May 23, 2025

(no music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1358 | 23rd May 2025

(no music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1358 | 23rd May 2025
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Hello, and welcome to jasonnew Land dot com. And this

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is Q and A Friday. Bla la la la la lulu. Yeah, Hi, Hi,

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So my name is ad Jason new Land. Please only

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listen when you can safely close your eyes. Right. It's

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one fifty five pm in the afternoon on Friday, the

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twenty third of Moy two thousand and five, No, two

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thousand and fifth, twenty twenty five. Wow, so nineteen ninety

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five O five, fifty thirty years ago. Now I'm just

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thinking it's weird. I've got these memories of stuff that

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happened thirty years ago, and just like, how can it

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really be thirty years ago? Right? So it's Q and

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A Friday. It's all right. Outside, it's it's a bit.

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It's kind of glum and bright, a little bit of

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both today out there. It's not cold, it's Yeah, there

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was a lot of activity. It disbuilded last night, a

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lot of door slamming, like you know, till early hours.

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I'm not quite sure what that was about, but I'm

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up here, so I didn't. I wasn't getting involved. I

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think it just might have just been a lot of

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a lot of traffic, perhaps maybe maybe a little bit

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of traffic. Oh that's nice sort of plane to come

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over while I'm doing this. How pleasant. So I got

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a message here on my Facebook group or my Facebook group,

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Jason Newlands Boring Group. You can find a link to

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that group by going to Jasonnewland dot com and it's

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literally right at the top. It is a banner at

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the top of the page. Join Jason Newland's boring group

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in click on that and it takes you straight there.

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I wonder what it is on the Facebook page, on

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the the on the phone. Yeah, they're both together as well,

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side by side, and I'll take you straight to the

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page and you can join. You can join. So I

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had a message from Claire Clara Claire. I'm not sure

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if I'm pronouncing that right. Claire Cloa, who hope my

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name on your podcast. Thank you for the welcome. You're welcome.

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Thank you for welcoming the welcome. I did do a

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recording yesterday. It was number one thousand, three hundred and

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fifty seven. That's weird. Got a fly A fly. I

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don't know if it's the same fly. It must be

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a different fly. It's weird because I just had Vinnie

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on my not on my lap, but to the left

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of me, as I was sitting down with my feet

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up and I was watching a boxing YouTube channel, and

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then he was asleep, and suddenly he just reached up

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and snapped out a fly. It's like one of those

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movies with those plants that move really quick, except shape

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as a jack russell. He's been a bit weird today,

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no more weird than any other time. A bit stroge.

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So what I'm going to do? Ah, I've got six. Nope,

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I haven't got There's a bird outside that goes like that.

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That wasn't too loud, so I thought it was one

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of the neighbors. So he used to have a neighbor

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that lived over the fence that he used to squawk

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like a pigeon. But early in the morning. I'm talking

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like six in the morning, five six in the morning,

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four in the morning, it'd be like doing that noise.

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He was a bit of a a character, this one.

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He doesn't live around here anymore, but I remember once

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he was my neighbor who lived the other side of

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the built of the block where he lived. I knew him,

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and he was like he was a friend, and he

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said he got woken up at about five in the morning,

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someone was outside his bedroom window, bearing in mind he

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lived upstairs, okay, these were like studio apartments. He looked

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outside and it was the neighbor from downstairs on a

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ladder painting his window frame pink. No apparent reason, just

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decided it would be a good idea that didn't end. Well,

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it's just that I don't think it was the choice

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of color. But you can't. First of all, these frames

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are not wooden, they're like double blazing frames, so it

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can't really be painting them, I don't think, and I'm

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not sure the counsel like that. Another thing he did

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is he would spend like he's got tight. He had

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a tiny little bit of grass in front or out

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the back, like a tiny little bit of grass that

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was kind of his little area. And I'm talking very small,

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very small little. If you think of the smallest garden,

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the half of it half that, you know, it's really

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tiny little. He would spend all day long mowing it.

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I mean you could literally probably cut it with scissors

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now scissors. In about half that time he was I

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don't know, it was just on pills, and he'd be

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doing it all day. Had another one lived over there.

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These are people who live over the fence. It's a

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different world over there. This bloke, he doesn't live there

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anymore either. He used to have palettes delivered, wooden palettes,

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like from a lorry. It'd have a big pile delivered

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and do this in the summer. I think. Yeah, so

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basically spend so this big, massive pile of palettes, wooden palettes.

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It's spend all day breaking them up with an axe,

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which was very noisy, as I'm sure you can imagine,

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all day long, and then the evening it'd have a bonfire.

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And that was his routine for the whole of the summer.

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So's noise all day, smoke all night. And bonfires, however

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lovely they may be, you know, are like a nice bonfire,

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but it's not great. I think bonfires are better in

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the winter because in the summer, I don't know about you,

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but I kind of liked to have my windows open.

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Probably need to have my windows open, like in the winter,

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in the in the evening, in the evening in the summer,

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and that's not ideal to have smoke coming in. But

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it's a different kind of smoke, isn't it. Bonfire smoke.

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I remember I was at a bonfire and it's a

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place that I lived. This is the Buddhist community, and

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it was this fire and there was a big like

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meeting together and giving one I suppose, like a party

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kind of thing, as much of a party as Buddhists

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can do. And I didn't even notice it until the

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next day. Every item of clothing that I'd worn that

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evening stunk like really bad. But I didn't notice the

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smaller smoke when I was out there because I wasn't

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even you know, I was avoiding the smoke. I was

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just near the fire, but you know, I wouldn't like

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stand there or sit there and then smoke pumping into me. Yeah,

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but quite smelly. Yeah. I had some strange had a

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fantasist living over there as well, a different bloke. Gossip.

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It's all gossip, isn't it. Yeah. He was unusual character.

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He's I mean, he was in all the national papers.

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He was quite famous. I couldn't believe it, but I

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got one right of im. Actually, but it was just

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one day. I'll do it. I could write a book.

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My name is to say that I could write a

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Guinness Book of records of everything. I've done, been through,

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and I'm thinking about herself that I could write a

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book just about the neighbors. I'd have to be very

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careful of see not to name any of them. But

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I don't think you'd even believe even ten percent of

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what I've seen and heard and experienced since I've lived here,

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and not just here, but all the other places I've lived,

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all the different houses I've shared. Wow, Seriously, you'd think

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I was making it up, and I probably would be.

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That's the problem. So I've got Mike. These are the

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people that have left me questions for today. So the

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very beginning, I'm going to mention everyone's name so you

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know that I have answered your question, maybe not very well,

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but I've at least attempted. So first of all is Mike.

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Then it's Ben, Cindy Hope, but I will mention Hope

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that she didn't actually ask the question, but it's part

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of the Cindy's question. And then Ali, oh Hope. Yeah,

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Pope has got a different she's got a question as well.

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And Sandy, So Sandy, Hope, Ali, Cindy, Ben, and Mike. Yeah.

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So it's one, two, three, four, five, six questions and

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I hope that those who asked the questions, those you

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have asked the questions, and when you hear the answers,

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I hope it's it's everything you hoped it would be.

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I just I don't know what I'm going to say,

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because you know I don't always tell the truth. So

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I'll try a little bit, okay. So Sebastian has mentioned

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b in another cover which he likes to do. I

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want to meet you at the beach tonight. What, as

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Sebastian wrote Jason, maybe he even wants to go to

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a hotel room every hour. Sebastian sends me another message

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he loves going on his AI things and if he

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sees a picture that is he just if you can

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see a way to make fun of me, he does.

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Right here we go. Mike has asked, as I was

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falling asleep last night to the Schools episode Schools, I

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was at the boring, the boring Monday's boring thing. I

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think I was wondering how much you plan out what

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you're going to say? Do you develop an outline or

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do you just jump in and wing it? Does your

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mind ever go blank and you find yourself at a

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loss for words? Right well, with the I'll talk just

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about the let me Buoy the sleep recordings, because with

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the occasionally I will work out what I'm roughly going

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to say. With the if I do a hypnosis recording,

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although nine nine percent of all my hypnosis recordings that

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are being just me talking off the top of my head,

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and the only preparation would be maybe having a concept.

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So if it was a relaxation technique, for example, and

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let's say it involved a biscuits in, I don't know

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why it would involve a biscuit in. So I'm saying

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I want to have a biscuit in, and I'm gonna

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crumble up all the biscuits and it just shake the

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biscuits and then make some holes in the biscuits here

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at the bottom and just shake them and watch those

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biscuit drops just filtered down, and as as they fall

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to filter down and fall out of the bottom of

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the biscuits in, you know, you feel more relaxed and

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calmer something like that. It's just sounds rubbish and it

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sounds a bit crummy. Oh, So with the let me

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boy to sleep, the most I do regarding preparation for

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most of them would be just to think about a subject.

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A lot of the times, when it comes to let's

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say Monday's boring objects, I don't know. Usually I don't

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know what I'm going to talk about until I start.

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I wasn't going to talk about I don't think I

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was even going to talk about schools when I first

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started that recording with the trivia Tuesday, yeah, I do.

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That's much more planned as far as you know. Look

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up the trivia bits and yes, there's a little bit

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more planning than that. And with a Q and A Fridays,

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of course, I have the questions in front of me,

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so in a sense, you plan what I'm going to

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talk about. But outside of that, no, I don't know.

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So when I didn't, I had a little skip through

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the questions before I started this, but I got no

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idea what I'm going to say until I say it.

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With the School's episode, for example, I ended up talking

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about schools, so I just went with it. I don't

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have any kind of outline or structure for what I'm

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going to talk about pretty much ever, other than when

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it's a if it's a trivia one, the structure is

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just reading out the trivia. The trivia's were thinking about

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something to talk about, and then focus on that subject

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and finding the trivia bits of information and maybe commenting

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on it. So it's organized, but not really Q and

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a Friday. It's just I just answer, just honestly ish

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if I can. But generally no, I don't. I don't

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have any idea what I'm going to talk about. I

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mean sometimes I don't. It's not that I my mind

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never really goes blank. It did. That was actually it's

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not totally true. I mean, I know I am a

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hero to a lot of you out there. Altogether, there's

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a hero if you look inside your pants, right, And

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I like, I quite like the idea that it is.

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I thought the way that the recording has come out

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that it would seem like they were just pretty much

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ad libbed, because they are. It's just me just talking.

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I didn't I didn't think they seemed very structured. I mean,

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a Q and a Friday is kind of structured in

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a sense of I'm just answering questions. So there is

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a degree of structure, and if I focus on let's say,

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a boring object, the only structure, okay, there is a

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structure with that in the sense of I choose a subject.

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So let's say if I choose mobile phones for an example,

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as a subject, I will have that little reminder in

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my head to bring the subject back mobile phones. So

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when I'm starting to talk about dolphins and you know,

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tree houses and stuff like that, then I realized, we've

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got to bring it back to mobile phones. So I

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managed to bring it back. I don't generally have that

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little voice in my head when I do a just

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a general recording. And also even when I do the

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let's say a sleep normal sleep recording, if you want

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to call it hypnosis, a body scam, whatever. Even if

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I have an idea of something that I'm going to discuss,

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each part of the body and imagine the wind is

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just blowing through that part of the body. And then

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when I get to start the recording, I might change

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my mind and decide to say the word relax five

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times or something like that with each time, you know,

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where as you focus on each part of the body

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or you know, So it's not I kind of wish

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I was more structured, but I think if I was

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more structured, i'd be I probably I've got more chance

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of being successful possibly if I was structured, but at

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the same time, I wouldn't be able to produce as

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many recordings as I do because for me, structure reduces

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I'm not going to say reduces creativity, but quite for

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me it does a little bit. I like the idea

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of being able to not know what I'm going to

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say because it amuses me then and I'm kind of

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interested in what I'm going to say next because I

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never know what I'm going to, what subject I'm going

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to end up talking about, or what direction I'm going

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to traveling. I really don't know. Now. Occasionally it's not

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so much that I find myself a loss for words,

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but occasionally, and this is true. I'm telling you. This

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is Mike. I'm telling you this, Mike is very true.

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And I did one recently. I do. I do recording

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and I'm just in a rotten mood. But I didn't

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realize until I started the recording, and I have to

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stop occasionally. I've done the whole recording and just trashed it.

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The other day I started I think I was try

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to do a trivia Tuesday, and I I like, nah,

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I tried I think four different attempts to try to

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do it, and it wasn't the right day, so yeah,

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I just had I abandoned it. Which is kind of

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weird because sometimes I might not feel in the mood

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to do recorded, but once I start the recording, I

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cheer up, and when I've completed the recording, I feel

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good like I've actually accomplished something, like I've contributed something

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to the world in my little way. But sometimes it's

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just a no go. As far as a loss for words.

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I think, if if I'm in if I'm talking to human,

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yeah I'm not Mike, I'm not saying you're not human,

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don't ever go at me. And what I think if

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I was face to face with one person I had

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this would be I mean, I think the reason why

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it is easier because there's no interruption. There's nothing interrupting

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my stream of thought. If if this is a conversation,

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then I would have to stop talking and it'd just

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be a different process because in order to get to

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some of the I guess more weird things that come

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out of my mouth, it takes a bit of traveling,

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It takes a bit of I need to like just

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let go, just you know, be free. Without I was

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gonna say without censuring myself. But you know what I do,

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I don't sense to myself. But in the end, I

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kind of do a little bit, but I generally don't

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generally Occasionally I said something and I edit it out

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and I think, no, it's like no, and you might

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be thinking, yeah, but you said something the other day

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and didn't edit that out. What kind of stuff do

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you edit out? What it's like? What I know, I'll

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just you got it. Well, you haven't got to remember,

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but you could maybe you think that. Yeah, sometimes I

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leave stuff in It makes me laugh. I know it

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might sound strange, but I've just I just sometimes find

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things funny, and even when I listen back to it,

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it just makes me giggle because it's just so ridiculous.

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Love I like absurd, I do. I like absurd, and

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but I like I like everything I like so well,

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anything that makes me laugh I like. And I lost

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for words. No, there's a freedom. This is freedom for me.

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This is the only time I feel free is when

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I can just talk and I can just be me.

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And I think I found my voice over the last

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eight years, which might sound weird because it's a long

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period of time. Is it seven How many years? Is

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it seven years? Not eight years? Is seven years? Seven years? Sorry,

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since I've been doing since twenty eighteen, since I've been

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doing these, let me boy to sleep or lumbits lumbits

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lumbits bites. Yeah, since I being doing these, I think

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I've discovered my voice. But at the same time, I realized,

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I'm I'm not a bad person really, just you know,

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stuff I come out with. I'm not out to cause

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anyone problems. I don't really have any I don't really

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have much in a way of extreme views. I never

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really wanted to have extreme views. You know, I grew

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up in a society in the seventies. You know, I

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was born in nineteen seventies, So I went through the

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seventies where there was a lot of extreme views around

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to do with well every single aspect of life really,

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and as I got older, you know, once I kind

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of reached I mean, it still went on through the

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eighties as well, but as I started to get older,

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I realized that these views that I had weren't my views,

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and I started to do something about it. Started to

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educate myself a bit. And by educate myself, I mean

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just just read and listen read other people's opinions. I

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think that can be educating. So if you've got one

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side of the argument and that's the only side of

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the argument you ever hear, it's going to kind of

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make sense, especially if you're a kid and you've grown

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up with that. But then if you see the other

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side of the argument, it can be like it could

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be annoying, it can be difficult to hear. But then

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if you see another part of the argument from a

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different perspective, and then again from another perspective, And the

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more perspectives you get, the I think the more educated

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I became realizing that it is opinions and perspective and experiences. People.

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You know, we've all got different experiences, and it's yeah,

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I'm not not really into the extremest things, and it

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is I can't neighbor. It's proper, proper right wing always

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shouting on about it. And they it's like it's almost

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like they'd they read the sun and that's where they

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get their their opinions from. That's where they get the

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information from, and everything's kind of based around. It's like

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no new knowledge is going to go in because they've

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got that fixed, that fixed mentality that that model that's there.

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I realized this has got nothing to do with the question,

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is it, but yeah, for me, yeah I do. I'm

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trying to explain that sometimes I do have a loss

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for words, but not really generally, not in this, not

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for this podcast. I'm hm hmm. I mean, there are

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better days. Some days. I guess I'm probably a bit

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more upbeat than others. I try not to be. I

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try not to. I try to keep it light if

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I can, but it's not always, not always easy, you know.

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But at the same time, this isn't therapy for me.

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I'm not talking to help myself therapeutically, or though it

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might be helping me, maybe it'll be helping other people

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in some ways to hear someone talking. And you know,

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if I don't really mention my mental health travels, journeys,

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whatever you want to call it, over the last fifty years,

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you know, fifty odd years, I don't really go into

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it too much detail. But I think maybe for some

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people would look at this, look at where I am now,

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and I'm doing all right all things considered. You know,

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I'm still here. According to some of the messages I get,

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I'm helping people and I'm doing something positive with my time.

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And I mean my psychologist said this to me, because

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I remember saying this is years ago. She said, can

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you put your trouser back on? Please? Like she said,

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didn't he what do you want? You want to have

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a treat? I gotta go, and I'm not gonna go.

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You can hear me. I'm just gonna go and get

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my treat out of the packet.

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All right, All right, here we go. How did that

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get on the floor? Well, you stop checking my stuff

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on the floor. Wow?

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No, wait, So I've got to his good boy chewy

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chicken twists with one hundred natural chicken breast meat, promotes

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dental hygiene, and a complimentary pet foot. Did you hear

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what you said? He said, I don't care what it

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says on the packet, just give me it. All right, Well,

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I'm trying to open it. He's sitting on both his

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He basically sitting on his bum with his hands in

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the air, like just there you go. I'm not sure

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if he learned to do that, or if he was

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taught it, or I don't know if he just did

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it because he's always done it since I've had him.

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But he was ten months old and I got him right.

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So that's that. Uh yeah, I'm a psychologist. And this

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is probably eight nine years ago, she said to me,

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because I said, well, I don't feel that i'm really

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helping society. I'm not help I'm not contributing. That's it.

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I'm not contributing to society being at home and not

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going to work or whatever. And she said, yeah, but

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society is not just your local area. Society is not

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just your country. Society's the world, isn't it. Society is everywhere?

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And I said, what are you talking about? She said,

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I don't know. I'm just trying to make you feel better.

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I said, it's because it's Friday afternoon. You're just waiting

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to go home. She said, yeah, I just wish you'd

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stop talking. I said, well, we can have a cup

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tea if you want. You said, no, I don't trust

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your tea. I said, I'm not going to put anything

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in it. She said, that's a problem. An empty cup

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is no good. Does not question my first I said

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it was a silly conversation, but I just said, ah,

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I didn't think about it really like that. She said, well,

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you got people listening. I mean, if you forget the world.

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You've got people listening in this country just because no

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one's listening locally. I said, yeah, got a few. I

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suppose a few thousand around the country that listen. She said,

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there you go. So for So, I guess in a

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way I am. From then on, I kind of thought,

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maybe I saw a little bit differently. I am contributing

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to society in my own little way, in my own

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weird way. So yeah, and maybe if someone's listening, if

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they're like, you're very young maybe or I don't have

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to be young, but they might be listening. They might

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have a bipile or a personality disorder, some kind of

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mental health issue, and wondering like what's going to become

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of them and how they're going to get, how they're

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gonna you know, what's it like to Is it even

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possible to be like that and be in your thirties

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and forties and fifties, And yeah, it is possible. I'm

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proof of that. I was going to say living proof,

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but I don't know if I have to say the

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word of living considering I'm talking. I just heard this

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weird sound outside in the garden, and I didn't know

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what it was so I just had a little look

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and it's a man looks like he's washing the windows,

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which I'm kind of a little bit confused because but

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these are downstairs windows. Now, I know we have people

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wash the communal windows, but I've never had anyone wash

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my actual windows from outside, not in ten years i've

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lived there. So I've closed on windows just in case

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he's gonna wash them. Literally, I've got us it's nominally

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joking it. I've got cobwebs that have been outside my window.

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I can't reach them to wash them, been out there

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for so long. If you get a magnifying glass, you

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can actually see one in a like an little rocking chair,

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smoking a pipe, another one knitting because the spiders is

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because they're so old. That would work on some level,

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I'm sure, just needs a bit of rewriting. And Ben,

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when you were young and your dad collected you all again,

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did you have any pets? Right? So this is referring

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to when I left the children's home at seven, just

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before I was seven, the summer before I was seven.

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Why do I say summer so loudly? And nineteen seventy seven,

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it was it was literally I think we moved there

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and Elvis passed away. That was It was that kind

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of period. I remember that day because it rained so hard.

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And I mean this was nineteen seventy seven. This is

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when summers lasted for like it's for seemingly for weeks.

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I mean, whether they did or not, I don't know,

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but we definitely seventy five, seventy six, seventy seven we

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had some pretty long hot summers in the UK. And

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I remember walking I don't know, I think we were

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walking back from the beach and it pelted down and

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I've not said the word pelted for a long time,

468
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pelted down with rain, like really, we were all soaked through. Now,

469
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.280
bearing in mind I was tiny and probably three drain

470
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.840
three brain drops probably would have been enough to half

471
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:41.960
wet me anyway. And you know a good thing about

472
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.119
it is whenever it rained that hard, I just wet

473
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.960
myself because I didn't it didn't matter. I could do

474
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:53.480
a wee my pants and no one would know. Made

475
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.239
a mistake one day, though, because it started to rain

476
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.480
really hard and the top of me started getting completely drenched.

477
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.840
I thought, okay, good, I can go to the toilet

478
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:08.400
and it stopped raining. Not a good look. Not a

479
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:13.559
good look at all. And other than that, I mean,

480
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.000
it's not the only bad thing about it. The job

481
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.559
interview didn't go very well either. Do do Do Do

482
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.280
Do Do Do do do? See, I was on the

483
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.360
way to a job interview. I'm pretending I was still

484
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.400
a kid Buttually I was on my way to job

485
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.039
interview and it rained, and I weed myself and I

486
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.320
went into the job interview and he thought I would

487
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:40.679
weed myself and they didn't give me the job. That

488
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:46.559
was That's what that was about. And I don't know

489
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:51.199
if I wanted the job either, but I might have done.

490
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.599
I don't know how many jobs have gone forward. I

491
00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:01.320
didn't get twice right twice. I've actually been offered two

492
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:05.320
jobs at the same time and I had to choose.

493
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.039
Happened twice once. I was in two thousand and four,

494
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.920
I was offered a job in a call center, like

495
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:23.320
selling car insurance again or working as a care assistant. Now.

496
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.679
At the time, I wanted to be a care assistant,

497
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.639
but the money would have been absolutely rubbish compared to well,

498
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.119
I just wouldn't have been a good salary. But that's

499
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.360
not what I wanted. I wanted to do something where

500
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.800
I was helping people. But I chose to call center

501
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.280
because first of all, I knew what I was doing,

502
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:47.199
because I'd already had a job doing that, and it

503
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.039
was a second call certaer I'd worked in second insurance job,

504
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:55.360
i'd worked in third call center, and also i'd never

505
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.840
done care work before, so I didn't know if or

506
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:02.559
not i'd be right for that kind of job, didn't

507
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:07.159
enough i'd be able to do it, and the second

508
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:12.079
time was back in There might have been other times,

509
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:19.039
but this another one I remember was in two thousand

510
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:28.440
and twelve, around December year or end of November, I

511
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.920
went for two jobs once. One was in a car

512
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.239
insurance company, the third car insurance company that I ended

513
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:38.000
up working in, so we won't be surprised. I know

514
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.760
that I took that one. But the other job I

515
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:46.079
got offered was interviewing people on the phone, which actually

516
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:51.159
was much more to my skill set because I wasn't

517
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:56.360
selling anything. I got to be nice all day. I

518
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.679
would have been good at it. I just would have

519
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:06.679
been good. It would have been pretty much very easy job,

520
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:11.239
but also rewarding because I'm giving people jobs and stuff,

521
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:17.559
so it's like a like an outcore center working on

522
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:27.159
behalf of big companies. But it wasn't It didn't seem

523
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:36.880
like a stable position, and so I just, yeah, I

524
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:44.360
just went with the insurance job. I'm sure there's a

525
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:58.400
horse joke there somewhere. Stable position. So yeah, how did

526
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:04.199
I talking about that? You asked me I had any pets? Blimey. Yeah,

527
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:12.639
So when we went there, do you want that last one?

528
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:17.400
Do you want them? How about eating your dinner? This

529
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:23.960
is the last one. You've got no more treats, and

530
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.199
you're not having any more treats to next Thursday. So

531
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:29.000
this is it. This is your this is your last

532
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:35.840
treat for a whole week. Okay, up to you. I

533
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:42.360
went we had ants in the house. I mean, that's

534
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:52.119
not really technically a pet, is it. No? No, no pets.

535
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:56.239
I was Amathe's packet is probably going to want to

536
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:05.280
rip its bits. Let's just take out the thing which

537
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:07.000
keeps the bag fresh, because I don't know if I

538
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.519
want him eating that. It'll be all at the bag

539
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:14.519
to bits now trying to get to what's not in there.

540
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.920
Not initially, I mean, we weren't in that house for

541
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:28.440
very long because it was a little bit derelict. It

542
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.360
was I think it was condemned, so we had to

543
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.760
move out. My dad joked something about, you know, it

544
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:39.079
was fine until I moved in, which is a bit rude,

545
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:47.400
too much farting, ha ha. And so when we moved

546
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:53.719
into the next house, which was only probably five months

547
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.719
maybe after moving there to that town, maybe less, maybe

548
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:03.639
six months maybe less. Moved into this new buildhouse and

549
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:15.159
we did have a cat called oh what was a

550
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:20.679
cat called Tiger? Yeah, we had a cat called Tiger,

551
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:29.599
and which was the first time I'd ever never stroked

552
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:33.280
a pussy before. I'd never never had a dog, never

553
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:40.239
never never really been around any kind of pets in

554
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:46.360
my life. So I was a little bit. I didn't

555
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:51.719
it wasn't quite sure how to how to I don't know,

556
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:59.199
I didn't really know what to do with it. But yeah,

557
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:03.079
so we had a cat. Un fortunately didn't the cat

558
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:11.719
didn't last long. Got Yeah, it got I've got run over,

559
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:14.639
to be fair, that's what happened. Got home from school

560
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:25.320
and that was upsetting. But other than that than nothing.

561
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:32.519
And then I won a goldfish at the the yearly Fair,

562
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:39.280
which was thinking August or September. That's the thing, I

563
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.679
can make people more nice. Please don't start knocking stuff off.

564
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.800
He wants me to give him more. I can't give

565
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.639
him more because I don't have more to give him.

566
00:47:54.079 --> 00:48:02.760
I really don't. No, So, yeah, I had I won

567
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.679
a goldfish called Popeye. I called him Popeye because he

568
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:10.440
had one eye that was much bigger than the other eye.

569
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:20.599
So Popeye was my first ever pet, really my first mind.

570
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.880
And then he it turned out he had an eye disease,

571
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.079
so I felt a little bit guilty called him Popeye.

572
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.000
But I didn't think it was fair to change his name.

573
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.239
I've always like it's all he knew. He didn't know

574
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:42.639
any other name, and I don't think he realized the

575
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.000
reason for the name, so there was no point telling

576
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.800
him there didn't see any point changing it, because that

577
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:52.320
just that would be confusing for him. So I had

578
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.519
these little drops took him to the vet. I'm not

579
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.159
sure if he did. I thought we might have taken

580
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:04.360
him to the vet blind me, or maybe could you

581
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.760
take a goldfish to the vet? I don't know. We've

582
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.000
got these little drops which put into his water, and

583
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:16.800
it seemed to help a bit. I used to be

584
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:25.840
fascinated with Popeye. It's just the whole kind of the poohing.

585
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:30.599
I found weird the laying of cable, just the whole

586
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:41.480
haven't it attached for that long? I wonder if whales

587
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:46.920
do that? Mm hmm. Well, you couldn't fit a well

588
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:53.599
in a little goldfish think, could you? My dad had

589
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.440
a did we have a goldfish pond? Or is it

590
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:04.599
my granddaddy put a goldfish pond in well? I think

591
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.440
we might have got a goldfish pond, but it might

592
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.199
have been my granddad. I can't remember. Now, that's weird.

593
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:14.639
I'd have to ask my dad. There was definitely a

594
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:18.960
goldfish pond in that garden of that house, just a

595
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:23.079
little goldfish pond, and it was because we used to

596
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:27.400
put a tennis ball in there in the winter so

597
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:39.079
that it always left an air an air hole. Mmm.

598
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:47.079
I remember my brother, my little brother had a goldfish

599
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:52.440
called ton Katoy or Tony or something like that, and

600
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:58.480
he was showing off. This is probably about ten years ago.

601
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.679
You know, he's a he would be nearly fifty soon.

602
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:09.760
He was going on about how he is goldfish lived

603
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:17.199
for like seven years or whatever. He had it for

604
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:21.199
seven years, and my dad started laughing. This was the

605
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:24.320
dinner table. That's my dad. They said, why are you laughing?

606
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.159
He said, oh, you just kept replacing it every time

607
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:35.679
he died. You just didn't notice, right, Really, I said,

608
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:40.360
why can you do that with a cat? But I

609
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.599
guess it's you know, he didn't didn't want to. So

610
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:48.519
my dad don't like animals. It's really weird. Because one

611
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:52.119
of them said to me, because they won't come here,

612
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:56.920
they won't enter my house. My dad won't set foot

613
00:51:56.920 --> 00:52:03.280
into this place, this flat. And I was told like

614
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.039
it was because I had an andre the ferret. Now

615
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:10.199
I've got a dog. Doesn't like animals. Someone said these

616
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:15.880
are allergic to animals. I said, well, that's obviously a lie.

617
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:20.400
And I said, well it's not true because he spent

618
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:25.000
thirty five years or whatever, forty years going into people's houses,

619
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:30.119
you know, part of his job, so you know. And

620
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.079
then one day he said, well, I'm not allergic to animals,

621
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:38.280
just don't like them. Okay, good, at least you've got

622
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:44.519
some truth. Then, But out of the four people he visits,

623
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:52.199
they've all got animals, they've all got dogs, including me,

624
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:56.280
but he doesn't have come here. Weird, isn't it? Meets

625
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.880
me in a restaurant or a coffee place. Won't set

626
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:08.960
put into this place. I don't know. There's a lot

627
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:14.679
to discuss. That's not really the question. If NY come

628
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:24.440
on me, I know I gave it to you. I'll

629
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:26.519
tell you it's weird. The other day I gave him

630
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.719
a packet and there's one bit left in. There's one

631
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:33.039
of those shoes left. And he just looked at the packet.

632
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:40.280
The packet wasn't closed, it was open. He wouldn't take

633
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.480
it out. He just couldn't be bothered. But as soon

634
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:49.840
as he'd eaten that bit, he destroyed the packet into

635
00:53:49.920 --> 00:54:06.800
many pieces. Is what he's doing right now. Other animals

636
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:26.440
we had, Wow, this is noisy. Other animals. When I

637
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:36.320
don't know how old, I was probably thirteen, my dad

638
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:42.039
got a dog for my stepmom. She wanted a dog,

639
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:48.039
but I couldn't just get a normal dog, just a

640
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:55.639
normal standard dog, normal dog size. No came home with

641
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:06.480
Saint Bernard, one of the world's biggest dogs, and cute

642
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:14.920
as anything. As a puppy, I mean all puppies are cute.

643
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:18.239
There's no he can't. There's no non cute puppy. So

644
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:20.599
it's like a none cute pussy cat, you know, what

645
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:24.760
I mean. They're just always they're always cute, and they

646
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:29.280
when they're little, and then they oh, is that as

647
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:32.320
noisy as for you as it is for me? That's

648
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:38.320
really wanted me up. It's still funny, though, I don't

649
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:47.840
know why he's so silly. So I yeah. We had

650
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:53.079
this dog called Misty Saint Bernard, and you literally, if

651
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:56.960
you just you could watch it grow in front of you.

652
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.360
I mean, I'm not even joking. It grew and grew

653
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:07.039
and grew. I remember one day, everyone, not one day.

654
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.480
I remember saying to my dad, is it finished growing yet? Said,

655
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.559
you asked that yesterday and the day before that. You'll

656
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.119
know when it's finished growing, So the hell, because you

657
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.559
won't be able to see the sun anymore. And it

658
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:25.239
was right huge, bigger than me. I was like thirteen

659
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:30.960
fourteen or whatever. Thirteen bigger than me when it's crully grown,

660
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:37.480
weighed more than me, probably weighed about twelve fourteen stone.

661
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:44.119
I weighed about eight and a half stone. When I

662
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:46.320
took it for a walk, it would just drag me along.

663
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.599
I had no control over it, or over her, other

664
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:54.079
no control over her. She was a beautiful dog, but

665
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.239
she got too big for the house. So she and

666
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.760
we had had quite a big house, but it wasn't

667
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:05.000
big in the sense of I had a few rooms,

668
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:09.639
but it wasn't big as finny. There's no point looking

669
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:13.360
for stuff that isn't there. It's not there anymore. It's

670
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:21.679
not there anymore, my dearest. The thing is my dad

671
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:26.320
built a kennel outside and she lived outside because she

672
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:30.199
just literally she'd get in and she'd knock everything over.

673
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:32.920
She struggled to get through the door. I mean, she

674
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:35.119
was huge, really big.

675
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:36.639
And.

676
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:43.679
She wasn't she didn't have what she needed. And this

677
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:48.920
is her time, probably forty so maybe it was when

678
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:52.400
I was fourteen. This was at a time when everything

679
00:57:52.480 --> 00:58:00.800
was starting to go a little bit wrong, and you know,

680
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:07.840
both my brothers ended up moving out. My stepmm went

681
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:10.360
to start going back to work, so she was hardly

682
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.719
ever there. My dad was always at working. I'd be

683
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:18.760
babysitting my little brother after school and during the summer holidays,

684
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:24.760
and Misty was just left or on her own too much.

685
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:29.519
There wasn't really anyone's fault. It's just that wasn't planned.

686
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.199
Just how it ended up being. You know, it went

687
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:37.639
from being a big, full family house to her I

688
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:41.519
don't know, something quite strange for the last year or so,

689
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:48.360
and Misty she just, I mean, she'd jump on me.

690
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:53.920
Every time I was anywhere near her. She would jump

691
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.880
on me and pin me down and dribble all over

692
00:58:56.920 --> 00:59:05.440
my school uniform. And you know, that was a time

693
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:07.519
when I didn't really want to go to school with

694
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:12.360
a stain on my trousers going home from you know, school,

695
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:16.480
going home from lunch. What you've been doing? Nothing? Why

696
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:21.280
is that big stain on your crotch? Don't worry about it?

697
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.599
What about that one on your jumper? Oh that's Misty.

698
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.840
Misty just that's dribbling on me. Why didn't you say

699
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.400
Misty did on your crotch as well? I don't know.

700
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.960
I just didn't think quick enough. But she was. She

701
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:39.239
was just like beautiful dog, messive though massive. It probably

702
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:42.360
costs more to feed her than it did me on

703
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:44.800
a week because I were feeding her tripe, which was

704
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:51.679
not cheap. But she was too big, way too big,

705
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:56.679
And it got to the point where I said, sort

706
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:57.719
of try and go. I used to go in the

707
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:02.079
front door because I couldn't go around the back because

708
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:06.119
she jump on me. I was not scared, but a

709
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:11.719
little bit kind of Yeah, it was a shame. I

710
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.159
couldn't take it. For walks. I couldn't handle her. She

711
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:17.719
was too strong. So she didn't get any walks, any

712
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:22.719
proper walks anymore. And so yeah, that was that wasn't good.

713
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.280
She did found that my dad found her a better home,

714
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:31.400
a proper home. But I mean she had a big

715
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.920
garden to run around in. But you know, for me,

716
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:37.400
it was a big garden I could run, but for her,

717
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:40.280
she could just like a couple of jumps and she'd

718
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.960
be either side of the the fence. So it wasn't

719
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:52.239
really that big for her. It was more like, yeah,

720
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.719
just a tiny little mat really, the grassho was for

721
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:59.199
her because she was so she wasn't that big. She

722
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:03.599
was half the size in the house. She was quite big,

723
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:17.000
and she's white and brown pretty of course, huge, absolutely huge.

724
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:20.119
Ever since then, I've not I don't know, I just

725
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:25.199
not scared of big dogs. I just I could never

726
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:27.079
have a big dog. I kind of can only really

727
01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:29.079
have a little dog. If I was going to have

728
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:32.400
a dog, I've always thought that in my mind. I've

729
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.800
lived with dogs on a few occasions. Other than that,

730
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:43.719
I lived in London with a dog, one, two, three

731
01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:49.960
different dogs in London, and they were all kind of

732
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.639
medium sized dogs. They weren't big, they weren't little, they

733
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:56.440
were just kind of medium kind of size. And I

734
01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:01.599
just thought, well, nothing bigger than that, because they're hard

735
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:05.920
to manage if they're being naughty, because the dogs are strong.

736
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:11.079
Vinnie's really strong, but I can I can beat him

737
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:16.679
in an arm wrestle, you know, just about. So I

738
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:18.679
did think if I was because I thought back getting

739
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:23.079
a dog when I first moved in here in twenty fifteen,

740
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:27.320
and I did look. I got permission from the council

741
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:33.639
and I started to look at a shelter and there

742
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:40.440
was this Pomeranian, little Pomeranian, and I thought, oh, he's

743
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:44.760
so cute, but he didn't like me. And because he

744
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:48.400
didn't like me, I thought, now, you know, I had

745
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.199
this little fantasy that if I ever went to a shelter,

746
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:53.559
it would be the dog that came up to me

747
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:58.599
that I would take home. Didn't didn't work like that.

748
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:08.199
They all none of them liked me. So yeah, I

749
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.960
don't know. I just I suppose I had a little

750
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.920
fantasy of what it would really be like compared to

751
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.760
what it really was like, and then when I did

752
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:19.559
end up getting my own, so, if you want to

753
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:25.920
call it pet andre little ferret. He hated me when

754
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:28.119
I first got him, but I fell in love with

755
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.400
him as soon as I saw him. I just fell

756
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.119
in love with him. It's his little, tiny little face,

757
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:38.239
little body, but his tiny patches on his eyes, and

758
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:40.840
just I fell in love with him. And every time

759
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:42.920
I picked him up, he hissed and he bit me.

760
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:48.960
He absolutely didn't like me at all too. A couple

761
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.599
of weeks before he sort of accepted that I existed,

762
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:57.519
he wasn't able to get rid of me, and then

763
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:01.719
we were kind of inseparable. Well, he couldn't get away

764
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:03.679
from me, really, I suppose that's the best way to

765
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:12.000
explain it. And so yeah, we had pets, but only

766
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.519
really them too. So really, when I first moved there,

767
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:20.800
other than the nts, there was nothing. Then we had

768
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:26.920
the cat and she wasn't there for long unfortunately. And

769
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.599
then when we moved, I had my little goldfish, and

770
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:36.719
then when we moved I didn't have a goldfish anymore.

771
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:48.159
Then we had the Misty, the huge, huge dog. In

772
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:53.320
about when I was about fourteen, maybe fifteen fourteen fifteen,

773
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.719
I lose track of the times, really, But it was

774
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:01.840
a point when neither of my brothers were living there,

775
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.840
so I was on the top floor on my own,

776
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:09.559
which was weird, and I didn't like living with them,

777
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.840
but I missed them when they weren't there. It's weird.

778
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:18.599
And it's just like the brother just above me, the

779
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:20.599
two years older. He used to wind me up all

780
01:05:20.599 --> 01:05:23.840
the time, but I missed him when he left. When

781
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:27.360
he moved out, I was like, oh, because I'd spent

782
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:30.639
my whole life with him, literally from the day I

783
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:39.360
was born to fifteen or fourteen fifteen whatever. I'd been

784
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:43.559
with him every single day of my life, moving around

785
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:48.400
the country, living in different places. So suddenly he wasn't there.

786
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:53.079
It was very strange, even though we didn't necessarily get

787
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:57.079
on that well. And then my other brother, the oldest one,

788
01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:06.639
he moved out, and that was strange. It's like just

789
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.039
being at the top of that old house on my own,

790
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:14.119
very weird. So what I did is I got myself

791
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:20.039
a budgy to replace him. It's I thought i'd replaced

792
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:24.039
him a budgy, and I did. I got myself a

793
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.039
budgy in a cage. I had it in my bedroom

794
01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:29.159
to start with, but it was a little bit too clattery,

795
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.840
a bit annoying, so I thought I put it in

796
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:36.320
the other bedroom, in my brother's bedroom at the front

797
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:45.159
of the house, and unfortunately there was no heat and

798
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:50.800
it froze. There was there was There was this terrible

799
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:54.119
really but it's so this must have been during the

800
01:06:54.159 --> 01:07:01.079
winter and there's no Yeah, the the heating would be off.

801
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:06.360
I think my dad's always had a bit of a

802
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:09.480
problem with heating. I remember when I was living with

803
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:14.960
I moved out and lived with my stepmom and her

804
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:20.400
mom in the flat then my step man's flat. So

805
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.960
my little brother and my stepmom were in one bed,

806
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:27.960
my step nun was in the other bed in the

807
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.880
other room, and then I was on a living room

808
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:35.239
floor on a little camper bed. I didn't like that,

809
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:38.679
so I went and moved back. I asked my dad

810
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:41.239
if I could move back into the house because it

811
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:46.760
was horrible, and he said, yeah, it was freezing cold.

812
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:49.679
There was no hit, so you're going to put the

813
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:55.360
heat and said, nope, no heat. I had to move

814
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:58.480
out again. I was fifteen years old. By the way,

815
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:04.599
I wasn't even leaky. They had it right, They had

816
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:08.760
a duty of care, but in back in them days,

817
01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:12.119
it wasn't really enforced, but freezing colds. I went back

818
01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:14.960
to the flat where as one, but I didn't want

819
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:19.079
to be there because just I missed my own room,

820
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:23.960
you know, my own stuff, my own space. And I

821
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.159
know I'd only been there for a little while because

822
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:30.520
the house had to get sold. But would the house

823
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:35.000
have to get sold if I was living there, I

824
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:39.680
don't know. It probably would have put it off, probably

825
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:42.399
wouldn't have had to sell it until I was sixteen

826
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:50.680
or maybe eighteen. I don't know which would have been

827
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:53.319
getting it would have been better because the house would

828
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:58.840
have been worth a lot more because it went up

829
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:02.479
from being I think sixty six grand when they sold

830
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:08.520
it in nineteen eighty six or nineteen eighty seven, in

831
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:12.720
nineteen eighty eight went up to two hundred and fifty

832
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:17.600
thousand pounds. Can you believe that that's not even a lie?

833
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:20.079
I remember I went into my dad's because he had

834
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:23.880
a new house by then, like he'd got himself another house.

835
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.760
So I guess they split the money. She took her money,

836
01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.239
he took his and put a deposit on a new house.

837
01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:34.399
So I went in to his house just to see him,

838
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:37.760
and there was this thing he pointed to it. It

839
01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:42.159
was on this little chip board wooden board thing where

840
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:46.680
he posts no pin stuff on, and there was a

841
01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:49.479
picture of our house with a two hundred and fifty

842
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:57.119
thousand pounds price tag, and you could see a dent

843
01:09:57.199 --> 01:10:00.079
in the wall where he had been head button it.

844
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:06.199
It was so angry because a year just over a year,

845
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.840
year and a half, and it went up by that much.

846
01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:14.640
A year later it dropped down by about to about

847
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.319
one hundred and twenty five or two years later, so

848
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:21.800
it was a big drop. But you know it's now

849
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:24.920
worth about seven hundred to eight hundred thousand when online

850
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:30.600
just to search, maybe a little bit more. But it's

851
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:33.560
just like wow. So if we just if I, if

852
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:36.079
I had moved in there, I might have been doing

853
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:42.119
everyone a favor, like everyone i'd stayed there, and the

854
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:46.520
council so like you I have to especially if I

855
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.239
was on a YTS scheme, which I was said no,

856
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:54.600
you have to look after until he's eighteen and do

857
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:59.520
your care whatever, which meant the house price would have

858
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:03.520
gone up. My dad could have sold that one hundred

859
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:09.000
and twenty five grand each. She would have been better

860
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:11.319
off he would have been better off. He probably would

861
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:15.119
be by his house outright, the one he got, I mean,

862
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:25.359
guess would have been amazing if if if if so Yeah,

863
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:30.279
so yeah, we had pets. The budget was a weird

864
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:32.640
one because I tried to give him mouth to mouth

865
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:37.680
resuscitation and that didn't seem to work. So I thought,

866
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:41.279
I'm not proud of this. I did do this. I didn't.

867
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:43.600
I mean, I just thought to myself because I didn't

868
01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:50.960
know if he was still alive or not, and because

869
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:52.600
he just I didn't know if because he was not

870
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.039
looking at me, I didn't know if he was giving

871
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:57.439
me the cold shoulder literally, but if he was just

872
01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:03.880
annoyed because I'd left him on his own, and I

873
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:05.560
don't know, I was a kid. I just didn't really

874
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:11.359
know what to do. So I thought, because I was

875
01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:15.560
up three stories high, and I thought, well, if I

876
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:17.600
just put it out, it's going to fly away, isn't it.

877
01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:26.000
And Okay, so I know budgies that generally don't necessarily

878
01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:29.159
it might not have a great life out in the wild,

879
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:31.840
it's going to a better life than what it has there,

880
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:39.119
you know, And so I kind of he didn't fly

881
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:43.520
That's what I'm going to say he didn't fly, So

882
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:49.600
that was the end of that. Never give me off

883
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:54.560
to mouth resuscitation to a budgy. It's a hard one

884
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:59.199
to judge, you know. But I did do that. It's

885
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:02.680
genuinely true. I'm not I'm not proud of it. I

886
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:09.720
just something I did. And the herd compressions. It's very

887
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:16.000
hard to really know how hard to push. If they squeak,

888
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:23.359
you might be pushing too hard. So also, have you

889
01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:29.399
ever had one driving test lesson car or motorbike? Yeah?

890
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:34.439
I had more than one. I've had nineteen ninety one,

891
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:37.079
I had a couple of driving lessons. Two thousand and four.

892
01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:41.560
I had a few driving lessons ninety one. I just

893
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:51.880
couldn't be bothered. Just didn't see the point. And my

894
01:13:52.039 --> 01:14:02.239
spatial awareness is not necessarily perfect, which showed both times

895
01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:08.720
I tried to learn to drive. I was too close

896
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:11.960
or too far. I could never I can never really

897
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.600
figure out where the car should be. That might have

898
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:20.119
come with time, but yeah, I didn't. I didn't enjoy it.

899
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:26.520
The second time in two thousand and four, my driving

900
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:32.439
instructor was too enthusiastic. It was only a young bloke.

901
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:34.279
I mean, I was young as well. Myself. I was

902
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:40.479
only twenty three or twenty four whatever, but I just

903
01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:45.840
twenty three, probably thirty three, not twenty three. I was

904
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.960
thirty three. He was in his early twenties, i'd say.

905
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:55.600
But it was super excited, super enthusiastic, motivational, and I

906
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:58.920
just wanted him to calm down, or you can do it,

907
01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:02.119
you can do it, like come on. I did want

908
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:03.840
him to be negative. I just didn't want him to

909
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:05.600
be like over the top.

910
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:08.560
You know.

911
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.640
It was like emotionally doing cartwheels all the time. It

912
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.199
was just a little bit, a little bit too much.

913
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:19.640
So I just whenever he came around, I just hid,

914
01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:24.319
didn't answer the door. I ended up paying for quite

915
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:28.000
a lot of lessons that I didn't turn up for anyway.

916
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:33.239
An the end, I stopped. I went into the DVLA

917
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:35.600
or I don't know wherever, the places that I always

918
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:37.880
take my lessons, and I went to the reception. I said,

919
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:41.560
I'd like to cancel my lessons please, and she said, well,

920
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.039
who you driving with? And I said the name of

921
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:47.920
the person who's your instructor. She said, I'll just go

922
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:50.920
and get him. I said no, no, no, no, no,

923
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:57.880
no no, and she said too enthusiastic. I said, yeah,

924
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:04.079
two enthusis We heard that a lot. I said okay,

925
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:08.880
and we canceled. That was it and I moved, so

926
01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:12.840
we couldn't find out where I was. What was my

927
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:20.800
longest relationship? This is from Ben again. So I you

928
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:28.159
talked about romantic relationships, I guess the longest one. I

929
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:34.199
go through them. But I had one ninety one, which

930
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:42.000
was that finished in the summer. I had one ninety three,

931
01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:52.720
sort of December ninety three all the way to September

932
01:16:52.960 --> 01:17:00.600
ish ninety four, so it's what's that October? So what's

933
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:04.640
that nine months? So nine months, that's quite a long one.

934
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:12.680
And there was one in two thousand and nineteen ninety six.

935
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:26.640
It started probably May, maybe June nineteen ninety six, until

936
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:50.279
probably around April nineteen ninety seven. So what's that July, August, September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April.

937
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:55.119
So yeah, that was about ten months. So that was

938
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:59.960
probably the longest relationship I was ever in, like romantic relationship.

939
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:05.199
I'm being very vague with a word romantic, very very

940
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:36.479
generous with that word. But yeah, look, I'm trying to

941
01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:43.600
think No, that's it that that was the longest one

942
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:48.079
ten months. But if you I was just listening to

943
01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:52.800
some in the gardens then and sometimes there's a voice

944
01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:54.960
and I just don't recognize it and it sounds clear.

945
01:18:55.279 --> 01:19:02.720
It's like is it outside my garden? So, yeah, that's

946
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:07.079
my longest relationship. I'm trying to think of it. I

947
01:19:07.159 --> 01:19:12.079
had any other relationships. I've had a few little ones,

948
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:22.920
a few lettle short relationships kind of yeah, I mean

949
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:34.720
ninety five, I think one two one. I had two.

950
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:40.399
You had two relationships ninety five, one in ninety six,

951
01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:49.439
one in ninety seven. During college, I didn't really have

952
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:53.840
I had a friendship with a female, but it wasn't

953
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:56.680
a relationship, but it was a friendship and then it

954
01:19:56.760 --> 01:20:00.159
turned into something a bit more at the end of

955
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:03.840
the course, at the end of the university degree. But

956
01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:08.359
for the three years we were just really good friends

957
01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:13.880
and then that kind of didn't really come to anything.

958
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:25.439
We were just friends, very close friends. And nope, no,

959
01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:35.239
not really. The last ten years pretty much it's been

960
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:40.359
a dry well. But yeah, as longest one, about ten

961
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:47.319
ten months. Can you imagine saying ten years? Wow, ten months?

962
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:52.520
Longest one? Cindy would you tell us about the TV

963
01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:55.960
license tax. Do you pay it every do you pay

964
01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.279
it on every TV in the household or is it

965
01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:02.800
one feed for per house regardless of the number of TVs.

966
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.520
Mike's answered this, so he hasn't answered. It's a good question.

967
01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:11.159
I've never understood the whole UK TV license thing. How

968
01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:12.680
do they know if you have a TV or not?

969
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:16.039
Do they have the right to just enter your house

970
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:20.439
and look at all your technology devices? And Hope has

971
01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:23.159
written I had a friend who had to prove she

972
01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:25.880
didn't have a TV in order to avoid the tax.

973
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:28.439
She was so so angry she had to let the

974
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.840
TV tax people into search a flat. I'm Canadian, as

975
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:36.319
she was when she moved to England. Okay, I feel

976
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:45.520
there's a lot of questions there, so yeah, it's one Okay,

977
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:50.399
So in this flat that I live, it wouldn't MANIFI

978
01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:53.720
had one hundred TVs. As far as I'm aware, it's

979
01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:59.319
this one TV license per household. They do do a

980
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:08.199
discount or blind people, and so the wholes found that

981
01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:15.439
just incredibly rude. To be fair, I just I don't know,

982
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:17.560
I don't know if there's a discount for people that

983
01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:22.600
are pensioners, but I pay what do I pay this other?

984
01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:30.960
Look do I pay every single month? TV license? Pay?

985
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:45.119
I think it's fifteen pound a month tv TV. It's

986
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:49.399
at the beginning of the months and ASA look first

987
01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:54.000
of May fifteen pound. So I pay fifteen pound a

988
01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:59.680
month for my TV license. I only have one television.

989
01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:04.279
But the way they figured it's one of those really really,

990
01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:10.680
it's to me such a dumb thing, a dumb idea.

991
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:14.399
It made sense originally, you know, when they first started

992
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:21.880
doing it, I guess, But there was two channels, BBC one,

993
01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:28.840
BBC two, both of them neither of them had adverts,

994
01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:33.600
although they had sponsorship and stuff like that, but they

995
01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:38.199
didn't have adverts, so it was a public service. Then

996
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:45.680
ITV came along, which was financed by advertising. Channel four

997
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:51.520
came along, financed by advertising. Channel five came along, financed

998
01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:59.399
by advertising, and then over the years everything except BBC

999
01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:07.279
channels are financed by advertising, all of them. Yet we

1000
01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:12.960
all still have to pay for BBC, even the people

1001
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:17.960
don't use BBC. And you know, I see YouTube videos

1002
01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:20.279
where people say, oh, come on, you don't have to

1003
01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:21.960
let them in, or if you do let them in,

1004
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:26.800
they have to prove that you watch BBC and it's

1005
01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:30.680
not It's not quite as simple as that. There there

1006
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:34.600
can be a little bit intimidating. You know, these people

1007
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:37.319
coming around, they do it for a living. They know

1008
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:41.000
what buttons, the push, they know how to get people

1009
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:44.720
to open up and how to incriminate themselves or whatever.

1010
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:49.279
And it seems weird that some people go to prison

1011
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:52.840
for not paying a TV license or refusing to pay

1012
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:58.159
the TV license. They actually go to prison. How can

1013
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:04.279
that in any world be justifiable? That doesn't me with

1014
01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:09.760
no strong views. It just seems ridiculous, just all absurd, absurd,

1015
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:15.560
but not in a funny way. And so yeah, we

1016
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:19.279
do have to have a TV license unless you can

1017
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:24.560
prove that you do not have a television. And they

1018
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:31.319
also now include streaming. So if you stream TV, even

1019
01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:35.319
if it isn't the BBC, So if you stream itv

1020
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:39.479
app which has got adverts on, you're using the TV.

1021
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:44.439
So you watch TV, any kind of terrestrial television, even

1022
01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:48.199
if it's streaming and you're viewing it through the internet,

1023
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:52.119
you have to pay a tie TV license for it,

1024
01:25:52.199 --> 01:25:59.600
according to them. I'm sure there's ways around it. I

1025
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:03.600
know people that don't pay the license and they just

1026
01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:08.680
don't answer the door. I never used to pay the

1027
01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:13.479
TV license until I moved here, but I pretty much

1028
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:18.760
always lived in a multiple occupancy house, so the landlord

1029
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:24.520
paid the TV license for the building. So I never

1030
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:28.600
had to pay a TV license until I moved here,

1031
01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:32.600
and I thought, I'll just pay it because I've seen

1032
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:36.199
what happens when people don't pay it and they get hounded.

1033
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:46.880
And how do they watch that? Look do how do

1034
01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:48.439
they know if you have a TV or not? So

1035
01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:57.640
this is Mike, Well they have these Well they basically

1036
01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:02.039
just look at who's paid for a TV license. So

1037
01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:05.199
if they've got everyone in a road except number forty three,

1038
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:10.159
seventy two, and sixty five haven't paid a TV license,

1039
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:15.479
then they know where to go. And they're just going

1040
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:20.960
to assume that everybody has a TV, because most everybody

1041
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:25.399
does have a TV. Some people don't, but most people do,

1042
01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:29.479
and even those people who don't. Actually, I remember having

1043
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:34.600
this conversation with dog Walker and they said, oh yeah,

1044
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:37.840
they said something about TV, and I said, wait a minute,

1045
01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:42.439
you told me you don't watch TV, because I remembered

1046
01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:46.520
what they'd said previously. When people contradict themselves, I tend

1047
01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:51.760
to remember what they said previously, and she said, oh no,

1048
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:57.920
I stream I said, it's still watching Telly, just because

1049
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.640
you don't own a television. So she time she didn't

1050
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:02.880
own a television, which I assumed she didn't watch TV

1051
01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:06.239
or there. There's been times when I've not owned a

1052
01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:09.640
TV and I did still watch TV online on my

1053
01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:16.119
laptop or at least watch programs, you know, streaming. So

1054
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:22.199
they will check. They can check, and they will knock

1055
01:28:22.399 --> 01:28:26.319
and they will harass, and they also they've got these

1056
01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:30.079
vans that apparently can tell. But I don't know if

1057
01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:32.720
they can or not. I don't know if it's just

1058
01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:38.960
there might just be like a little sausage roll maker

1059
01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.920
inside there a little bed that they sleep in. I

1060
01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:45.600
don't know if it's actually anything's working. But yeah, they've

1061
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:47.840
definitely got the law on their side for some reason.

1062
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:51.520
Do they have the right to just enter a house

1063
01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:56.359
and look at your technology devices? According to them, they do,

1064
01:28:57.319 --> 01:29:01.439
but h I think it can get to the point

1065
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:05.439
where they can call the police in order to gain access,

1066
01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:13.920
and which is just ridiculous. It's really can you imagine

1067
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:18.319
wasting the police time because you want to see if

1068
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:28.560
someone owns a television that's phenomenally bad, bad and they

1069
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:30.439
do check if they do get into your house, they

1070
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:34.000
do look around and try and check all the technology devices.

1071
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.159
So if you've got a laptop, Dellas Zoom, if you've

1072
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:40.880
got broadband, you've got internet. If you've got a phone

1073
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:46.279
with internet, then you can watch television. If you've got access,

1074
01:29:46.399 --> 01:29:49.319
if you're able to watch television, then they think you

1075
01:29:49.319 --> 01:29:54.159
should be paying a TV license. That's their mentality. Everybody

1076
01:29:54.479 --> 01:30:01.760
with a smartphone can gain access to streaming television in

1077
01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:03.319
the UK anywhere. I don't know what it's like in

1078
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:07.159
America or in Australia or Canada or anywhere else, but

1079
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:14.880
in the UK, any phone, you know, a decent phone

1080
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:20.159
which has internet access, which would be every phone that's

1081
01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:26.760
in the world can stream TV. So it's very difficult

1082
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:33.760
to really get out of it. Yeah, I'm not not

1083
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:35.439
a big fan of the whole thing, but you know what,

1084
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:41.479
sometimes what's an old old saying, pick your battles, and

1085
01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:44.520
I can't be bothered with this, you know. I know

1086
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:49.159
people that have stood up for themselves and ended up

1087
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:54.680
with a big fine corek costs, and you know, just

1088
01:30:54.720 --> 01:30:57.359
like it's not worth it for the sake of fifteen

1089
01:30:57.399 --> 01:31:01.840
pound a month. No, so yeah, they kind of got

1090
01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:04.800
us by the the curly world is as it were.

1091
01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:11.359
I mean, I just I don't know for personally. I

1092
01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:15.119
think the BBC it would make sense for the BBC

1093
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:19.920
to either just start having adverts or have it as

1094
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:25.720
an app, you know, where people can just subscribe, subscribe

1095
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.840
to all the different channels on the BBC for a

1096
01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:32.439
monthly price, which would be the cost of a TV license.

1097
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:38.640
The problem with that is they would probably I imagine, lose

1098
01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:46.199
ninety percent of their customers. Ninety percent of the revenue

1099
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:52.000
would probably be gone because people wouldn't wouldn't want to

1100
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:57.720
pay you know. If they didn't, they didn't. If they

1101
01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:00.000
didn't have to pay it, they wouldn't. They probably find

1102
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:05.600
another way to watch it. So how do you feel

1103
01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:09.439
about bugs? Says Allie. Are you a kill of spiders?

1104
01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:12.560
I know, I know technically and they record you needed,

1105
01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:17.159
I think, Or do you catch them and bring them outside? Nah?

1106
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:20.520
I don't kill bugs. I'm not bothered a out. Bugs

1107
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:24.920
really flies annoying me because I keep trying to land

1108
01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:29.359
on my food. And I said to him, like, why

1109
01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:32.560
you keep landing on my breakfast? And a fly said

1110
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:34.399
I'm trying to get the taste of that dog poo

1111
01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:39.560
out of my mouth. It's like rude. I was like,

1112
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:44.680
why they annoy me? Flies annoy me, not enough to

1113
01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:47.279
sort of get too angry, just to just annoy a bit.

1114
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:51.279
Spiders I don't care about. I wouldn't even put it outside.

1115
01:32:51.319 --> 01:32:53.640
Just leave it, leave it, let me do what it wants.

1116
01:32:55.279 --> 01:33:06.520
Don't care. And I think Horace just popped up onto

1117
01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:10.920
the window sill and then he's gone talking about creepy

1118
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:20.399
careorys and bugs, horrice pigeon. Yeah, I think spiders, I'm

1119
01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:22.760
not bothered. I don't care about them. I think the

1120
01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:25.000
only the only bug, if you want to call it

1121
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:31.960
a bug, would be like a wasp or a be

1122
01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:36.439
a hornet, that kind of thing. I would definitely try

1123
01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:39.399
to well. I would always try and guide them out

1124
01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:44.439
of the window. I would put the effort in to

1125
01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:48.119
get them out of the window because this isn't the

1126
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:52.920
right place for those animals to be. They you know,

1127
01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:57.319
they need to be outside. None of them want to

1128
01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:02.119
be inside, really, I don't think. So I try and

1129
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:06.039
get them out and without doing any harm. You know,

1130
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:12.439
in the past, if it was a spider, i'd probably

1131
01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.600
try and get it outside, but I don't care anymore.

1132
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:19.640
Just doesn't bother Spiders don't bother me at all. I

1133
01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:23.199
don't bother them. They don't bother me. But luckily I'm

1134
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:25.039
in a country where we haven't got a way about

1135
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:38.560
stuff like that. Yeah, for me, it just I think

1136
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:41.359
flies with anyone's that annoying me. And when I hear

1137
01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:46.279
a wasp's like because I know wasps don't bother me

1138
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:49.319
if I don't bother them, but trying to get them

1139
01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:51.279
out of the window can be a little bit bothersome

1140
01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:54.239
to them. I don't. I don't want to push them,

1141
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:59.720
you know, too far. Hope asks me, do you like

1142
01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:06.119
any sports other than boxing? If so, what, no, Sandy asks,

1143
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:14.600
oh uh no, genuinely not really. I don't mind a

1144
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:19.319
bit of mixed martial arts in UFC and stuff that

1145
01:35:19.399 --> 01:35:25.560
can be amazing. I'm the skill. I never really appreciated

1146
01:35:25.560 --> 01:35:31.680
the skill until more recently, and it's phenomenally skillful. I

1147
01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:34.640
just don't find it when they're on the floor, that's

1148
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.600
when the real skill is. But I don't find it

1149
01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:45.000
exciting to watch. It's interesting to watch, but it's not

1150
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:49.199
exciting in the same way as punching is for me.

1151
01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:53.840
But I can see like if someone can do something

1152
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:56.920
that I can't do, which is most people, to be fair,

1153
01:35:57.000 --> 01:36:01.039
so I'm impressed to see the highest legs and with

1154
01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:04.359
the USC that's what you see, just like with the

1155
01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:07.960
professional boxes. He's seeing the boxes at the highest level.

1156
01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:12.880
And I can't even talk about other other sports that

1157
01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.399
I might like having in boxing without talking about boxing.

1158
01:36:16.039 --> 01:36:21.319
It's terrible. I used to I used to like tennis

1159
01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:25.439
and snooker when I was a kid, but that's and darts,

1160
01:36:25.479 --> 01:36:29.479
even because we were grew up watching that stuff. You know,

1161
01:36:29.720 --> 01:36:34.920
snooker was huge in this country in the early eighties.

1162
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:42.279
Darts was huge, honestly, it's a big, really really popular sports.

1163
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:53.119
Eric Bristow and Tennis McEnroe, Connor Beyond brought Beyond Beyond

1164
01:36:53.319 --> 01:36:59.239
Borg what his name was, and all these and then

1165
01:36:59.279 --> 01:37:02.680
Agacy and in the early nineties or late eighties, early nineties,

1166
01:37:02.720 --> 01:37:08.479
and you know, tennis was huge in this country during

1167
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:14.760
the old McEnroe era, partly because of McEnroe, to be fair.

1168
01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:22.239
He just he really a bit like Alex Higgins with snooker.

1169
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:29.960
He made it into Hurricane Higgins they called him. But

1170
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:35.920
it was a Maverick and so yeah, I don't know,

1171
01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:38.800
so I quite. I used to watch football as well

1172
01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:42.800
because my oldest brother loved football and I wanted to

1173
01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:46.960
be like him a bit. So I used to watch football.

1174
01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:51.920
And at that time we lived near a town called Ipswich,

1175
01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:55.399
which was head of the league. They won the FA

1176
01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:59.319
Cup and the Europa Cup or whatever. They were the

1177
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:05.039
top league. They were the top team in the country,

1178
01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:10.279
and so it was hard not to kind of been

1179
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:15.560
to get blown away with that wave of excitement when

1180
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:19.880
our local team was the best team in the entire

1181
01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:23.239
country and one of the best teams in the world

1182
01:38:23.439 --> 01:38:29.279
like Europe, you know, like football teams. So I'll tell

1183
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:36.359
you when that was. Nineteen seventy eight two So Ipswich

1184
01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:44.479
Town Football Club FC, Ipswich Town FC. So let's have

1185
01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:51.119
a look the nineteen seventy eight FA Cup Finals association

1186
01:38:51.279 --> 01:38:55.239
football match between Arsenal and Ipswitched Town six and May

1187
01:38:55.479 --> 01:39:01.800
nineteen seventy eight at Old Wembley Stadium. And so if

1188
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:06.039
I just go to study, I want to just I

1189
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:11.079
want to back this up with actual correct information rather

1190
01:39:11.119 --> 01:39:17.720
than just me making it up, because I do remember

1191
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:28.159
them being really really really really big and it was

1192
01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:31.960
their biggest time and it was during the Bobby Robson

1193
01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:35.680
era as well, so Bobby Robson who was a legend

1194
01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:46.840
as a manager and so look so Bobby Rogers during

1195
01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:53.039
the Bobby Robson era. At their peak in the nineteen

1196
01:39:53.079 --> 01:40:03.279
seventeen nine nineteen eighty season, they beat Manchester United. Their

1197
01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:06.560
major success came nineteen seventy eight when Ipswich b Arsenal

1198
01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:10.000
at Wembley Stadium to win the only their only FA

1199
01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:15.800
Cup trophy. The triumph was followed or by almost winning

1200
01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:23.159
the triple in eighty eighty one, So they were really big,

1201
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:29.159
really big back then, and it's which did win the

1202
01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:38.119
UEFA Cup in nineteen eighty one as well. It's hard,

1203
01:40:38.199 --> 01:40:41.720
I mean, anyone that's been I suppose there's probably thousands

1204
01:40:41.720 --> 01:40:49.119
of people, anyone that's had their local football team be

1205
01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:52.680
like at the top. Even if it is just for

1206
01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:55.479
a year, a couple of years or whatever, it is

1207
01:40:55.560 --> 01:40:59.319
something it has an effect on the local area, it

1208
01:40:59.399 --> 01:41:04.760
really does. Like really, I've only experienced it once and

1209
01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:08.720
that was, you know, when I lived near Ipswich and

1210
01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:12.600
when I was a kid, So between seventy eight and

1211
01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:18.920
eighty two, Ipswich were big players, and to win the

1212
01:41:19.079 --> 01:41:22.479
FA Cup is like at the time it was like

1213
01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:27.920
the highest prize really, and there's a lot more different

1214
01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:30.600
cups now. That's for me. FA Cup was a much

1215
01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:34.760
bigger deal than it is even now. I'm saying that

1216
01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:38.520
like I know something about football. And also what was

1217
01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:44.199
really big back then was sabutio, which is I don't

1218
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:47.399
know if you ever heard of it. It's basically you

1219
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:50.880
put this green cloth onto a table. You can play

1220
01:41:50.880 --> 01:41:52.000
it on the floor as well, but it needs to

1221
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:55.560
be a flat floor. I mean, I don't know how

1222
01:41:55.640 --> 01:41:59.319
many floors are bumpy and lopsided, but you buy flat

1223
01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:02.800
I mean because you're you're basically got these things that

1224
01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:07.119
they're like little weebels, you know, weebeles wrobble, but they

1225
01:42:07.159 --> 01:42:12.119
don't fall down, but you push them and they then

1226
01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:18.039
they hit the ball and the ball pushes and yeah,

1227
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:20.239
I don't know, it made sense to me when I

1228
01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:29.239
said it, but a very popular game, So no, I

1229
01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:37.159
don't really boxing is the only sport I follow, even

1230
01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:49.279
things like martial arts, the taekwondo, the Olympics, judo. I

1231
01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:55.840
think some of that stuff. Judo, for example, is when

1232
01:42:55.880 --> 01:43:01.680
you realize what's being done, I think, okay, I'm going

1233
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:05.960
to talk talk for myself with judo. Because my dad

1234
01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:09.039
was a judo man. When he was a school he

1235
01:43:09.159 --> 01:43:13.680
got to got a brown belt in judo, and so

1236
01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:15.680
that was his thing and he kept it with him.

1237
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:18.680
He's like, I always, yeah, it was good balance and

1238
01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:21.680
all that stuff, But I didn't watching it. I didn't

1239
01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:26.479
see I couldn't see any kind of excitement, any kind

1240
01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:30.239
of point to watching it. I could see the point

1241
01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:35.520
of doing it, But once you learn a little bit

1242
01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:40.720
about what they're doing, you realize that it's phenomenal what

1243
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:46.079
they're doing actually, And when you put two really really

1244
01:43:46.159 --> 01:43:51.520
good people, it's it's like a chess game. It's almost

1245
01:43:52.239 --> 01:43:54.319
you know, if you put one one really good person

1246
01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:59.399
against someone that's average, then that really good person is

1247
01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:03.880
going to check that average person all around, and it's

1248
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:06.720
going to look spectacular. It's going to you know, it's

1249
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:10.319
going to look just amazing. But you put two really

1250
01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:15.239
good people together and no one's going to get chucked around. Necessarily.

1251
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:19.560
They're going to try and chuck each other around. And

1252
01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:23.319
it's the same with the USC or with the jiu jitsu.

1253
01:44:24.760 --> 01:44:27.159
They'll try and get each other choke each other out.

1254
01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.920
But it's much easier for you know, if I got

1255
01:44:30.920 --> 01:44:36.600
into a jiu jitsu someone that I even doing it

1256
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:41.600
a little while would get me into a choke in seconds.

1257
01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:50.560
But two really good people they can't. It's not that easy.

1258
01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:52.800
Not that it's that it will be easy for them,

1259
01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:59.760
but I'd say it's it's which in a way, as

1260
01:44:59.800 --> 01:45:08.039
a as an observer, as an audience, it I think

1261
01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:16.319
unless really into the sport, the skill doesn't necessarily impress

1262
01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:22.079
because not based on speed. But with you know, with races,

1263
01:45:22.399 --> 01:45:25.880
the one who wins first, one that gets their first wins.

1264
01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:29.520
It's a much easier thing to watch, isn't it a

1265
01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:36.479
running race, a swimming raceer waring rowing, sorry, rowing race,

1266
01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:43.560
hoeing hoeing rowing, horse race or whatever. You know, when

1267
01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:48.199
people are racing and it makes sense like okay, the

1268
01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:53.560
winner wins. But when it comes to like combat sports

1269
01:45:53.880 --> 01:45:57.039
is just so much more. I mean, boxing used to

1270
01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:01.199
be I preferred the boxing in the olymp how it

1271
01:46:01.359 --> 01:46:04.159
used to be when they used to have a scoring system,

1272
01:46:04.319 --> 01:46:08.880
when a beat like would actually every time a glove

1273
01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:13.880
touched the head guard or the body, it would trigger

1274
01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:18.720
off a point. So that was good because then you

1275
01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:22.000
could see how many points each boxer needed to win,

1276
01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:23.960
and if he was on one person's side, you so

1277
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:26.880
I've got get more, get more. Now they don't do

1278
01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.439
that anymore, if they don't even have head gear anymore.

1279
01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:36.279
I don't think in the amateur do they have head

1280
01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:39.239
gear in the the Olympics, I don't know if they

1281
01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:47.560
do anymore. They might do, so I think with because

1282
01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:52.199
I'm a very I'm a non fan when I watch

1283
01:46:52.279 --> 01:46:56.000
any other sport. So if I do watch something, I'm

1284
01:46:56.479 --> 01:46:59.840
looking for excitement in the same way as if someone

1285
01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:04.880
not really into boxing, they might watch the same five

1286
01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:08.039
as me and think what a pile of rubbish, and

1287
01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:12.239
I might think that was an amazing fight. It might

1288
01:47:12.319 --> 01:47:15.239
not be exciting in the sense of lots of action,

1289
01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:21.760
but the skill involved, you know, it might might be phenomenal.

1290
01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:28.640
The kind of skill you'd get with Mayweather, or the

1291
01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:36.119
kind of skill you get with Tyson Fury or with Usik.

1292
01:47:37.239 --> 01:47:46.239
There's different types of skill levels, or with Lumachenko phenomenal skills.

1293
01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:53.720
So it's not always exciting to watch, but you know,

1294
01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:57.279
I think there's a reason why only one person ever

1295
01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:06.960
beat Tyson Fury, and it was Usik, because Usik is phenomenal.

1296
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:12.119
He is now powerful pound the top out of everyone

1297
01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:17.760
at the moment. But is this something he's like, Wow,

1298
01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:23.000
he's got Yeah. Anyway, I won't bore you about talking

1299
01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:28.840
about boxing. But no, I'm not really interested in other sports.

1300
01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:38.760
Boxing is the only one I really like. And I'm

1301
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:44.880
trying to think of any others. No, not really. Sandy asks,

1302
01:48:45.039 --> 01:48:48.079
I would like to know if you have taught Vinny

1303
01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:52.039
any tricks, and also thank you for being with me

1304
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.399
for the last six years. I love fullness leap to

1305
01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:58.159
your stories. Well, thank you, Sandy, thank you for inviting

1306
01:48:58.239 --> 01:48:59.800
me to be with you for the last six years.

1307
01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:07.239
I'm happy to help Vinny. He's taught me a few tricks.

1308
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:12.640
Vinnie will not do a single thing I ask him

1309
01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:16.560
to do. Do you know the whole time I've had him,

1310
01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:23.199
which is two years and two years and five months

1311
01:49:24.439 --> 01:49:27.920
six months, nearly two years and six months I've had him,

1312
01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:31.760
he won't come into the kitchen unless he wants to.

1313
01:49:34.479 --> 01:49:36.920
And if I say to him, something's making a weird

1314
01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:41.560
noise over there. If I say to him, do you

1315
01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:45.720
want to come come in the kitchen, he just stands

1316
01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:53.279
at the door and stares at me. Right, I've now realized,

1317
01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:56.239
and this is a new thing. If I say to him,

1318
01:49:56.239 --> 01:50:02.720
stay there, he runs into the kitchen. He won't do

1319
01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:06.079
what I tell him. It does exactly the opposite. So

1320
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:08.159
I realized he wouldn't do what I told him. I

1321
01:50:08.279 --> 01:50:11.039
realized that. But he will do the opposite. So if

1322
01:50:11.079 --> 01:50:15.520
I don't want him to do something, I just tell

1323
01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:17.600
him to do the thing I don't want him to do,

1324
01:50:18.640 --> 01:50:21.039
and he does the thing that I do want him

1325
01:50:21.039 --> 01:50:26.359
to do. No, no, I tell him to tell him

1326
01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:28.279
to do the thing that I do want him to do,

1327
01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:30.800
but I tell him not to do the thing that

1328
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:35.840
Oh I knew what I meant. You know what I mean.

1329
01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:41.479
So if it's reverse psychology or whatever, but he will not.

1330
01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:45.760
If I say sit, he stands, I say stand, he sits.

1331
01:50:47.319 --> 01:50:51.159
He You know, he won't do a single thing I

1332
01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:56.479
tell him or ask him. The only thing he's ever

1333
01:50:56.600 --> 01:51:03.600
done consistently is when I'm out. And only command he

1334
01:51:03.640 --> 01:51:07.840
ever listens to is when I shout to him, vinny

1335
01:51:08.279 --> 01:51:13.279
ignore me, and he does the only thing he actually

1336
01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:20.119
listens to. So he won't do anything, no tricks, nothing,

1337
01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:28.279
He's just completely is all about him. It does whatever

1338
01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:34.119
he wants, whenever he wants, even in bed, right if

1339
01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:39.520
I accidentally touch him, my hand moves, over all, my

1340
01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:47.520
leg moves. He growls at me. It's my bed, he

1341
01:51:47.880 --> 01:52:01.439
growls at me. He's very, very, a little bit temperamental. Ah,

1342
01:52:07.920 --> 01:52:10.439
I think that's all the questions. I've got no idea

1343
01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:13.119
how long I've been doing this for, but it's now

1344
01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:19.600
tend to four, so I've been doing it over an

1345
01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:25.520
hour warm in it. That's because I opened our closed

1346
01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:28.199
the window. Isn't it because of that man doing washing,

1347
01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:35.199
cleaning the windows or whatever? So thank you for listening,

1348
01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:38.239
and remember to be kind to yourself because you do

1349
01:52:38.439 --> 01:52:43.119
deserve to be happy. Lots of love, bye,