June 9, 2025

(no music) Entrepreneur | Monday’s Boring Objects | LMBYTS #1369 | 9th June 2025

(no music) Entrepreneur | Monday’s Boring Objects | LMBYTS #1369 | 9th June 2025
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Hello, and welcome to Jasonnewland dot com. My name is

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Jason Newland, who please only listen when you can safety

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close your eyes. What else? M What do I normally say?

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Shall I say something? Oh? Itchy? Got itchy? Side? Hello? Pinny?

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So this is let be boy to sleep. Monday's boring objects?

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What could I talk about today? Well? You if you

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have you're not You're not prepared? No, I haven't. Why

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not you should be prepared? You are you not a professional? No?

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Caut yourself a professional? No? Why are you? Don I

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don't know. You should know what you're doing. No, I

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don't know what I'm doing. I'm just plodding along hoping

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that I don't fall in a hole. Basically, So Monday's boring,

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op jets. I'm going to talk about something that I've

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never talked about before. It's a part of my life

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that I don't think I've ever even mentioned, which may

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surprise you that i'd done over one thousand and three

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hundred recordings. And how could I have not mentioned? How

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can I be at least one thing that I've not

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mentioned because I've not exactly had an interest in life.

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So but there is one thing, and I was thinking

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about this earlier when I was on the toilet. I

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don't know what what I thought about it then, but

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there's selfie that I wanted to be. So I've got

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this is what the subject is going to be then,

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but I'll be talking about myself. But the subject is

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entre entrepreneurship. That's the subject. That's the boring subject for

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today's Monday's boring object. So entrepreneurship or entrepreneurs Right from

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an early, quite an early age, I wanted to be

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successful in some kind of business. Clearly it never happened,

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but I kind of I don't know what it was.

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Maybe it was the idea of working for myself. I

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saw my dad, he was self employed, so he had

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a successful business. And I used to like watching del

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Boy on Only Fools and Horses, the duck in and

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dive in and after daily ducking and diving. And I

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wasn't so big on the con aspect of that, you know,

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selling people cars that didn't have any breaks. That wasn't,

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you know, not really my style, but it made for

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a comedy show. So when I was in my I

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think my first delve into any kind of entrepreneurship, money

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making outside of working for someone else was probably when

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I was about thirteen, so yeah, I'm just trying to

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delve back to see probably thirteen. Yeah, so one of

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the things. So I started working, I think when I

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was twelve part time. I think twelve was the that

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was the minimum age to do a paper round. I

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think might have been eleven, but I think it was twelve,

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I think. And so, hmmm, I get a little bit

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modeled up because I had so many different paper rounds.

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I had a morning paper round, I hadn't eaten lot

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at different times, I had an evening paper round. I

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had a monthly delivering leaflets, and there was a fortnightly

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delivering these pamphlet things. I also worked in the bakery

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well as well as I also worked in the washing

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dishes in this restaurant, and then I worked in a

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bakery called a bakehouse they called it. So I started

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off working in the evenings just washing up, which is

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a cool job. Actually it was all right. So that

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was very busy, but it was okay, And I'd worked

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during the day, sometimes on a Saturday, and I think

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it was something like seventy five pence an hour, which

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may not seem a lot but when I was twenty

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one or twenty two, literally ten years later, I still

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was only getting about two pounds an hour, you know,

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so it was pretty you know, I was probably better

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off then than I was when I left school, so financially,

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I mean, but then I didn't have to pay rent

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or buy food, so I guess it was it was

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a little bit different. So forgetting the jobs I had,

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there was I don't know what it was, but I

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started to think, hmm, what can I do to earn

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some money. I don't know why I wanted to earn

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money because I knew I could do a paper around

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and I could I could get money. It wasn't a lot,

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but it was still you know, it was still okay.

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And I had multiple jobs going at the same time

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at times. Why I don't know why, but yeah, I

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just this this feeling, this need two do something too,

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I don't know, make something with myself kind of to

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be successful. It never happened, but you know, I kind

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of really was. I was going for it. So I'm

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not sure which order it happened. But I'll focus on

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what I did at school first, and then I'll talk

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about what I did outside of school when I was

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still at school, but what I did on the outside,

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and then I'll move into what I did once I

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left school. So this is how I worked this out

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in my brain. Okay, I categorized things, so I've broken

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it up into periods. So it's the period before I

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left school, those couple of years, three years or whatever

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before I left school. And then there's period when I

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was working at the chip shop and when I left

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the chip shop, So that's a little period on its own,

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can you hear that plane. Then there's another period, you know.

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So I've broken up into periods. So the period before

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leaving school is then broken up into different periods. There's

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the period, it's the things I did at school and

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the things I did outside of school, and then I

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break it in again into those things that at school,

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those things that I was getting money for, and those

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things that I was owed money for. So at school

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there was a few trends. One thing I realized is

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people kept running out of pens. So I bought a

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bunch of pens and I would sell them and I

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made a profit, but it was just it was never

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going to buy me my new jet, you know. So

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that was a little bit boring. I was walking around.

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I could walk to school with a whole satchel full

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of pens and come home and made like maybe fifty

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pence profit. It really wasn't worth it. And then but

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unfortunately the pens were rubbish as well, so that didn't

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really last. There was a reason they were so cheap.

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And then there was another trend. I mean, pens weren't

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a trend, but there was a couple of trends that

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I kind of jumped on. One was gobstoppers. Gob Stoppers

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became really, really really popular. And if you don't know

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what a gobstopper is is basically it just it's called

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a gob stopper because you can't talk when it's in

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your mouth. It's so big, and it's like a like

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a big ball at a Actually, when you suck the

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ball for long enough, it it's got like maybe different

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tastes and stuff and probably a little bit like what's

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his name, Willy Wonka. It wasn't they had a gob stopper,

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didn't they? That was different flavors of dinner and stuff. Anyway,

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in the end, in the middle of right in the

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middle of there'd be like chewing gum. But it would

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take ages to get through it, and the teachers would

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confiscate it. They'd make you spit it out if you

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had one in your mouth and they saw it, which

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made it more attractive to the pupils. You know. It

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was like a challenge to be able to get away

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with spending the whole lesson forty five minutes with that,

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you know, something in your mouth. But what happened is people,

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I think, what happened to you? Hear that? Hear that?

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I don't think you hear that in a garden. It

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I distracted me, all right. So what it was is

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I noticed that when when one kid had something, all

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the other kids seem to want it, mainly the boys,

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to be fair, But if one had it, others wanted it,

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but they couldn't have it because you know, they didn't

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sell gob stoppers. The teacher didn't have a supply to

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sell to us. I probably would have gone against education standards, possibly,

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But then I thought, hmmm, because I saw I had

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a friend who wanted who had one, and I said,

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can I have one? He said yeah, and he said

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it'd be a pound, And I think they cost like

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forty pence fifty pence to buy maybe twenty pence to buy,

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you know, so I was like okay, and I thought, hmmm,

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So what I did is I bought about ten of

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these and the sales technique was just to basically walk

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around sucking or be in a classroom break tom is

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good because people want stuff and it's easier to you know,

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exchange money and stuff during a break rather than at

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class time. So I made a few quid doing that.

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Another friend of mine was doing the same thing as well. Actually,

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so it wasn't I don't think it was really my

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It wasn't really my invention really. And then another thing

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happened where there was this trend where it was chucking

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coins at a wall. So let's say two people would

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chuck pound coins or fifty pence pieces against the wall

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and whichever one got closest to the wall would win

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the other person's money. That's the simplest way to explain it.

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Sometimes it yeah, it's exposed. It's a it's a similar

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to bowls, you know, where you've got to get the

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closest to the ball, to the white ball. You've got

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to get your bowls, so you'd kind of knock the

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other the other person's ball out the way. So it's

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a little bit like that. So you might bounce off

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the wall, but not the other person's coined further away

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from the wall. And people were losing. What it nearly

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was every time someone lost, but then they'd like go

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double or nothing, double or nothing. And so I saw

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that people were getting they wanted to get their money back.

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And this is something that was happening every single break time, lunchtime,

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break two breaks and lunchtime every day for quite a while.

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I think it got banned in the end. Yeah. Yeah,

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that and the Ouiji board that got banned, and the gangs.

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They banned. The gangs as well, went through a little

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phase of having gangs, the Wanderers, the Warriors, the Wongs,

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just because of the Wanderers movie. And I started my

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own gang called the Silver Eagles, because no one wanted

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me to be in their gang. So I started my

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own gang. But I had I had the It was

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kind of like a misfits gang. And yeah, I went

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a bit wrong. So everything got banned because I had

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people in my gang that were actually acting like a gang.

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They didn't I don't think they realized it was just

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for fun here. So it's so then what I did

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is I thought people are losing their minds because they

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haven't got enough money to try and win back. So

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I started lending money because I had I had a

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couple of part time jobs, so I had I always

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had some cash. So I started taking like ten twenty

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pounds to school with me. That's probably my life savings,

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to be fair. But I and I'd always like one

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pound coins, and I started to lend people money. And

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I had a little book and I kept track of

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everything i'd had interest added on. I don't remember what

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the interest was. It's a long time ago, and I

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didn't realize how hard it is to do to be

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a money lender. Really, it's not an easy job. And

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I always thought, you know, you see these I mean,

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it's many movies and TV shows and that I've seen,

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you know, how money lenders operate in later years, you know,

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I've sort of like how they can be quite quite naughty,

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you know, when it comes to getting their money back.

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But after doing it for a little while, I realized

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that people will make they will take the whatever you

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want to call it, as much as they can. They

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will avoid paying it sometimes outright they like say nope,

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you're not getting it back and it leaves. You know,

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once one person does that, then the whole thing's gone.

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Now this happened to me. Someone decided they weren't going

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to pay me back. So I collected and I got

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a friend to come and he collected it for me.

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And I disliked the whole situation so much. It wasn't

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like awful, but it was very much. Yeah, I stopped

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it before it got our hand, and then that's when

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I realized that life is not for me. You know,

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a little bit of a little taste of that. It's like, no,

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over like two pound fifty, you know what I mean.

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It's like, no, it's really silly because my friend was

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my friend was saying, we'll give the money. You need

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to own the money. It was in the toilet at school,

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and this kid was saying, no, you ain't getting nothing,

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and he did end up pain. But it just wasn't

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wasn't just wasn't for me. It wasn't for him, even

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my friend, because he's like, no, this isn't really what

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I want to be doing. So I think that was

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a good thing that it taught me that that sort

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of lifestyle was not for me. I'm a bit. I

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guess it's the word vanilla muld be a little bit,

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a little bit peaceful. I think just had a bit

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of an interruption. Then someone knocked on No, they didn't

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knock on the door. They knocked on the phone. They

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rang on the door. They rang me up. That's it,

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oh key, When I was I talking about what was

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I talking about? When earlier? But what was it? It

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was something hmmm, pens, gobs, stoppers, coins against the wall,

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money lending. I didn't go really to plan change of

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mind with that stuff, and I think that was the

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end of my entrepreneurial career at school. That was it

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for the school thing. Outside of school, I had three

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different businesses that I started. And by businesses, I mean

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I put postcards in the local shop window. That's what

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I mean by businesses. With my telephone number, my home

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telephone number. The first one. There was three different ones.

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There was one for car cleaning, there was one for

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wait a minute, what was a car cleaning? Dog walking?

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And there was another one for looking after kids, babysitting. Now,

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I used to babysit my little brother, so I kind

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of knew my way around being a babysitter. So I thought, oh,

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maybe I can do this, maybe make some money out

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of it, because I was getting nothing for looking after

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my little brother all through the summer and in the

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evenings and like between school to say, evenings between school

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and like six o'clock. I was looking after him, and yeah,

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I just it was quite easy, well, yeah, generally, so

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I thought maybe I could make some money out of that.

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I didn't get any I might have even put an

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advert in the local paper as well. I didn't do

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any leaflets. Didn't make any leaflets at this point. I

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don't think I did. Maybe I did, but I think

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it was mainly just and if I remember rightly, it

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was just one news agents that I put my postcard

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in the window. Maybe I did it in two I'm

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trying to think of the different places in town. There

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was definitely one place where I used to have my

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paper around anywhere else in town where was there another

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news agents? There was one down the seafront, and there

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was one on the way to my AND's house where

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I used to live when I was eight. Mm hm u.

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That's the only ones I can remember. As far as

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the news agents go in that town. There probably was others,

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but not like within where I would go, Oh, no,

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that whara? Is that a news agent's. Yeah, there was

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a news agent's, of course there was, which was not

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near where I was talking about it. It was near

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where my dad moved to and I lived with him

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for a little while. It was opposite the co op,

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and it was it was kind of weird because it

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was it was next to a launderette, and then next

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the laundret was a hairdressers, and oppositely that was the

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co op. So it was like there was three shops,

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well the laundret to three buildings with three commercial businesses.

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So if you was standing outside the co op that

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I worked in, looked across the road on the left

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hand side, was was it Wagate road? BlimE me, I

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don't know if that's us that's come into our mind.

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It might be the road. So there's this newsagent's quite

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a spacey shop actually, and then there was the laundrette,

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and then there was on the right hand side there

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was the women's. I think it was like a hairdresser's

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because in them days, you know, a little while ago,

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would quite often just be for females, barbers would be

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for men. But then some hairdressers would have different sections,

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one for men, one for women. Not it wasn't so

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much segregation. It's just unless it was because I went

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to a hairdressers that had a men's section and there

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was a women's section. It's yeah, for some reason, I

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got to get Yeah, I had my haircut and a

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women's section once because I had a PERM. I know

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it's at half perm. I was still at school, so

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I had a half perm because because I've got no idea,

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because I was fifteen, I guess fourteen fifteen seemed like

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a good idea. It was weird really because I also

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dyed my hair dark brown. They might think, what's weird

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about dying your hair dark brown and the having a

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half perm. This are two different, separate, different separate occasions. Well, firstly,

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my hair is already dark brown, so that was a

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bit pointless. And once my hair got past a certain length,

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it went curly. Anyway, I got naturally curly hair. I

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just I guess it has to get to a certain

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length before it goes curly curly. I'm talking about what

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when I used to have a full sexy head of hair. Yeah,

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the same hairdresses that I got my I think I

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did the coloring. I colored my hair from a box,

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you know, you know, from the soup. I don't know

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hair dye, I guess, so I did that myself, made

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a mess of it. I had a big Yeah. It

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was a bit weird in school that day, because it does.

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It doesn't just dye your hair. If you leave it,

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it dyees your skin temporarily at least, And so I

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was going to I was, honestly, I was like. The

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teacher said, you can't come to school with black face.

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I said, I'm not, you know, because in that in

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that day, it wasn't it was okay to do that,

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but it was crowned upon even then. But I said,

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I'm not. I wouldn't do that stuff. It's so we'll

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take it off. What you've got makeup on? I said,

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it's not, it's dye. I've literally it dripped down my face.

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I was told to sit with it for an hour

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or whatever to let it soak in. So I thought

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I'd do it for two hours because it would definitely

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be done, and then rinse it off and then but

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it didn't say anything about my face. And the teacher said,

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were you not aware that it was all down in

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your face. I said, yeah, but I didn't. I was

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focusing on my hair. He said, don't you ever wash

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your face? I said this, yeah, I have done. It

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is what do you mean you have done? Do you

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not wash your face every day? And I said where

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you asked? I don't ask you personal questions. I don't

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ask you whether or not you flush. That's what do

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you mean, whether or not I flush? I said, I

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don't ask you if you flush your toilet when you've

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done a pooh. I said, well, everyone does, But I

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said so, I don't know if that I have done,

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if you do. He said, you just saying this, Jason,

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to distract the listeners from the fact that you said

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blackface earlier. I said, no, it's a term that people use.

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It's not a term I use, but it's a term

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that's used for someone that like puts like brown paint

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on their face, and it's not acceptable anymore. It was

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in the eighties. He said, we're in the eighties. I said,

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I know, but just getting confusing. You're talking about my

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listeners in thirty forty years time. But we're now in

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nineteen eighty four and things are different now. He said, yeah,

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I know, and I said, but that's not what I

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was doing. It literally it stained my face. He said,

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are you sure so you can see it? Try wiping

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it off? He said, nah, I don't want to touch you.

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I said, is it because of the healthy guidelines and

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child protection? He said no, you just look dirty. You

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just smell bad, and I don't want to I don't

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you look like you might have fleas. I said, well,

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you can't say that to me. You're a teacher and

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he said, I'm not a teacher. I said, what do

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you mean you're a teacher. You're here at the oh

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he said, I'm the janitor. Why would a teacher be

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cleaning the toilets? I said, oh, I did wonder about that,

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which brings me to the next question. Why are you

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asking me if I flush? You literally see me flush

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every day when you see me. Why are you hanging

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around the toilets anyway? And I said, well, that's what

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I was thinking about you now I know you're a cleaner.

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He said, what's your excuse? I said, I don't have one,

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And I said to him, be honest with me, mister janitor,

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do you feel we've managed to move away from you

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know what I said earlier, And he said, no, I'm

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not sure if it Maybe everyone's forgotten. I said, I

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don't know, because it wasn't used in a derogatory word way.

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It was literally just used inn to someone thinking I

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was doing that when I wasn't doing that. I said, yeah,

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but it's the term. It's just not a nice term.

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I said, but I wasn't using that term. I don't

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use that term. But that's what the newspapers use. Well,

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that's what the news uses when a celebrity comes out

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and does something like that. I mean, you remember Ted

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Danson in the early nineties when he was dating Whoopi Goldberg.

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He painted He went to a fancy dress party and

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painted his face a different color and he got into

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a lot of a lot of trouble. Wow. The Jena said,

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how many people listening to this podcast do you think

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are going to actually remember that Whoopi Goldberg and Ted

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Danson used to date. That's a blast from the past.

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How do you remember things like that? Well, more importantly,

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why do you remember things like that? I said, it's

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always handy to get me out of trouble. I can

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use it as an example because of someone like Ted Danson,

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who was it was a legend. He is a legend,

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star of cheers, being in loads of movies, loads of

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TV shows. He is a legend, and he's still a

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legend now and he still makes good TV shows now,

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even though he's in his nineties or whatever. And at

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the time, he was dating Woodpee Goldberg, who was also

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arguably one of the most famous actresses in Hollywood at

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that time, huge star, and she didn't obviously didn't care

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that he was putting makeup on. He said, ah, the janet.

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He said, what do you think about Woody Goldberg? Now?

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Then I said, what do you mean? Well, she seems

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to come up with quite a lot of criticism ever

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since doing that view show. We actually have a TV

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show based on that in the UK called Angry Women,

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Not Angry Women, Moaning, not moaning Women, Wicked Women. I

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told it's got a name. It's been shut down anyway,

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speak they've took it off air. Moaning not moaning it was.

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I used to watch it was quite good. There's a

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few presenters on there that I really liked. Women Something Women,

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and it was kind of a copy of the view.

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I think the view was first, but it might not

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have been. But anyway that the Janet was say, or

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what do you think about Whoopie Goldberg? Now? I said, well, so,

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what you don't realize is I was a fan of

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Whoopi Goldberg before she was famous. He said, no, you

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wasn't You weren't a fan of it. I said, yes,

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I was. See Whoopi Goldberg did comedy before she was

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an actress, and she had a hit stage show on Broadway,

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which was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

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I wouldn't say I've seen them. I had it on

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video and I also had it on album as well.

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I still can't remember what it was called. But it

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was phenomenal. It was funny, it was insightful, intelligent, she

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did different characters. It's one as a one woman show,

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brilliant and I think she won Bafters or whatever. She

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wre loads of awards for it, and that's what That's

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what got her into I guess, into being on TV

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and being in movies because I was such a big

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stand up fan and I collected albums and comedy video.

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I need to start doing that again, don't I. I

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just start collecting having a comedy collection. I like collecting things.

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I like looking at them. So if I had a

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row of comedy DVDs all along the wall, I'd look

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at them and think, oh, look at them. They're all

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comedy DVDs. I collected them. I spent ten years collecting them.

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And it'd have to be specific and don't have to

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be all stand up, and it'd be in groups. So

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maybe I'll have Maybe that's why I categorize things memories

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in groups, because it's a very librarian kind of way

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to do things, which means maybe I should have been

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a librarian. That didn't you know. I used to work

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in this children's charity. And this is when I was

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a counselor at the charity as well, and I couldn't

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work there anymore because of that. It was just the

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working environment was not very nice, but I still stayed

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as a counselor. Part of my job when I was

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there for eight months I was there was to do

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admin pretty much, just to be on the reception. That

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was my job. There's more to it, I'll tell you

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one day. But it wasn't good. It was not good.

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But one of my roles was to alphab to organize

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is the files by alphabetic or order. Okay, So I

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left in two thousand and eleven August. I went back

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probably about twenty sixteen, maybe two thousand seventeen, maybe twenty eighteen,

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it was around that time. Was quite a few years

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later looking at maybe doing some voluntary work there, because

467
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I did volunteer work before, and I liked being a

468
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.519
voluntary volunteer. Just didn't like working for them, And because

469
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:41.280
if you volunteer, people can't. They might try, but they

470
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:45.000
can't be rude here, you know, they can't. They dislike

471
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.679
they have to. I say, they have to. But generally

472
00:39:51.119 --> 00:40:02.880
volunteers hold all the cards really, you know, so a manager, supervisor,

473
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:10.239
they got no choice but to really be gentle and respectful.

474
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.199
I'm not saying that's always the case, but you know,

475
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.679
in my experience that seemed to be the case, and

476
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.000
that's what it was when I was as a volunteer there.

477
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:26.559
As soon as I started working there, Wow, I was

478
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:34.639
treated very differently. It was dark opposite. It's amazing considering

479
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:39.840
it as a charity for children. So anyway, I thought, oh,

480
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.760
maybe I'll go and volunteer again. I was looking for

481
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:48.400
some vo volunteer places. Get me out, you know, just

482
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:55.039
to do something. And so I go into this building

483
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:59.000
just out of interest, like half hoping that the manager

484
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:04.440
would have gone moved on, got a different job, you

485
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.960
know that hopefully she wasn't there anymore. But she was there, unfortunately,

486
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:11.840
but it was worth a try. So I went in there.

487
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.679
I'm talking to a man I've never met before. He

488
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.639
was in charge of the volunteers, so he was saying,

489
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:26.719
or we might have some volunteer work. And then in

490
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.920
through the door comes not the manager, she did turn

491
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.760
up later on, but a lady that I used to

492
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.719
work with that was in the counseling office. I used

493
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.760
to go really well with her. She came in. She

494
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.239
was the one that would give me, tell me what

495
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:50.480
I needed to do with the client files and the

496
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:52.920
alphabetical stuff, you know, where to put it and stuff.

497
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.440
She came in telling me that I had completely ruined

498
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:02.800
everything and put everything into the files in wrong alphabet unalphabetically,

499
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.679
and all it was is by surname, so you know

500
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:13.239
it's and it's like and I said, what are you

501
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.039
talking about it? She says, yeah, yeah, you just messed

502
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.760
it all up. She'd made it a complete nightmare because

503
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.280
every seven years I think it was. They had to

504
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.320
go through all the files and get rid of anything

505
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.280
that was over seven years old. So they were going

506
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:32.000
they were now in that process again, having and I

507
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.800
was going through that process when I was working there,

508
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:37.880
so it was the next turn to do that. And

509
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.000
she was saying, you've made such a mess. Everything's in

510
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:48.639
the wrong order and under wrong alphabet and stuff. I said, well,

511
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.599
first of all, hi, how are you? Yeah, maybe say

512
00:42:52.599 --> 00:43:00.360
hello first? So they just moaning at me desperate women,

513
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:05.280
wicked women? What was it called? I can't remember? And

514
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.800
I said, are you sure that it was me and

515
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:14.280
not one of the many, many, many people that have

516
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:19.199
come and gone in the last seven years. I mean,

517
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:24.599
come on, how can you bear it in mind that

518
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.880
the files at the time, there's seven years worth of

519
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:35.519
files would have been put in there. Okay, how can

520
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.760
But I'm the one to blame for the whole thing.

521
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.400
It's like wow, And I was amazed. It's like really,

522
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:50.320
And the one thing I can do I can alphab

523
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:57.400
better to lize this is that makes sense. I know

524
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.800
I might have to do it in my head or

525
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.159
do it all my fingers to figure out what comes before,

526
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:07.119
but I know a comes first and know the z's

527
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:13.559
at the end somewhere and M and then oh, they're

528
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.639
kind of in the middle ish bqs. Do you know?

529
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.440
I might have to work it out, but I know

530
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:26.000
that the F is after B. Just things like that.

531
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.800
You know, I don't need a chart on the wall

532
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:32.960
for me to look at it, but I know the alphabet.

533
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:35.760
I can't do it backwards. There's a lot of things

534
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:41.159
I can't do backwards. I can't do a wee way backwards.

535
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.360
You know, why would I what would do? I can

536
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:50.440
walk backwards, but I will bang into things. Did you know?

537
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.519
I don't ever tell you the only time I ever

538
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.440
ever had a black eye in my whole life was

539
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:06.280
when I was walking home from school this kid. So

540
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:11.920
I'm like shouting at this kid and he's looking at me,

541
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.719
and he bangs into a lamp post because he's distracted

542
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.280
by me. And I'm laughing my head off and I

543
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:24.440
turn around and I bang into a limp post. Now,

544
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:28.599
back in them days, the lamp posts were concrete. They

545
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:30.840
weren't like metal like they are now. Not saying that

546
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:36.159
banging into a metal lamp post wouldn't be problematic, but

547
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.480
these were solid concrete lamposts and my eye just so

548
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:53.119
he's looking at me. Do you like that sound? I

549
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:57.920
was so proud of my black eye, my shiner. Really

550
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.280
really loved it. I don't know why it's called a shiner,

551
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.719
but I loved it. It's and it was like, really,

552
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:17.519
my whole eyebrow is like blulo, so proud, and I

553
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.199
was like walking around like I've just been in a

554
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.280
big fight, and I was a big man. I was

555
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:27.760
probably about twelve, thirteen or whatever at the time. It's

556
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:31.400
like yeah, but unfortunately my friend was just going around

557
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:36.039
telling everyone, Yeah, he walked into a lamp post. He'd

558
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:38.239
already told everyone before I got to school the next day.

559
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:45.719
So I'm walking around like the big I am, and

560
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:52.039
everyone already knew. So people were saying, what happened to you?

561
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.000
Are you okay? I said, oh, you should see the

562
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:59.039
other person, and I said that a few times. Eventually

563
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.719
someone said, what the post lemb post looked fine this morning,

564
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:08.880
still standing up? Ah, how do you know? Dean told

565
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:14.320
everyone really said yeah, we didn't tell everyone, but everyone

566
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:18.280
then just spread it around because he said that you

567
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:21.079
were going to brag about being in a fight and

568
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:27.280
how you beat up ten people, and you know why

569
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:32.960
you've got a black eye because one of them got lucky.

570
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:35.559
I said, Okay, I walked into a lamp post. What's

571
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:44.800
wrong with that? It's funny, but it's not hugely glamorous,

572
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:53.400
is it. Yeah, it's the only time never I've been bruised.

573
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.639
I've had bruises and stuff, but I've never actually had

574
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.960
a proper, full, proper shiner time in my life. I

575
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:06.320
ever got one of them. So yeah, I had my

576
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:12.599
hair dark brown half a perm. I never really understood

577
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:19.639
what half a perm was, but I was intrigued, very intrigued.

578
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:22.119
I didn't know if it was going to half my

579
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.119
hair was gonna be permed in our half would just

580
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:31.440
be left. See. I didn't realize when I was between

581
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:37.840
the ages of twenty and twenty four Summer twenty nineteen

582
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:41.840
ninety four, I grew my hair long. So I had

583
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:45.119
long hair all the way down to my middle of

584
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:51.119
my back for years. But because my hair is so curly,

585
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:57.320
it was almost impossible to manage. I'd have it in

586
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.960
a ponytail most of the time. I didn't know that

587
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.559
it was possible to straighten the hair. I could have

588
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.679
straightened it, it could have been lovely. I could have

589
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:14.119
still well, I wouldn't still have it because I imagine my

590
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.920
hair would have fallen out much quicker if I'd have

591
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.039
kept the ponytail, because it really pulls on the roots

592
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:24.800
then it So I did think about growing my hair long,

593
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.199
just for the for a laugh, really, just to see

594
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:36.239
what it would look like now being a bit mildly

595
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:49.559
slightly marginally bald, how it would work out. But I

596
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:52.280
just never got around to it because for some reason,

597
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:56.000
the longer my hair gets, the border I look, which

598
00:49:56.039 --> 00:50:00.360
is weird because the size get very curly. So what

599
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.519
very thick curly hair at the back at the sides,

600
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:13.239
not so much at the front. There's there's it's kind

601
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:19.159
of like looking down on a forest, you know, when

602
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.920
you look down the forest and it's like really thick forest.

603
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:26.599
Then you get an opening and on the on one

604
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:32.119
side there's the like bits of opening that's like the

605
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.800
front of my hair, and on the crown of my

606
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:39.760
head it's like a lake's that's just like an opening completely.

607
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.599
That's that's kind of what my the top of my

608
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:48.599
head looks like. Yeah, I don't know if that's a

609
00:50:48.599 --> 00:51:00.519
good visual. I did have my hair bleached in nineteen

610
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:09.039
eighty nineteen eighty eight, so I wanted to be like Bross.

611
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.960
So my hair bleached, both my ears pierced. I got

612
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.920
a lot of attention. I wanted a lot of attention,

613
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:19.719
and I was get in it, but not for women,

614
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:26.199
and I couldn't understand it. I was with my friend

615
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:29.679
and we were going into like I said, right, all

616
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.400
these men are chatting me up. What was going on?

617
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:35.159
And it turned out we was in a gay bar.

618
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.519
Didn't know. I didn't know there was a gay bar

619
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:42.559
in town. The reason I liked it in there because

620
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.639
it was friendly and it wasn't like a gay nightclub.

621
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.440
It was just a bar, but it was run by

622
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:55.119
a gay bloke, and the atmosphere in there was really nice,

623
00:51:55.599 --> 00:52:00.079
really nice. There was no arguments of no, no, it

624
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:03.519
was just really nice. So I'd go in there because

625
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.480
some people I knew went in there and just to

626
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.440
have a chat, and it was bright and it was lovely.

627
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.400
I didn't know it was a gay club or a

628
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:17.559
gay bar rather because back then it wasn't official in

629
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.079
a sense. It wasn't like an official gay bite. It

630
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:27.199
was just a bar run for I guess for his

631
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.599
people that he knew and for people to feel comfortable

632
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.599
going there. And that's one of the things about I

633
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:36.079
didn't know I was going to talk about gay bars,

634
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:40.000
but I've been lots of gay nightclubs over the years

635
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.239
when I was younger. The one thing, the two things

636
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.199
I noticed, one thing I liked, one thing I didn't like.

637
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:57.039
I liked the atmosphere. It's just such a good atmosphere.

638
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:01.400
Never ever seen trouble in a gay bar or gay club.

639
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.719
I'm not saying that it never happened, but I never

640
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:08.599
saw it. And you know in London, you go anywhere,

641
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.199
you know what I mean, there's there's usually something happens

642
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:18.239
during the night. Nothing nothing happened ever when I was out,

643
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.960
and they're probably all too busy checking me out. And

644
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:29.320
then the thing I didn't wasn't so impressed with. And

645
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.920
I don't know why this is. And I've been in

646
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:38.840
quite a few nightclubs during that period, every single gay

647
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.760
club or gay nightclub rather I went to, there's no

648
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:47.440
lights in the toilets. I couldn't figure it out, Like,

649
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:49.360
how am I supposed to know where? I remember saying,

650
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.800
how I'm supposed to know where everything is? And you

651
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:56.039
just follow the follow The follow the sounds follow the noises.

652
00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.840
So does anyone know where the cubicle is? Like, so

653
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:09.840
over here, okay, I'll lead you there, Like no, it's okay, No,

654
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:11.880
I don't need you to hold my hat. Oh you

655
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:18.280
got lovely hands. Okay, but it's yeah, I remember, yeah,

656
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:20.760
I remember got a girlfriend from a gay bar once.

657
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.960
It was brilliant because it's that old you can't you

658
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.840
can't pick up women in a gay bar. It is like, actually,

659
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.519
I think women were there the same reason I was there,

660
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:38.800
because it was a nice atmosphere. It was safe, unthreatening,

661
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:42.920
it was nice, just lovely place. So I used to

662
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:49.119
meet women, well, particularly met one particular female, and I'm

663
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:51.960
sure she was there for exactly the same reason. And

664
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.320
we got on and we ended up dating, and we

665
00:54:55.360 --> 00:55:02.679
had a lot in common, you know, just chilled out,

666
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.760
didn't really want all that the hassle. You know, it's

667
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:10.800
quite nice to just she didn't want to be somewhere

668
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:12.679
where she's going to be hit on all the time,

669
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.840
and I quite like being somewhere where I was being

670
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:20.840
hit on all the time, you know. And we ended

671
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:29.960
up going out and it's yeah, I remember, she was it.

672
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:35.119
We couldn't go out. We kind of we had the

673
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:39.880
first night together on that night, but we did arrange

674
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:43.159
to meetach other the next day, and she phoned me

675
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:48.039
up and said, oh, she couldn't meet me until later

676
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:51.039
on in the day because she had to get a

677
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.320
prostate exam. So I thought, okay, well we'll meet up

678
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.280
later on. And it was good. It was a nice

679
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:10.320
fromantic time. Yeah, yeah, so what other things I My

680
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:18.119
next delve into entrepreneurship was probably when I was at

681
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:23.559
the chip shop, because oh yeah, I did get a

682
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:32.000
couple of phone calls for the child minding service or

683
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:39.039
babysitting service, and they all said the same thing, your boy.

684
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:45.519
It's like, okay, weird question. I said, yeah, all right,

685
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:48.880
never mind by it. In the end, after a few

686
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:51.320
of these corps, I said, wait a minute, what's the problem.

687
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:55.639
I'm not leaving my kid with a boy. We figured

688
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:59.000
that you were if you're offering a babysitting service, that

689
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:02.480
you'd be female. I said, what difference does it make?

690
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.119
I said, I babysit my little brother all the time.

691
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:11.599
And ironically I didn't say this to the person because

692
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:14.360
I couldn't really predict the future to him, but I

693
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.880
would have said to him. What I'm going to say

694
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.519
to you is I had multiple people asked me to

695
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:25.960
babysit their kids as I got older, because you know,

696
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:32.280
when I was in a chip shop, there was one, two, three,

697
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:38.280
three different people asked me to babysit for them, and

698
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:40.719
they pay me. They give me five quid or whatever.

699
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:43.400
And it meant that they could go out for a meal,

700
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:46.920
they could go out and do something, and I just

701
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:50.239
turn up when they were already in bed. So I'd

702
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:54.599
just go watch TV, watch a big, big colored TV

703
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.599
and stuff. It was easy, just sitting there for a

704
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:01.639
few hours. I said come back and I go home,

705
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.880
or they give me a lift home if if I

706
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:11.519
you know, was if they weren't drunk. So I did

707
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:15.480
it a few times, and I did it again when

708
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:18.119
I worked in the co op. I looked after my

709
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:24.320
friend's kids used to babysit. I think that was it,

710
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:30.679
but no. I also I was actually a childminder for

711
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:35.440
probably about four months five months when I was eighteen,

712
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.519
actually lived in like a live in nanny. But all

713
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:42.880
my only job really was just to take her to school.

714
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:46.360
The rest of the time I'd just be I'd be

715
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:48.800
in the flat while she was in bed, so i'd

716
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:50.280
have to just make sure that she was safe, and

717
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:53.920
she'd be asleep anyway, and they'd be doing a night shift.

718
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:57.719
So I did that for a while, and then i'd

719
00:58:57.760 --> 00:58:59.719
take Yeah, I'd take her to school in the morning.

720
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:04.280
That's it, and that was it. I didn't I'm not sure.

721
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.360
Maybe no, I didn't pick her up from school. I

722
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:12.480
think the mother picked her up from school because she

723
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.400
was up by then, so she'd be in bed by seven,

724
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:19.280
and then she'd be up again, probably by two two

725
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:23.320
or three two. Probably the school was only around the corner.

726
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.760
But I couldn't really use that as a as a

727
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:35.800
defense when I was a kid saying to this person

728
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:38.239
on the phone, what difference does it make for my

729
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:43.239
boy or a girl? Just I didn't really get it,

730
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:46.079
to be honest, I didn't understand. I didn't see what

731
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:49.639
the difference would be. But yeah, I didn't get any

732
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:54.599
work anyway. And then when I was at the chip shop,

733
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:58.199
got it got a bit silly because I had literally

734
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.559
I was selling my furniture just so I could get by,

735
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:06.719
because my dad had all my furniture and storage from

736
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.800
my bedroom. So when I got that flat, he moved in.

737
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:14.880
You know, as far as the furniture goes, probably the TV.

738
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.159
I'm thinking about it. I probably did get the TV,

739
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:19.599
so it was in storage. I was wondering the other

740
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:23.719
day what happened to that TV. I got my bed,

741
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:43.920
I got my wardrobe and bed wardrobe. There probably wasn't

742
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:48.159
much more. Probably maybe a chair. That was about it. Really,

743
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:52.679
there wasn't like a lot of things. I didn't have,

744
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:57.880
like huge amounts of belongings. I wonder where everything went.

745
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:03.239
I must have had some stuff because it was in

746
01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:09.679
storage downstairs in the garage where at my step NaN's place.

747
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.239
I mean, all my weights and my punch bags and

748
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:22.239
all that stuff I sold before I even moved into

749
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:24.960
the flat of the chip shop. So I didn't have

750
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.199
any of that stuff anymore because I wasn't able to

751
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:28.880
use that. For what's the point demn it if I

752
01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:31.840
can't use it, Because at the time I didn't know

753
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:40.000
I was ever going to find anywhere else to live. Yeah,

754
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.239
So I got to the point where I was sleeping

755
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:47.599
on the floor on a mattress in the living room,

756
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:56.960
and I didn't really have any belongings. So I started

757
01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:00.760
to for what can I do? So I started to

758
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:04.519
be a bit of a wheeler dealer, and I knew

759
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:09.920
some people that had stuff to sell or stuff for

760
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:13.440
me to buy to sell, and sometimes they'd let me

761
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:16.800
have it and I'd pay them once I got the

762
01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:20.440
money from the person I was selling it to, which

763
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:22.039
is quite a good deal for me because I didn't

764
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.719
have any sort of cash to play with. So I

765
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:26.679
did that for a bit, sold a few little bits

766
01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:31.320
and bobs sold a fridge treeser. That's probably my biggest sell.

767
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:34.199
I think I made about forty five pounds for that,

768
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:39.280
which was pretty much double what I was getting a

769
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:43.000
week in my pocket, so that was quite a nice

770
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:48.880
bit of money. What else then I got what I

771
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:51.719
started doing. I met a jeweler who was one of

772
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:54.639
the customers, and he was telling me that there was

773
01:02:55.599 --> 01:03:00.360
money and jewelry, and I think he was kind of hired.

774
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:05.119
He had a jewelry store, retired and he'd been in

775
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:09.039
London or something, but he still kind of did a

776
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:13.119
little bit on the side, you know. So I talked

777
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:19.039
to him and I was like, oh, he sometimes he

778
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:21.199
showed me catalogs. I'll be sitting on his lap and

779
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:25.719
he showed me catalogs and bits of the jewelryes and

780
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.760
like said, well, you could the markup prices for that,

781
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:34.719
so you can you can spend one hundred pounds on

782
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.079
something to sell it for like maybe three point fifty

783
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:42.960
four hundred because the more something costs, the more valuable

784
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:47.039
it feels to the person buying it. But the markup

785
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:54.880
is really high, and thought all so I kind of

786
01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:04.559
looked into it, and again this man decide he said

787
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:09.840
he could sell me stuff, so he gave me a catalog. Again,

788
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.679
I would buy the stuff, I would sell it, and

789
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:16.960
then he would provide me with that and I would

790
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.280
get the money for him. So that's kind of I

791
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:24.559
would order from him and sell it to people. Now,

792
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:28.199
I sold a couple of rings, but they didn't really

793
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:33.400
go very far. It's only so much you can do

794
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:38.440
when you work in a chip shop. Because it was

795
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:47.079
quite hard for me to present myself as successful to

796
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:49.400
the people on the other side of the counter, the

797
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:57.119
customers successful enough to depart with their money for jewelry.

798
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:03.559
When I I stunk of fish and I was wearing

799
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:09.480
just dirty we're not dirty, with clothes that were just horrible,

800
01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:15.360
and I, yeah, I didn't, I didn't really I didn't

801
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:19.639
fit the part. I got a couple of sales, but

802
01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:23.880
you know, I didn't work great, but it was something,

803
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.519
so I kind of made a little bit of money.

804
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:33.159
My friend came around once with some a big black

805
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:43.519
bag full of cigarettes, and that was he. He had

806
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:46.079
a friend who had a friend and we were going

807
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:50.119
to sell them in the pubs. So I stored them.

808
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:52.639
This is before I moved into the flat, so this

809
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:56.480
is a long time ago, before I moved into the

810
01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:58.559
the flat above the chip shops, so this is like

811
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:10.480
forty wow, forty years ago. And so we're all ready

812
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:13.079
to go out that night and you know, go into

813
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.199
the pubs, and just so I couldn't even get served

814
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:17.480
in the pubs. I was what fifteen at the time.

815
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:21.199
So let's go around and sell these cigarettes to people.

816
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:24.159
And he came around. I thought, but all right, let's

817
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:27.119
get ready to go, and they said no, it's a problem.

818
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:32.840
I said what And he showed me the newspaper and what.

819
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:38.519
He didn't know where the cigarettes had come from. So

820
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:42.079
he sped the rest of the evening disposing of them,

821
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:48.199
because you know, it was dodgy. It's like, I can't

822
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:51.239
believe it. I really I didn't mind being a wheeler.

823
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:53.639
I was trying to be a wheeler dealer, but I

824
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:59.519
wasn't trying to be a criminal. I'm a criminal. So yeah,

825
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:03.639
that wasn't It wasn't great. I mean, ideally alder just

826
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:07.719
sort of. It wasn't one hundred percent sure it was

827
01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:10.079
from there, but it just seemed a little bit of

828
01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.960
a coincidence. No one sort of knew, well, no one

829
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:17.039
that did know would tell, which is probably the right

830
01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:24.320
thing anyway. But so we're walking around disposing of them

831
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:32.119
for hours, literally taking them out of packets and breaking

832
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:36.239
them up one by one. They must have been there

833
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:42.880
was a lot a lot as yeah, a lot, a

834
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:46.760
lot of money's worth actually, in today's money, that would

835
01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:55.599
be worth probably a couple of thousand pounds worth of

836
01:07:55.599 --> 01:08:00.360
cigarettes now, because it was about twenty pounds a packets now,

837
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:05.559
so yeah, at least one hundred packs, probably maybe even

838
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:12.119
more than that. So yeah, it's after that I didn't

839
01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:16.439
I thought, no, I don't think I'm gonna I'm not

840
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:19.439
going to sell contraband, not contraband, but I just the

841
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:23.560
idea of I didn't want to sell stolen goods. I

842
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:25.239
mean it might not have been, but I didn't want

843
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.159
to do that anyway, because I was in such a

844
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:31.079
small town. You couldn't get away with it. And I

845
01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:34.079
when I moved to London, I was buying stuff all

846
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:40.159
the time that was snide or dodgy, stuff that had

847
01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:43.479
come in on the boats. I don't mean I wasn't

848
01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:50.159
buying immigrants. I wasn't buying illegals. No, there was like

849
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:56.359
tapes that were what do you call them, like copies

850
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:02.840
of stuff snids. I suppose that's what they call I

851
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:05.720
forget what they call them. But yeah, so that was

852
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:10.000
the end of that criminal empire, just wasn't for me.

853
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:18.880
And then I traveled to London to the main place

854
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:23.159
where they sell jewelry. And this is probably a little

855
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:26.760
bit later, probably, Yeah, that was a couple of years later,

856
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:31.840
probably about nineteen eighty nine. I went to London and

857
01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:35.920
I bought I probably spent about one hundred pounds on jewelry,

858
01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:42.600
brought it back trying to sell it, and I was

859
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.520
even walking through the train trying to sell it to

860
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:50.319
people on the train. What was going on in my mind?

861
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:54.439
I didn't sell anything, but I don't know where I

862
01:09:54.600 --> 01:10:02.840
got the the confidence, should we say, maybe stupidity but

863
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:05.840
confidence where did I get that from? To be able

864
01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:08.279
to walk up to complete strangers on a train that

865
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:12.960
were sitting there and try and sell them jewelry out

866
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:16.880
of a carrier back It didn't even know No, I

867
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:20.359
don't think they even had boxes, which was a bit silly.

868
01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:26.680
Like Yeah, in the end, I'm not sure. I think

869
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:31.319
I did sell some, but I think I didn't sell many.

870
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:36.760
I did sell some, not on the train, but afterwards

871
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:42.960
I might have given a few away. But another thing

872
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:48.079
I did is I bought the Exchange and Mart, which

873
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:53.680
was a magazine and very famous for it was very famous.

874
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:56.800
I'm not sure if it's still around. It might be

875
01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:01.680
a website now, but people used to sell their cars

876
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:06.199
on there, buy and selling cars. They also had buying

877
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.840
and selling number plates was a very that was a

878
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:14.720
very kind of specialized thing. But there's also a business

879
01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:23.800
section where you could phone up or send off for

880
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:28.199
a business kit absolutely free, and it'd be a like

881
01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:31.039
free business idea and you go along and they just

882
01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.520
send it to you in the post and you'd give

883
01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:35.520
it go and see if you could, you know, make

884
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:40.880
money from it. And I did that for every single

885
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:46.479
business opportunity there was, and I remember I came downstairs

886
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:52.720
one morning and I had about forty five It was

887
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:56.399
a brilliant day. I had about forty five packages or

888
01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:02.720
envelopes with stuff in with all these different things. It's different,

889
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:04.880
you know, because I was just giving stuff away free,

890
01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:08.800
trying to get people to sell it, samples and stuff.

891
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:14.199
It was so good. There was financial plans. There was

892
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:20.439
even money lending, which perhaps wasn't a good thing to

893
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:26.239
me get to get involved in again. But the one

894
01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:30.000
thing I did take up, I did sort of delve

895
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.319
into the jewelry, try to start business as a jeweler,

896
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:39.760
kind of in person. I had this idea that i'd

897
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:44.520
be I'd call myself mister Gold, and I'd travel. I'd

898
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:49.199
go around the pubs and I'd wear lots of jewelry

899
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:54.000
and a suit, and everyone would come to me for

900
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:58.279
their jewelry requirements and I'd just be known in the

901
01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:01.479
local town. And that would be if someone got engaged,

902
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:06.720
they'd come to me because I would get them a

903
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:11.760
reduced rate than what they would get in jewelers, but

904
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:18.439
it would still be the same quality. Didn't quite work out,

905
01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:24.399
that was the plan, and so I had leaflets made up,

906
01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:29.600
and you know, all this stuff done, and yeah I

907
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:38.560
had necklaces and yeah, it didn't quite work. The next

908
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:43.359
thing I tried was perfume. Now this company, I still

909
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:45.680
feel a little bit giddy thinking about it because it

910
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:51.359
was exciting. They sent me a whole pack of perfumes,

911
01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:57.079
a big sample pack, like big, you know, we would

912
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.279
go through the letterbox. I mean, it might argue because

913
01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:02.680
it wouldn't go through the letbox doesn't mean it doesn't

914
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:06.239
mean it's like big, but it was big. It was

915
01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:13.880
kind of like souit I don't know, not suitcase size,

916
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:18.920
but briefcase size, maybe maybe a bit smaller than briefcase.

917
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:28.600
And the samples were nice, really nice, and they'd be

918
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:33.760
it was so I felt professional. So what I did

919
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:38.439
I started going around to people I knew, and it'd

920
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:42.960
be almost like an Ann Summer's party, but with perfume,

921
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:54.319
but without any laughter or people. So I guess there's

922
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:58.600
nothing like an n Summer's party. But I knew a

923
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:01.359
few people, a few females, and I just like, try

924
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:05.640
that because back in them days, perfume, you know, it's

925
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:12.199
not things were different. There wasn't a lot of is

926
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:16.239
it cologne that men wear, which is basically just perfume,

927
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.279
isn't it so that there wasn't a lot of really

928
01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:25.239
kind of men perfume like there is now. Not that

929
01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:32.079
I don't wear cologne. I just like and I like

930
01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:38.079
an old fashioned bio. I think that's perfect. Oh hm,

931
01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:41.119
I thought you were coming and could smell you from

932
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:45.720
a block off, block off, block away, block away, a

933
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:55.159
mile away, so I don't have bo It's weird though,

934
01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:58.119
because I've known a few people like really really bad

935
01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:03.920
bo in it. And I was sitting there. I was

936
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:07.039
in there, working in the place, and the person's I

937
01:16:07.119 --> 01:16:11.239
wasn't far from their armpit. It just the working environment

938
01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:16.039
meant that perhaps I need to explain that, but you know,

939
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:22.760
I could smell them. And I was also near the microwave,

940
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:29.920
and the microwave was heating up a pie. And it

941
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:31.760
was weird because I was kind of getting a little

942
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:37.039
bit of a similar smell from both his armpit and

943
01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:41.239
the microwave, and they were almost like they were mixing together,

944
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:47.640
really like having a little dance in the air. The

945
01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:52.760
two smells were. And if it's symbiotic whatever, like a

946
01:16:52.880 --> 01:17:00.840
little symbiotic bouncing on a symbiotic trampoline. I don't know,

947
01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:10.560
but I was like, oh, that's weird. And then I

948
01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:18.079
started to think, is the pie is smelling like his

949
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:23.159
armpits or is the armpits smelling like that pie. Now

950
01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:25.039
I didn't know what kind of pie it was because

951
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:32.399
I wasn't the one heating the pie up, so and

952
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:38.760
the pies all had different bottoms of like tinfoil. Obviously

953
01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:41.760
don't put the tinfold in a microwave, but they all

954
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:49.399
had different So I'm standing there thinking what was I

955
01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:52.359
sitting down? Sometimes I sit down when I want to

956
01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:56.680
enjoy a smell and try and figure out what the substances,

957
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.520
especially if there's two different smells. Sometimes I to rest

958
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:07.560
my legs. On this occasion, I think I was just standing. Yeah,

959
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:09.840
because he was very tall. That's why I was able

960
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:11.880
to get to the arm not get to the arm pits.

961
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:13.640
But that's why the arm pits are a little bit

962
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.319
closer to me. And I didn't actually have my nose

963
01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:20.800
in his armpit. That would have been inappropriate to do

964
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:24.319
that when there was customers around. But the microwave was

965
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:26.840
also to the right at me. He was to left

966
01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:32.880
of me because we was in a like a food environment.

967
01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:40.159
I thought I wonder what kind of pie it is? Then?

968
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:47.239
Is it a chicken pie? Is it a vegetable pie?

969
01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:50.039
I don't know why I'm squeaking when I say the

970
01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:57.399
word pie pie. But they had different metal covers, like

971
01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:03.399
or not covers but holders. So the chicken ones were yellow,

972
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:12.039
the I think the steak ones were oblong with purple

973
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:22.640
bombs purple aluminium or aluminium aluminium is the correct way

974
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:26.119
to say that. But the bottom of the one with

975
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:31.000
silver aluminium, which meant it was a beef and onion pie.

976
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:41.920
And I thought to myself, beef and onion, beef an onion.

977
01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:46.279
But I didn't realize I was saying it out loud.

978
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:50.000
The customers will looking at me a bit weird. The

979
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.439
person I was working with was like, we're talking about

980
01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:55.920
but then when the customer shouted out, now he's talking

981
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.239
about my pie. It's in a microwave. It sounds, it

982
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:02.720
smells like it's ready, and hasn't. It hasn't pinged yet,

983
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.840
but not that I'm time in it. But I reckon

984
01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:09.039
it's probably ready because I can smell it. I said,

985
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:11.119
are you sure, though, is it sure? That's what you

986
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:13.760
can smell? And he said, what else? Could I be

987
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:17.279
able to smell other than the beef and anion pie?

988
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:21.159
And I said maybe? And I thought, no, I can't

989
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:24.399
just say his armpits, can I, because that would be

990
01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:27.520
I don't know. I don't think it would go down

991
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:31.119
too well. I guess that's something you need to discuss

992
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:35.359
with the person first, isn't it. It's like it could

993
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:40.800
be an awkward conversation. So you're right, Tony, Yeah, you're right.

994
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:45.199
Before we start our shift today tonight, I was just

995
01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:49.600
wondering if I can ask you something? Yeah, what is it? Well?

996
01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:55.520
I just want to know just in case I have

997
01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:02.920
to heat up a beef and pie in a microwave

998
01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:09.720
and a customer asks, is there a beef and onion

999
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:15.600
pie being heated up? Or maybe I haven't heated a

1000
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:19.640
beef nunion pie up? And if the custom asks, is

1001
01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:22.399
a beef and onion pie being heated up? And if

1002
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:24.760
there isn't a beef and onion pie being heated up?

1003
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:27.239
Is it okay? If I tell them that it's your

1004
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:32.920
armpits that they're smelling. It's weird to sort of bring

1005
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:36.319
that into a conversation, isn't it, Especially when you've been

1006
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:45.760
talking about Star trek. So I was thinking they overlap.

1007
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:51.600
There's an overlapping smell. He intrigued me. I didn't realize,

1008
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:57.119
but it seems to still be intriguing me for a

1009
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:02.920
weird way. For some reason, my phone keeps turning off.

1010
01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:11.960
I don't trust that phone. And then I started thinking

1011
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:20.800
beef an onion pie, body odor? What they've both got

1012
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:25.279
in common other than the smell bo beef an onion

1013
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:31.640
bo body odor bo? So I started thinking, is that

1014
01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:35.760
why they call beef and onion pies beef and onion

1015
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:39.239
pies because they smell like bo? Then I thought, no,

1016
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:42.000
that doesn't make sense. Maybe that's why they call bo

1017
01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:47.640
bo because it smells like a beef and onion pie. Again,

1018
01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:52.760
I thought perhaps I should ask him, but that didn't

1019
01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:56.600
seem like how when is a good time? I suppose

1020
01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.239
directly after asking if it's okay to point at his

1021
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:02.880
armpits if a customer thinks they're smelling a beef longion

1022
01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:05.800
pie being heated up, that would be probably the ideal

1023
01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:19.880
entry into that part of the conversation. Yeah, so I

1024
01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:26.039
delved in jewelry and so that was okay. The perfume,

1025
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:31.600
that's it, perfume. I did sell a little bit of perfume,

1026
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.840
not a lot, A little bit, but not a lot,

1027
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:39.600
and I just thought, oh, so that didn't really work.

1028
01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:47.199
But I loved the whole planning, not the doing, but

1029
01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:52.000
the dreaming. Not the doing, but the thinking about it.

1030
01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:58.840
The idea of being an entrepreneur. It really appealed to me,

1031
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:04.079
and getting all these new things through the post about,

1032
01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:09.760
you know, how to sell registration numbers and all things

1033
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:20.000
like that, but ultimately never really made any money. I

1034
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:22.039
was probably at a loss with the amount of money

1035
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.640
I paid out over the years with that, you know,

1036
01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:27.680
not that I paid out a lot, but I didn't

1037
01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:40.520
have a lot come in either. So that's my entrepreneurial period.

1038
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:43.359
I think it kind of came to an end by

1039
01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:48.439
the time I was by the time I was nineteen

1040
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:52.239
and kind of kind of given up on that. I

1041
01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:55.760
just didn't really pursue it anymore. But for good like

1042
01:24:55.960 --> 01:25:00.039
five years was that fourteen, fifteen, six or seven? In

1043
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:06.319
eighteen nineteen, maybe six years I was really pursuing options,

1044
01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:12.600
looking at ways to maybe make some money as an entrepreneur.

1045
01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:18.760
I also tried this one. I think I was eighteen.

1046
01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:24.560
I was going to sell water filters as a self

1047
01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:29.399
employed basis, but that didn't really work because I didn't

1048
01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:33.079
have a car, and to carry around water filters is

1049
01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:37.479
just yeah, it was a big old suitcase. And I thought, oh,

1050
01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:41.520
so that didn't work. Plus I think they wanted money

1051
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.840
from me. They wanted me to put down a deposit

1052
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:50.159
on or to pay for the first water filter that

1053
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:52.640
I was going to use as a demonstration, because they

1054
01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:54.800
wouldn't be able to use it again, they wouldn't be

1055
01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:57.560
able to sell it on. So I think they wanted

1056
01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:03.960
me to pay them that and I said okay, and

1057
01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:06.039
then I didn't speak to him again. I just like left.

1058
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:10.600
It's like and it probably wasn't a lot of money,

1059
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:16.680
but probably well more than I had. Anyway, perhaps that

1060
01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:22.840
was their stick is that was their way of selling

1061
01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:28.520
water if it was by employing people on a self

1062
01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:34.960
employed basis, which didn't cost him anything, and then they'd

1063
01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:38.840
sell a water filler to them. I wonder how many

1064
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.439
interviews he did a week, how many jobs he gave

1065
01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:50.279
away a week? Ah, So that was pretty much the

1066
01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:58.760
That was that period. There was I think what I

1067
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:00.600
would have liked to die. Oh yeah, I did become

1068
01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:04.079
a window cleaner, and it's not so much. I mean,

1069
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:10.279
it's it's entrepreneurial, isn't it. It's self employed. I became

1070
01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:14.800
a window cleaner and I cleaned one window I think

1071
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:18.760
it was my landlord's, my landlady's windows. And then I

1072
01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:23.319
left the ladder and all my equipment in her garage.

1073
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:29.119
Then I moved to Spain, decided to move to Spain.

1074
01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:33.600
Came back the same day after going to Spain for

1075
01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:37.079
the afternoon, and she evicted me, and she wouldn't give

1076
01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:42.760
me the I wouldn't give me the ladder back. M

1077
01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:54.960
So that's that's the end of Monday's boring objects talking

1078
01:27:54.960 --> 01:28:04.800
about being an entrepreneur or entrepreneurial ship being an entrepreneur,

1079
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:06.399
I don't know what I'm going to call it. I

1080
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:09.600
can't even spell the word. I literally can't say it either,

1081
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:13.479
can I. So I will see see how this all

1082
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:18.960
comes out. But that's it for me. So thank you

1083
01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:23.319
for listening. Remember to be kind to yourself because you

1084
01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:26.239
do deserve to be happy, and be gentle of yourself

1085
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:35.960
because you deserve to feel safe. Lots of love, Bye,