May 6, 2025

(no music) PIGEONS | Trivia Tuesday | LMBYTS #1346 | 6th May 2025

(no music) PIGEONS | Trivia Tuesday | LMBYTS #1346 | 6th May 2025
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Hello, and welcome to jasonnew Land dot com. My name's

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Jason Newland. Please only listen when you can safely close

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your eyes. And this is Trivia Tuesday. Hello. This is

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going to be in spats and spurts because there are

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well there's still building work going on downstairs, so I

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don't Yeah, I just kind of got to stop talking

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when when the building's going on. Every now and then

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there's big ol drill that shakes to the whole flat.

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But it's not it's not continuous. It's not like all

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the time, So I'm okay with that. For what I

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just do a recording and just take a little break

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whenever there's a sound. Although, to be honest, I don't

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think you'll hear it, but it's not like super loud

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on the microphone because of microphone, because it's weirdly enough,

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it's a good microphone, so it doesn't pick up too

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much of background stuff, if that makes sense. So what

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I'm going to do, I need to figure out what

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I'm going to talk about for my this week's Tuesday

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Trivia Tuesday. I don't know. I'm trying to think before

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I go further. Just let you know about my website.

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It's Chasonnewland dot com doosands and thousands of my recordings

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are on there. You can stream, you can download, I've

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got links. Right the top of the page, there's all

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my main podcasts in a carousel kind of thing that

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you can just skip through to choose which one you want. So,

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for example, if you wanted Relaxation for Stress and Panic Attacks,

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you can click on that and that brings you to

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the main website with the latest recordings, and then at

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the top in the index you've got podcasts, which takes

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you to all the different podcasts. So there's the main one,

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which is Hypnosis of Sleeping Deeply, which is actually on

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the first page of the podcast of the website. Then

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there's to Let Me Boy to Sleep, Chronic Pain Hypnosis,

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Deep Sleep, Whisper Hypnosis, Jason's Bedtime, story Time, Let Me

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BOYR Pain Away, relac Station for Stress and Panic Attacks,

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relax and Sleep Hypnosis, Daily Sleepy, Borrowing Objects, Stop Smoking Hypnosis,

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Stress and Pain Relief, Stop Now Biting, and Q and

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a Friday. So there that's on there, and then you've

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got we've also got playlists, so those same podcasts but

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with playlists. So if you click on let Me Boy Sleep.

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For example, You've got lots of different playlists all broken

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into fifties. So for example, if you wanted to listen

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to seven hundred and one to seven hundred and fifty,

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just click on that one and it gives you all

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of those podcasts listed. And again you can stream or download,

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or you can even fast or slow down fast or

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some speed slow down if I'm talking too fast, that

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is of course. What else. I've got a YouTube channel

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at Jason Newland which is now my podcast, so I

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upload all the latest recordings on there that you can stream.

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You can listen to. Also Facebook group called Jason Newlands

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boring group that you're welcome to join, So that's available.

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I've had new two new people, which I will mention

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So nope, Facebook, where's Facebook? Faithbook? Facebook? So so so

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we've got two new people joined, yes, or today I

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think is today? I've got so we had Hope joined

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a couple of days ago, three days ago, and today

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we have had Mitchell and ah, this is weird. Where

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is it? No, there's a there's a thing saying welcome.

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So I know exactly who it is because I've already

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spoken to them. So it's Karna. I think it's Karna,

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or Coroner, Corina or Coroner or Ka. I think it's Karina.

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But Corina and Mitchell. Welcome to this groovy Facebook group.

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I'm no longer on SoundCloud, but you're welcome to start

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a SoundCloud page yourself and just add my recordings, just

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download them from my website and just add them on

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there if you wanted to, and also welcome you. I

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invite you to do that on any of the apps

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and share my recordings. And also you could have open

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a group, whether it's another Facebook group, or whether it's

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TikTok group or Instagram or wherever wherever you listen to

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your recordings or these recordings, or whether you like to

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sort of spend time, you could have a little group

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on there where you could share the new recordings if

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you want to. I mean it just it helps me,

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but also helps other people to discover my weird recordings. Yeah,

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what is a viny? What is? I look over and

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he's trying to get to the table on the little

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table side to the side of the thing. And I

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don't know why. I really don't know why. I've had

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four phone calls from a neighbor. And they called one

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two three times yesterday, the one two three four times yesterday. No,

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not Friday, that was Friday. What day is it today? Now?

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They called twice yesterday and called four times today. I

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wonder what's going on. They've not left a voicemause, so

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it can't be important, can it. Otherwise I'd leave a

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voice for my message. Uh? Yes, So that's this? So really,

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so I need to figure out what I'm going to

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do regarding the actual trivia Tuesday, because I honestly I

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didn't you know, I don't know. I do know, I

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really do. I thought if you if you do, if

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you listen to this and you normally listen to SoundCloud,

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then just let you know. Also on my website, there's

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a link with podcast apps that's in the index or

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in the index, whatever you call it, and I've listed all,

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well most of the main podcasts which you can click on.

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So for example, cast box is there, and it gives

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you a link to each and every one of my podcasts,

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so you can listen on there or on Apple podcasts

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or podcast app or Deezer Luminary podcast, Republic player FM.

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This is boring, isn't it? Podcast Addict, podcast Index, Podchaser,

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pod Friend. There's a lot of pods, isn't there, Podverse, Podbean, Spreaker.

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Of course, that's where I that's where the home is

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for my podcasts and Spotify, so and there's a p Yeah.

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Spotify has all of my podcasts on there as well,

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and there's a link you can find them sometimes if

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you go directly to Spotify. There's some old podcasts that

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don't work. I don't know why they keep them on there.

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So if you want to find the most up to

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date podcasts and the correct link maybe just to my website.

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It's really easy to find from there. And then you

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can just save that link if you want to what else?

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Or else? What else? What else? What else? What else?

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And I think I might need a toilet, so I

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just popped down pop around the corner to see what

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they wanted. And they gave me a bone for Vinnie,

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like a lambbone big old thing because he can't have

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little bones because it's not good, you know, it's not

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a good idea, but a big bone or a little

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bit too big for him. But he's loving it. And

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there was just Monly just then there to break it up.

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So he's very happy little boy. Now it's weird because

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one of the people, the neighbor, She said, will he

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growl at me if I try and take it off him?

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I said, yeah, probably. She went up and he did

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like a little growl. I ran away like and I said,

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you think that's nothing, wait to see what he does

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with me. And I walked up to him and he growd.

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He started barking, seriously, doesn't treat me the same as

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other people. It's not fair. So I got no idea

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what I was talking about. And I feel like I've

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not even really started the recording. I feel a little

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bit flustered, a little bit blustered, a little bit to

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be fair, I don't know. So need to do trivia

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on something. Find trivia on pigeons. Find trivia on pigeons.

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The thing is, I'm using chat g p t T

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P g BT look likely to use them in pigeons

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instead of pigeons. Okay, sorry, I pronounced I spelled it wrongly,

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pig Yeah, to be fair and find Yeah, okay, is

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that better spelled it correctly? Yeah? Is it is it? Ah?

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So here we are one hundred trivi effects about pigeons.

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I don't know why this is a trivia fact, but

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it says pigeons can recognize themselves in a mirror. I'm

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not quite sure what that means. No, I know what

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it means, but the is that unusual for a bird

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to be able to recognize themselves in a mirror? I mean,

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what do they brush their hair? Did they go they

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like do the old Phonsie, You have to be very

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old to know what I'm talking about. There, you know,

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he as they comb in their hair, everything's perfect. They've

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been trained to detect some medical issues from medical images. Wow,

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now that from an image. See. I don't know how

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much of this is true or just made up, so

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I'm just gonna I'll say it anyway, but it might

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all be lies. This is true, this next one. I

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know this. Pigeons were used extensively in World Wars as

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message carriers. Yes, they were phenomenal, really, but I think

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I don't quite know how it works. But I think

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once a pigeon knows a root, so once if you

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can take a pigeon, you can blind fold a pigeon

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and take it to the other side of the country, see,

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and it will find its way back to where it lives.

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So if I had a pigeon living here unless I

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got Horace and I grabbed him blindfolded him, which would

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be rude considering he's classroom as a remember of the family. Really,

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and I took him to Wales Banger in Wales always Banger,

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are you anyway? You know? Just up Whales area and

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unblindfolded him? What is the opposite that blindfolded? Unblindfolding? I

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mean removing the blindfold, but unblindfolded is that the correct term?

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I don't know, and say go on go home now?

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To start with, he'd probably be a bit annoyed to me.

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Why did you blindfold me? You know, after all his years,

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why would you do something like that, after all his

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contribution I've made to your podcasts over the years, going

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do you not appreciate anything I've done? And it'll be

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The thing is, if I took him there, how would

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I know if you've got home or not? I suppose

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now you could have a thing attached to it, can

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you which should like one of those things are having

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cars that you can tell where you are. I mean

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in the old days you'd look out the window, but

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now you can look at the screen, which makes me

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wonder how come you're not allowed to use a phone.

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You're not allowed to use a phone in a car,

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even if it's hands free. So what's the laws? Can

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I use hands free phone in car to text? Can

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I use hands free FI in the cal It's illegal?

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So it's illegal to use a handheld I said hands

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free is illegal for a driver to use a handheld

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mobile when driving to read a text or to receive

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check messages in what about using a using a phone

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setting over of a device when driving? You can use

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a device held in your hand. If one you need

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to call nine nine nine nine nine or one one

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one two two five whatever? One one two, I don't

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even know what the one one two is? What is that?

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In an emergency? And it's unsafe or impractical to stop?

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Two you're safety parked. Three you're making a contactless payment

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in a vehicle that is not moving, for example as

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a drive through restaurant, okay, or for you're using a

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device to park your Two What are you using a

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device to park your vehicle remotely? They forgot one very

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important one. There's no one around. If there's no one around,

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you can't get in trouble. I think that's the one

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probably should be the top of the list that most

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people use. I actually saw a Lorry once. And when

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I leave a pause like that, it sounds like I'm

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bragging about having seen a Lorry. No, there's more to

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the story. I saw a Lorry driving past me and

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I'm waiting to cross the road. He didn't see me,

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and as he passed, and it was very it wasn't okay,

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it wasn't. It wasn't fast traffic. But I saw he

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was watching television or watching a video. It looked like

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he had a TV like a maybe it was a

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tablet or something like that, and he was watching something

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while he was driving. Now I understand probably driving it

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can be a bit boring, and if you're doing it

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all day long, even now that we've got the technology,

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I mean, it's got to be probably quite tempting to

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play video games and stuff. I don't know, but generally,

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I'm just thinking maybe we should be looking out the

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window that the driver. That is. That's why I'm thinking

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with driver. I think the only way driverless cars can

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work is if all cars are driverless. As long as

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there's humans driving rivalless cars, I don't think will work

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like one hundred percent, because there's always going to be

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that human error. But once every single car on the

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road is automated and all synced together, it kind of

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makes crashes and stuff almost impossible. Almost, I mean, other

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than I guess vehicular failure like a tire bursting or

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stuff like that. I suppose, and I'm looking forward to

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that in the future because i'd like to own a

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car one day. I don't quite know how my finances

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are going to allow that, but I think it'd be

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quite cool to have a car but not have to

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drive it, to have that that freedom, because if you're

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in a self driving car, surely you can just do

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anything you want. You don't need to be aware. I

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don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you have to be

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like the second driver. You're almost like the do you

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know when you get driving lessons and you've got the

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other instructor, or the instructor is in the passenger seat,

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but they've also can take control of the car if

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they need to. Maybe it's like that. Perhaps if the

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the automatic car is just having a grumpy day, just

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doesn't want to do anything, you can I don't know

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how that would work, but yeah, you can bring it back,

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and so I hope that's it. I'm taking over. See,

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here's one that I didn't quite understand. Okay, you don't

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use a phone when you're driving, I mean even distraction

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like really driving. But the big I think the biggest

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distraction for any driver is a passenger. I mean, realistically,

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it's the passenger that's the biggest distraction for a driver,

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especially as the passengers talking and going on and on

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and on and on and on, and if you've got

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like kids in the car with arguing, and that's more

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of a distraction using the phone, I imagine. And mean

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you could say, well, you can still keep your eyes

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on the on the road, yeah, but it's still ahead

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a distraction. Listening to the radio, listen to music. It's

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a distraction, but it's allowed. I do think it's a

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little bit excessive for them to say that if it's

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stopped at the traffic lights, then you can't look at

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your phone, because I'm just thinking of every scenario, the

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most that can happen is you're just going to annoy

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someone behind you by not going quick enough, you know,

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by not being aware of the traffic's changing. I mean,

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I haven't given it a lot of thought maybe it

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would be dangerous, but it seems like it's just be

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annoying queuing in traffic. This I do understand because I've

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actually seen this in the past where yeah, I mean,

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I think if you stood on the side of the road,

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you would see, like if you just stood there for

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eight hours, you would see hundreds of cars. If it's

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a busy road days, you'd see hundreds of drivers using

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their mobile phones while they're driving, especially if the traffic's

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were really slow, like in almost like a traffic jam,

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you'll see probably i'd say eight out of ten, maybe

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even higher, of the drivers using their mobile phone in

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their hand, holding it down so no one can see.

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Doesn't quite work when it's nighttime, but you can see

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the light, That's what I mean. But I do kind

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of understand why because I was I mean, it's this

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person was parked, so technically you could say he wasn't

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breaking in the laws because he was parked and he

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was using his phone, and I was on my way

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to work. And this is back in probably two thousand

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and six, maybe two thousand and five, Yeah, two thousand

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and five, I'd say, maybe two thousand and six, So

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I'm on my way to work and I'm just crossing

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over behind this van and the ban the van reverses

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into me. I mean, I get out of the way

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in time, and I managed to jump onto the pavement

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like the hero that I am. And Nope, I'm not

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going to sing it. And I looked into his thing

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and he was on the phone. He didn't even know,

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he was completely oblivious. And yeah, it wasn't the greatest starter.

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I hate to be honest. Oh, the law still applies

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if you're supervising a learner driver. Isn't this interesting? So

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you could be you can be a driving instructor. You're

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not even in charge of the car, but technically you are.

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You know, even though the other person's driving, you do

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have control on you to change things. But you can't

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use a phone there. The law still applies if you're

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driving a car that turns off the engine when you

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stop moving, Well, you can't do anything with the car,

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can you? So what? Yeah? And holding and using a

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device as offline or in flight mode? Why why would

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you use the devices offline or in flight mode? What

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would you do with it? Unless you're using a calculator.

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I mean, you're kind of limited. Don't you to what

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you could do if it's in flight mode, so you're

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not allowed to even hold the phone? What bet if

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it's turned off? What bet if it's in bits? What

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about if it's not being delivered yet you can't? What

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about holding in an empty box? What about holding a

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receipt of a mobile phone that you purchased? Can't hold

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that when you're driving a car? I don't know. Maybe

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that's going over the top. Using devices hands free, you

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can use devices of a hands free access as long

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as you do not hold them at any time during usage.

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Hands Free access means using, for example, a Bluetooth handset

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voice command, a dashboard holder or matt, a windscreen muff mount,

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a windscreen mount, a built in saw no built in

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sat nav, my eyesight built in sat nav? Okay. Studies

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have been done in the past that actually having Bluetooth

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and talking to someone on the phone is a distraction,

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But hey, what about watching watching a movie or watching

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YouTube or TikTok videos while you're driving? Because that's a screen,

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isn't it. Penalties You can get six penalty points that

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are two hundred pounds fine if you hold and use

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a phone sat nav tablet or any device that can

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send and received data while driving or ride in the motorcycle.

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To be fair, if you're riding in a motorcycle, I

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can't imagine. I mean, how do you use a tablet

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and ride a motorcycle at the same time, especially with

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them big gloves. I mean, they're not really suited for

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tablet screens, are they. You can get three penalty points

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if you don't do not have a full view of

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the road and traffic ahead, or proper control of the vehicle.

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You're what I often wonder about. You know when someone

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gets sent to prison and you know, they get like

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maybe they don't stop, there's an accident, they don't stop,

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and it's quite a serious situation. They get get for

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caught and they get put in prison for six years,

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let's say five years in prison and band for driving

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bann driving for two years. We're not gonna be able

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to drive for two years anyway, because I've spent this

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next six years in prison. I mean, even with a

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third off, they're still not going to have time to

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drive today. I don't think they'll let you out on

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like little excursions, excursions in your fancy going for drive,

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So I don't know what the rules are about watching.

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Can I use hand Can I can I watch watch

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tiktop TikTok videos when driving hands free? Oh that's illegal

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as well. However, they're using a handheld device whilst driving

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is illegal and could lead to fines, even points, being

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under your license or even worse, even if you're filming

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hands free. Even if you're filming hands free, you can

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still be penalized by the police if you're deemed to

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be distracted, a risk, not really not working. So I

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was thinking more watching, but they're talking about making a

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TikTok video. So if you're filming yourself while you're driving,

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which I'm pretty certain all taxi drivers do for their

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own protection, but they're not doing it, probably for TikTok videos,

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unless when they're not around. They do a little dance

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when it's in between customers, but you know, TikTok dance

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or whatever. So let's have a look what isn't and

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isn't legal. I want to see there's any loopholes using

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the handheld mobile phone while behind the bar beyond by that,

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but why is it taking Okay, it's gone, so it

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just covered it all up using a handheld mobile phone

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whilst behind the wheel has been long controversial and incredibly

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dangerous issue for UK drivers. Okay, so let's go through

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what is hands free phone? Use the law so you

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can't hold it behind the way beyond the world? Fair enough?

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And what if you need to take it out? What

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if it falls out of the holder and you need

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to put it back into the holder? What if? What

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if the screen's dirty? You need to wipe the screen

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on your trousers. Hey, this stupid thing is coming up.

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This is a really bad website. It's the menus right

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at the top and there's not enough room for the text,

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which I understand. The menu is important, and I've got

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a menu on my website, but it's not. It doesn't

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take up it's not on top of the page. It's

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at the top of the page. It's not on top

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of the page. Literally, it's taken up three quarters of

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the page just for the menu. Wow. No, I'm not

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happy with that. I'm moving on right. Penguins, no pigeons,

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I mean a pigeon named sir Ami received the creaks

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d Go for bravery in w W one cool and

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pigeons can see ultra violet light okay, I'm not sure

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what benefit that is, but I assure know his benefit

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to it. Look, their navigational skills rival modern GPS is yep,

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I mean they do. But I've spoken to Horace in

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all fairness, you know, because I was I was speaking

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to the other day. I said, look, I said, you

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know pigeons. He said, well, I am one, I said,

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and I also do not other pigeons as well. And

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I said, okay, but do you you know in the

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old days, you used to deliver packages and deliver messages.

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He said, well, other I heard of such a thing,

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but I've never done it because I'm only three. I said, okay,

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but did you Is it still possible to do? He said, well, yeah,

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we've got we've got pretty the best navigational skills that

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arrive on modern GPS's. That was his exact word in

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which makes me think he wrote this. And I said, okay,

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in that case, can you just pop this message around

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the corner. I just tie it to your to your collar.

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He said, I haven't got a collar. Get off me,

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Get off me, Take that collar off me. So I

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put a collar on him, and I added this to

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a collar, and I said, he said, okay, but just

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promise me you won't blindfold me anymore. I said, I can't.

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You won't be able to fly if you're blindfolded. Well,

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he said, actually pretty skillful. I said, okay, weird, and

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he said, what do you want it? I said, well,

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she just ran a corner Bakerville Avenue. Bakerville Avenue, It's

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like three minute walk from here, but I'm busy and

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I just don't really want to go around there. He said, okay.

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He's gone for about six hours. In the meantime, the

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neighbors phone me up, saying, where's that message you were

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going to send in your carrier pigeon? I said, I

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don't know. Did you not get it? He said, well no,

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because we wouldn't be phoning you if we'd got it. Would

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I wouldn't be saying where is the message? If I'd

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got it? That would just be weird. I said, okay,

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fair enough. BlimE me. What's everyone being rude today? And

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eventually turned up. He looked very sheepish. I mean by

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that it wasn't covered in wool. He he just looked

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a bit like, oh embarrassed, And I said, what happened?

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He said, couldn't find it. I said, what do you

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mean he couldn't. It's literally around the corner. He said,

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I couldn't find it. And I said, I thought you

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had the navigational skills that rival modern GPS's And he said, yeah.

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But we'd understand is if I lived there and you

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brought me here, I could find my way back there.

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That's how it works. I said, why didn't you tell

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me that to start with? Why did we waste eight hours?

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He said, I thought might make an interesting story for

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your podcast. I said, look of podcasts are not about

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being interested. It's about being boring. It's about being calming

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people and just being relaxing, and it's not supposed to

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be a super stimulating interesting stuff about myself. And he said, well,

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you do quite well then, because I've never heard anything

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interesting come out of your mouth yet, which he gains

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that rude. Why just because he messes up and he's

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not able to find an address around the corner. The

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passenger pigeon, now extinct, was once the most numerous bird

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in North America. I don't know why. I mean passenger pigeons.

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The problem is they just got a bit lazy. I think,

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do you want to do anything like, lets someone else

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do it. I'll just sit in a passenger seat. And

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maybe that's what it was. Charles Darwin kept pigeons and

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bred them for his evolution studies. Oh, I don't want

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to know about that. I imagined there was some weird stuff

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going on there. I'm not saying Charles Darling was Darwin

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was had a pigeon fetish. I'm just saying that it

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might have been strange. Pigeons can recognize all twenty six

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letters of the alphabet. Really, can they recognize them? Or

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do they just look at them? Now? Vinnie Vinnie looks

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at a book. Don't mean he can read, you know

464
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.599
what I mean? He watched the TV, don't mean he

465
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:32.079
knows what's going on. He looks at my shoes. It

466
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.480
looks at my shoes. Doesn't mean he can tap dance.

467
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:42.039
I want to learn to tap dance. They can distinguish

468
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:49.440
between different human faces, Which isn't that just a standard

469
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:57.000
thing like for everything? Not maybe not worms. But I

470
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:02.559
just you weird, isn't it. You hear a little voice

471
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.280
walking through the through the park. Hear a little voice, Hello,

472
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:10.360
you're right then? What how you doing? You're okay? I

473
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.440
ain't seen you in a while. It's a little worm

474
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:19.000
holding numberella. Yeah, let me see you for one. Okay,

475
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.000
do I know you? Yeah? Yeah, you nearly trodd on

476
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:27.920
me about a week ago. Uh, sorry about that. I

477
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.840
don't worry about It's okay, don't matter. I mean if

478
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.400
you do, I just even if you cut me into,

479
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:39.039
it won't make any difference. Really said, yeah, yeah, yeah,

480
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.039
go on do it. If you want to cut me into,

481
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.840
I'll be fine. I'll just continue, I'll just be two

482
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:48.159
of me. Then is that true or is that just

483
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:52.119
something that we think when we're kids, And maybe it

484
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.960
isn't true? So why don't you search it online and

485
00:40:56.039 --> 00:41:00.400
find out when you do your podcast? It's okay? Can

486
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:11.440
worms be cutting off and still live? So the head

487
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.920
of a worm may survive and regenerate its tail. If

488
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:22.159
cut behind the glitterius or the clitter clit, the clit elam,

489
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:29.239
the clit elum, the head of the worm may it

490
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:34.400
regenerates its tail. The original tail of the world will

491
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.760
not be able to grow a new head or other

492
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:45.199
vital organs. Okay, So why is more research not put

493
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:50.079
into this to find out what how it works? Because

494
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.800
that would be perfect, wouldn't it We remove a part

495
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:59.199
of the body and a new one grows back, and

496
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.239
if you could choose the size of that new part,

497
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:05.559
maybe have it grow back a little bit bigger. I mean,

498
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.440
you know, I might be in a queue there. How

499
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.800
many were This is a weird one. This is a

500
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:18.199
BBC Science Focus magazine, and it is a question that

501
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.480
perhaps I would ask, but I didn't expect to see it.

502
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.320
How many times can a worm be split in half

503
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:32.480
and still grow back? So it says here, contrary to popularly,

504
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:36.400
contrary to popular belief, worms cut in half don't actually

505
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:39.519
turn into two new worms. So that worm was lying

506
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.119
to me, wasn't it saying, Oh, I only grow into no,

507
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.880
only one part apart from the head down that grows

508
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.719
back in a new tail. I just want to look

509
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.239
at this, So there's a hand holding a worm. I

510
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:00.159
don't think they. I think they use stock images for

511
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:07.639
these these websites, because I'm just thinking. You mentioned if

512
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:11.920
you as a model and you get told, oh, you've

513
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.639
got got a bit of work for you today, I

514
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.840
need to take like a couple of hours. All right,

515
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.880
What am I going? What's it for? It's for Science Focus,

516
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:27.679
as BBC magazine Science Focus website, and it's just an image.

517
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:32.599
What would I be doing? Oh, you don't have to

518
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:35.159
worry about that, just just just go in make sure

519
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.840
you yeah, you just turn up on time and stuff. No,

520
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:40.880
just don't have interest. What am I going to be doing?

521
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:48.039
H You're going to be holding a worm? That's the

522
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:55.199
picture holding a worm, A hand holding a worm. Why

523
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:00.679
don't you just use stock footage from the internet? So

524
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.119
you're turning down work? Is that what you're saying, so

525
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.719
you don't want to get paid? No? No, not that.

526
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.400
I'm just thinking it just seems a bit weird that

527
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.559
they would. Why not just use an image? You can

528
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.599
get an image easy off any website or you know,

529
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.719
not any website. I guess it needs to be like

530
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:25.599
worm focused, worm focused on the website. You're probably not

531
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.519
going to go on McDonald's to find pictures of worms. Generally,

532
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:37.280
I don't know where I'm going with this. Well, look

533
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.519
at this. To a biologist, worm refers to many quite

534
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:46.000
different organisms. The ability to regrow body parts differs anomalously

535
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:51.199
between them. Although toils are generally easier to regrow if

536
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.760
you mean earthworms, their towels usually die when severed, while

537
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:58.480
for many other species, the head portion down to the

538
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:05.039
saddle can regrow a tail, although often a stunted one.

539
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:09.079
But you wouldn't really complain them, would you. You know,

540
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:14.719
I don't like I've grown back my tail. But it's

541
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:22.800
not as long as it used to be. Earthworms could

542
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.920
fully generate from one specific quarture of their body, it's certain,

543
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:37.920
although it's not really known. And okay, some Doguesesia species

544
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:42.760
can fully regrow from random body fragments of about ten

545
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:51.320
thousand cells, approximately one twentieth of the adult body size. Wow,

546
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.960
I mean that's science. I mean it's science. It's science fiction,

547
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:01.440
isn't it. Really? If you think about it, you get

548
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:06.599
some of these superheroes that grow back. I'm thinking of Deadpool,

549
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:14.840
for example. He grows back parts to have nineteen percent

550
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.159
of the body gone, to have just one twentieth of

551
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.719
the body and the rest of the body grows back.

552
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:32.280
That's phenomenal. But then if you remember carry On Screaming,

553
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:36.360
it's a movie carry on movie, and it's like it

554
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:41.920
was their their mickey take of the hammer House horror movies.

555
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.519
Really it's funny. I love the Harry I love the

556
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.880
carry On films. I also loved the Harry Harry the

557
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:53.519
Horror hammer House horror films as well. But this there

558
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:59.039
was one bit and they found the I forget his name,

559
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:04.519
but he big Biggie Bongo or something, and he gets

560
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.159
his finger cut off. So they find his finger and

561
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:12.400
they regenerate from the finger a whole new monster. Odd Bod.

562
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:21.360
It's odd Bod and Minibod something like that, and great. Great.

563
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.360
If you've never seen it, have a little look. It's

564
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:26.320
probably on YouTube, to be fair, let's have a look.

565
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:30.760
Is it on YouTube. Let's just skip, let's go to YouTube.

566
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:45.119
YouTube carry on screaming, carry on screaming, full film. It

567
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:51.639
is not okay, Oh, you can buy our rents. Yeah.

568
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.920
YouTube can be a bit weird like that. It's you

569
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:56.559
can get some of them. You can get carried on

570
00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:08.960
kiber the full film. You carry on screaming only one point. Yeah, no, no,

571
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:20.039
how's strange. No it's not on there. I don't know

572
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:28.400
where the carry on movies are available to all watch.

573
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:40.519
I don't know anyway. The it's a good movie. I

574
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.320
like it. I like all the carry on movies. I

575
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:49.000
don't know why. I think it's an nostewic thing for me.

576
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:57.800
I grew up watching them, and there's there's personally, there's

577
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:02.519
a feel good lement to watching them because they're very

578
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:08.079
playful and very silly, and I don't know, I just

579
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:19.400
like them. Some I've seen this. Some pigeons have been

580
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:26.199
trained to play pingball, which I've found. I've seen this.

581
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:32.440
I see. Yeah, pigeons can learn abstract numerical rules, like

582
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:40.559
three years more than two. Okay, how did they discover

583
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:45.880
these things? The term pigeon covers over three hundred species

584
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:53.239
of birds. M hmm, rock, I mean doves. Doves are pigeons,

585
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:59.480
aren't they. The dove is just a white pigeon. No,

586
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.199
it's not, is it different bird? No, dove is a pigeon,

587
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:10.880
is a dove? A pigeon's a dove pigeon. Doves and

588
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:13.960
pigeons are technically the same thing, but I have different

589
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:22.039
new numbers of chromosomes that ah, so there's issues to

590
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.199
prevent them from mating with each other. They're pretty much

591
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:31.920
the same bird, and they're from the same bird family

592
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:39.400
called Colombia cumba lumbee day. However, colloquial English tends to

593
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:43.119
categorize them by size, so doves are a little bit

594
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:50.639
smaller than pigeons. I think ten key differences. According to

595
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:55.880
this website, bird helpful because who if they probably fought,

596
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:00.000
you know, one day we'll put this thing dove versus

597
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.840
pigeon would do this article because one day someone's going

598
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:06.000
to want to know. This was January twenty eighth, two

599
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:10.920
thy twenty four and who knew that one day I'd

600
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:14.360
need to know? So it says here are you amongst

601
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.320
those who often wonder whether doves are or are pigeons

602
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.760
or vice versa. To give you a headstart, they are

603
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:23.559
not the same, or though they do have a lot

604
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:27.679
of similarities, they're the same. Doves and pigeons are too

605
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:33.079
closely related avian species, although both are small to medium

606
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:36.880
sized birds. Pigeons are slightly bigger and of wider wings

607
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:42.679
span than doves. Besides physical differences, these two birds also

608
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:49.480
different differ in their habitat preferences, diets, behavior, calls, and

609
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:53.400
a snoll. Let's focus on similarities. Why is everyone focus

610
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:59.079
on differences? You know? Just get back to conclusion inclusion.

611
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:04.719
Come on location. The dove worldwide, but most common in

612
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:10.360
warm climates. The pigeon, again worldwide, but most common in

613
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:16.719
urban areas. You get the wood pigeon, don't you, which

614
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.360
is in the woods. So the body in shape dove

615
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.119
is smaller and delicate of a sleek body, smaller head,

616
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:27.360
and slender neck. That picture there looks like a seagull

617
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:32.320
body in shape. Pigeons a bit larger, plumper, bigger head.

618
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:38.000
There's not a lot in it really sort of wait,

619
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:40.760
ninety six one hundred and seventy grounds for the dove,

620
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:44.800
two hundred and fifty five to three hundred and sixty

621
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:52.559
eight grounds for the pigeon. Yeah, the wingspan is there's

622
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:56.039
quite a lot of difference in size. The pigeon can

623
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:02.000
can drive a lot faster than the dove. The dove

624
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:05.400
can drive forty to fifty five miles an hour, and

625
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.760
the pigeon can drive seventy seven to ninety three miles

626
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:14.159
an hour. I mean that's going to be dependent upon

627
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.639
wind surely. I mean on a really windy day, give

628
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:19.719
it a hurricane, it can probably drive about two hundred

629
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:27.079
miles an hour. Behavior gentle docile birds, which one you

630
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:31.559
think that is? It's the dove. Behavior of the pigeons

631
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:36.440
more aggressive than doves, but it's still relatively docile. Horace

632
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:41.559
is pretty gin. It's pretty genuine most of the time,

633
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:46.199
quite gentle, but has a bit of an attitude sometimes

634
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:56.360
so predators, for BlimE me, it says predators, owls, cats, dogs,

635
00:53:56.519 --> 00:54:05.440
all that stuff. They're forgotten seagulls, seagulls, SIGs. Honestly, I've

636
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:11.559
seen seagulls do some weird things, and not just yeah,

637
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.599
I'm not saying that weird, but just like strange things.

638
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:19.679
Rock pigeons are the ones we most often see in cities.

639
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:24.800
They were domesticated that over five thousand years ago in

640
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:35.280
the Middle East. Ancient Egyptians used pigeons to deliver messages. Yeah, okay,

641
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.719
and we did up to a few years ago. Pigeons

642
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:45.079
are monogamous and often made for life. I had another interruption.

643
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:51.760
Then he was whining again. I took him into the garden,

644
00:54:51.840 --> 00:55:00.360
thinking he might need a you know, a PLoP. Didn't,

645
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.079
just did a wei and came back inside. So he

646
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:17.400
So pigeons share parenting duties. Both sexes incubate eggs and

647
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:32.079
feed chicks. Cool. I wonder what chicks eat, but really,

648
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:38.639
if you think about it, if birds eat worms, then

649
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:43.920
it makes sense if they just took the bottom half

650
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:50.400
of the worm with its permission, of course, and then

651
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:54.599
it could just grow back and it keep you know,

652
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:58.440
it wouldn't diminish the worms. The worms would be happy. Well,

653
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.119
I have to be happy, but they'll probably be happy

654
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:13.119
er than if they were just ingested a whole. And yeah,

655
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:15.840
I wonder why whit birds and worms don't get together

656
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.119
and say say, look, we know you're gonna we know

657
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:22.159
what you're up to. Maybe we can come to some

658
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:30.840
kind of agreement. Baby pigeons are called squabs. Don't see

659
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:38.639
baby pigeons very often. I don't. I can't remember the

660
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.400
last time I saw a baby one. You really see

661
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.719
baby pigeons, because this is the next one. You really

662
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:50.719
see baby pigeons because they're staying nests until almost adult sized.

663
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.960
They feed their young with breast and pigeon milk sorry,

664
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:05.679
a protein rich secretion from their so that's what they

665
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:10.920
feed on until really pigeons can fly. Okay, we'll have

666
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.760
done that. The fastest recording racing pigeon flew at ninety

667
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:21.360
three miles per hour. They can fly over six hundred

668
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:26.320
miles a day. Yeah, horrors, couldn't manage around the corner

669
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.639
imagining these defense like, yeah, but I did six hundred miles.

670
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:39.000
I just went in the wrong direction. Okay. Pigeons used

671
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:45.920
the Earth's magnetic field to navigate. They can also use

672
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:52.800
the position of the sun for orientation. Okay. Homing pigeons

673
00:57:52.880 --> 00:58:04.079
were used in the Olympics to carry results. Why do

674
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:11.480
you mean to other countries before raid one? No, I'm

675
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:15.840
trying to think why would they need to carry the results?

676
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:23.519
I don't know. Pigeons are mentioned in the Bible as acceptable, okay,

677
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:26.079
and I want to finish that sentence. They are a

678
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:34.199
symbol of peace and the Holy Spirit in Christianity. In Hinduism,

679
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:48.719
feeding pigeons is considered a pious act, right. I'm going

680
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:51.599
to have to look that up. I'm a little bit

681
00:58:51.639 --> 00:59:01.840
confused at that one. Oh oh, okay, I was first second,

682
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.719
I was thinking that they were against it. But it's

683
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:11.079
something they do with devotion or in this word, moral

684
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:15.000
integrity and the adherence to ethical standards, aimed at achieve

685
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:21.760
in spiritual merits. Okay. So as a part, I know

686
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:24.239
what pioused me. I just thought I don't know. For

687
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.920
some reason, I did know what pious meant. The pigeon

688
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.159
is one of the few birds with the ability to

689
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:36.440
drink water without tilting its hic pack as the thing's

690
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:43.559
a bit random. Who noticed that there are pigeons races

691
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:51.039
with cash prize is worth millions. Some pigeons have sold

692
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:55.440
for over one point four million. You know, he does

693
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:59.519
something really weird. Earlier, came back from my neighbor's house. Okay,

694
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:06.000
my microphone is moving around for some reason, and he

695
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:08.960
started eating it in their garden. Then I brought him around.

696
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.880
I put it back in its tinfoil, brought it here.

697
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He was trying to get it all the way, you know, back,

698
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give it to me, and give it to me. It's mine.

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I get home and he's just staring at me. So

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as soon as we get back inside, I take his

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01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:30.400
lead off and I put it on the floor. It's

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in a tinfoil. He picks a tinfoil up. The bone

703
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.840
falls out of the tinfoil and he walks into the boy.

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01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:41.280
He runs into the living room, and I'm thinking he's

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going to come back and get the bone in a minute. No,

706
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.320
so I walk into the living room just to see

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01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:53.039
what he's up to. He's looking for the bone. It's

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01:00:56.639 --> 01:01:00.519
he's looking like, where is it, Where's it gone? It's

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01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:07.360
like a magic trick, And eventually it took him a

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01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.400
few minutes before he came out again and saw and

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01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:12.000
he run and got it. But it was just funny

712
01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:19.840
the fact that he was looking for it. Oh nice yesterday.

713
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.159
That sounds like quite a loud, quite a big plane

714
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:30.960
just going past the It was VD day yesterday and

715
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:35.840
there was loads of planes going past. Huge. How does

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01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:41.599
a plane that big travel so slowly? I can't get it.

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01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.119
How did it stay in the How does it stay

718
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.679
in the air traveling so slowly? You can see just

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01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:53.519
slowly going past huge thing weird. I just never understood

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01:01:53.519 --> 01:02:02.519
that urban pigeons have adapted to eat virtually anything. That's

721
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:08.679
a bit like, Okay, what it's that? I was gonna say, tis,

722
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:18.039
but Belgium is the center of professional pigeon racing. I'm

723
01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:21.440
not saying anything about that. At last we found something

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01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.320
interesting about Belgium. No, I wouldn't say that, that's what.

725
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:30.039
That's what Horace would say. He's just whining again, and

726
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:32.800
I'm like, okay, what he's looking for? The bone? It's

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01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:37.119
on the settee. I didn't put it on the sety,

728
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:43.719
so he must or did I? No, I'm pretty sure

729
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.400
I didn't, I wouldn't put it on the sety anyway.

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01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:54.159
I can't believe how much disturbisation he is giving me today.

731
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:58.760
Pigeons have better hearing than humans and can detect a

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01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:06.559
distant storm. How do they know they can remember hundreds

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01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:10.159
of images for several they can Okay, I can't even

734
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:13.239
how do they know this? They can remember hundreds of

735
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:20.199
images for several years? I mean, how do you test

736
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:31.199
that in pigeons? Pigeons were the first birds domesticated for food. Okay, wow,

737
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:38.679
the Romans used pigeons to deliver military messages. But we

738
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:40.760
kind of took advantage of pigeons a little bit, haven't

739
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:46.199
we humans over the years. Pigeon droppings are once used

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01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:55.960
to make gunpowder. Oh God, don't know what to make

741
01:03:56.000 --> 01:04:01.800
of that. I mean, they used it for gunpowder, just

742
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:07.840
didn't work, so they found something else. Napoleon had a

743
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:17.119
personal pigeon post network. Queen Elizabeth banned Queen Elizabeth the

744
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:22.199
first banded pigeon shootings on Sundays. That was nice of us,

745
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:27.679
gave them a day off. Pigeons are illgal to feed

746
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:33.920
in some cities like Venice. I'm pretty sure it's you're

747
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:39.360
not allowed to feed them in Leicester Square either not

748
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:48.679
Leicester Square, Leicester Square, not Leicester Square, Trafalgar Square, sorry,

749
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.519
Trafalgar Square. When I was a kid, he used to

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01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:55.480
be able to go to Trafraggar Square and literally have

751
01:04:56.039 --> 01:05:01.480
pigeons cover you, not I mean literally stay you, and

752
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:03.480
people from all over the world would come over and

753
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.440
get pictures taken. And I'm sure they didn't just come

754
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.760
over just to get pictures of pigeons, but it was

755
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:15.400
part of the experience. And then I think it might

756
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:18.920
have been the nineties or maybe the two thousands when

757
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:22.639
someone in the government said no more, We're not having

758
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:28.079
pigeons anymore. There was someone quite famous or well known

759
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.320
that used to feed the pigeons every day, and I

760
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:35.760
think he used to sell food to tourists to feed

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01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:44.880
the pigeons, and I'm pretty sure he got arrested. Pigeon

762
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:58.400
feeder arrested Trafalgar Square. This is my memory, the forgotten

763
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:06.119
pigeon food sellers of Trafalgar Since early two thousands, it's

764
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:10.719
officially been illegal to feed pigeons in Trafalgar Square see

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01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:20.280
little known law. I remembered it. Can you imagine getting

766
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:27.159
arrested for feeding a pigeon and then say, oh, also

767
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:31.119
you get these things where say, don't you get signs?

768
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:40.039
Don't feed ducks bread because it's bad for them. Tell

769
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:45.880
the ducks. They don't seem to care the signs right there.

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01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:48.280
I'm sure they're just as clever as pigeons. They can

771
01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:51.800
read it. Pigeons know twenty six letters. I don't know

772
01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:53.840
if they know all the other letters of the alphabet.

773
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:56.440
They know at least twenty six of them. Why don't

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01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:01.159
you just read the ducks tell them you're not supposed

775
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:05.039
to eat bread and it's bad for them. But which

776
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:08.880
is weird because I should go to the same duck

777
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:13.079
pond every week when I was a kid, from the

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01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:18.039
age of seven to seventeen, probably eighteen nineteen, every weekend,

779
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:31.360
go there, feed them bread and and nothing nothing happened.

780
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:39.920
There was no there was nothing nothing. Yeah, it was different,

781
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:44.480
different ducks every week, but it's still it was like eat,

782
01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:51.199
they're eating it. What was supposed to feed them Yorkshire puddings.

783
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.239
They eat them as well. I used to take a

784
01:07:56.239 --> 01:08:00.280
little pack, little bag of food from the table and

785
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:02.119
when there was no one looking, I'd chuck it in.

786
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:07.599
The thing is with Yorkshire put in they float and

787
01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:09.920
that was a bit weird. No one knew its me,

788
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:15.199
but I member my dad saying, why is there three

789
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:20.600
Yorkshire puddings floating in the pond? And everyone laughed and

790
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:23.079
I kind of thought, why they're laughing so it should

791
01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:25.439
be okay, but I won't. I'm not going to tell

792
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:33.399
them just in case. So I'm sure someone got arrested

793
01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:42.640
two thousands, two thousands, early two thousands. It was from

794
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:46.600
Kevin Livingston, who was the Mayor of London at the time,

795
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:49.840
to do with a plague which he called flying rats.

796
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:55.560
And ever since then people have just used that terminology

797
01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:59.359
like if they said it for the first time, or

798
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:07.159
flying like oh, everyone's like, I've never heard that before. Yeah, leave,

799
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:15.600
pigeons are cute and there's nothing wrong with rats. I'm

800
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:19.800
thinking of bats. No rats, Yeah, I'm not. Pigeons are

801
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.680
not flying rats. They're not nothing like rats. They're just

802
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:36.159
they're cute. I like pigeons. I'm sorry, I can't help out.

803
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:43.960
I just do I think I can't remember anyway, I'm

804
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:49.000
sure someone got arrested. There was there's the long pigeon feeders,

805
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:56.880
the forgotten pigeon food vendors or food sellers of Travagar

806
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.720
Square and the fight to feed the birds. This is

807
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:06.479
from a couple of years ago. They used to sell Yeah,

808
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:11.239
they used to sell food and feed and stuff. And

809
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:16.359
I should do that. I do, I did. I used

810
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:18.199
to know. It's just I didn't used to sell it.

811
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:26.199
But there's a picture here from Blimey nineteen seventy two,

812
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:30.439
a pigeon food kiosk in Trafalgar Square surrounded by pigeons

813
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:39.039
who wait for seeds. So it's lovely, don't you think

814
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:50.119
in a way kind of lovely? Kind of I don't know,

815
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:54.560
I think so. So let's have a look what I've

816
01:10:55.119 --> 01:11:01.119
we got here. Pigeons have been sent into space. In Iran,

817
01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:06.000
pigeons are seen as holy creatures. Cool, I love I

818
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:10.359
love pigeons. You can they can fly, They can fly

819
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:16.840
through lasers in lab experiments without confusion. And one of

820
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:24.319
the first people to study pigeons was Aristotle. They're being

821
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:30.920
used to smuggle things into prisons, so they're basically they've

822
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:33.439
been used to smuggle drugs and mobile phones into prisons.

823
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:42.239
So basically, pigeons are like flying bums, flying bumble. Pigeon

824
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:49.199
fanciers are known as pigeon men or pigeon keepers. Homing

825
01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:52.359
pigeons were a vital part of the French resistance, and

826
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:57.680
pigeons can suffer from obesity if overfed. Anything can count

827
01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:06.439
it really. Ancient Greeks believe pigeons carried souls to the afterlife. Oh.

828
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:12.920
Their digestive system processes food under four hours. That's interesting,

829
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:19.000
isn't it. Isn't it? I think so. I think it's

830
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:25.760
very interesting. Yes I do. So, that's me done, I

831
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:28.560
think for this one. So it's like to say thank

832
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:31.479
you very much for listening. It's been a bit of

833
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:36.800
a broken one because of the Vinsta. That's okay. So

834
01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:43.279
but hopefully mana should talk about something. So remember to

835
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:45.600
be kind to yourself because you do deserve to be

836
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:51.680
happy and be gentle with yourself. You deserve to feel safe.

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Lots of love. Bye,