June 15, 2025

(music) Sunday ChitChat | LMBYTS #1375 | 15th June 2025

(music) Sunday ChitChat | LMBYTS #1375 | 15th June 2025
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Hello, and welcome to Vinnie and me. This is let

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me boy you to sleep. Vinn he's just he was

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in bed with both having a little lie down. I

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got up and came in here, and now Vinnie's got

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up and he's just pushed the door open and come

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in and staring at me. For some reason, we're staring

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at me for Vidy, for for vidy. Uh Oh. I

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had a little nap. I've been tired all day because

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I got up at half past one this morning to

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watch the boxing, and that went on till about four,

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maybe half past four, and then maybe five in fact.

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Then I went back to bed and I haven't really

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I haven't really got my sleep back as it were. Really. Yeah,

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it's been a bit, a little bit tired, but I'm

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better now, that's better. I'll stopped. Ordered good, I'll stop

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in a minute. Don't worry what door yawns will completed

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at some point. So this is let me buy you

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to sleep. Please only listen when you can safely close

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your eyes. And today is Sunday, the fifteenth of June

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to dads and a twenty five. I haven't really necessly

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particularly accomplished much today. I'm just trying to think, what

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have I done a shower and did a bit of

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work on the website, a little bit of work on

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the podcasts, or did a new thing. A new thing

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I put together all of the last seven days let

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me buoy to Sleep podcast episodes into just one recording.

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So I've done that today. And the problem with that

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is I had to put the whisper Wednesday last because

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I couldn't really have the whisper Wednesday and then going

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back to talking at a kind of normal volume, it's yeah,

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it's just and work. So I had to I put

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that at the end of the recording. And so yeah,

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I'm thinking of maybe doing that again next week. So

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basically it's Sunday to Saturday, and I do it on

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a Sunday, so it's those seven days. I Openny. Then

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he's hearing some summer in the garden and he's very interested. Wow,

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I'm such a yawning head. I remember I got a

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message years ago someone saying I don't like it when

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you yawn. Wow, just I don't like it when you Well, nobody,

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and I do mean nobody on the planet can tell

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me off for yawning. I don't know if I yawn,

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I yawn, I would you. I don't like him New York.

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Who cares. I don't care if you like it or not.

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I'm not yawning to make people feel wonderful or to

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make people feel anything. Just yawning because I'm yawning. There's

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no hello. Oh yawn it because I'm tired, and I'm

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yawning because I'm thinking about yawning. And I'm probably yawning

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because I'm trying not to yawn, which is CAUs is

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in me to yawn even more. Yes, mm hmmm, sniffy, sniff.

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I was wondering if I've got a little bit of

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I get a little bit of a hay fever these days,

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because I've had a few a few days, a few times,

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maybe not the whole day, but where I just seemed

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to come down with a cold. But then then it's gone,

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I'm sniffling, coughing, sneezing, and then me, you know nothing,

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So I don't maybe that maybe maybe I am a

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little bit affected by the pollen. Perhaps I did live

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in the countryside, so there's no getting away from it. Really,

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it's this is this non it's non stop pollen. I

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imagine around here but yeah, no it's not. It's not debilitating,

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so I don't it's not gonna bother me. This is weird.

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I just get a little bit, a bit sniffily, tho,

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I'm not a sniff keep sniffing because that's grim. I

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remember when I was in the call center. I think

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it was the last call center I rugged in. I

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had this bloke on the phone and he was sniffingly.

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I think, I like full on cold. It almost sounds

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like the phone was up his nose. Seriously, I could

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at the end of the phone up his nose and

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all I could to hear, and it was just I

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enjoyed that phone call. You can't shout through the phone.

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Can you please blow your nose before we continue? I

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mean you could include that in the ripped, but probably

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gets sacked. You know, the script that you say at

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the beginning, all course that recorded. I remember when I

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did that. I first because I worked at Churchill September

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two thousand and one. I think it was the the ninth.

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I'm not sure. I don't have my calendar, but anyway,

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it's the Monday and whatever the Monday was that week,

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and it was pretty easy. I didn't realize how easy

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it was until it started getting more difficult because we

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just asked the questions and how was it. And then

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about six months seven months in, they walked around and

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handed us a script and they said, you're going to

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have to read or team leader said, you have to

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read this out to the customer right at the beginning

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of the call, before proceeding with a car quotation. I

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have to read the whole thing out. It was just

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one page, but it was a good thirty seconds of talking,

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and it was laminated, I think, so membized twiddle with

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it and flick it around so it turned around in

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my hand. I thought it might impress some of the girls.

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Oh was I So? I was nine at the time,

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you see. I remember looking at and thinking when the

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team they said, oh, you have to read this big

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long script out before and then it gave us another script.

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You have to read this out and before taking payment,

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and you also have to read this script out before.

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You know, before the end of the call. I was

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really talking about Willis, and my team leader took me

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aside and said, stop calling me Willis. He didn't know

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what a reference was from because he was about I

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think he was about eleven my team leader. I was

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what thirty one, so he was a little bit younger

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than me. What are you talking about? Willis? He didn't

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he didn't get the reference. A lot of people won't

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get the reference. And it doesn't matter because all it

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does is make me look really old. It's really old.

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He was referencing something from the late seventies. Wow, I

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put it full different person. Sounds similar when I do it,

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but I put it a fall. There's the other one.

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I can't, but oh I love it where I love

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it when I'm playing calms together. That was him smoking

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a cigar. Yeah, the eighteen that was such a huge show.

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It's weird. I mean, are there any big TV shows

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now on television? I don't mean popular, but are there

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any shows which are just caught the imagination of the

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population of the Western world in a sense of action,

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figures and books, comics, Easter eggs with pictures of it on?

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You know. The toy the toy the main toy for

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Christmas that year is this thing? I mean, I don't know.

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I suppose pepper Pig. That's one thing that was pretty

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huge on it. SpongeBob sponge Pants was a big character

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wasn't he Simpsons. But we're going back like quite a

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few years. I remember the Simpsons, right, I remember watching it.

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And then after a few years of watching it, it

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became for some reason, it became really popular. It's almost

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like it was around for a while and then the

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newspapers noticed it and it was put on. You know,

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the newspapers thought it was for kids, and it's not

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a kids show at all, never was a kids show.

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And it's an adult show. It's adult humor. Yeah, it

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was put on in this country like six o'clock in

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the afternoon, and the press were all focusing on Bart

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Simpson and eat my shorts and all this stuff, and

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as it was plasted everywhere when Bart Simpson is not

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the star of the show, his dad is. And it's

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just really strange the way they interpreted it. I mean,

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it's e's A's star, but he's not the star. Homer is.

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He is the king of that show, and Marge is

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the queen. But it's about It's about Homer Simpson, isn't it.

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Do you know anyone now that says, oh, oh, oh

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like that, they still do that? Do you know when

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I still does that? I asted to know people that

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did that, and they do it, and they did it

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for decades, and I didn't know why. I knew why.

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I knew it was, you know, because Homers Simpson goes, oh,

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don't I know, dog, isn't it dope, don't whatever? And

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but I didn't kind of understand why humans were doing it.

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Dont does anyone know anyone who does that? Because I've

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known people quite some of the other days said they

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said lowell to me. Now, I really like this person,

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so I'm not going to say anything bad. I just

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the other another person said it to me years ago.

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I liked like that person as well, So I just

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found it, like what loll not. They didn't laugh, they

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just went low. I was like, Okay, I can't keep up.

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I can't keep up. I tell you what's needed us

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squeakies in the garden. I'll tell you what's needed. Is

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I think the old people, the old ones, the old ones,

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need to start doing their own language, put together their

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own sayings, their own little coded chat. Yeah, just to

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confuse the the youngins. Oh, we just can continue to

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confuse the young uns by talking how we've always talked.

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It's just sometimes it feels like a different language, a

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different language. I'm sounding ancient and I like a like

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a dusty old It's got to say dummy, but not dummy,

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not model dummy. Is it a dummy, the dummy the

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other thing wrapped up in in bandages. Mummy, not dummy, mummy,

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it's mummy, you dummy, mummy? What would you call it? Mummy? Oh,

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by the way, happy Father's Day if you if you

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celebrate such a thing in the in UK, England, Britain,

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we have Mother's Day and Father's Day, but some other

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countries also celebrate it, having on a different date. So

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Mother's Day was ages ago and Father's Day in the

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UK is today. So yeah, happy fat as, happy fart

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as they wherever you may bee. Yeah. I never received

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a fart as Day card. Never. Never, I've been a

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farther if I father, father, Sorry, father, I wonder what

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that's like to actually be a parent. I guess I'm

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never gonna know him. I but just imagine. I know

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a lot of people listen to this are parents and

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they know exactly what it's like. But I don't. I

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really don't. I can't. I can't really get my head

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around it. It's a little bit like what's it like

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to be a goldfish. I don't know goldfish, No, But

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I don't know what's it like to be six foot seven.

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I'm never going to know what it feels like to

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be six foot seven. I mean, even if I wore

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stilts to make myself a that height, you know, there's

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limits to what I can do. I can't like to

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spend my whole life with those stilts on. Supermarkets, for example,

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they have an issue with stilts. I've never understood that

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they try and go into says because of tesco is

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in this country, which is a grocery supermarket. Oh can

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you please take the stilts, officer, But they don't stop anyone.

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It's actually naturally six foot seven. They don't check them

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for stilts. Check me. That's a thing, right, If you're

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gonna wear stilts, don't wear shorts. That's the problem. You

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need to get extra long trousers so it looks and

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you need to sort of get some kind of so

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it looks like you've got feet to the stilts on,

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because otherwise it don't work. It was just like wooden pegs,

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because I'm sure you can get stilts to armwood, but

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I'm sticking to the old fashioned stilts. I used to

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have stilts when I was a kid. We used to

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make stilts. It used to be fun. I don't think

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I've ever been on a professional stilt. Is it such

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a thing as a professional stilt? And a pogo stick?

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Wouldn't that be quite a good way to actually travel.

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It'd be a much faster way, wouldn't it, and potentially

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more fun. You're like a really good pogo stick, one

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that I'm not saying one that bounces really high, but

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bounces that are maybe mechanical bounce, you know, so you

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don't have to do anything. You just land and it

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just pushes you up and at a height that it

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wouldn't matter if you felt you could be fine. So

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maybe a height of two feet or three feet, so

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you're always going to be you know. Health and safety

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is important. That's why I went where I wear and

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no I said that last time. So still, I started

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listening to some of my old recordings. I can't believe

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some of the things I say. Wow, honestly, some of

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the things that slip out of my bum now my

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mouth is ridiculous. It's just so silly. And the other

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day he might not heard it. I was talking about

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the different pronunciations in America and England. So there's like

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David Bowie. I mean, I know he's not American, but

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it was like, is it Bowie? Is a Bowie? No

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one cared, even he didn't care. It's Bowie, No, it's Bowie.

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I actually, as a kid, saw people get into an argument,

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like a proper, you know, emotional argument over how to

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pronounce David Bowie's name. Can't be I can't imagine there's

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anything less important to anyone else except David Bowie or

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David Bowie. And I think I was talking about like

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the soaps, because we used to say, well, there was

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an argument. In my it wasn't like a big argument,

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but there was definitely a heated discussion because in the

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early eighties, very early eighties, there was like so many

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soap operas from America that were coming over, and unlike

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the soaps here which would be on regularly, so Coronation

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Street would be on I think back then probably twice

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a week. It increased over the years, maybe three times

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a week, but it was on quite regularly. East Enders

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hadn't started yet. Emma Dale Farm was on a few

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times a week, I think Coronation Street, I'm not that

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might still been on a few times a week, maybe

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every night, but these American soaps were or we got

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to see them once a week, and they were huge

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compared to because ours were just grotty. We all just

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had really grotty, kind of dull, gray soaps, a bit

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like the country can be a bit like that, you know,

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in this country quite gray. And I said that the

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other day. It's a still lovely, but it's very you know,

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it's not the most colorful place at times. I mean

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there's months and months where it's just gray. It's just

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what is going on. And Coronation Street and Emmadale Farm,

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which is based on a farm that was never going

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to be very particularly colorful. Coronation Street was based in

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these just old fashioned streets, and Emma Dale, I was it.

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Coronation Crossroads was based in a motel I liked. I

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liked Crossroads. We used to have actually hospital hospital Hospital.

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It was a soap bo It was about no is

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in the hospital, maybe doctors General. Was it General Hospital?

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I'm pretty sure it was English General Hospital. And I

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can't believe that I remember. I just had a memory

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that I have not had for years and years and

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years and years and years. And that's when I lived

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in Newcastle. General Hospital was on and I think I

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was running downstairs to you know what. We could see

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a hospital from our I'm pretty sure from the from

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the flats that I lived in there was a big

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high rise flats block of flats. Could see a hospital,

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Oh sure I could. I just got these little memories

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of the hospital and the TV show though and where

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I lived at the time, and I used to watch it. Wow,

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there was a bloke on there with a bit with

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a mustache. Yeah, he had a mustache and a white coat.

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I don't remember the tune the you know the theme

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tune Welcome to General Hospital. We are a hospital and

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we are general. I don't know. I don't know what

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the theme tune was. I can't really think of any

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other soaps in the early eighties that was on that

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I used to watch. I mean, in the middle eighties

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we got all the well, we got a lot of

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the Australian soaps, so Neighbors which is a massive hit,

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and then Home and Away which is also a massive hit,

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and then I think then prison Cell Block h I'm

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not sure when that came out. I know, I used

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to watch it when I was probably about sixteen seventeen

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and probably see sixteen. I used to watch Prisoner Cell

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Block H but it used to be on late at

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night and b B was the the one in charge.

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B might be and Missus Mangle she was in Neighbors,

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Henry Bishop was in Home and Away. Wow. But you

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know what the one Australian soap that I personally think

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was the best out of all of them and never

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got its credit because it wasn't on peak time. He

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used to be on in the afternoons. I don't know

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when they first started showing it, but I think it'd

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been around a long time. I got completely addicted to

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it in nineteen eighty six and it's called Sons and

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DAWs now. That show. It was on every day. It

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knew I think it was every day anyway. It knew

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how to do a cliffhanger. It did the best cliffhangers

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like that. I can't think of anything. Bearing in mind,

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I was a proper TV buff back then. You know,

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TV and books, and when I got to about twelve,

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you know, but generally TV and books was kind of

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my favorite thing. Yeah, Doctor Who used to have good cliffhangers.

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But what I noticed happened even like the A Team,

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or it's kind of obvious that I don't know, like

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a TV show that was let's say it was the

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eighteen or Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman was trapped inside a

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I don't know, chocolate chocolate box covered in cream, but

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it was seafrough so you could watch her get changed. No, no, sorry, no,

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I'm just saying that it was that was and she

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couldn't get out of it, but she the only way

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she could get out of it is by getting trying

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on lots of different costumes. See, I was a kid.

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This is what I used to think about back then.

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Not now, that's just wrong. I wouldn't think about that,

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but I was. I was a young and childish, so

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she'd be in this chocolate seafood box trying on various nineties.

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I don't know why I'm Stuff like that just makes

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you feel ill, just like just cover up. That's how

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I feel now. But you know, I was a teenager

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as well as what ten whatever, so eleven ten nine.

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I love Wonder Woman, but now I'm just like God,

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that is so gratuitous, and really, you know what about

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equal rights people. But back then I loved seeing her

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bounce around. Not now I've seen it recently, and I'm

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just disgusted that that used to be on television for

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the populace to look at that. That TV show is

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on television. Not that as in her, but the TV show.

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I think they really took advantage of a good nature

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and getting a running around in that skimpy Wonder Woman costume.

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I think only tell in the window as soon as

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you get hot in here. What was I talking about? Erection? No, no,

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h sons and daughters. Yeah, oh, they all the way

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they used to leave it. Cliffhangers. Cliffhangers. Amazing. Now Doctor

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Who used to be really good at that. But I noticed,

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like I don't know when it started happening, not just

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Doctor Who, but even other TV shows. Something happened where

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they would for example, I was doing that was so

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Wonder Woman. Let's just think of the scenario. So Wonder

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Woman's in this this steel cage, but it's see through again.

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Well there's a big X ray machine so you can

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see through the still no stop that. So Wonder Woman

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is she's chained by her ankles and she's hanging upside

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down and there is there's an animal on the floor.

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No one knows what the animal is because no one

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can remember because no one is looking at the animal.

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But you know she's in danger, imminent danger, and like

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do do do do do do do do do do do,

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and like will she will wonder woman survive? Will wonder

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Woman succumb to this imminent threat? Will anyone be able to?

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Will anyone be able to tell us what the animal

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was that was on the floor? You know? So all

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week long, I'd be waiting. I mean I would just

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literally just be sitting there waiting if on the TV

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for a whole week till the next Saturday, because unfortunately,

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the schooling system we have here does not account for

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that doesn't take consideration for important television programs. And then

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I'd go back the next week and I'd wait, but

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we go back, I'd beat because that's where I lived.

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But I'd be not in that cage with an X

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race so you could see through it. No, what I

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mean is at home, and we'd all be there. We'd

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all be there for different reasons watching it. And my

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older brothers would I think my oldest brother would watch

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it for a lowhile then he'd leave, and then they'd

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come back, and then my other brother would leave and

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come back. I don't know what they were doing. I

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just seemed to be It's almost like they've taken turns.

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I think they must have had a had bad stomachs

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or something. He didn't have that toilet And then my

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dad's moaning, where's the toilet roll gone? Where's it all gone? Well,

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I don't know. I'm watching Wonder Woman and I need

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toilet roll. We all need something, don't we. I need

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to be able to watch Wonder Woman in peace, is

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what I thought to myself. I'm not gonna be saying

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it out loud, and you'd see her escape. So she'd

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so of wobble, not wobble, but like move from side

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to side and managed to I mean the abdominal strength

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that she must have had to do that to be

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able to lift herself up and from that angle and

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and we'll get back and break the chains, but climb

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up so that she didn't land and whatever. I don't

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know what the animal it could have been a shark,

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I don't know, could have been a hedgehog, I don't

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know what the hell it was on the floor that

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she didn't want to land on, And yes she is.

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I mean she'd been there for I mean I was young,

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but I like, I was thinking, she's been there a week.

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Why has no one got on a sort of a

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cup of tea in a donut or something. She's been

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there because there was nothing on her face. She wasn't

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Her face wasn't covered in anything like you think, because

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if she was eating upside down, your face would like

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sugar on and all kinds of stuff, wouldn't it. Because

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I'm not messy anyway. When I eat, it goes all

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down my top trying to eat. You try to eat

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upside down, it's practically impossible. But if you was upside

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down for a week, you kind of have to, wouldn't

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you learn have to learn how to. But there was

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no mess. She looked exactly the same as she did

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a week ago, which is pretty amazing. I know she's

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a superhero and everything, but it was Yeah, I couldn't

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really get my head around that. But you know, I was,

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I was seven years old. Don't don't blame me. Wow,

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it's not my fault. I didn't write the script. I didn't.

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I didn't I didn't direct it. I didn't. I didn't know.

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I thought it was real. I thought it was a documentary.

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I waited all week for that. So I went and

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like and she escaped. Then that was exciting all week,

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waiting to find out if wonder Woman escaped from that being,

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you know, chained upside down in a some kind of box,

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seafood box or something, I don't know, whatever it was. No,

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it was in a warehouse. It was in a warehouse,

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or she in a tree. I remember when she she

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spun around, she turned into her what was it like

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a swimmer? I mean. She also had an invisible plane.

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That was funny. I don't know even I found that

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a bit funny. It's an invisible plane. Yeah, she wasn't

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invisible me and he could argue it was a wonder woman.

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She wasn't the invisible wonder Woman. She was wonder woman. However,

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if you're an invisible plane, it doesn't really make sense

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if you can be seen, does it. Oh, there's this,

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it's fine. It sounds like a plane, but I can't

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see anything. Can't you see wonder Woman there sitting in

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the clouds? Oh? Yeah, what she's sitting on? I don't

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know if it's making a lot of noise. Whatever is

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in betraying his noise. It's a plane. It sounds like

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a plane. It's a big plane. It's a plane, but

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it's invisible. It can't be a plane or else would

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vibrate like that. It's a plane. I don't know if

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it's a plane, it's got to be. It must be invisible. Yeah,

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that's that's what it is. It's an invisible plane. You

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think it'd make her invisible, though, wouldn't you. That's what

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I'm trying to point out. Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman, that

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was my favorite TV show. I probably preferred Wonder Woman

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over the Hulk, although I did love the Hulk as well.

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And a six million dollar Man or a bionic man?

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Who else? Kung Fu? He was a superhero Batman, of course,

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but the Batmans were from the sixties and I was

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watching him in the eighties. Although it was still great.

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They still are great even now. I think the original

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Batman shows they're funny. I don't ever remember seeing Superman

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TV shows until Lewis and Clark in the nineties. Was

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it Lewis and Clark? Yeah, Lewis and Clark. That was huge,

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hugely successful, in this country. That was peak viewing time

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on a Saturday night. But now Doctor Who and a

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lot of shows for the last twenty odd years or

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even more maybe did have a cliffhanger. And then it's

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say next week, tune in next week. So you've got

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Doctor Who in a cage, you know, in a in

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a box and trapped, and then what's gonna happen as

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you it's a dalek, it's a darlic. Oh, a darlic

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eating a sandwich or whatever. And then oh no, this

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squirrel is going to get him. Always a daric going

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to get him first on a squirrel. There's there's a

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crazy squirrel with a baseball bat. And then they say

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tune in next week, and they show you him sort

465
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:48.320
of in a hammock eating some war melon, and we've

466
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.519
playing a harpsichord or whatever. It's like not at the

467
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:59.159
same time, but it's like, well, clearly he escaped. It's

468
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.920
not much of a cliff if you tell us, not

469
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.880
just tell us, it's show us, show us, show us,

470
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:13.280
show us that Doctor Who escaped. Dear Jason, I just

471
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.199
wanted to point out, firstly, I think the way you

472
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.639
were talking about Wonder Woman was wrong. Secondly, I think

473
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.320
that you need to know that it's not doctor who

474
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:31.039
it's the doctor. And secondly, the way you were talking

475
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:34.000
about your brothers going out from taking turns in the bathroom,

476
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:45.760
we're into the toilet. Wow, dear Jason blind. So yeah,

477
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:49.719
I am, oh, yeah, this is what I was talking about.

478
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:51.920
I just came out of something really silly the other day.

479
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.960
So the whole thing about is it dynasty or is

480
00:45:56.039 --> 00:46:00.159
it dynasty? So basically we were arguing about how to

481
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:08.679
pronounce certain words. It started off with David Bowie David

482
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:13.960
Bowie or David Bowie, Bowie or Bowie. I think there

483
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:18.199
was someone else. I can't remember what's the other name.

484
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.159
There was other names that were weren't sure. I mean

485
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.960
there was a time when we didn't know. Yeah, when

486
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:34.159
I was in Wales, Boy George or Culture Club. You

487
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:42.199
know Culture Club were big, big, like just come out

488
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.360
and they were huge, and they were even in the

489
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:52.719
eighteen So I guess a bit of nostalgia there. What

490
00:46:52.840 --> 00:47:00.079
Culture Club was in the eighteen Yes, they were, And

491
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:07.320
I remember sitting around outside the tent in Wales. We

492
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.559
were all discussing whether or not boy George was actually

493
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:20.840
a woman or a man, boy George, whether or not

494
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.199
he was a woman or a man, because he wore

495
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:27.840
a dress and we're having this conversation, looks like a woman.

496
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.960
Not one person said, but his name is boy George.

497
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.239
There's a clue. There's a clue somewhere. I mean, it

498
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:48.840
might be quite cryptic. It's yeah, I love boy George.

499
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:57.599
Culture club was great as we am a man. See

500
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:02.119
it's in the title with our bigtion I am a

501
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:12.679
man who doesn't know. I mean there was evidence, but

502
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.280
I think we just used to argue about anything for

503
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:21.119
no reason. That was it always had to be an argument.

504
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:27.920
So there's four brothers and parents, and that was just

505
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.199
kind of okay. One of the kids was tiny, so

506
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:35.000
he wasn't that involved, but he did get involved after

507
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:40.119
as soon as he could talk. He was arguing, causing

508
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:51.480
trouble proper, trouble maker, always arguing. In the end, I

509
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.559
just used to just like kind of bothered with this,

510
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.360
Why are you arguing? And then let's start with let's

511
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:05.400
start another argument. We're not arguing. That's the whole feel

512
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:13.320
of I remember seeing him big brother, this woman saying, yes, said,

513
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:22.119
you seem so angry. I'm not angry. I'm passionate. Okay, okay, okay.

514
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:24.679
That's the whole thing is how do you how do

515
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:31.480
you make an angry person angry? Tell them they're angry? Wow,

516
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:41.199
I'm not angry. I'm passion that I'm not hungry. Giving

517
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:56.320
me some food. Oh yeah. So the argument was all

518
00:49:56.440 --> 00:50:00.119
the discussion, but it was an argument is it dynasty

519
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:06.400
or dynasty? Dynasty or dynasty. See, half of my family

520
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:12.920
said it's dynasty. The other half was saying it's dynasty

521
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.960
because it was pronounced I think different in America or whatever.

522
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:17.840
And this is what I was talking about this the

523
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:22.880
other day in a podcast, and because I wanted to contribute,

524
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.079
and we're already talking about David Bowie if Doe Bowie

525
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:31.679
or David Bowie, and I showered out, what about Dallas?

526
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.320
And I just stopped and looked at me. I said,

527
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.199
I said, what do you mean? So? How do you

528
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:43.599
say that? How do you pronounce that? One? I really

529
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:49.760
thought I was contributing something to the argument, but just

530
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:51.400
gave me the giggles when I thought about it the

531
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.719
other day. It's such a silly thing to say in

532
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.960
it what about Dallas? Oh it's not as funny now,

533
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:04.199
but it was back then. It felt funny because it

534
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:11.440
was just I do like absurd absurd n I do.

535
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:15.599
I don't know why. Just tickles me a little bit,

536
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:28.320
just just really silly things. It makes me laugh. So

537
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:33.400
I did that. Yeah, put that podcast together with all

538
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:38.639
the recordings from last week, with the last seven days.

539
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:40.719
Just to let me boy to sleep once.

540
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:50.000
Or LMB white yes, LMB White, yes, let me or

541
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.920
LMB White yes, you to sleep.

542
00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:06.239
Yeah, LMB White Yes. I wanted to make a recording earlier,

543
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:10.400
but I just couldn't do it. I wouldn't have been

544
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.639
able to do it without falling asleep. My voice is

545
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:22.400
all deep now or deep. I was ball and star.

546
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:25.880
I have to do that every time. Every time I

547
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.880
got a crocon, I have to cry and try and

548
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:29.880
do the older.

549
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:45.159
I ball hard and star, rolling, moll and molling, she

550
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.559
bet ragging, moaning, rolling, moaning, moaning or hard.

551
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.599
Yeah. I sometimes feel that I'm in the middle of

552
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:06.000
It's almost like the end of an era, the beginning

553
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:11.280
of an era, the end of that era, and then

554
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.360
the beginning of another era. It might just be because

555
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:20.000
I've lived so long, but it's like the end of

556
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:25.719
the seventies seemed to give way to kind of a

557
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:32.239
new period, and the music was quite different. The world

558
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:36.760
seemed quite different. That's probably more to do with you know,

559
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:40.039
I was just getting older. But the seventies. When I

560
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:49.159
think of the seventies, I think of a very, very gray,

561
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:56.320
very I just yeah, just I just remember a lot

562
00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.840
of the strikes and all that stuff, and it was, yeah,

563
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.239
this didn't seem great. Some people loved the seventies, so

564
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:07.679
I was a kid, so I didn't get to really

565
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.880
experience the seventies in the sort of an amazing way.

566
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:24.159
But the eighties seemed different. Then there was the nineties.

567
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:32.639
So for me, my years in a way were the

568
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:45.800
eighties and nineties, so you know, from ten to thirty,

569
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:51.199
because the twenties are quite I would say, important period,

570
00:54:51.239 --> 00:55:00.920
isn't it, And that period of going through teenage years

571
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:10.679
and maneuvering the whole kind of leaving school, getting a job,

572
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:18.960
perhaps having a relationship of some kind, and finding somewhere

573
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:23.440
to live and you know, pain rent and all that stuff.

574
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.800
Maybe for the first time it was Yeah, it was

575
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:31.239
an interesting It wasn't interesting at all. Actually, I don't

576
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.719
know why I said the word interesting, but it can

577
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:41.159
be I guess an interesting period for some people. No,

578
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:45.360
I wasn't never a big fan of pain rent, I'll

579
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:52.000
be honest. Yeah, once I was. Once I got my

580
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:57.519
flat above the chip shop when I was sixteen. Once

581
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:02.599
I moved in there, paying forty pounds a week, I

582
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.440
had forty seven pounds a week coming in. There's how

583
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.800
much money I was earning a week. So I was

584
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:11.760
paying forty pounds out of that for the rent. So

585
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:23.000
you know, it was I was actually better off financially,

586
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.760
better off when I had a paper round. When I

587
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.480
was living at home and had a payer round, I

588
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:30.199
had more money in my pocket than I had when

589
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:33.119
I was working full time. And I was doing six

590
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:39.960
days a week as well. Well we're evenings, you know,

591
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:43.000
but you know, six different days, so I had Sunday

592
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:54.320
off and it was weird. It's like, it's really strange

593
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.320
to think that some of the people I worked with

594
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:12.559
there would be now pensioners. Some of them were probably

595
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.800
had a good sort of I don't know, six seven

596
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.159
years on me. Maybe they were twenty six probably at

597
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.800
five years maybe six years, so twenty two, so I'd

598
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:28.880
be in their sixties. And some of the waitresses that

599
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:33.480
were maybe a year or so younger than me, so

600
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:37.679
they'll be kind of my age now. Possibly had like

601
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:47.440
loads of kids, maybe maybe not. Didn't really keeping contact

602
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.039
with them really. I think one of them had quite

603
00:57:50.079 --> 00:58:00.800
a few kids. Didn't have waiters there. It was like

604
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.440
a chip shop restaurant. There was a restaurant there and

605
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:07.559
there was a lot of tables, but it was definitely

606
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:10.920
it was a good size to make money. They were

607
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:16.119
definitely making money. They left coaches, coach trips or pensioners

608
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.400
come and eat in there on a thinger Tuesday and

609
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:24.800
a Thursday. Because it was a seaside place, so even

610
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:28.719
in the winter, people coaches would come down from I

611
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:32.920
don't know London maybe or Essex or different parts around

612
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:37.719
the area that had come down and go and eat

613
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:41.079
in a restaurant or go for a walk on the

614
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:48.000
beach or on a promenade. You know. Yeah, and I

615
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:52.920
think there was an OAP discount. Can you hear all

616
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:59.599
that screaming in the garden again? Wow? I can't escape it. Unfortunately,

617
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:05.079
it's just I think it might just be a little

618
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:09.440
with an echo area. Maybe they're not shouting all the time,

619
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:15.840
maybe they're talking just normal, normal kind of volume. But

620
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:21.639
it's just echoing. I mean, don't matter how else to

621
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:27.679
say it. Maybe it's just like magnificated in itself. It's

622
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:35.199
possible that's not what's happening, but it's possible. It might be.

623
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:48.639
It might be. Yeah, And it's strange thinking about people that.

624
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:57.000
Even my karate instructor, I think he's now in his seventies.

625
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:03.440
I had when I was at school. So when I

626
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:08.840
was what fourteen fifteen, he was a good twenty years

627
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:16.519
older than me, or maybe fifteen he was maybe he

628
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:25.440
was thirty. Yeah, maybe it will be about seventeen now,

629
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:28.199
it might have been a little bit. It might have

630
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.800
been early thirties, but it was a fully grown out

631
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:37.440
of way. He wasn't in his twenties anyway. He could

632
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.719
have been twenty nine, but I would probably say he

633
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:50.559
was about thirty at the time, so yeah, it'd be seventy.

634
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.840
He was one of my heroes. I had heroes. I

635
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.639
never told them. You can't really walk up to someone

636
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:02.920
say you're my hero by you know, it's it's just

637
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:07.960
it's a bit weird, isn't it. But he was one

638
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:12.519
of my heroes. He was my karate instructor, And you know,

639
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:17.320
I had heroes that were famous and Bruce Lee and

640
01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:24.400
boxers that I've seen like Frank Bruno, and you know,

641
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:30.199
when I was a kid, TV characters, Wonder Woman and

642
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:38.199
you know, there were heroes. But then he was like

643
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:45.800
a real life person that I looked up to. I

644
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.559
don't know choice it was about six for six, but

645
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:50.920
you know, he looked up to him as a as

646
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:55.199
a I don't know about a role model, because I

647
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:59.559
had no idea what kind of life he led, but

648
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:04.239
I just really liked him. And there was another in

649
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:07.840
Struck where he was a brown belt. This other person

650
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:12.199
he became a black belt shortly, you think after I

651
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.079
left school or just before I left school, and I

652
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:18.679
really looked up to him. Yeah, he was definitely a

653
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.320
black belt before I left school. So I think he

654
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.679
probably got his black belt when I was about fifteen fourteen,

655
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:30.559
Maybe not my instructor, the main instructor was already like

656
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:33.840
a second belt second day. I think he got his

657
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:40.239
black belt in the seventies. Yeah, I think he got

658
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.039
his black belt in the seventies. I could look it up.

659
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.199
I can actually look up these information if I wanted,

660
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.840
but I'm sitting down, so I can't be bothered and

661
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.360
it's so nice to not be looking at a computer screen.

662
01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:05.360
Oh oh, it's lovely. Just means I can't fact check

663
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:17.119
any of my lies, never mind never mind me what

664
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:20.000
other people did I was? Did I look up to

665
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:33.920
real life people? I mean, there were real life people,

666
01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:38.079
but it's not people that I knew there were when

667
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:43.960
I was in my twenties. There was comedians that I

668
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:48.679
looked up to that I mean, there's loads that were

669
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:55.559
just brilliant comedians. So not all of them liked me,

670
01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:57.679
or I say, like me, I don't know if any

671
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:00.280
of them liked me, but not all of them gave

672
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:06.599
me acknowledged my existence as it were. But some did,

673
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:13.039
and they're the ones that I respected most because you know,

674
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:23.679
Alan Davis, Harry Hill, people like Lee Mac, other ones

675
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:30.599
that Lie Mac wasn't early nineties, but he by all

676
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.280
these people that kind went on to have TV careers

677
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:38.400
and they were friendly to me. I used to get

678
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:41.760
on very well with Tim Vine, who went on to

679
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:47.360
do a lot of TV work, and I kind of

680
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:52.840
had a little at different periods. So when I was performing,

681
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:57.440
I got to know kind of got to know everyone

682
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:03.360
on the circuit, all the promoters, the club owners, you know,

683
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:07.679
and all the comedians, the ones that were successful, the

684
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:12.440
ones that were just plodding by and were happy to

685
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:15.800
just do a few gigs a month and maybe get

686
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:20.119
paid for it, and others that were aiming for bigger things,

687
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:28.039
some that were on the way to being famous, some

688
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:33.280
that were already famous, but still tipping their toes, dipping

689
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.679
their toes into the comedy scene, maybe do a few

690
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:40.480
gigs here and there just to you know, practice some

691
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:45.079
new material for an upcoming tour or something like that,

692
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.800
you know. And then there was ones that were new

693
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:54.760
like myself, who just starting out, didn't really know what

694
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.000
they were doing. And then out of those new ones,

695
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:01.679
there was those that went on to be famous, and

696
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:07.800
they were good almost straight away. I wasn't in that category.

697
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:13.000
I was. I probably classed as a newbie the whole

698
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:20.159
time I was doing it, really yeah, But so I

699
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:27.159
had that eight years of being around comedians. I can't

700
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:33.360
even imagine how many performances stand up comedy performances I

701
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:40.400
saw during that period. In fact, the only people that

702
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.360
would have seen as many stand up performances as I have,

703
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:47.719
as many probably and also maybe a lot more as well.

704
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:51.119
But the only people will have seen the amount of

705
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:55.400
performances of stand up comedy as myself. Are those that

706
01:06:55.840 --> 01:07:02.440
either perform perform comedy or are in let's say they

707
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:08.880
run a club, that that's the only people that would

708
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:14.480
have seen as much comedy as me during that time.

709
01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:19.199
I guess I suppose if someone went to comedy twice

710
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:24.199
a week since nineteen ninety, then they'll seem more comedy

711
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.559
than me, because that's what like thirty odd years, isn't

712
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:34.800
it thirty years of Yeah, so they're see more comedy

713
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:37.679
than me. But I'm sure as an average person that

714
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:41.159
maybe goes to see comedy once a week, that's an

715
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:44.280
avid fan. Something that goes to see a comedy show

716
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:50.920
once a week is a big comedy fan. But I

717
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:57.039
used to go multiple times a week. But you know,

718
01:07:57.079 --> 01:07:59.880
I was trying to learn to do it. And then

719
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.400
so I had some people I was friends with a

720
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:09.400
lot of the open acts, the new people. And then

721
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.800
when I was doing some DJing in a comedy club,

722
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.800
I became friends with the comedians. The ones that were

723
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:24.560
getting paid they're really the good ones. There was not

724
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:26.720
that the ones that weren't getting paid much weren't good,

725
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:31.119
but the established you know, and so many of them

726
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:34.760
went on to do TV work and got their own

727
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:41.680
some of them became really famous, like Jimmy Carr. I

728
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.720
saw him for years and years and years. He was

729
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:51.439
almost like the regular compare at this comedy club, and

730
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:56.000
then he became he started doing TV stuff and then

731
01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.840
he was headlining. I mean, he was successful very quickly

732
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:08.720
and still is. So I used to see him also.

733
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:16.079
He's his management was my friend, well two friends, my

734
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:20.920
friend and a lady who she still manages him. But

735
01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:26.039
my friend also managed him because they did it with

736
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:33.600
the comedy club. So it's Jimmy Carr's manager was my

737
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:38.359
friend for I don't know how many years, a few

738
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:47.760
years and if you don't have is now with Chambers management.

739
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:52.399
So I used to know her, Hannah Chambers. I used

740
01:09:52.439 --> 01:09:56.560
to know how I haven't seen her for donkeys and

741
01:09:57.439 --> 01:10:02.640
zebras and long time and last time I saw it

742
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:13.239
was wow, long time ago, decades, decades and decades and decades.

743
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:15.920
What was gone with her? I always liked to what

744
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:23.199
was gone with her? Decades ago, decades and decades. It's

745
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:27.000
really weird. She got herself an assistant and I used

746
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:29.119
to still go up to London to visit and stuff,

747
01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:32.720
and I couldn't believe it. I walked into the office

748
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.920
because she was still working from the above the comedy club,

749
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:40.920
because that's where the agency was based, and there was

750
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:45.680
a female there. It was just like a younger version

751
01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:54.279
of her, not related, but honestly same characteristics, had looked

752
01:10:54.359 --> 01:11:01.239
very similar, same same hair, curly curly hair, the same

753
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:06.600
build of body. Is like, if you you gon't be related,

754
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:09.960
surely sure be actually like your youngest sister or something.

755
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:17.000
Wasn't no relationship, no, no, like blood related relatives, relatives.

756
01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:23.560
It's just like that was just one of those weird moments,

757
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:36.600
like wow, just remember that. I don't know if you

758
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:41.119
can hear that. Where were were were w wow wow

759
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:53.079
wow wow out there where wore wow wow wow wow

760
01:11:53.319 --> 01:12:05.319
wow wow. So what was that all about? Oh yeah,

761
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:11.439
but why was I talking about gigs? Comedy gigs? I

762
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:22.159
don't know. It's kind of weird. How many of what

763
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:23.359
did Who did I see?

764
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:23.760
Oh?

765
01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:27.279
I saw a comedian. He was always older than me anyway,

766
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:31.159
but not not by a huge amount. And I saw

767
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:36.760
him on this particular comedian it's been on TV loads

768
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:40.399
and he's had a really good career and I saw

769
01:12:40.479 --> 01:12:46.640
him on some game show, you know, question quiz show thing,

770
01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:54.520
like a celebrity version, and I just looks so old now,

771
01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:59.239
I mean he is, but he's like wow, he's just

772
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:05.880
I just remember what he looked like in the early nineties.

773
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:07.960
And no one looks the same as I did in

774
01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:11.079
the early nineties, and they shouldn't either. If you find

775
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:13.119
someone that looks the same as I did in the

776
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:22.000
early nineties, call the police there's something going on. I

777
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:26.319
remember Steve Coogan, I never knew. I never never spoke

778
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:30.880
to Steve Coogan. He was already pretty much a big

779
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:34.800
shot long before I was even on the scene. He

780
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:38.199
was I think he was doing voiceovers for Spitting Image,

781
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:47.279
and he was already really successful. He wasn't like famous yet,

782
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:52.439
but he was on its way. And to me, Steve

783
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:59.079
Coogan's probably the Alan Partridge character is the best comedy

784
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:02.840
character I think think for me personally, I think it's

785
01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:08.800
the best comedy character ever created. And there's been There's

786
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:12.039
been so many in Bill Co's one, isn't it? Just

787
01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:26.119
for example? But Borat Inspector Cluso in Spectaclusa. I mean, yet,

788
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:30.439
I don't compare any of them with each other. But

789
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:36.640
what what he's done is the substance he's added and

790
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:39.000
the fact that he's been doing the same character since

791
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:55.079
for thirty five odd years is phenomenal. It is something

792
01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:59.119
almost unrivaled, I would say, I mean, is there some

793
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:11.319
people was Dame Edna Everidge, so she was that was

794
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:16.279
a character and she was probably doing that for like

795
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:20.680
forty odd years, if not more, or he was doing

796
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:24.159
now for forty odd years. But I can't. And Lily Savage,

797
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.039
but Lily well, both of them no longer here are they.

798
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:31.159
Lily Savage, it's not weird. It was not weird, But

799
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:41.760
Lily Savage never really wasn't really my thing, didn't really

800
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:44.119
I don't know what it was because I know it

801
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:49.760
was a character and that's what he became famous for,

802
01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:52.720
and you know, I think he won the Perier for

803
01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:58.920
it in the early nineties. And what I liked, though,

804
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:03.079
is when he just was himself and he did a

805
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:07.079
TV show during the day and it was such a

806
01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:16.079
good show. It was funny, it was just I don't know,

807
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:22.720
he was almost like the perfect TV host. It was

808
01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:26.479
so good. He loved dogs and I can't remember his

809
01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:37.680
name now, Oh doub isn't it something O'Leary, not do it. O'Leary.

810
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:46.159
Did I say his name is it's from Liverpool? What

811
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:50.520
was his I can't remember what the female name was.

812
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:54.600
Now that's terrible in it. But he was so good.

813
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:58.680
I really liked him a lot. Just I never got

814
01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:03.760
to see the performance on the stage of him doing

815
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:07.600
his act likes comedy act, because he was pretty much

816
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:10.800
already famous or on his way to being famous. He

817
01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:16.359
was already doing shows like touring stuff like that before

818
01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:20.239
I had even arrived. You know, he was big pretty

819
01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:29.199
much straight away. Not straight away, but he was popular O'Leary.

820
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:39.600
I can't think Lee Mack, who's very well known in

821
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:43.880
this country. He once said to me that he liked

822
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:48.520
my act. So there. He might've just been saying it

823
01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:52.960
just to be kind, but he said it. This was

824
01:17:53.039 --> 01:18:02.439
in nineteen ninety seven or eight ninety eight, probably ninety

825
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:09.880
seven ninety eight, one of them. And I said thank you.

826
01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:15.720
I said, you're not too bad. I reckon, if you

827
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:17.920
keep going, you might be able to get some paid gigs.

828
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:24.399
Now he's probably one of the most famous comedians in

829
01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:32.000
the country. Actually, Limac, is that a great career? Very

830
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:37.560
quick now, I know, because we told me his biggest

831
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:41.600
hero was Tim Vine, who I also knew because I

832
01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:45.760
started at the same time as Tim Vine and Tim

833
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:51.199
went on to be he He's said, this is something that,

834
01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:56.199
this is trivia, this is a trivia Tuesday thing. When

835
01:18:56.319 --> 01:19:01.920
Channel five launched in I think it was nineteen ninety seven,

836
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:05.960
could have been ninety six, but I think it was

837
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:12.119
ninety seven, like beginning of the year ish. Yeah, I

838
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:18.680
think it was ninety seven, nineteen ninety seven. Tim Vine

839
01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:23.199
was the face of the new channel. Now, bear in

840
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:26.560
mind we only had four channels, BBC one and BBC two,

841
01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:33.000
ITV and Channel four would had Channel four since probably

842
01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:38.840
about nineteen eighty two, so before that, you know three channels.

843
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:44.319
So in a country that only has four channels, a

844
01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:50.239
fifth channel is a big deal and it was huge publicity.

845
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:57.399
So when Channel five launched, Tim Vine launched it not

846
01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:00.239
just on his own, but he was the face of

847
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:05.920
tim of Channel five in the same way that Jimmy

848
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.319
Carr became the face of Channel four, although Channel four

849
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:13.680
was already established, but Jimmy Carr was like he was

850
01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:17.479
on lots of different things. Tim Vine was on lots

851
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:23.840
of different things on Channel five. He had I think

852
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:29.359
at least two game shows and some other stuff. So

853
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:40.479
he was flying proper flying, which was great. The last

854
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:49.079
time I saw it was about nineteen ninety nine. Yeah,

855
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:59.279
oh yeah, So why am I mentioning him? What's his name?

856
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:05.439
Lee Mack absolutely like his hero. His comedy hero was

857
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:10.920
Tim Vine, and he wanted to be like Tim Vine.

858
01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:14.039
But it was never going to be like Tim Vine

859
01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:16.600
because he just had a different act. But I think

860
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:20.319
they enjoyed the puns because Tim Vine was kind of

861
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:27.800
the king of puns and and I think he held

862
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:32.760
the world record for the most jokes told in a

863
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:37.159
specific amount of time. He's like quick fire jokes, Black

864
01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:47.359
Mak make Man Bank were like really but he was, Yeah,

865
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:50.760
he I used to see him. I remember what his

866
01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:54.439
is weird, right, So Tim Vine went on really, you know,

867
01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:56.880
he had a really good career, and he did work

868
01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:01.359
with Lee Mack. They worked together a couple of times. Actually,

869
01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:05.239
I think they had a really called the stand Up Show,

870
01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:08.800
and then they did another one not going Out, So

871
01:22:08.960 --> 01:22:12.159
he was in his work with they both worked together.

872
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:24.520
I was two things I remember had Tim Vine. Right,

873
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.359
it's weird. I'm just talking about I'm taling about people

874
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:29.159
that you might not have ever heard of, especially if

875
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:33.119
you're not maybe from this country, but you might want

876
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:36.760
to google it at some point, google him or them

877
01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:43.720
the different comedians I've mentioned. So, the first time I

878
01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:50.640
saw Tim Vine was an open act evening and he

879
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:57.479
got laughs, but the comedians were not happy because he

880
01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:03.960
was doing he did some old jokes. What's his name?

881
01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:07.960
Just like that that comedian he did, So he did

882
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.560
some old jokes and some of the comedians are being

883
01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:15.600
really vicious to him about him rather and it was

884
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:17.920
it was his first time on stage, like come on,

885
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:20.840
maybe he's not his very first time, but his first

886
01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:25.279
sort of thing. And he went away and he came

887
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:31.319
back with his own stuff but Tommy Cooper, but they

888
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:34.880
didn't realize what he was doing was he was He

889
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:41.960
showed that he had star ability, that he had to

890
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.720
be able to stand in front of an audience talking

891
01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:51.279
into a camera a microphone. Is it might not be

892
01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:56.199
quite as easy as it looks. I'm just going to

893
01:23:56.279 --> 01:23:58.039
say that a lot there's a lot of people would

894
01:23:58.119 --> 01:24:04.720
not just can't do it, wouldn't even attempted. So he

895
01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:07.640
obviously showed that he had the he had the bottle

896
01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:10.760
to do it and then he went away and he

897
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.800
came back and he started getting good and yeah. Three.

898
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:18.079
I got two memories of him after that. Remember once

899
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:21.600
he said to me, I was in the comedy club

900
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:26.520
and he said, the comedy store are going to give

901
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.720
me some gigs. I got an interview with them to

902
01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:32.119
do a gig there, and I told them that I've

903
01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:34.520
decided because he was I think he was still working

904
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:37.000
while he was doing the comedy at that at this

905
01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:39.119
point he had a job and he said, I'm going

906
01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:41.680
to give up my job. I can hear his voice.

907
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:43.840
NAIs said, I'm going to give up my job and

908
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:48.439
I want to do comedy full time and I want

909
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:50.840
to put everything into it and I will be successful.

910
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.079
And he said to me, that's what he told the

911
01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:57.600
person at the comedy store, the owner of the comedy store.

912
01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:07.000
And he did and he did, and he was another

913
01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:10.000
memory I've had with him. And this was probably before

914
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:15.199
that conversation we both did. We both did this gig

915
01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:18.439
TiVo together. It was a middle of nowhere. It really

916
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:23.560
was right in the sticks kind of Middlesex area. If

917
01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:27.960
you've got Middlesex, Hertfordshire, Essex, all these little areas that

918
01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:32.359
are like outside of London, and you can end up

919
01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:34.680
in the middle of like in a place that there's

920
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:40.079
nothing around, like one pub, six houses and a post box,

921
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:43.479
you know, it's like and a train stop. So people

922
01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:46.760
might live there and get the train into London, but

923
01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:48.880
there's nothing to do when they're home. A part of

924
01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:53.800
them be at home. There's nothing there, and some people

925
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:57.039
wanted to they like that, and it's a little bit

926
01:25:57.079 --> 01:26:00.800
like here. I guess this is probably like that. Thinking

927
01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:04.359
about it. Anyway, we're in the middle of this place,

928
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:06.359
in the middle of nowhere, and with it at this venue,

929
01:26:07.960 --> 01:26:11.000
I think it was like an arts theater or arts center,

930
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:17.680
unless it was upstairs in a pub. Anyway, Tim Vine

931
01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:26.640
was doing a comparing so he came on. He didn't

932
01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:30.159
like it. They didn't like him, so he introduced the

933
01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:38.119
first act, came on again. Audience didn't like him. I

934
01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:40.439
did my act. I don't even know if I was on.

935
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:45.760
I probably was on. Came on again, audience didn't like him.

936
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:50.840
Third act like another short one and if and we

937
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:54.039
were just laughing because they just didn't like they really

938
01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:56.760
liked were hostile towards him, and he was doing exactly

939
01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:59.960
the same as you always ever did. Which normally was.

940
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:03.319
It's really successful because it was a very likable person.

941
01:27:04.720 --> 01:27:07.760
So what he did is he came back on stage

942
01:27:09.239 --> 01:27:17.359
wearing a plant pot on his head. There was a

943
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:20.319
proper plant pot, mud everywhere all over the place, all

944
01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:28.960
over his head, dripping down his face, and it got

945
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:34.680
everyone's attention and he said, oh, that last compare was crap.

946
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:38.840
When he and he laughed and from that second they

947
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:43.439
loved him. And he didn't do any different material than

948
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:46.159
what he would have done anyway. You know, he just

949
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:49.079
carried on with his act and they loved him, but

950
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:55.920
they didn't like him before. Fickle, very It's very strange

951
01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:01.279
how that can happen. I've actually seen more than once

952
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:06.319
a comedian go on stage do exactly the same act.

953
01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:11.439
This is someone Earl Oakin and he was I don't

954
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:15.000
know if he's still doing it, but he looked a

955
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:22.760
bit like Roy Orbison at the glasses and he had

956
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:28.640
a guitar. He was like a middle aged man and

957
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:36.880
he was singing. And I've never seen him before. This

958
01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:39.000
is the first time I'd ever seen no. I had

959
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:42.000
seen him once before a the Comedy Store, but this

960
01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:43.880
is the first time, you know, I hadn't seen him

961
01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:49.760
for years and years. So he came on stage, sat down,

962
01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:54.359
and people were literally booing him, and I think someone

963
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:57.840
even chucked stuff on the stage. They did not like

964
01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:01.840
him at all. This is the Friday night and he

965
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.960
got off after probably about ten minutes, didn't do his

966
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:12.640
full set, and they were really hostile to him. There's

967
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:14.640
about two hundred people in the audience. It wasn't like

968
01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:17.760
a huge amount of people, but still it wasn't nice.

969
01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:24.159
It wasn't a nice atmosphere. The Saturday night, each still

970
01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:29.439
turned up to do his gig and possibly had one

971
01:29:29.439 --> 01:29:32.399
of the best performances I've ever seen any comedian have

972
01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:40.039
as far as an audience reaction standing ovation after standing ovation.

973
01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:46.560
Now I'm exaggerating for effect, but it really was an

974
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:50.520
amazing gig. The audience loved him from the second they

975
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:57.880
saw him, and they laughed at everything. And this was

976
01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:01.000
a season pro that had probably been doing for twenty years.

977
01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:08.239
He knew every sound, he did, every facial expression. He'd

978
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:14.039
probably done hundreds and hundreds of times before to perfect

979
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:17.800
the act. And it was a great act, really funny.

980
01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:24.119
But the first night, Friday night, they weren't having it.

981
01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:34.039
Saturday Night like a different audience, but still And the

982
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:36.800
weird thing is I found myself being swayed by the

983
01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:42.039
audience because I watched both performances and he did look

984
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:46.600
rubbish on the Friday night. On the sad Saturday night,

985
01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:52.119
it looked amazing, but he wasn't doing anything different. I've

986
01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:55.319
no doubt that being bowed and showered at would have

987
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:59.960
affected his performance of Friday Night. But you know, the start,

988
01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:05.600
he was doing everything the same. And he's one of

989
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:10.079
the best performances I've ever seen on stage. And I've

990
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:18.239
seen I don't know how many have I seen, thousands,

991
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:21.560
probably if you include all the ones I see on

992
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:26.760
YouTube and stuff since, but thousands on stage live, even

993
01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:29.479
if it was like only five or ten minutes slot.

994
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:33.600
I've seen a lot of. Yeah, over that twenty year

995
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:41.520
period of sort of going to comedy clubs, ten really

996
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:47.399
intensive years, and then I'm still going back during the

997
01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:55.319
following ten years. Yeah. In fact, I was still involved

998
01:31:55.560 --> 01:32:02.880
in twenty sixteen something my friend did. I just just

999
01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:05.119
didn't want to travel to London anymore. I just didn't

1000
01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:09.560
fill up to it, which is a shame I kind

1001
01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:11.840
of wish I had. Now. I went a couple of

1002
01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:19.439
times I did help out. I did some volunteering at

1003
01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:26.359
a local center. I don't know what it's called, but

1004
01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:31.199
it's like a venue. I think it's a charity, but

1005
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:35.960
it's a venue where that music, dancing, stuff like that,

1006
01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:40.880
and I volunteered there for a few times. But again

1007
01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:45.159
I couldn't wonder, I couldn't face going in and kind

1008
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:48.760
of messed out for myself. But I saw a couple

1009
01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:54.840
of comedians there and it was so different to see

1010
01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:56.560
it commit For me, it was so different to see

1011
01:32:56.560 --> 01:33:03.399
a comedian on stage with an all audience, especially probably

1012
01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:07.359
more than two hundred people as well, but I've seen

1013
01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:11.239
audiences of much more than two hundred, but it's just

1014
01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:15.880
not being in London. To see a stand up comedian

1015
01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:24.279
outside of London, it was just weird. But it's so funny,

1016
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:33.199
and I never really understood why people laugh as much

1017
01:33:33.199 --> 01:33:36.640
as they do sometimes at comedy gig by the audience.

1018
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:42.800
I didn't understand it as an audience member because I

1019
01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:47.680
never really felt like an audience member. Really have been

1020
01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:49.960
thousands of times, but not really because I was kind

1021
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:56.079
of either part of the show or just hanging around

1022
01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:58.439
with the other comedians, you know, So I was kind

1023
01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:04.880
of there or working, but we had a by second

1024
01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:10.720
insurance job. We had a night out. Everyone went and

1025
01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:14.279
it was an ipswitch football ground. BlimE me. It was Yeah.

1026
01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:17.439
I had a night out and they put on a

1027
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:23.319
comedy show. It was hilarious and there was comedians that

1028
01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:27.479
I'd already seen before. They hadn't No one think they

1029
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:29.000
didn't see me because I was in the audit. I

1030
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:32.960
was like in the dark in the crowd. But it

1031
01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:35.680
was so weird because they were making fun of people

1032
01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:40.399
that I worked with. It made it funnier. So their

1033
01:34:40.680 --> 01:34:43.479
ad libs and they're put downs were way more funnier

1034
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:47.720
as an audience member knowing the person who were put

1035
01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:52.399
down or putting down than if it had just been

1036
01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:55.159
in a like a normal crowd of people. I didn't know.

1037
01:34:56.760 --> 01:35:01.439
It was hilarious. It's plus I suppose I was drinking

1038
01:35:01.479 --> 01:35:06.520
as well. But it was a great, great night just

1039
01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:14.000
like yeah, still a big comedy fan. Really, So this

1040
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:19.479
is my Sunday Sunday chit chat. I don't know what

1041
01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:24.600
I've been talking about. So if I'm gonna go, I

1042
01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:31.000
have to take this one out for walk. So thank

1043
01:35:31.039 --> 01:35:37.800
you for listening. Tomorrow I will do Monday's boarding objects Tuesday,

1044
01:35:37.960 --> 01:35:45.119
I will do Tuesday's yeah, what is it? Trivia Tuesday? Wednesday,

1045
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:48.600
hopefully I'll do whisper Wednesday, and then I'll do a

1046
01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:54.000
Q and O Friday again. Now, just let you know,

1047
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:58.079
if you're still awake, my neighbor opposite me is having

1048
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:05.479
his bathroom fitted either tomorrow or Tuesday. I think it's

1049
01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:13.560
tomorrow actually, which means there's going to be a lot

1050
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:18.039
of noise. So if for any reason I can't make

1051
01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:21.039
a recording on any of those days or all of

1052
01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:29.039
those days, just you know, please forgive me, because there's

1053
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:31.880
only so much noise I can allow when I'm doing

1054
01:36:31.880 --> 01:36:36.960
a recording in the background, and there's going to be

1055
01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:39.199
a lot of door slamming and stuff like that as well,

1056
01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:42.359
which means this old Vinny here will be barking quite

1057
01:36:42.399 --> 01:36:47.199
a lot. So you know this, I've got a maneuver

1058
01:36:47.319 --> 01:36:50.920
myself around this whole thing. But I would definitely do

1059
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:53.720
a Q and A Friday, even if i'd do it

1060
01:36:53.720 --> 01:37:02.479
in the evening on Friday. But I'll try and do

1061
01:37:02.720 --> 01:37:08.640
normal recordings this week if it's all possible. So thank

1062
01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:13.039
you for listening. Remember to be kind to yourself because

1063
01:37:13.079 --> 01:37:18.159
you do deserve to be happy and be gentle with yourself,

1064
01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:27.520
because you do deserve to feel safe. Lots of love, bye,