lead me to get

1841
02:51:15.760 --> 02:51:18.159
on with it. Because when I was doing that, I

1842
02:51:18.280 --> 02:51:25.280
wasn't disturbing the class, wasn't being disruptive. So that was

1843
02:51:26.920 --> 02:51:29.239
Sometimes I'd make an effort and say we need to

1844
02:51:29.319 --> 02:51:32.360
do your homework. Where's your homework. I'll bring it in tomorrow.

1845
02:51:32.920 --> 02:51:36.760
I'll think, okay, and then they'd forget about it because

1846
02:51:36.840 --> 02:51:38.360
they knew that I wasn't going to bring it in,

1847
02:51:39.399 --> 02:51:42.000
and if occasionally they had to get a bit tough

1848
02:51:42.079 --> 02:51:44.000
with me and say, well we need your homework. You

1849
02:51:44.040 --> 02:51:47.600
can't just not do it. I just write down some

1850
02:51:47.760 --> 02:51:50.680
kind of rubbish on a piece of paper and hand

1851
02:51:50.760 --> 02:51:56.200
that in. So I never I think the only time

1852
02:51:56.200 --> 02:52:00.399
I put effort into school was once, and it was

1853
02:52:00.520 --> 02:52:03.799
the class, the English class, in the very first year,

1854
02:52:04.360 --> 02:52:07.360
because I went in with a very good attitude the

1855
02:52:07.520 --> 02:52:12.760
very first year, and I was my form tutor, was

1856
02:52:12.840 --> 02:52:18.959
the English, the English teacher, the main English teacher, and

1857
02:52:20.959 --> 02:52:23.000
that was where I stayed when I went in the

1858
02:52:23.079 --> 02:52:25.479
first thing in the morning, and then went in last

1859
02:52:25.520 --> 02:52:28.200
thing and during the days you know, to be registered

1860
02:52:28.239 --> 02:52:33.120
in and out. And he was my English teacher as well.

1861
02:52:36.799 --> 02:52:41.079
I've told this story before, but I don't know if

1862
02:52:41.079 --> 02:52:43.399
it's the very first day or second day, but he

1863
02:52:43.479 --> 02:52:47.719
gave us homework. We're reading this Grendel was at Grendel

1864
02:52:50.600 --> 02:52:54.159
some kind of a book. It's a very old I

1865
02:52:54.200 --> 02:52:57.319
think it's a poet poem. It was a very old book.

1866
02:52:59.760 --> 02:53:03.399
Read it. I think we read the first chapter and

1867
02:53:03.520 --> 02:53:10.639
we took turns reading it, and then he said go home.

1868
02:53:13.040 --> 02:53:15.239
And then he shouted, not yet, Jason, come back. I'm

1869
02:53:15.280 --> 02:53:20.559
not finished a sentence. And he said, when the bell goes,

1870
02:53:22.600 --> 02:53:28.399
here's the homework for tomorrow. Just write what you think

1871
02:53:28.520 --> 02:53:31.600
is going to happen next. We've read up to chapter

1872
02:53:31.680 --> 02:53:35.719
one or chapter two, whatever. Just just write a story

1873
02:53:36.200 --> 02:53:39.639
what you think is going to happen next. So I

1874
02:53:39.760 --> 02:53:42.959
came home. I spent probably two three hours doing that.

1875
02:53:44.200 --> 02:53:50.000
I really really believed that it was good work. So

1876
02:53:50.120 --> 02:53:52.959
I handed it in the next day, went in looking

1877
02:53:53.000 --> 02:53:55.760
forward to going into school that day, handed it in

1878
02:53:56.040 --> 02:54:02.920
and they were handing. He handed them back with grades,

1879
02:54:05.680 --> 02:54:10.479
and he called me over to the table. I'm not

1880
02:54:10.520 --> 02:54:12.239
sure if he said it in front of everyone else,

1881
02:54:12.360 --> 02:54:17.159
but he said, what was that? So? What do you mean? So?

1882
02:54:17.600 --> 02:54:22.200
What was that nonsense you wrote down? I said, it's

1883
02:54:22.479 --> 02:54:25.360
you know, you said, write down what thing's going to

1884
02:54:25.399 --> 02:54:31.239
happen next. And apparently we weren't supposed to use our

1885
02:54:31.399 --> 02:54:35.399
creative minds. We you know, we were supposed to stick

1886
02:54:35.600 --> 02:54:41.120
to the topic, which I didn't do. I think I did.

1887
02:54:41.200 --> 02:54:43.719
And then it because it's about a monster, isn't it.

1888
02:54:44.239 --> 02:54:46.239
I think Grendall or I think the name of it.

1889
02:54:46.559 --> 02:54:52.399
It's about a monster and like a King Arthur type

1890
02:54:52.479 --> 02:54:58.040
person who's who slays the monster. But then I started

1891
02:54:58.040 --> 02:55:04.239
talking about vampires and us and Curly Worthies, and yeah,

1892
02:55:04.239 --> 02:55:06.600
I just kind of, I guess I moved a little

1893
02:55:06.639 --> 02:55:11.559
bit away from the actual story and told a different story. However,

1894
02:55:12.319 --> 02:55:14.600
in my defense, I didn't know how the story was

1895
02:55:14.680 --> 02:55:16.520
going to end because it was only read like one

1896
02:55:16.639 --> 02:55:20.079
chapter or maybe two chapters, so I could have gone

1897
02:55:20.399 --> 02:55:25.360
in the direction that I had. They might not have

1898
02:55:27.799 --> 02:55:34.120
invented a plane. I don't know, it could be anything.

1899
02:55:36.159 --> 02:55:41.520
Perhaps perhaps he the monster didn't turn into chocolate and

1900
02:55:41.680 --> 02:55:46.559
melt and everyone just ate him because it was tasty.

1901
02:55:46.879 --> 02:55:53.280
I don't know. So apparently I got marked down really low,

1902
02:55:53.479 --> 02:55:58.239
and he said it was it wasn't a complimentary. What

1903
02:55:58.360 --> 02:56:03.920
he said to me wasn't complimentary at all. And after

1904
02:56:04.000 --> 02:56:09.799
that I thought, you know what, and that's what you know?

1905
02:56:09.840 --> 02:56:15.600
I just like nah done, And that was the end

1906
02:56:15.639 --> 02:56:20.559
of my academic career at school. Nipped in the bud

1907
02:56:21.639 --> 02:56:25.239
probably two days in of the first year of high school.

1908
02:56:26.719 --> 02:56:30.239
Because I put everything into that story. It was creative.

1909
02:56:31.639 --> 02:56:33.200
I don't know if it's funny or not, but it,

1910
02:56:33.360 --> 02:56:36.120
you know, had silly things in it, and he just

1911
02:56:36.280 --> 02:56:40.799
completely dismantled it and told me it was ridiculous. And

1912
02:56:41.120 --> 02:56:45.440
you know, from then on, I was done and didn't

1913
02:56:45.479 --> 02:56:51.440
bother with school at all, just turned up, just went

1914
02:56:51.520 --> 02:57:00.159
through emotions, quite windy. You know what's weird, right, I

1915
02:57:00.319 --> 02:57:02.440
heard someone climbing onto the roof, but I didn't hear

1916
02:57:02.520 --> 02:57:05.920
him get down off the roof, which I think is

1917
02:57:06.000 --> 02:57:13.840
quite strange, don't you think, seriously climb onto the roof

1918
02:57:15.440 --> 02:57:17.719
because they got scaffolding up and they're supposed to be

1919
02:57:17.799 --> 02:57:26.600
putting some kind of netting over the solar panels to

1920
02:57:26.719 --> 02:57:32.079
stop birds from getting on them. So I see him

1921
02:57:32.120 --> 02:57:36.280
climb up, I didn't hear him climb down. And I'm

1922
02:57:36.360 --> 02:57:41.040
just repeating myself, but I wonder if he's still up

1923
02:57:41.120 --> 02:57:45.360
there because I saw him climb up. I saw him

1924
02:57:45.399 --> 02:57:48.200
climb up, I didn't hear him climb down, and it

1925
02:57:48.280 --> 02:57:50.559
was quite noisy when he did climb up. It's not

1926
02:57:50.680 --> 02:57:55.479
something that I don't think he could I don't think

1927
02:57:55.520 --> 02:58:06.479
it's something he could do easily without causing sound. Hm. M.

1928
02:58:08.520 --> 02:58:17.000
Let me just see what other good memories. Happy memories.

1929
02:58:20.360 --> 02:58:23.239
I would say the last day of school, but it wasn't.

1930
02:58:23.719 --> 02:58:36.879
I didn't enjoy it. It was a weird, weird one. Birthdays,

1931
02:58:37.000 --> 02:58:44.399
Any happy birthdays, Yeah, Christmas, I'll say it. Christmas. I've

1932
02:58:44.440 --> 02:58:47.559
got happy memories of Christmas, but it kind of mingle

1933
02:58:47.719 --> 02:58:50.719
into different memories, if you know what I mean. It's

1934
02:58:50.760 --> 02:59:00.639
not necessarily have Okay, there's memories that I know were happy. Ish.

1935
02:59:02.120 --> 02:59:05.440
I've never been a particularly happy person, so's just I

1936
02:59:05.520 --> 02:59:10.520
don't see I've done things I did. I think it's

1937
02:59:10.559 --> 02:59:18.559
an enthusiasm thing. Yeah. When I got my bike, it

1938
02:59:18.719 --> 02:59:21.680
wasn't my first bike, but when I got my racer,

1939
02:59:22.639 --> 02:59:35.520
I was probably about thirteen, and oh, I dreamt about

1940
02:59:35.559 --> 02:59:42.680
this bike. I felt like it was gonna absolutely it's weird,

1941
02:59:42.760 --> 02:59:45.440
but I felt like it was going to transform my

1942
02:59:45.799 --> 02:59:49.879
entire life because up to this point I was walking

1943
02:59:49.920 --> 02:59:53.840
around doing my paper around, you know, and it was

1944
02:59:54.440 --> 02:59:57.840
a long slog. But I thought if I got a bike,

1945
03:00:00.360 --> 03:00:05.639
I could do it so much quicker. And I did.

1946
03:00:11.520 --> 03:00:14.239
Can you hear that the gates it didn't even seem

1947
03:00:14.559 --> 03:00:21.879
seemarticularly windy today earlier, but now it does a little

1948
03:00:21.920 --> 03:00:31.360
bit because the garden gate keeps binging, banging, banging. Yes,

1949
03:00:37.680 --> 03:00:43.159
the thing is, every single Christmas Morning from the age

1950
03:00:43.200 --> 03:00:52.319
of seven to the age of fourteen was pretty much brilliant.

1951
03:00:58.360 --> 03:01:03.120
So was that eight years. So had eight Christmases that

1952
03:01:03.319 --> 03:01:10.399
were always good, always good. I mean the build up varied,

1953
03:01:11.440 --> 03:01:15.479
and it was always good until after lunch. That's when

1954
03:01:15.559 --> 03:01:21.280
we probably started arguing again, the kids. But great dinner

1955
03:01:22.239 --> 03:01:26.840
the morning, this is what we used to do. So

1956
03:01:26.920 --> 03:01:31.159
we go to bed soorry father Christmas could come. We

1957
03:01:31.280 --> 03:01:34.920
go to bed in the evening early. But then I

1958
03:01:35.040 --> 03:01:37.000
was going to bed early anyway, because I was quite young.

1959
03:01:39.479 --> 03:01:41.319
I don't know what time I was allowed to stay

1960
03:01:41.399 --> 03:01:47.360
up to when I was fourteen. Because when I was fifteen,

1961
03:01:52.120 --> 03:01:56.079
which was the end of August two ninety two thousand,

1962
03:01:56.479 --> 03:02:02.239
nineteen eighty five, and then the following April I was

1963
03:02:02.399 --> 03:02:05.520
I'd left school, so I could pretty much stay up

1964
03:02:05.520 --> 03:02:09.000
as a lot late as I wanted. But then I

1965
03:02:09.120 --> 03:02:14.479
had the television from fourteen onwards, so officially I was

1966
03:02:14.520 --> 03:02:17.399
supposed to be in bed, So as long as I

1967
03:02:17.440 --> 03:02:22.879
went into my bedroom by a certain time, but then

1968
03:02:22.920 --> 03:02:31.120
I'd be watching TV till early hours. I loved it. Oh,

1969
03:02:35.440 --> 03:02:38.639
always loved television when I was a kid. That was

1970
03:02:38.719 --> 03:02:44.719
my comfort television. And the less people in the room,

1971
03:02:44.760 --> 03:02:47.760
the better. Seriously, if I was on my own, that

1972
03:02:48.440 --> 03:02:51.840
was the best time to watch television. I just loved

1973
03:02:51.920 --> 03:02:54.280
my own. I didn't love my own company. That's probably

1974
03:02:54.319 --> 03:02:59.559
not the right word, but I guess it's when I

1975
03:02:59.600 --> 03:03:02.399
felt felt safest. Really, when I was on my own.

1976
03:03:03.159 --> 03:03:06.719
Maybe I don't know. I felt more relaxed. Yeah, that's it.

1977
03:03:06.959 --> 03:03:10.079
I always felt more relaxed when I was by myself

1978
03:03:12.600 --> 03:03:15.120
because I can just be me, I could do me,

1979
03:03:15.719 --> 03:03:27.879
just be me, no pretense. No, I don't know's that's

1980
03:03:27.920 --> 03:03:30.520
why I haven't any here a problem sometimes because I'm

1981
03:03:30.559 --> 03:03:36.159
always showing off to him, So he sometimes says, just listen, Dad,

1982
03:03:36.280 --> 03:03:39.719
can you just relax just you know, you don't have

1983
03:03:39.840 --> 03:03:43.399
to be on all the time. Just relaxed, chill out,

1984
03:03:44.280 --> 03:03:59.600
just calm down, okay, Vinny, Sorry, sorry son. Hmmm. See

1985
03:03:59.639 --> 03:04:02.760
that is annoying me now now, and I should be

1986
03:04:02.799 --> 03:04:09.360
able to let it go, but I can't. So we'd

1987
03:04:09.399 --> 03:04:12.920
wake up in the morning Christmas morning, we'd all come

1988
03:04:13.000 --> 03:04:18.879
downstairs in our pajamas and we're coming to the living

1989
03:04:18.959 --> 03:04:24.000
room and there'd be these We'd have big sacks in

1990
03:04:24.120 --> 03:04:27.719
front of the Christmas tree full of presents that would

1991
03:04:27.719 --> 03:04:32.319
all have. On this one particular Christmas, there was three

1992
03:04:32.399 --> 03:04:36.079
bikes because I wanted a bike, and out for the

1993
03:04:36.159 --> 03:04:40.079
first I thought they got me three bikes, like I

1994
03:04:40.159 --> 03:04:45.000
only expected one, and then my brothers pushed me out

1995
03:04:45.040 --> 03:04:49.360
the way. Then I realized that they had one as

1996
03:04:49.399 --> 03:04:54.159
well each. It took the shine off a little bit.

1997
03:04:55.479 --> 03:04:59.520
You know. I never was much of a sharer, but

1998
03:04:59.600 --> 03:05:03.680
it was. It's an amazing the weird thing about it.

1999
03:05:03.719 --> 03:05:05.239
I knew I was getting a bike, but I didn't

2000
03:05:05.239 --> 03:05:09.639
believe I was getting a bike because next to the

2001
03:05:10.319 --> 03:05:14.200
newsagents where I used to click my papers in the evening,

2002
03:05:16.040 --> 03:05:20.639
I used to go into the sometimes it was raining

2003
03:05:20.680 --> 03:05:24.799
and go into the bike shop just pretending. Actually I

2004
03:05:24.840 --> 03:05:27.200
probably was looking at the bikes because I was fantasizing.

2005
03:05:27.600 --> 03:05:29.639
But sometimes I just go in there just pretending to

2006
03:05:29.680 --> 03:05:32.200
look at the bikes while I wait for my papers

2007
03:05:32.239 --> 03:05:34.879
to be sorted, because I didn't want to get wet.

2008
03:05:39.319 --> 03:05:41.079
And I was looking at this bike, thinking I like

2009
03:05:41.159 --> 03:05:47.040
this one, and I saw my name on it. Literally,

2010
03:05:47.159 --> 03:05:53.040
my name and my address. Now is how insecure I

2011
03:05:53.200 --> 03:05:56.639
was back then. I still didn't believe it was for me,

2012
03:05:58.559 --> 03:06:04.159
but my name, name, and my full address, so clearly

2013
03:06:04.200 --> 03:06:07.079
it has been purchased, and it was just waiting there

2014
03:06:07.280 --> 03:06:10.680
to be picked up just before Christmas because I didn't

2015
03:06:10.680 --> 03:06:13.399
have anywhere to put it, so they probably wait until

2016
03:06:13.479 --> 03:06:20.360
Christmas Eve to collect it. And it was a racer

2017
03:06:21.239 --> 03:06:25.479
with blue handlebars. This strap that went around it blue

2018
03:06:26.639 --> 03:06:32.040
and had a bell on it. I think the brakes

2019
03:06:32.079 --> 03:06:35.360
were both on the end of the handle bars and

2020
03:06:35.479 --> 03:06:41.879
at the top of the handle bars, and it was brilliant.

2021
03:06:42.000 --> 03:06:48.520
I loved it. I think it had a probably had

2022
03:06:48.559 --> 03:06:55.760
a little rack on the back as well. But I

2023
03:06:55.920 --> 03:06:59.000
really didn't believe it was it was mine, well, it

2024
03:06:59.120 --> 03:07:05.520
was going to be my until Christmas Day came. I

2025
03:07:05.600 --> 03:07:13.920
still didn't believe it. And then Christmas Day came, and

2026
03:07:15.200 --> 03:07:18.120
I remember just after Christmas, when all the shops opened again,

2027
03:07:18.520 --> 03:07:20.239
I went back in that shop just to make sure

2028
03:07:20.280 --> 03:07:25.319
it was gone. I was going to find the same

2029
03:07:25.440 --> 03:07:28.319
bike still in there with my name on it. Weird.

2030
03:07:34.879 --> 03:07:36.399
And then I come out of the shop and I

2031
03:07:36.479 --> 03:07:42.159
see it outside the shop. I'm like it's moved. Then

2032
03:07:42.200 --> 03:07:45.360
I realized this is my bike, isn't it? Just left

2033
03:07:45.360 --> 03:07:57.799
it outside? Christmas dinner was always nice. The downside to

2034
03:07:57.920 --> 03:08:01.799
Christmas dinner was doing a washing up. Wow. Can you

2035
03:08:01.879 --> 03:08:06.120
hear that gate? It's very neboy used to have a

2036
03:08:06.200 --> 03:08:10.440
gate there, and one of the neighbors moaned, wanna gate,

2037
03:08:10.680 --> 03:08:13.840
wanna go? When got a gate? Why we've got a gate?

2038
03:08:18.239 --> 03:08:21.239
So they put a council put a gate up, which

2039
03:08:21.319 --> 03:08:24.959
is ironic because the person that moaned isn't even a

2040
03:08:25.079 --> 03:08:30.159
council person. He bought his properties, so it's not even council.

2041
03:08:31.360 --> 03:08:33.959
But he moaned to the council. And when when the

2042
03:08:34.040 --> 03:08:37.040
gate there. I don't know why. I just feel it's

2043
03:08:37.079 --> 03:08:41.159
important to have a gate because it's a gap and

2044
03:08:42.440 --> 03:08:44.680
I miss it all the banging when it's windy. I

2045
03:08:44.879 --> 03:08:48.239
like to hear the gate banging really loudly. It gives

2046
03:08:48.280 --> 03:08:58.559
me comfort in my toes. I don't know all other

2047
03:08:58.719 --> 03:09:02.000
things that I look forward to. What are things I enjoy?

2048
03:09:02.520 --> 03:09:09.479
I enjoyed, I got pleasure. I was happy having a

2049
03:09:09.680 --> 03:09:15.600
big bag of presence. That was nice because I realized

2050
03:09:15.760 --> 03:09:24.000
early on that Christmas was about receiving, not giving, and

2051
03:09:26.399 --> 03:09:29.680
that was the thing I preferred. That's what I liked most.

2052
03:09:33.040 --> 03:09:35.159
You know, I could pretend otherwise, but it's not true.

2053
03:09:35.799 --> 03:09:38.040
I enjoyed. I was interested in what I was going

2054
03:09:38.079 --> 03:09:43.360
to get. It might be because for the first seven

2055
03:09:43.440 --> 03:09:46.120
years I didn't really have any toys, so maybe that's

2056
03:09:46.159 --> 03:09:52.159
what it was. But I loved Christmas. I love my

2057
03:09:52.239 --> 03:09:57.520
birthday as well, getting toys, getting new stuff. Absolutely did.

2058
03:09:58.520 --> 03:10:03.959
I'm not going to lie. And the whole thing of

2059
03:10:04.360 --> 03:10:08.600
how does someone else like what I got? Then how

2060
03:10:08.600 --> 03:10:18.159
does that affect me? Narcissist. So I used to like

2061
03:10:18.440 --> 03:10:22.120
and try and go somewhere I'd find it, like a

2062
03:10:22.200 --> 03:10:27.200
little space in the city where i'd be as far

2063
03:10:27.239 --> 03:10:30.639
away from everyone else as possible and open them and

2064
03:10:30.719 --> 03:10:32.600
I'd like say, oh, thank you, and I shout the

2065
03:10:32.719 --> 03:10:34.360
name out and then move on to the next one

2066
03:10:37.000 --> 03:10:45.280
and pile them up. You know, there's always one one

2067
03:10:45.520 --> 03:10:50.399
special gift, like where we got the bikes, There's always

2068
03:10:50.399 --> 03:10:54.200
one that was a little bit more, a little bit

2069
03:10:54.280 --> 03:10:58.200
more stound, it stood out a little bit, and there'd

2070
03:10:58.239 --> 03:11:01.399
be lots of small presents, which I also liked. Our

2071
03:11:01.440 --> 03:11:07.559
little chocolate bars and little boxes of chocolates and basically

2072
03:11:07.639 --> 03:11:14.000
anything with sugar in I liked. I'll start eating them,

2073
03:11:16.319 --> 03:11:18.479
and we weren't supposed to eat them because it could

2074
03:11:18.520 --> 03:11:25.840
spoil our lunch, but I never did, although I couldn't

2075
03:11:25.840 --> 03:11:34.200
always eat Christmas pudding. Never been a massive fan of

2076
03:11:34.319 --> 03:11:37.719
Christmas cake. I think I prefer it now compared to

2077
03:11:37.760 --> 03:11:43.399
when I was a little I liked it, but it

2078
03:11:43.520 --> 03:11:50.040
was the marsie pan and the icin it was a

2079
03:11:50.079 --> 03:11:54.799
little bit too much for me. But the Christmas cake

2080
03:11:54.840 --> 03:11:59.680
itself was yummy, yum yum. And I did like Christmas pudding.

2081
03:12:01.399 --> 03:12:06.360
Not with custard. Never with custard, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,

2082
03:12:07.239 --> 03:12:13.399
could never eat custard, Will never eat custard. But ice

2083
03:12:13.520 --> 03:12:25.959
cream or cream, whipped cream. What's it called carnation milk?

2084
03:12:26.719 --> 03:12:30.680
Carnation milk? That was nice. It's like that. I don't

2085
03:12:30.680 --> 03:12:32.600
know if you can even buy it anymore. Used to

2086
03:12:32.680 --> 03:12:35.239
be in a tin and you don't in the tin

2087
03:12:35.360 --> 03:12:40.239
up and it was I was lovely, really nice. Used

2088
03:12:40.239 --> 03:12:44.159
to use it in cooking as well when I used

2089
03:12:44.159 --> 03:12:54.840
to go to school and cook stuff like cakes. I

2090
03:12:54.959 --> 03:12:59.040
really loved the books. I just always love It's just

2091
03:12:59.120 --> 03:13:03.799
something about the ill of a new book. Mm hmmmm,

2092
03:13:06.959 --> 03:13:09.639
so tasty. Love. I don't want to eat them, but

2093
03:13:09.879 --> 03:13:21.680
just they smell great. It's just yeah, or I'm not

2094
03:13:21.760 --> 03:13:24.040
sure what other part of Christmas I liked. I suppose

2095
03:13:24.120 --> 03:13:28.559
just eating. I liked the eating. I didn't like wearing

2096
03:13:28.600 --> 03:13:33.520
a hat. Christmas hair never really appealed to me. My

2097
03:13:33.639 --> 03:13:39.239
dad still insists on it even now. We met up

2098
03:13:39.239 --> 03:13:41.920
in a pub last Christmas locally to where I live,

2099
03:13:43.520 --> 03:13:48.399
and by Christmas dinner in there, no one else is

2100
03:13:48.440 --> 03:13:52.079
having a Christmas dinner, and my dad insisted that we

2101
03:13:52.200 --> 03:13:55.399
all wear Christmas hats out of the crackers. And there's

2102
03:13:55.399 --> 03:13:58.319
all these people just out having a drink because it

2103
03:13:58.440 --> 03:14:03.280
was like the first week of December, and I said this,

2104
03:14:03.479 --> 03:14:05.360
I don't really want to wear his house hat, and

2105
03:14:06.239 --> 03:14:08.440
my dad said why. I said, because I'm hoping to

2106
03:14:08.520 --> 03:14:11.239
have sex again one day and I'm in this pub

2107
03:14:11.319 --> 03:14:13.600
with all these people, and this is not going to

2108
03:14:13.680 --> 03:14:16.680
help me. I'm not going to help my cause. So

2109
03:14:16.719 --> 03:14:20.399
I looked ridiculous. He said, well, if you didn't want

2110
03:14:20.399 --> 03:14:22.600
to look ridiculous, then you should have come out wearing

2111
03:14:22.680 --> 03:14:30.799
some trousers, which is a good point. I suppose one

2112
03:14:30.799 --> 03:14:45.559
of the good moments, just trying to think happiest happy moments.

2113
03:14:48.040 --> 03:14:50.440
There's probably a few, but I can't remember them. I

2114
03:14:50.559 --> 03:14:58.639
can't think of anything during the eighties particularly. Nothing stands

2115
03:14:58.680 --> 03:15:11.479
out during the nineties two thousands. I said, there was

2116
03:15:11.600 --> 03:15:20.079
one happy moment. I broke the sales record at Churchill Insurance,

2117
03:15:20.639 --> 03:15:22.799
so I sold more than anyone else ever had in

2118
03:15:22.920 --> 03:15:29.799
one week. That record has broken two weeks later, which

2119
03:15:29.879 --> 03:15:32.760
was a bit annoying. But yeah, at least I held

2120
03:15:32.799 --> 03:15:36.879
a record for a while two weeks. But that was

2121
03:15:37.280 --> 03:15:40.719
a good moment. There's another one that was quite cool.

2122
03:15:41.280 --> 03:15:46.760
When I was selling phone contracts. I went into work

2123
03:15:47.559 --> 03:15:53.079
on a Monday. I've been working there for maybe two weeks,

2124
03:15:53.200 --> 03:15:57.840
three weeks, and order management were just staring at me

2125
03:16:00.120 --> 03:16:04.959
and I said, I know. And one of the supervisors

2126
03:16:05.159 --> 03:16:10.280
or the sales leader said, have you seen have you?

2127
03:16:10.520 --> 03:16:12.639
He said? He said something like, how do you do it?

2128
03:16:12.760 --> 03:16:18.319
I said what? I said, how do you just? I said,

2129
03:16:18.479 --> 03:16:20.479
what are you talking about? So if you're not seeing

2130
03:16:20.520 --> 03:16:24.440
the board, I said, what board? I mean, I've seen

2131
03:16:24.559 --> 03:16:28.239
boards before, any particular board you want to talk about?

2132
03:16:30.760 --> 03:16:33.719
And he was talking about the sales board. And I

2133
03:16:33.840 --> 03:16:38.440
was number two out of everyone. I was the second

2134
03:16:38.559 --> 03:16:46.520
highest seller, and I didn't even get that many sales.

2135
03:16:47.360 --> 03:16:51.239
Because what happened is the person who was the top

2136
03:16:52.280 --> 03:16:55.200
fifty percent of the people that said yes to having

2137
03:16:55.239 --> 03:17:00.680
a new phone contract canceled before they even got any further.

2138
03:17:01.159 --> 03:17:03.239
You know, they'd phone them up, because that's what they did.

2139
03:17:03.319 --> 03:17:05.200
We'd do the work, then they'd call up just to

2140
03:17:05.280 --> 03:17:08.879
confirm that they were happy, and then send the new

2141
03:17:08.959 --> 03:17:13.440
phone out to them. Fifty percent of her people said no,

2142
03:17:13.959 --> 03:17:15.639
so she was getting a lot more yeses than me,

2143
03:17:16.360 --> 03:17:18.680
But then they turned to fifty percent turn into news.

2144
03:17:23.920 --> 03:17:30.879
I'd say probably ninety percent, maybe eighty percent. Probably ninety

2145
03:17:30.920 --> 03:17:37.040
percent of my yes is stage yeses. And they did like,

2146
03:17:37.159 --> 03:17:39.879
I didn't understand how how are you doing what you do?

2147
03:17:40.520 --> 03:17:43.799
But I didn't know how I was doing it. I've

2148
03:17:43.799 --> 03:17:47.239
got no idea, still don't know it just because it

2149
03:17:47.360 --> 03:17:50.239
was cold calling, so people phoning people up didn't know

2150
03:17:50.280 --> 03:17:57.920
who the heck I was. And yeah it was it's

2151
03:17:57.959 --> 03:18:01.559
not the easiest job in the world, but they couldn't

2152
03:18:01.559 --> 03:18:08.000
feel It's like, how how have you done this? And

2153
03:18:08.159 --> 03:18:14.360
from then on they kind of seemed to like me. Yeah,

2154
03:18:15.399 --> 03:18:18.360
that was a nice feeling. So it was a nice feeling.

2155
03:18:19.520 --> 03:18:29.600
And another nice feeling. So it's like these I suppose

2156
03:18:29.600 --> 03:18:34.079
these little happy moments. I was working for Churchill and

2157
03:18:35.600 --> 03:18:43.479
the the sales manager came in and told me that

2158
03:18:43.600 --> 03:18:48.079
they were using because they recorded all their cause, so

2159
03:18:48.200 --> 03:18:51.959
they were using my cause to train the new recruits on.

2160
03:18:54.239 --> 03:18:59.200
Because I was I kind of ticked most of the boxes.

2161
03:19:00.319 --> 03:19:03.879
I wasn't the top top top salesperson. I was in

2162
03:19:04.000 --> 03:19:10.719
a top five. I have about two hundred. But my

2163
03:19:10.879 --> 03:19:15.440
conversion was better than everyone else's. So my call to

2164
03:19:15.639 --> 03:19:20.440
quote was better than everyone else's, and my call to

2165
03:19:20.600 --> 03:19:23.479
sail was better than everyone else's, and my quote to

2166
03:19:23.559 --> 03:19:27.879
sell was better than everyone else's. So I just had

2167
03:19:27.920 --> 03:19:35.239
a high higher level of Yeah, it sounds like I'm bragging.

2168
03:19:35.399 --> 03:19:39.799
This is just factual, just what happened. I don't know why.

2169
03:19:40.120 --> 03:19:42.440
I think it was because I talked. I didn't just

2170
03:19:42.639 --> 03:19:44.639
rush through the call and then get rid of them.

2171
03:19:44.719 --> 03:19:48.520
I actually built up some kind of report with them,

2172
03:19:49.399 --> 03:20:01.159
rapport the yeah, nice moment, happy moment. So nothing for

2173
03:20:01.239 --> 03:20:06.920
the rest of that period. Nothing for two thousand and four,

2174
03:20:08.719 --> 03:20:17.120
two thousand and five, two thousand and six. I would

2175
03:20:17.120 --> 03:20:20.239
say probably had a few happy, happy memories from two

2176
03:20:20.319 --> 03:20:23.399
thousand and six because that's when I started doing all

2177
03:20:23.440 --> 03:20:30.920
this stuff. So visiting the lady that needed you know,

2178
03:20:31.120 --> 03:20:35.239
a couple of people that needed operations, helping them to

2179
03:20:36.760 --> 03:20:40.159
reduce the pain and to reduce you know, the worrying

2180
03:20:40.239 --> 03:20:45.440
of it, going into hospital and doing some hypnosis of

2181
03:20:45.520 --> 03:20:54.239
someone in hospital. Starting to do group sessions in rehab,

2182
03:20:54.479 --> 03:21:00.840
a couple of rehab centers, starting a website, the new website,

2183
03:21:01.000 --> 03:21:04.600
and you know all that stuff. So there there's lots

2184
03:21:04.639 --> 03:21:09.479
of quite nice feelings during two thousand and six, two

2185
03:21:09.600 --> 03:21:13.559
thousand and seven, there was a few really nice moments.

2186
03:21:18.399 --> 03:21:24.239
Two thousand and ten, I suppose finding out that I

2187
03:21:24.280 --> 03:21:26.680
had passed my I'd got my degree. That was a

2188
03:21:26.760 --> 03:21:38.319
nice feeling. Twoenty eleven, twoenty twelve, and nothing twenty thirteen,

2189
03:21:40.079 --> 03:21:46.840
two thousand and fourteen, two thy fifteen. Probably getting this flat.

2190
03:21:47.200 --> 03:21:51.120
That was a happy moment, just knowing that I had

2191
03:21:51.200 --> 03:21:56.040
my own home, but technically, you know, it's but providing

2192
03:21:56.159 --> 03:22:08.079
I behaved myself, this is a home for lot. And

2193
03:22:08.239 --> 03:22:12.559
then probably that moment, as I said with Andre, when

2194
03:22:12.600 --> 03:22:22.559
he climbed up my sleeve. There was a really happy

2195
03:22:22.639 --> 03:22:26.840
moment I had when I woke up and Vinnie's Vinnie

2196
03:22:26.959 --> 03:22:31.799
was asleep, but his head or his chin was rested

2197
03:22:31.879 --> 03:22:35.360
on my chest. That was lovely. I really enjoyed that.

2198
03:22:36.639 --> 03:22:39.879
It's strange, just little things like that. It gave me.

2199
03:22:40.040 --> 03:22:43.239
It was such a beautiful way to start the day.

2200
03:22:50.000 --> 03:23:08.520
And I can't think of anything else offhand. Yeah, there's

2201
03:23:08.559 --> 03:23:10.920
a few, though, isn't it. I know you did ask

2202
03:23:12.399 --> 03:23:15.559
you know what was the most It's very difficult for

2203
03:23:15.639 --> 03:23:19.680
me to think of just one example. There's never just

2204
03:23:19.799 --> 03:23:24.040
one thing. I mean, I suppose if I had a baby,

2205
03:23:25.319 --> 03:23:30.200
or if I'd gotten married, something like that would possibly

2206
03:23:30.280 --> 03:23:32.680
be I guess that would be quite important to me,

2207
03:23:32.719 --> 03:23:39.040
wouldn't it. So I suppose maybe my happiest moment would

2208
03:23:39.120 --> 03:23:44.440
be seeing my newborn child for the first time, or

2209
03:23:46.879 --> 03:23:52.120
getting married and getting to make love to my new

2210
03:23:52.239 --> 03:23:57.280
wife for the first time and just be so relieved

2211
03:23:57.319 --> 03:23:59.319
that she doesn't ever Really, I don't know, it could

2212
03:23:59.360 --> 03:24:06.639
be anything. It's the joy is or that you did

2213
03:24:06.680 --> 03:24:08.440
have one. I don't know, however you look at it.

2214
03:24:09.040 --> 03:24:25.719
So I I can't think of much more. Yeah, I'm

2215
03:24:25.760 --> 03:24:29.479
going to hope that there's sometimes ahead, some happy times ahead,

2216
03:24:29.520 --> 03:24:37.559
I hope. So, Yeah, even if the wind is blowing,

2217
03:24:37.639 --> 03:24:46.840
that that living thing bashing that thing against the thing

2218
03:24:47.559 --> 03:24:54.760
constantly in the garden, the gate. That's it. I couldn't

2219
03:24:54.799 --> 03:24:58.479
think of the name bashing the thing against the thing.

2220
03:24:59.000 --> 03:25:01.559
I knew what I meant. Maybe you didn't, but you

2221
03:25:01.639 --> 03:25:11.280
do now. Yeah. I can't think of any other things

2222
03:25:11.680 --> 03:25:23.079
off the top of my head. That. Yeah, not memories

2223
03:25:23.159 --> 03:25:26.879
of being particularly happy. There's a few, isn't there a few? There?

2224
03:25:27.680 --> 03:25:44.959
It's not bad? Yeah, hm hmmm. Indeed, right next we

2225
03:25:45.600 --> 03:26:02.360
have uh huh, that's weird. The old uh thingy jigg

2226
03:26:02.440 --> 03:26:22.879
has gone weirdness. Here we go. Rich asks in your

2227
03:26:23.000 --> 03:26:27.159
last few let me buoy you to sleeps. You've talked

2228
03:26:27.159 --> 03:26:32.040
about how hot it is. I assume by your podcasts

2229
03:26:32.319 --> 03:26:39.280
that you do not have central AC? Are you able

2230
03:26:39.360 --> 03:26:44.840
to put a window AC unit in a window fan?

2231
03:26:47.239 --> 03:26:50.680
I live in Florida and have central AC. When I

2232
03:26:50.799 --> 03:26:53.520
was a kid, we had no AC, but we did

2233
03:26:53.600 --> 03:26:57.239
have a big window fan that blew. That did a lot.

2234
03:26:57.799 --> 03:26:59.799
I don't remember as a kid ever being hot in

2235
03:26:59.840 --> 03:27:06.840
side in this country we're in where I live in England,

2236
03:27:09.799 --> 03:27:14.520
air conditioning isn't really a thing. I mean, it's a thing,

2237
03:27:15.000 --> 03:27:20.120
but it's not really a thing in a sense of

2238
03:27:21.479 --> 03:27:25.760
it's not a hot country. We have a few hot days,

2239
03:27:28.280 --> 03:27:33.040
and I would say just generally we kind of put

2240
03:27:33.120 --> 03:27:36.840
up with it. It's not to say that there's no

2241
03:27:37.680 --> 03:27:43.120
housard with air conditioning, because of course there is, and

2242
03:27:43.959 --> 03:27:53.479
offices have air conditioning. Yeah, I think most offices I've

2243
03:27:53.520 --> 03:28:00.879
been in, I've got air conditioning. But here, like in

2244
03:28:01.000 --> 03:28:09.440
the houses schools, I wonder schools have air conditioning. I

2245
03:28:09.520 --> 03:28:15.399
don't think so. The school I lived in when I

2246
03:28:15.559 --> 03:28:18.319
was I never lived in a school. What am I

2247
03:28:18.360 --> 03:28:21.120
talking about the school I went to, Well, any of

2248
03:28:21.159 --> 03:28:22.760
the schools I went to when I was a kid

2249
03:28:23.479 --> 03:28:26.799
no air conditioning. I didn't even know what air conditioning was.

2250
03:28:30.600 --> 03:28:34.959
It's a little bit like we do have central heating.

2251
03:28:35.440 --> 03:28:38.920
That would be an issue because it's a cold country.

2252
03:28:40.079 --> 03:28:44.319
You know, there's more cold days and warm days, So

2253
03:28:44.399 --> 03:28:47.879
if there's no central heating, that's a real issue. So

2254
03:28:49.399 --> 03:28:53.920
central heating over air conditioning is you know, a million

2255
03:28:53.959 --> 03:28:57.120
percent of the priority for people living in this country.

2256
03:29:04.399 --> 03:29:14.040
I reckon I could probably count. I can't imagine we

2257
03:29:14.079 --> 03:29:21.600
have more than five uncomfortable days a year heat wise.

2258
03:29:25.520 --> 03:29:29.520
I mean, I know it depends upon a person's situation.

2259
03:29:30.760 --> 03:29:37.559
You know, if because everyone experiences comfort and stuff differently.

2260
03:29:38.200 --> 03:29:49.479
That's in it. But from a personal perspective, I would

2261
03:29:49.559 --> 03:29:56.200
say I probably feel overheated five times a year, maybe

2262
03:29:57.440 --> 03:30:05.840
if that by the weather. I mean, there was a

2263
03:30:05.920 --> 03:30:16.760
couple of days last week. Oh was that was world time?

2264
03:30:16.879 --> 03:30:20.079
Wasn't it? The ice cream man? The ice cream man

2265
03:30:20.479 --> 03:30:32.319
is coming, or ice cream woman or ice cream person.

2266
03:30:34.280 --> 03:30:38.959
It's I could definitely eat an ice cream. It's not cold,

2267
03:30:39.200 --> 03:30:43.319
it's not warm today, but it's still a nice day.

2268
03:30:43.680 --> 03:30:55.319
It's stop raining now. Uh yeah, I've never lived anywhere

2269
03:30:55.360 --> 03:31:03.479
they had air conditioning. It's really it's hard for me

2270
03:31:03.559 --> 03:31:08.280
to generalize because I would say air conditioning is just

2271
03:31:08.440 --> 03:31:12.280
not a thing. It's not a general thing in this country.

2272
03:31:13.440 --> 03:31:18.479
If we're looking at buildings that were built like homes,

2273
03:31:18.520 --> 03:31:24.239
I mean, if we aim at homes, so every home

2274
03:31:24.399 --> 03:31:29.319
would have windows, every every home would have some kind

2275
03:31:29.360 --> 03:31:36.000
of heating system. I mean generally central heating, but it

2276
03:31:36.040 --> 03:31:39.879
could be underfloor, underfloor heating, it could be you know,

2277
03:31:40.120 --> 03:31:45.200
every every home has heating in it. I suppose it's

2278
03:31:45.200 --> 03:31:47.879
all called central heating, isn't it, Because it's a central

2279
03:31:47.959 --> 03:32:02.399
heating system instead of radiators. Every home that's built in

2280
03:32:02.479 --> 03:32:09.840
this country has a bathroom, may not have a bath,

2281
03:32:09.959 --> 03:32:16.000
but may have a shower. And the bathrooms here we

2282
03:32:16.159 --> 03:32:25.280
have even a bath, a toilet and a sink, or

2283
03:32:25.479 --> 03:32:28.280
a shower, a toilet and a sink. So that's what

2284
03:32:28.399 --> 03:32:32.600
we class a bathroom. See in America, you know, you

2285
03:32:32.719 --> 03:32:36.440
have bathrooms and restaurants, don't you. So you have baths

2286
03:32:36.479 --> 03:32:39.719
and restaurants and stuff. So we don't have that over here.

2287
03:32:41.040 --> 03:32:44.079
So you know, when you you know, you start seeing

2288
03:32:44.200 --> 03:32:47.239
movies and stuff and on TV shows in America when

2289
03:32:47.280 --> 03:32:50.040
they say to the waiter, can you tell me where

2290
03:32:50.280 --> 03:32:54.559
where the bathroom is? And the waiter says, oh, it's

2291
03:32:54.680 --> 03:32:59.319
over there on the left, and they go along. I'll

2292
03:32:59.360 --> 03:33:05.399
never understood how that works, because I must admit when

2293
03:33:05.440 --> 03:33:10.000
I'm out in a restaurant, I don't go to many restaurants,

2294
03:33:10.040 --> 03:33:14.799
to be honest, but I'm generally not prepared to have

2295
03:33:14.920 --> 03:33:20.159
a bath or a shower because I would want it

2296
03:33:20.280 --> 03:33:24.520
at least a little a little but a bag with

2297
03:33:24.639 --> 03:33:28.440
some of my stuff in like soap, flannel, deal do

2298
03:33:28.639 --> 03:33:33.000
I mean? I don't know, just something too, you know,

2299
03:33:33.280 --> 03:33:41.120
like a towel, even need a towel, but a little mirror,

2300
03:33:41.879 --> 03:33:46.719
but you know, it's it's some little glasses to balance,

2301
03:33:46.760 --> 03:33:48.959
you know, But anyway, it's just it's good to have

2302
03:33:49.120 --> 03:33:56.840
play up, play play. How can you be prepared unless

2303
03:33:57.440 --> 03:34:01.000
maybe the hotels or the rest trust rather they have

2304
03:34:01.360 --> 03:34:06.639
all that for you. Do they charge extra? But then

2305
03:34:07.559 --> 03:34:10.479
I saw someone in the hospital the other day. I

2306
03:34:10.520 --> 03:34:13.719
think they're from America, and they said too. They stopped

2307
03:34:13.719 --> 03:34:15.920
one of the porters and said, excuse me if you

2308
03:34:16.000 --> 03:34:21.920
told me where the bathroom is, and it pointed around

2309
03:34:21.959 --> 03:34:24.680
the corner, and a bloke walked around the corner, and

2310
03:34:24.719 --> 03:34:28.879
I thinking what I could do with a bath as well, actually,

2311
03:34:30.840 --> 03:34:33.120
or a shower at the very least, because it was

2312
03:34:33.239 --> 03:34:37.600
quite hot, I thought, maybe a nice shower, and then

2313
03:34:37.639 --> 03:34:39.600
they have a little bit cooler at the end, just

2314
03:34:39.840 --> 03:34:44.040
cool off a bit. And I followed him, but by

2315
03:34:44.040 --> 03:34:46.000
the time they got to where he was, he was gone.

2316
03:34:46.200 --> 03:34:50.799
I don't know where he went into. So I couldn't

2317
03:34:50.840 --> 03:34:57.559
find a bathroom anywhere. There's just toilets. Every room just

2318
03:34:57.639 --> 03:35:02.520
had a toilet and a sink. Of baths or showers

2319
03:35:02.600 --> 03:35:09.399
or anything, just confusing me. It's almost like it's an

2320
03:35:09.440 --> 03:35:17.559
invisible bathroom. The same in restaurants. I've been in a

2321
03:35:17.639 --> 03:35:20.360
restaurant and I've heard someone say good turn with a

2322
03:35:20.440 --> 03:35:22.840
bathroom is and they've gone to the bathroom. And I

2323
03:35:22.920 --> 03:35:27.159
thought to myself, you know what, I'm about to eat

2324
03:35:27.200 --> 03:35:31.319
this food and I haven't. I can't even remember the

2325
03:35:31.360 --> 03:35:34.559
last time washed my hands, so perhaps i'd go and

2326
03:35:36.120 --> 03:35:38.879
have a little shower. So I like to I like

2327
03:35:38.959 --> 03:35:41.520
to wash my hands when I have a shower once

2328
03:35:41.559 --> 03:35:52.680
a month. And I look and never never been able

2329
03:35:52.719 --> 03:36:01.600
to find a bathroom. It's just it's confuses me. I

2330
03:36:01.680 --> 03:36:05.920
mean even even like my boss, like when I worked

2331
03:36:05.959 --> 03:36:09.600
in the comedy club, he used to talk about the

2332
03:36:09.639 --> 03:36:12.840
bathroom because he was he was Irish, but he's also American.

2333
03:36:13.559 --> 03:36:18.760
He lived half his life in America, and he would

2334
03:36:18.760 --> 03:36:22.760
go on a bathroom. Tell me, who uh just be

2335
03:36:22.879 --> 03:36:26.760
talking about the bathroom? Make sure the lights are He

2336
03:36:26.799 --> 03:36:28.840
actually said it once to me. He said, make sure

2337
03:36:29.000 --> 03:36:35.879
all the light bulbs are on in the bathroom. So

2338
03:36:35.920 --> 03:36:40.719
I go in and I'm looking for the bathroom. I'm like, well,

2339
03:36:40.719 --> 03:36:45.959
all the lights are on in the club, all the

2340
03:36:46.079 --> 03:36:54.280
lights are on in DJ booth, all the lights are

2341
03:36:54.360 --> 03:37:03.239
on in the bar area, all the lights are on

2342
03:37:05.760 --> 03:37:16.280
in the kitchen, all the lights are on in the

2343
03:37:16.479 --> 03:37:20.639
storage area, like which you could get through to. That's

2344
03:37:20.680 --> 03:37:24.520
where they stored all the kegs of beer and stuff.

2345
03:37:25.000 --> 03:37:27.840
So the lights were on in there. That was quite bright. Actually,

2346
03:37:28.799 --> 03:37:32.479
bearing in mind you never have to read out there.

2347
03:37:34.079 --> 03:37:38.799
It was like a really nice light for reading. It

2348
03:37:38.920 --> 03:37:42.639
almost felt if you had your eyes closed, like you

2349
03:37:42.840 --> 03:37:51.799
weren't inside, like you was perhaps actually just felt like

2350
03:37:51.879 --> 03:37:54.440
you were standing under really bright light. It's going to

2351
03:37:54.479 --> 03:37:57.799
say it could be anywhere, couldn't it. Yeah, maybe that's

2352
03:37:57.879 --> 03:38:04.000
not a good example. All the lights are on in

2353
03:38:04.079 --> 03:38:09.719
the stairway, the staircase going on the way up. The

2354
03:38:09.840 --> 03:38:16.840
lights were on in the office, the first office. The

2355
03:38:16.959 --> 03:38:19.120
lights have worked. I mean they were on. They worked.

2356
03:38:19.559 --> 03:38:22.200
I didn't leave all the lights on because that would

2357
03:38:22.239 --> 03:38:27.079
be wasteful, but testing them. There was a couple of

2358
03:38:27.159 --> 03:38:31.319
light bulbs that are gone in the comics room, and

2359
03:38:31.360 --> 03:38:34.719
that's where the comedians would hang out at night after

2360
03:38:34.799 --> 03:38:37.600
the show or maybe it's like a I suppose you

2361
03:38:37.600 --> 03:38:40.520
could classic like a green room in a way, so

2362
03:38:40.840 --> 03:38:43.600
the comedians would get ready before the show and stuff.

2363
03:38:47.079 --> 03:38:52.680
It also had a pool table that's where the lights were.

2364
03:38:52.799 --> 03:38:57.239
This year there was this is weird. There was three

2365
03:38:57.399 --> 03:39:02.399
because the bunch of lights on top of the pool

2366
03:39:02.479 --> 03:39:07.680
table like a head and three lights were missing. But

2367
03:39:07.719 --> 03:39:10.959
I swear you couldn't tell. I mean you could if

2368
03:39:11.000 --> 03:39:14.559
you looked, But if you didn't look, I mean that

2369
03:39:14.920 --> 03:39:17.000
could be the art. Yeah, And I suppose you could

2370
03:39:17.040 --> 03:39:20.559
argue that about anything. You can't see. This is the

2371
03:39:20.639 --> 03:39:26.200
moon if you don't look. But we notice the moon

2372
03:39:26.360 --> 03:39:28.920
because I can't see if there's a sun if you

2373
03:39:28.959 --> 03:39:33.639
don't look. Yeah, you can tell the sun. How if

2374
03:39:33.639 --> 03:39:36.520
you don't look, because we wouldn't be here if there

2375
03:39:36.600 --> 03:39:41.479
wasn't a sun. Some people get angry though, if you

2376
03:39:41.600 --> 03:39:52.879
bring science into an argument. Oh oh, so I then

2377
03:39:53.000 --> 03:39:57.319
go into the bar because there's another bar upstairs and

2378
03:39:57.920 --> 03:40:06.719
there's no yeah, the light bulbs are working in there.

2379
03:40:10.360 --> 03:40:23.559
Then well, oh yeah, I went behind the bar in

2380
03:40:23.799 --> 03:40:31.799
the nightclub because it was a separate club to downstairs

2381
03:40:31.879 --> 03:40:35.319
where the comedy club was, and they had their own

2382
03:40:36.200 --> 03:40:43.040
lighting system and all the lights were finding there. That

2383
03:40:43.200 --> 03:40:48.319
was very well organized. Upstairs, completely different staff to downstairs.

2384
03:40:49.680 --> 03:40:57.559
Sometimes there's a bit of an overlap. For example, when

2385
03:40:57.639 --> 03:41:04.000
it was a particularly busy evening upstairs, they might get

2386
03:41:04.120 --> 03:41:08.559
some of the staff from downstairs to help. If it

2387
03:41:08.719 --> 03:41:15.440
was a quieter night downstairs during that overlap between eleven

2388
03:41:15.840 --> 03:41:21.920
and two, or maybe ten and two, because the nightclub

2389
03:41:21.959 --> 03:41:26.479
would open around ten, the comedy club would open around seven.

2390
03:41:28.040 --> 03:41:32.319
The nightclub would start getting busy, maybe between eleven and

2391
03:41:32.440 --> 03:41:38.760
twelve the comedy club would start. Sometimes people would be

2392
03:41:38.840 --> 03:41:43.399
leaving and that would be the end they'd leave. But

2393
03:41:43.520 --> 03:41:46.440
then at the weekend when the nightclub was on as well,

2394
03:41:49.799 --> 03:41:57.440
the comedy club had a disco tool two o'clock, and

2395
03:41:59.559 --> 03:42:05.239
sometimes it was quiet, sometimes it was really busy. So

2396
03:42:05.399 --> 03:42:08.000
if it was really busy down there, maybe the staff

2397
03:42:08.120 --> 03:42:12.280
upstairs in the nightclub, if it wasn't busy, would come

2398
03:42:12.399 --> 03:42:18.479
down for a little while. And sometimes if it was

2399
03:42:18.639 --> 03:42:26.319
really busy upstairs and quiet downstairs, a member of staff

2400
03:42:26.399 --> 03:42:32.079
might go upstairs for a couple of hours. The same

2401
03:42:32.200 --> 03:42:37.280
kind of thing is if they if upstairs run out

2402
03:42:37.280 --> 03:42:42.639
of glasses, because it was much harder to collect glasses

2403
03:42:42.799 --> 03:42:47.200
in the nightclub than it was in the comedy club

2404
03:42:48.639 --> 03:42:54.719
because technically, well, I mean everyone was seated in the

2405
03:42:54.760 --> 03:42:59.399
comedy club apart from those people at the bar, But

2406
03:42:59.559 --> 03:43:05.639
then tickets weren't sold to those people in the bar.

2407
03:43:06.159 --> 03:43:08.399
They didn't you know, I'm talking about that at the

2408
03:43:08.479 --> 03:43:13.079
bar in the comedy club, so it's only set. Seats

2409
03:43:13.079 --> 03:43:18.120
were only, or rather admissions only for people seating. No

2410
03:43:18.200 --> 03:43:27.920
one's standing, although people seated could go and stand at

2411
03:43:27.920 --> 03:43:31.200
the bar if they wanted, because there was doors in between,

2412
03:43:31.280 --> 03:43:34.440
so they could still hear the show and see the show,

2413
03:43:34.600 --> 03:43:39.280
but they might want to have a little chat or

2414
03:43:39.360 --> 03:43:49.760
maybe go we wis. And because it was easier to

2415
03:43:49.840 --> 03:43:56.600
collect glasses down there, it meant that they never really

2416
03:43:56.719 --> 03:44:06.159
ran out. But up there it was mainly standing. There

2417
03:44:06.200 --> 03:44:14.120
were some seats, there was mainly standing, and there's a

2418
03:44:14.159 --> 03:44:17.280
little bit of dancing, but it wasn't really a dancing nightclub.

2419
03:44:17.399 --> 03:44:24.639
It was more I suppose it was dancing, but it

2420
03:44:24.760 --> 03:44:28.520
seemed to me more just a kind of a gathering

2421
03:44:31.079 --> 03:44:42.360
nightclub experience instead of dancing nightclub experience. But then I

2422
03:44:42.479 --> 03:44:46.200
didn't really go up there very often because I'm not

2423
03:44:46.360 --> 03:44:54.120
really not really a nightcluby person. I did get up there,

2424
03:44:54.159 --> 03:44:58.360
I mean probably I've probably been up there hundreds of times,

2425
03:44:58.399 --> 03:45:01.600
but I mean I didn't got there regularly as in

2426
03:45:01.840 --> 03:45:08.760
sort of staying the whole night, and I probably went

2427
03:45:08.879 --> 03:45:15.959
there more often once I had left London, but it

2428
03:45:16.040 --> 03:45:24.920
would only be four, maybe an hour after the comedy

2429
03:45:25.000 --> 03:45:28.920
finished at the comedy club, or I might walk between

2430
03:45:28.959 --> 03:45:33.440
the two and hang out with the doorman that I knew,

2431
03:45:35.639 --> 03:45:37.360
so that would be kind of what I did. And

2432
03:45:37.520 --> 03:45:44.040
maybe i'd go upstairs to the to the nightclub because

2433
03:45:44.079 --> 03:45:47.959
I knew the back entrance, so I could sometimes I

2434
03:45:48.079 --> 03:45:52.680
go up that way. And it was also a fire

2435
03:45:52.840 --> 03:45:56.079
escape as well, but you couldn't get in and get out.

2436
03:45:56.239 --> 03:45:59.440
You couldn't get in. All they've taken me. I suppose

2437
03:45:59.479 --> 03:46:02.079
a few you could open the door and let someone in,

2438
03:46:03.399 --> 03:46:07.520
and thought about that are too late now it's been

2439
03:46:07.600 --> 03:46:12.879
closed for forever now and closed for wow, quite a

2440
03:46:12.920 --> 03:46:22.200
few years, six years, probably seven years even maybe. Oh

2441
03:46:26.399 --> 03:46:30.440
so sometimes the nightclub, because people were standing around, it

2442
03:46:30.559 --> 03:46:34.719
was harder to collect the glasses because you couldn't really

2443
03:46:34.920 --> 03:46:41.280
see because it's a much darker environment than a comedy club.

2444
03:46:41.639 --> 03:46:44.559
Couldn't really see where the glasses were or if the

2445
03:46:44.600 --> 03:46:51.399
glasses were full or empty. It's so much noisier than

2446
03:46:51.719 --> 03:46:55.200
the comedy club. So during the break times it was

2447
03:46:55.280 --> 03:47:00.639
quite easier to collect glasses because other thing, you don't

2448
03:47:00.719 --> 03:47:03.840
have break times in a nightclub dere where all the

2449
03:47:03.920 --> 03:47:05.799
lights come on and you can kind of just have

2450
03:47:05.920 --> 03:47:11.360
a look around. Where do I leave that banana? You know?

2451
03:47:12.079 --> 03:47:19.120
So I think that sometimes the nightclub, if you got

2452
03:47:19.200 --> 03:47:22.159
busy and they didn't have a chance to collect the glasses,

2453
03:47:22.280 --> 03:47:25.719
and they were running out of glasses, then what they

2454
03:47:25.760 --> 03:47:30.760
would do is they'd send a member of staff downstairs

2455
03:47:32.600 --> 03:47:38.000
and ask them to go and collect some glasses, maybe

2456
03:47:38.040 --> 03:47:40.959
a box of glasses, and bring them back up again.

2457
03:47:43.079 --> 03:47:45.680
Or perhaps what they'd do is just send a message

2458
03:47:45.760 --> 03:47:49.680
down because they had a walkie talkie system where they

2459
03:47:49.760 --> 03:47:53.520
could communicate. I don't know why I'm mentioned in the

2460
03:47:53.559 --> 03:47:57.000
word communicate, because that is most people know what a

2461
03:47:57.120 --> 03:48:01.879
walkie talkie is. It's for communication, isn't it. It's not

2462
03:48:01.959 --> 03:48:13.520
for whiskey and eggs, you know, it's and yeah, so

2463
03:48:13.959 --> 03:48:17.440
le's sometimes I do that. That's what that bar is.

2464
03:48:18.680 --> 03:48:21.840
The nightclub itself. All the lights seemed to be working.

2465
03:48:26.680 --> 03:48:30.479
The entrance to the bar were fine, seemed to be fine.

2466
03:48:30.479 --> 03:48:35.239
All the lights were on there. I went outside the

2467
03:48:35.280 --> 03:48:38.479
club because it was all very bright, so I just

2468
03:48:38.600 --> 03:48:47.719
checked the lights there and it was very colorful. They

2469
03:48:47.799 --> 03:48:52.440
did get quite a lot of walking by traffic or

2470
03:48:52.600 --> 03:48:56.680
foot traffic, and they call it in the not in

2471
03:48:56.719 --> 03:48:59.280
the early days. In the early days it was just

2472
03:48:59.319 --> 03:49:06.000
an alleyway full of mills and full of you know,

2473
03:49:06.120 --> 03:49:10.040
it was an industrial area in East London, in Shoreditch.

2474
03:49:11.200 --> 03:49:14.200
It was not a nice place because it was all

2475
03:49:14.360 --> 03:49:20.719
pretty much derelict when they first opened in nineteen ninety.

2476
03:49:22.799 --> 03:49:26.120
I rocked up in ninety one January and they'd been

2477
03:49:26.239 --> 03:49:30.719
there for I don't know, less than a year, I think.

2478
03:49:34.600 --> 03:49:38.760
And I remember walking home from there and there was

2479
03:49:38.879 --> 03:49:41.639
no one around. You'd walk there and there'd be no

2480
03:49:41.719 --> 03:49:49.719
one around. There's nothing, no, just nothing. It's not nothing,

2481
03:49:50.280 --> 03:49:54.079
there's nothing around, nothing there. And then as time went

2482
03:49:54.159 --> 03:50:02.600
by it just started to build up. The A cafe

2483
03:50:02.760 --> 03:50:08.040
opened opposite, a newsagent opened because it was literally just

2484
03:50:08.280 --> 03:50:13.280
up the road from the city center. So it's around

2485
03:50:13.319 --> 03:50:21.479
the corner from Old Street Tube station. And if you

2486
03:50:22.079 --> 03:50:24.440
turn and right, so you come out the club, you

2487
03:50:24.559 --> 03:50:29.000
turn right, go to the end of the road, turn

2488
03:50:29.120 --> 03:50:33.000
right again and just keep walking. That leads you to

2489
03:50:33.120 --> 03:50:37.799
Liverpool Street. But if you come out of the club,

2490
03:50:37.879 --> 03:50:42.079
turn left, walk, keep walking, keep walking, keep walking. It's

2491
03:50:42.159 --> 03:50:46.360
quite quite a few It's just one road, but it's

2492
03:50:46.399 --> 03:50:49.319
broken up into I think three or four different bits

2493
03:50:50.280 --> 03:50:57.040
and that's Old Street and then Liverpool Street Station. As

2494
03:50:57.120 --> 03:51:04.360
you walk down there, the last section of roads once

2495
03:51:04.440 --> 03:51:08.680
you crossed the road, the last section is all city.

2496
03:51:08.879 --> 03:51:13.600
It's all mess big buildings and it's like financial stuff

2497
03:51:13.639 --> 03:51:19.120
and I guess I don't know, banks maybe, and the

2498
03:51:19.200 --> 03:51:24.319
train station and opposite Liverpool Street Station is a police station.

2499
03:51:28.280 --> 03:51:33.040
I think there's a news agents there as well, and

2500
03:51:33.159 --> 03:51:38.680
there's a restaurant cafe thing and I'm not sure what

2501
03:51:38.840 --> 03:51:47.600
to call it. It's been there forever. And they get

2502
03:51:47.639 --> 03:51:50.280
a lot of traffic, a lot of people going in there.

2503
03:51:50.639 --> 03:51:57.040
I mean, they're exactly opposite the entrance and the exit

2504
03:51:57.440 --> 03:52:03.440
to Liverpool Street Station. One of the busiest train stations.

2505
03:52:04.879 --> 03:52:08.680
I'd say, possibly even in the world. It's like very busy,

2506
03:52:09.639 --> 03:52:12.920
just due to the fact that where it's stationed, where

2507
03:52:12.959 --> 03:52:17.319
it's stationed, where the station is stationed, they get a

2508
03:52:17.360 --> 03:52:20.799
lot of people go through there every day. So to

2509
03:52:21.040 --> 03:52:27.319
imagine having a place where you can buy sausage, sandwiches

2510
03:52:27.520 --> 03:52:34.520
and cups of coffee and stuff like that, it's sort

2511
03:52:34.559 --> 03:52:38.000
of gold mine, isn't it. And probably a little bit

2512
03:52:38.159 --> 03:52:45.079
less so now with the advent of Costa coffee and

2513
03:52:46.040 --> 03:52:50.719
Nero and stuff like that in recent years. By recent years,

2514
03:52:50.760 --> 03:52:57.719
I mean the last four decades probably, but there's quite

2515
03:52:57.719 --> 03:53:01.360
a few of those dotted around, I think inside and

2516
03:53:01.559 --> 03:53:13.959
outside of Liverpool Street station. Costas Costa coffee. But the

2517
03:53:14.120 --> 03:53:16.760
news agents that's quite a good thing to have. They

2518
03:53:16.840 --> 03:53:23.680
must get so much business. It's almost like a perfect

2519
03:53:23.879 --> 03:53:33.280
situation because first of all, you've got traffic technically, like

2520
03:53:33.479 --> 03:53:37.440
let's say the cafe from all over the world. You've

2521
03:53:37.440 --> 03:53:40.760
got people from all over the world coming into eat.

2522
03:53:43.159 --> 03:53:46.639
It wasn't a big place either, but a lot of

2523
03:53:46.639 --> 03:53:49.319
people come and get takeaways. You know, they can't get

2524
03:53:49.319 --> 03:53:54.280
their sandwiches or whatever for their breakfast or whatever for

2525
03:53:55.799 --> 03:54:05.000
going to work or on the way home. So not

2526
03:54:05.159 --> 03:54:10.040
only is it it's there, you've got people. You've got

2527
03:54:10.079 --> 03:54:15.159
the regulars who work in the city coming in in

2528
03:54:15.280 --> 03:54:19.840
the morning, maybe buying coffee. I mean they might not

2529
03:54:19.959 --> 03:54:23.120
buy coffee anymore so much, but it's still going to

2530
03:54:23.159 --> 03:54:27.200
be cheaper than Costas because Costa coffee. Though I don't

2531
03:54:27.200 --> 03:54:32.440
think it's like hugely expensive, it's still it's about time,

2532
03:54:32.600 --> 03:54:34.600
isn't it. Because if you if you're going to go

2533
03:54:34.680 --> 03:54:37.319
and queue up to get your Costa coffee, bias is

2534
03:54:37.360 --> 03:54:39.600
not an advert for Costa, by the way, It's just

2535
03:54:39.680 --> 03:54:41.920
I'll be living out a Costa coffee for two weeks.

2536
03:54:44.479 --> 03:54:47.639
I actually had a coffee the other day. You might

2537
03:54:47.680 --> 03:54:49.239
be thinking, why do you keep going in there then

2538
03:54:49.280 --> 03:54:51.360
if you're not going to if you're not buying coffee,

2539
03:54:53.920 --> 03:54:58.319
I just I like the deck, or no, I was gonna,

2540
03:54:58.959 --> 03:55:03.719
I don't. I've been getting sandwiches, drinks, cold drinks. I

2541
03:55:03.760 --> 03:55:07.639
didn't want a hot drink in this weather. Cold drinks,

2542
03:55:08.120 --> 03:55:14.440
and maybe a little packet of biscuits and these little

2543
03:55:14.559 --> 03:55:19.520
cheese toasties have been having over the last couple of weeks.

2544
03:55:21.719 --> 03:55:32.680
And the other day, I don't know which day it

2545
03:55:33.120 --> 03:55:38.200
might have been Friday, I think it was, or it

2546
03:55:38.360 --> 03:55:42.000
might have been Saturday. But I think it was Friday.

2547
03:55:42.719 --> 03:55:47.639
But then again, it might have been Thursday, because I'm

2548
03:55:47.760 --> 03:55:55.680
losing track of the days. I got a coffee for

2549
03:55:56.000 --> 03:55:59.600
him for I've golet sausages and I've got sausage. I'm

2550
03:55:59.600 --> 03:56:02.879
notting it. I got a coffee for me, got sausages

2551
03:56:02.959 --> 03:56:05.079
for me. I do get a sausage roll the other day,

2552
03:56:05.639 --> 03:56:09.559
but it was a sausage in a roll as opposed

2553
03:56:09.600 --> 03:56:15.079
to a sausage roll and I didn't end up eating

2554
03:56:15.120 --> 03:56:18.399
it because I brought it home. I was hungry, but

2555
03:56:19.079 --> 03:56:21.399
at the same time and I just wanted to get back,

2556
03:56:22.280 --> 03:56:27.399
so I bought that. I didn't I didn't end up

2557
03:56:27.440 --> 03:56:30.399
eating it, so I gave it to Vinnie and he

2558
03:56:30.600 --> 03:56:44.479
ate the sausages. What we did on Saturday, Yeah, it

2559
03:56:44.639 --> 03:56:48.280
was yesterday. It seems like days ago. I think it

2560
03:56:48.399 --> 03:56:54.360
was yesterday. We went me and uncle sausages. Went down

2561
03:56:55.399 --> 03:57:03.319
to Costa. Oh, yeah, that's it because the local Costa

2562
03:57:03.399 --> 03:57:08.040
to where he stays. He's current hotel room in what's

2563
03:57:08.079 --> 03:57:11.680
it hospital that because there's two costers and one is

2564
03:57:11.760 --> 03:57:14.520
closed at the weekends. It's just a small one. You

2565
03:57:14.639 --> 03:57:17.120
can't sit in there, I mean you can, you'd have

2566
03:57:17.200 --> 03:57:20.840
to sit on the floor and it's frowned upon. So

2567
03:57:23.479 --> 03:57:29.399
that's not open at the weekend. But the large one

2568
03:57:29.559 --> 03:57:35.000
is and there's seating for I don't know. I feel

2569
03:57:35.040 --> 03:57:40.280
I've almost got the map in my head. One two, three,

2570
03:57:41.280 --> 03:57:48.959
one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eights, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.

2571
03:57:49.399 --> 03:57:57.360
There's sixteen probably i'd say about fifty people, maybe a

2572
03:57:57.399 --> 03:58:03.959
little bit more. It's quite space. Most people just order

2573
03:58:04.040 --> 03:58:06.600
to take out and I think part of that is

2574
03:58:06.719 --> 03:58:10.520
because of the weather, because there's a lot of people

2575
03:58:10.680 --> 03:58:18.479
sitting outside who I imagine wouldn't be sitting outside if

2576
03:58:19.120 --> 03:58:25.479
it wasn't warm. But then there's a lot of staff

2577
03:58:26.559 --> 03:58:30.200
sitting outside as well, so they would probably still be

2578
03:58:30.479 --> 03:58:40.639
ordering food and coffees and stuff like that. Maybe they'd

2579
03:58:40.680 --> 03:58:43.000
be sitting in if they didn't have anywhere to go,

2580
03:58:43.639 --> 03:58:46.479
so they might be sitting in the restaurant. Bit I

2581
03:58:46.639 --> 03:58:50.440
say restaurant, but you know, I don't know if we

2582
03:58:50.760 --> 03:58:56.680
do really need to call every seating place where you

2583
03:58:56.840 --> 03:59:03.479
eat a restaurant. I think it means restaurants a little

2584
03:59:03.520 --> 03:59:17.319
bit almost devalues restaurants because you've got someone they it's

2585
03:59:17.399 --> 03:59:23.280
their life's ambition to open a doughnut, a donut and

2586
03:59:23.360 --> 03:59:28.399
tomato restaurant or donut omelet restaurant, you know, and that's

2587
03:59:28.479 --> 03:59:36.280
their specialty, doughnut omelets, and you know, they put everything

2588
03:59:36.360 --> 03:59:42.879
into it, their life savings, and they've got this nice

2589
03:59:42.959 --> 03:59:46.280
little place, and they found somewhere that's almost shaped like

2590
03:59:46.360 --> 03:59:52.879
a donut and an omelet, and they've got the older,

2591
03:59:52.920 --> 03:59:56.440
they've got the logo, which is basically a donut with

2592
03:59:56.559 --> 04:00:03.079
an egg sticking in it. It's like perfect, everything's really good,

2593
04:00:05.000 --> 04:00:14.520
and they, you know, they go to work with pride.

2594
04:00:16.639 --> 04:00:20.559
They built up this business and maybe it was a

2595
04:00:20.719 --> 04:00:24.079
new thing at the time and everyone some people thought, uh,

2596
04:00:26.600 --> 04:00:33.479
omelets with doughnuts on, that's just weird. But then you know,

2597
04:00:33.760 --> 04:00:38.000
over time people got accustomed to it and they're not

2598
04:00:38.159 --> 04:00:42.520
really happy, and they've got maybe they've got a restaurant

2599
04:00:42.600 --> 04:00:46.799
review in the local paper and you know, things are

2600
04:00:46.840 --> 04:00:54.440
going good, and perhaps they decided to go out and

2601
04:00:54.600 --> 04:00:58.559
someone says, oh, well no, maybe they get a review.

2602
04:00:58.680 --> 04:01:01.799
And the per and says, oh, I'd like to do

2603
04:01:01.840 --> 04:01:04.680
a review as well. And he says, oh, who are

2604
04:01:04.719 --> 04:01:08.639
you so I do refuse her restaurants. It's a local

2605
04:01:08.760 --> 04:01:13.520
magazine and it's basically just for you know, this would

2606
04:01:13.559 --> 04:01:19.840
be perfect, and oh really he said, yeah really, Oh

2607
04:01:19.959 --> 04:01:23.399
that's exciting. Oh isn't it. Yeah? He is exciting, isn't

2608
04:01:23.440 --> 04:01:30.520
it Hmmmm? And eventually they stopped making noises at each other,

2609
04:01:30.639 --> 04:01:35.040
and one of them says, so can I take some pictures?

2610
04:01:35.319 --> 04:01:39.399
Shall I? And the the other bloke says, no, Well,

2611
04:01:39.399 --> 04:01:41.319
I'm the one doing a review. Perhaps I should take

2612
04:01:41.319 --> 04:01:45.680
the pictures. So the restaurant owner says okay then, and

2613
04:01:47.799 --> 04:01:51.600
you know, they both have a cuddle and he's so

2614
04:01:51.760 --> 04:01:55.079
excited his restaurant's going to be in a review in

2615
04:01:55.159 --> 04:02:03.719
a magazine. And you know, he says, well, how am

2616
04:02:03.760 --> 04:02:06.559
I going to see this magazine because I don't know

2617
04:02:06.600 --> 04:02:09.360
where it is. It's because it's especially this magazine. And

2618
04:02:09.920 --> 04:02:13.799
the bloke said, well, I'll send it to you. It's

2619
04:02:13.879 --> 04:02:17.799
such a good time here, it's been wonderful. I'll send

2620
04:02:17.840 --> 04:02:21.159
you the magazine. And then he sends in the magazine

2621
04:02:21.520 --> 04:02:24.920
in the post. You know, the restaurant owners all excited. Ah,

2622
04:02:25.200 --> 04:02:29.200
magazine's coming through soon magazine and it looks through it.

2623
04:02:29.520 --> 04:02:31.959
He gets it and it's like, it's not on the

2624
04:02:32.000 --> 04:02:35.239
front cover. Okay, it's fair enough. This is the first

2625
04:02:35.680 --> 04:02:38.319
first magazine with you don't expect to be on a

2626
04:02:38.360 --> 04:02:42.639
front cover. But there's a mention, a little mention in

2627
04:02:42.719 --> 04:02:45.440
the in the corner of the right hand side, would

2628
04:02:45.479 --> 04:02:49.520
you eat here? Question mark? Question mark? Question mark? And

2629
04:02:49.639 --> 04:02:57.360
he thought, oh, I hope that's us. And he gets

2630
04:02:57.440 --> 04:03:01.719
there and he sees that there's not just his review

2631
04:03:01.879 --> 04:03:09.479
on him, but he noticed that there's reviews for he

2632
04:03:09.600 --> 04:03:18.840
can't even say it out loud, a burger chain it's

2633
04:03:18.840 --> 04:03:21.959
an American burger chain. It's not as well known in

2634
04:03:22.000 --> 04:03:27.360
the UK as it probably will be, but it's nevertheless

2635
04:03:28.040 --> 04:03:30.799
a review on a new burger chain that's popular in

2636
04:03:30.840 --> 04:03:35.360
America and it's the first one to be in that area.

2637
04:03:37.239 --> 04:03:44.399
So this restaurant owner, it's furious because he doesn't class

2638
04:03:44.680 --> 04:03:47.959
that as been a restaurant someone where you can buy

2639
04:03:48.000 --> 04:03:51.479
a burger and chips or fries or whatever and sit

2640
04:03:51.600 --> 04:03:55.559
down and eat it. That is not a restaurant experience.

2641
04:03:57.639 --> 04:04:03.319
I mean, ultimately, if you're going to have his opinion,

2642
04:04:03.399 --> 04:04:07.639
not mine, his opinion is if you're gonna a restaurant

2643
04:04:07.719 --> 04:04:12.079
is somewhere that you sit down. Maybe you have a

2644
04:04:12.159 --> 04:04:16.120
bit of lift music that's nice, you know, elevator music,

2645
04:04:16.639 --> 04:04:20.680
having piping, have it piping out, and maybe have speakers

2646
04:04:20.760 --> 04:04:32.120
underneath each chair for the ambience. And it's important if

2647
04:04:32.159 --> 04:04:35.840
you have really really tall chairs, because he said that

2648
04:04:36.120 --> 04:04:42.280
there's something about self esteem sometimes being waited on. People

2649
04:04:42.360 --> 04:04:44.680
can I don't know. It just seems a bit strange

2650
04:04:45.319 --> 04:04:48.479
to English people. So what he thought he would do

2651
04:04:49.280 --> 04:04:52.760
is to have this big, big chairs which you had

2652
04:04:52.799 --> 04:04:54.719
to climb up like a little ladder. You have to

2653
04:04:54.760 --> 04:04:58.840
climb up and climb on and you'd have to tie

2654
04:04:58.879 --> 04:05:02.479
yourself in because he in safety that found that out

2655
04:05:02.520 --> 04:05:09.399
the wrong way. So a little seat belt and I

2656
04:05:09.479 --> 04:05:14.520
mean they were to start with the Health and safety

2657
04:05:14.879 --> 04:05:18.399
were considering little parachutes as well, but didn't didn't make

2658
04:05:18.479 --> 04:05:20.600
him do that as long as he had a nice

2659
04:05:20.639 --> 04:05:26.799
spongy floor covered in it was I say, it wasn't

2660
04:05:26.840 --> 04:05:32.479
really sponges. It's more trampolini, really, but it seems to

2661
04:05:32.559 --> 04:05:35.639
do the job. Especially the good thing about it, though,

2662
04:05:35.799 --> 04:05:37.600
good thing about having a trampoline on a floor in

2663
04:05:37.639 --> 04:05:40.799
a restaurant is if you drop your food, you can

2664
04:05:40.879 --> 04:05:45.040
catch it again. So that's quite good if you drop

2665
04:05:45.120 --> 04:05:51.239
your pie or whatever it is you drink. So so

2666
04:05:51.360 --> 04:05:56.120
he wanted something a bit more traditional like that, like

2667
04:05:56.200 --> 04:06:04.920
a big long taye big long chairs. Music ambient, not

2668
04:06:05.079 --> 04:06:14.799
necessarily lift or you know, elevator music, maybe just you

2669
04:06:14.879 --> 04:06:17.920
know music you listen to when you're on hold. I

2670
04:06:18.040 --> 04:06:21.200
love that music, you know, when you're on hold to

2671
04:06:21.280 --> 04:06:25.920
a big company and maybe it could be a bank,

2672
04:06:26.239 --> 04:06:31.520
or it could be electric gas company and they put

2673
04:06:31.559 --> 04:06:36.479
you on hold and you get some do that music.

2674
04:06:37.280 --> 04:06:39.840
Sometimes I just phone up just to have a nice listen.

2675
04:06:40.520 --> 04:06:45.079
So relaxing. I get it. Really, it jolts me when

2676
04:06:45.120 --> 04:06:47.600
they answer the phone. Eventually I have to hang up

2677
04:06:47.639 --> 04:06:49.559
again and go back at the back of the queue.

2678
04:06:50.760 --> 04:06:53.840
You know. It's a weird conversation though, for some reason,

2679
04:06:54.040 --> 04:06:56.360
because when they do come through, so hello, how can

2680
04:06:56.399 --> 04:06:59.879
I help? Oh, I'm just listening to here for the music.

2681
04:07:01.360 --> 04:07:05.520
Excuse me, I'm just just listening to the music. What

2682
04:07:05.600 --> 04:07:09.760
do you mean you're listening to the music. I don't

2683
04:07:09.760 --> 04:07:13.280
know how else to say it. Really, I was listening

2684
04:07:13.360 --> 04:07:17.680
to the music. There's no other way to say it.

2685
04:07:19.399 --> 04:07:21.719
I can't dress it up in a different way. That's

2686
04:07:21.760 --> 04:07:24.040
what I was doing. I was listening to the music.

2687
04:07:25.040 --> 04:07:30.799
Your music, our music. Well, I don't mean, I don't

2688
04:07:30.840 --> 04:07:34.559
imagine you actually wrote the music. I mean, I'm sure

2689
04:07:34.600 --> 04:07:39.200
you're not just standing there playing a piano and someone's

2690
04:07:39.280 --> 04:07:44.239
with you with violin all day. And the lady said,

2691
04:07:44.280 --> 04:07:49.120
that's true. They're only coming for about two hours a day.

2692
04:07:49.719 --> 04:07:51.040
The rest of the time they just have it on

2693
04:07:51.120 --> 04:07:53.520
the loop, So have it live for two hours a day.

2694
04:07:55.040 --> 04:08:00.239
And he said really, she said no, Oh, was it

2695
04:08:00.319 --> 04:08:05.959
a joke? She said yeah. He said. You know the

2696
04:08:06.079 --> 04:08:08.040
problem with jokes is if you have to tell the

2697
04:08:08.120 --> 04:08:14.559
person it's a joke. That gate's really really banging, isn't it.

2698
04:08:16.040 --> 04:08:20.159
I got a little solution for that. And the lady

2699
04:08:20.280 --> 04:08:21.920
on the phone said, what are you talking about a gate?

2700
04:08:24.440 --> 04:08:26.360
And he said to her, no, that was that was

2701
04:08:26.440 --> 04:08:32.399
Jason talking. Gets confused, and it's just one voice who's talking.

2702
04:08:32.479 --> 04:08:41.600
I don't know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. So

2703
04:08:41.799 --> 04:08:48.680
that was his idea. He was just like, a proper restaurant.

2704
04:08:49.719 --> 04:08:54.559
Is that just going and buying some fish and chips

2705
04:08:54.719 --> 04:08:58.719
or a kebab and sit down on a chair does

2706
04:08:58.799 --> 04:09:03.719
not make something a restaurant. He had a bit of

2707
04:09:03.760 --> 04:09:12.719
a bad attitude really sometimes. So I went upstairs to

2708
04:09:12.840 --> 04:09:24.639
the office all the rooms because there was there was

2709
04:09:24.680 --> 04:09:31.799
a little kitchen it area, there was a ladder to

2710
04:09:32.120 --> 04:09:37.040
the roof, and then there was the actual office, and

2711
04:09:37.159 --> 04:09:40.280
there was a toilet as well, and all the lights

2712
04:09:40.319 --> 04:09:44.639
were everywhere, all working, and that was the last place

2713
04:09:44.719 --> 04:09:46.399
I kind of looked. I looked everywhere else in the

2714
04:09:46.799 --> 04:09:52.479
in the club. So my boss was sitting at his desk.

2715
04:09:53.639 --> 04:09:56.040
He says, you all right, I said yeah. He said,

2716
04:09:56.079 --> 04:10:00.680
you look you look confused, you look worried. H said, oh, no,

2717
04:10:00.799 --> 04:10:03.200
it's just you asked me to do something earlier, and

2718
04:10:03.319 --> 04:10:10.680
I'm just struggling. He said, well, when he's seen your once,

2719
04:10:10.760 --> 04:10:15.200
I just just ask you to make sure the lights

2720
04:10:15.239 --> 04:10:17.600
are running the bathroom or the lights are working in

2721
04:10:17.639 --> 04:10:23.319
the bathroom. Said I can't find the bathroom. Where's the bathroom?

2722
04:10:23.360 --> 04:10:31.879
Where do you hide it? Yeah? Didn't last much longer

2723
04:10:31.920 --> 04:10:36.920
in that job for some reason, so I still don't know.

2724
04:10:38.000 --> 04:10:43.760
It's like this kind of it's like Narnia that Americans

2725
04:10:43.799 --> 04:10:46.920
have got this place called the bathroom, but I can

2726
04:10:47.000 --> 04:10:51.319
never find it, whether it's in a restaurant, whether it's

2727
04:10:52.200 --> 04:10:57.200
a shopping center, whether it's an airport. Whenever I hear

2728
04:10:57.319 --> 04:11:00.440
someone saying, if you've got a bear from to the

2729
04:11:00.479 --> 04:11:03.559
beer room is that's not very good accent? But can

2730
04:11:03.639 --> 04:11:06.559
you tell me where the bathroom is? And that wasn't

2731
04:11:06.559 --> 04:11:10.040
a very good accent either, was it really? Not? Really?

2732
04:11:11.159 --> 04:11:18.959
I say, oh, because they'd asked me, can you tell

2733
04:11:18.959 --> 04:11:21.760
me where the bathroom is? I said, yes, the top

2734
04:11:21.799 --> 04:11:24.159
of my stairs. If you come in the front door,

2735
04:11:24.239 --> 04:11:29.600
the top goes straight up, and that's where the bathroom is. Now.

2736
04:11:29.799 --> 04:11:31.399
They didn't I didn't realize they didn't want to know

2737
04:11:31.479 --> 04:11:35.920
where my bathroom was, And then I said, so, where's

2738
04:11:35.920 --> 04:11:38.760
your bathroom? Because I thought that's what the conversation was

2739
04:11:38.799 --> 04:11:44.760
about bathrooms. Because I read somewhere that if you're show

2740
04:11:44.760 --> 04:11:49.600
an interest in another person, it's good for report and

2741
04:11:51.719 --> 04:11:56.879
if they asked you a question, then fake being interested

2742
04:11:56.959 --> 04:11:59.959
in them. That's what it is. Pretend to be interested

2743
04:12:00.040 --> 04:12:04.479
did in them by asking them questions, which show to

2744
04:12:04.600 --> 04:12:10.200
them that you really really mean and you genuinely are

2745
04:12:10.319 --> 04:12:14.479
interested even though you're not. So that's why I did.

2746
04:12:14.639 --> 04:12:19.760
I just used to kind of copy the question and

2747
04:12:20.799 --> 04:12:27.879
boomerang it back. Technically boomerang. You can't boomerang something back,

2748
04:12:27.959 --> 04:12:30.479
can you, because it come back to me? Wouldn't it?

2749
04:12:32.920 --> 04:12:37.280
Do boomerangs actually work? I've never seen a boomerang work

2750
04:12:37.319 --> 04:12:48.760
in action anyone. So, yeah, we don't really have air

2751
04:12:48.840 --> 04:12:53.879
conditioning the hair in homes. You can get air conditioning

2752
04:12:54.040 --> 04:12:59.360
units that you can buy. I don't have one myself,

2753
04:13:00.159 --> 04:13:03.079
and you can buy things like fans. People have fans.

2754
04:13:05.280 --> 04:13:13.840
Fans is that's generally the solution in this country. Just

2755
04:13:13.920 --> 04:13:17.200
a general fan that maybe moves around a bit, go

2756
04:13:17.440 --> 04:13:21.680
some side to side and can blow some cool air.

2757
04:13:25.200 --> 04:13:29.000
That's kind of that's really it air conditioning not so much.

2758
04:13:30.760 --> 04:13:34.680
You can get air conditioning units that you can stick

2759
04:13:35.520 --> 04:13:39.719
like the tube outside of the window and have the

2760
04:13:39.840 --> 04:13:45.680
fan on and it kind of helps the air, but

2761
04:13:46.159 --> 04:13:51.239
generally I've only seen those in action probably three times,

2762
04:13:52.040 --> 04:13:55.719
once twice in two offices I worked in, and once

2763
04:13:56.159 --> 04:13:59.879
in the hospital. Outside of that, I haven't really seen

2764
04:14:00.159 --> 04:14:07.600
that very often. I mean, in Thailand, all the hotels

2765
04:14:07.639 --> 04:14:13.680
have got air conditioning as standard because of the natural weather.

2766
04:14:15.079 --> 04:14:21.040
But here, our natural weather is in the summer, I

2767
04:14:21.120 --> 04:14:24.879
can't imagine it. It's much more than twenty twenty degrees

2768
04:14:25.360 --> 04:14:32.120
in the summer averaged out. We get some like twenty

2769
04:14:32.200 --> 04:14:36.879
six days. Sometimes it's over thirty, but it's rare. It's

2770
04:14:37.000 --> 04:14:43.520
rare to be over thirty. But at the same time,

2771
04:14:43.600 --> 04:14:48.920
we don't get particularly cold weathers in England anyway. We

2772
04:14:49.040 --> 04:14:53.079
get cold days, but they're not like a cold day

2773
04:14:53.159 --> 04:14:57.079
here is maybe minus five. That's like probably as cold

2774
04:14:57.120 --> 04:15:00.600
as it's going to get. I mean that is cold, obviously,

2775
04:15:04.000 --> 04:15:08.559
but generally in the winter, unless it's icy is, it's

2776
04:15:08.680 --> 04:15:20.959
usually above above zero. But we don't end up with

2777
04:15:21.120 --> 04:15:27.879
like minus forty like in Russia or New York. They're

2778
04:15:27.879 --> 04:15:30.000
the only two places I am. I know that go

2779
04:15:30.319 --> 04:15:37.680
really really or Canada as well. Lots of countries get

2780
04:15:37.920 --> 04:15:40.399
really cold and they in the winter. We don't really

2781
04:15:40.479 --> 04:15:44.680
get that, but it doesn't stop us moaning about the weather,

2782
04:15:45.360 --> 04:15:52.680
because that is our given right. It's our hereditary, hereditary, heditory,

2783
04:15:53.000 --> 04:16:01.239
heredity ancestry. It's what we do. That's what I mean.

2784
04:16:05.200 --> 04:16:10.159
Tammy asks, do I have any tattoos? I do? I do?

2785
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I do? I do I do? On my right arm,

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I've got a tattoo of a I don't know what

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it is. I just tell people it was my mum

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or my girlfriend. Sometimes it's just basically like a dragon head.

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You're like a Chinese dragon in those parades, you know,

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thanks one of those things. But now I can hardly

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see what it is because it's so faded. I got

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it done when I was sixteen, so it's nearly forty

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years ago. I can't believe my right arm is. That

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arm is nearly fifty five years old. Okay, still works

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fifty five years old. BlimE me. It would have thought it? Hey,

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who would have thought it? Can I please go back

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to nineteen ninety two and be young and fruity again? Oh?

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I got no other tattoos, though I did think about, Yeah,

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I thought about getting some bit. Every time I thought

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about getting one, it was rude and I ended up not.

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You know, it's like, you know, tattoo on your back

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with a little arrow going down or things like that.

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You know, just it's just, I don't know, just just

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like just cheeky stuff. I thought about getting something on me.

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What's it getting something written on me? What's it? The

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tattoo there on me? Old Willy. I went to a

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few different tattoo places, but they just they tried and tried,

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but they couldn't find any tattoos small enough. So I

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didn't bother brilliant or willy joke at my expense, great brilliant.

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I thought about just having a word sorry on it. Sorry,

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I was sorry to disappoint you. But to be fair,

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if I could, I could, if I could fit the word,

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this is the sentence, sorry to disappoint you. They wouldn't

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be disappointed, would they. Uh. I do believe this is

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probably the end of the recording. I may have gone

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on a little bit, and this may have been the

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very much the longest let me boy to sleep recording

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I've ever done, ever, ever, ever, ever ever, that's so

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I'm going to go. Thank you for listening. Remember to

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be kind to yourself because you do deserve to be

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happy and be gentle with yourself. You deserve to feel safe.

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Lots of love, Bye,