Aug. 22, 2025

(music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1419 | Jason Newland | 22nd August 2025

(music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1419 | Jason Newland | 22nd August 2025
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Hello, and welcome to Jasondewland dot com. My name's Jason Newland.

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Please only listen when you can safely closure eyes. And

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this is Q and a Friday. Yees it is Q

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and ee Q and a Q and no Friday. Oh.

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Vinny is on the floor and he is chomping on

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a bony thing. So he's a he's a happy little bunny.

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He's had a good day, he said. We went to

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the pet shop or he calls it the sweet shop,

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a couple of hours ago, and just yeah, I got

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him a few bits and bobs and he's very happy.

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He got to carry one home and he was like

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the proudest little doggie in the whole wide world. It's

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almost like he won the lottery. Couldn't be happier as

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the happiest I'll ever see is when he's doing that.

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So happy.

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Yeah, so yeah, Q and A Friday. I did promise

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that I would.

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Do.

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Oh oh god, I'm trying to go to the page. Okay,

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two hundred and twenty one members. I'm sure I had

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children and twenty two members yesterday. Okay, this is my

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Jason Newland's boring group John. If you want to, if

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you want to. If you don't want to, then don't.

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But if you do want to, then do so let's

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say a Look, I've got a lot of questions to

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get through, so what I'm going to do is ask

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the very first question, which I said I'd promised that

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I would ask first. Okay, yeah, Megan. So I've got

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questions from Ing, Ing, Christine, Meghan, Christine again, Robin, Hillary, Hope, Marry, Julie, Karen,

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and Rich. If for any reason I have missed out anybody,

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then let me know and I'll lead you a question

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for next week. I've tried to kind of get questions

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from different places wherever I've been sent them into one place.

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So starting off with Megan, I hope you're all well, yeah,

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I just had a delivery of all the because I've

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been trying to stock up for the winter like a

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big fat bear that I am, and it's going quite well,

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actually it's quite It feels fairly nice, you know, to

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know that all the stuff is well, not everything I need,

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but a lot of stuff that I need, like soap,

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washing up, liquid, tea bags, toilet roll, wet wipes, toothpaste, soap, deodorant,

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and trying to think what else. That's pretty much it.

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But all that stuff's now, i haven't got to buy

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anymore for the year. For the rest of the years,

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it's all all done, and you know, I can't even

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And I've got a lot of water as.

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Well, so one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nineteen,

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I've probably got about thirty days worth of world water.

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So it's you know, it's it's good.

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I'm pleased with that because I'm trying to just plan ahead,

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you know, because it's it's okay to not have any money.

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It's not okay, but you know, it's one thing not

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having much money. But if I've got what I need,

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then it doesn't matter that much, you know. If all

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I've got to do is just get the very the

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bare basics food wise, you know, I can go and

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get some pasta and some milk, and you know it.

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It's it's just this is what I used to do

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in the past, stock up for like a year ahead,

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and it was nice. I just had it all day

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and I didn't have to think about it. I mean,

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in twenty twenty, I had enough toilet paper because some

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of my listeners sent me toilet paper in I had

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enough toilet paper to last me for about six months,

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maybe a year. Honestly, it was brilliant. Anyway, things make

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a lot of weird, grunty noises. You're okay, You're right, okay,

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always frowning. He's got a permanent frown in his face. Okay. So, Megan,

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I always want to ask a question, but I know

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it will never I never hear the answer because I

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fall asleep within the first ten minutes. Hopefully you get

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to hear the answer for this one, but I'll give

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it a go. He may be nicist before, but if

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you could eat one meal for the rest of your life,

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what would it be? For the record, mine would be

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jack of potato, baked beans, coalslaw, and in an ideal

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world where I was allowed to eat it, loads and

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loads of cheese, and yeah, I'd add my coalslaw and

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beans on the same plate. And it does go before

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anyone tells me otherwise. I hope you're doing okay, Thanks, Megan.

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I hope you are as well. I agree with you

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the last bit. It does go together. Why would why

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would it have to be on a separate plate? Mind you,

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If you go into a restaurant, I say restaurant, I

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mean probably pub pub food, but then sometimes you do

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get the cold slap bey on a little plate on

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its side when they're like a little dish. Yeah. I

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like to mix things up, really, yeah, I like to

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mix things up. I like to mix things up. I'm

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just just checking something here because it's weird.

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But the.

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Hold on a second. Yeah, I just had to check

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something quickly because I thought the microphone wasn't working. But

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it does seem to be so the same meal every day,

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I'd probably go for a roast dinner like a Christmas dinner. Yeah,

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I mean I think if I had to have the

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same thing every day, the same meal every day, I

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probably would get a little bit bored. However, with a

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Christmas dinner, there's quite a lot of different things. So

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if I wasn't, you know, it'd be a big lots

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you know, turnips, turnips, parsnips, rather parsnips, every single vegetable,

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mashed potato, roast potato, Yorkshire puddings.

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Galore, and.

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See, yeah, it'd be a plenty. You know. I could

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kind of if I was in a non roast potato day,

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I could just not eat the roast potatoes, so it'd

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be a big plate and the dessert as well with

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ice cream. So I guess Christmas pudding with ice cream. Yeah,

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I could do that, although I think if I was

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going to have something, i'd probably go more for something

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like an apple pie and ice cream or yeah, something

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like that. Yeah, I think so be I think a

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roast inn. I do like a roast in it, and

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I really have one. But yeah, I think that's what

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I would choose every day this although a roasting is

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not my favorite food, which makes me makes you wonder

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why am I choosing that? But if I choose kind

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of my one of my favorite things, I don't. I

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like pizza, but I don't like eating pizza too often

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because it's a treat. You know, sweet corn and pineapple

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pizza is a treat. If I had it every day,

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I'd get very bored of it very quickly. Even if

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I had it twice a week, that would be too much.

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Once a week, yeah, once a week's okay, on a

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Saturday maybe, though I haven't done that for a bit.

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You used to do that because before I moved there,

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I usual to get a pizza delivered, large pizza for

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ten pounds because they did a discount and it was

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like great, and then they put them up to like

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seventeen pound and now I think it's like twenty five

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pounds to get our pizza delivered like a large pizza.

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I know it's a.

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Ten year period, but blimey blim in neck. So that's

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a big increase, isn't it. So yeah, that's kind of

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I'd like to have a menu. I think if I

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could like have a menu, the same menu for every

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day with lots of different options, that would suit me better.

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But at the same time, I do kind of eat

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the same things every day. So if you was to say,

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what would I have for breakfast every day? Well, I

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do have the same thing for breakfast every day, and

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it's ready break with some dried fruit on top. So

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I have that every single morning, and it's my favorite

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meal of the day. If I'm honest. That's the one

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thing I probably enjoy most because I've gone like, you know,

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eight ten whatever hours about eating and yeah, I enjoy

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that meal.

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It was not a meal, is it, But I enjoy

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that little bit of food.

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Is it food?

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It's ready break food?

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Yeah, hmm. I think that'd be it.

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However, if it was like what.

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I don't know how much I'd enjoy eating it every

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day though. Yeah, I'm going to stick with that. A

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roast dinner, but you know, with lots of guys and

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side plates with stuff, you know, it's like Yorkshire put

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in as minute as I want. Yeah, so it'd be

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a meal, but it'd be on a table. Vinnie, please

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don't bark, please make please don't know. Don't turn your

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head because you're trying to hear more so, I'm trying

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to stop him from barking, and he's listening, but he's

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turned his head now, like with his ears flicked up.

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Don't there's nothing of interest to hear, Vinnie. You've got

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me listening, listen to me and be bored like everyone else.

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Come on, don't need you need to be parking. He's

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been very playful today.

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It's been nice.

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So I hope I answered your question, Megan. I don't

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know if I have, but I hope I have. It's yeah,

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I felt I'm going to go for roast dinner Christmas dinner,

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but without the hat, without the Christmas crackers.

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Yeah, do you know?

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At Christmas? Right, I my three of my family members

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came down to where I lived, my town. It was

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beginning of Chris. It was like, I don't know, second

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first week of December something like that. On a Saturday,

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I couldn't book the place we normally go to, you

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know when we meet out for a cup of coffee

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or whatever. So what I did is because it was

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full up, like Christmas dinners were booked. So I contacted

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the local pub well just up the road, and they

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said and I did it online. They said, yeah, yes,

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it's fine. What do you want to order? And I

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ordered the food, Christmas dinner and everything, expecting when I

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got there that it was going to be full of

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people having the Christmas dinner and it wasn't. It was

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just had a few people in there drinking, and we

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were the only table decorated for Christmas, all the tables

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that are in there, because it's quite a big pub

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with like a restaurant area as well, two restaurant areas actually,

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and I felt very self conscious, I really did. I didn't.

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I don't like, I don't know, being in public, and

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it might as well just have a big sign saying

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look at us, look at us. So I didn't. I

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couldn't relax. I couldn't relax, to be honest, that I

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just couldn't because I was in public and my dad

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insisted on me wearing a Christmas hat because he wanted

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to have picture took.

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I don't mind if it's at home, if it's you know,

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inside a private place, but I don't wear I don't

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want to wear a Christmas hat in public. Just it's

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just my little thing. I just don't. Yeah, it just

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doesn't fit well with me. But at the same time,

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it was still nice to see them, but just it

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wasn't didn't can't kind of go how I was expecting, right,

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inc asks me, do you prefer personal questions or general ones?

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Do you have questions that you didn't answer before because

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they were too personal? Did I have any questions? Well,

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I can't tell you what those questions are, can I

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because they were personal? And I don't mind what kind

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of questions I get. Really, I don't mind. If there's

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one I don't want to answer, then I'll just be

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vague and and I'll just make it a very short question.

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You have very short answer right next, Christine, I'm joking. So, yeah,

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I'm trying to think of any personal questions that I

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wasn't able to ask the answer other I don't. I

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can't think of any offhand. There's been some questions put

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to me that were worded very very unusual, and I

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didn't quite understand.

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Really what the where the.

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Question was coming from. That that's quite rare. It's just

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my lack of not really getting what the question was. No,

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not really, I don't think there's been anything. Bearing in mind,

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I talk about my personal life and my personal thoughts,

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and I talk about bipolar and I talk about all

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my little bits and stuff that's going on in my life.

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All very boring stuff, of course, but I'm fairly open

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with what's going on. So yeah, I'm it's yeah, I'm

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okay with any questions. If this one I don't want

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to answer, I just won't answer it, to be honest

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with you. If it's if the something that, but I

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haven't really had anything like that. No one's just come

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out and asked me a rude question. So it's but

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then I wouldn't expect that because this is my Facebook group,

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and I wouldn't expect someone on this group to be

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having a go at me. I'd like to think they wouldn't.

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Please don't just love me, please love me? So yeah,

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I can't think of anything that I didn't answer. I

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think my brothers is a bit of a touchy subject,

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to be fair, like family stuff. I don't really I know.

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I've talked about my dad a little bit, talked about

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my stepmums, but I don't really go into any kind

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of detail, and I don't go into detail about my

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family or that dog that's by I can bless him.

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The councilors started working on the flat downstairs, so I'm

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sure I heard someone shout out, what's all this pain

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doing everywhere? Because someone's like sprayed paint all in that

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hallway and stuff.

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I don't know why, bless him?

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And oh yeah, the uncle sausages funerals next Thursday. So

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that's all gone ahead now. So it's definitely going to

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go ahead because we managed to find the correct information.

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So yeah, it's definitely going ahead on Thursday, next Thursday,

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so I possibly won't be making a recording that day,

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and I've got to find a way to get out

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of bed on that morning.

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I don't know how.

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The twenty eighth, so it's two days after my birthday, Yeah,

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fifty five years old on Tuesday, this coming Tuesday, fifty

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five fifty five. Even if you say it quick, it

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still sounds old. Fifty five still sounds old. Ah. So

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Christine asked me, does the chippy van still come to

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your flats? Yeah? I mean it doesn't come directly to

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where I live, but it comes like in the local area.

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And Uncle Sausages was their most regular customer for years

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and years and years. They even used to buy him

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Christmas presents. Seriously that Christmas said, actually buy him when

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they bought a box of chocolates last year. He's a regular,

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so they know that they can come here every single

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week the year and it won't be a wasted journey.

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I mean, they've got lots of stops along the way

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and then a lot of stops probably afterwards as well.

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But he's always there.

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He's you know, sometimes I had to kind of let

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him know that because he wasn't hearing the truck anymore.

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He was getting the van, so but I used to

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kind of let him know. But that's only like more recently,

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like the last six months or so. Before that, he.

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Was always he go out there and just wait.

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So yeah, still still there. I saw them. The thing is,

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the last two weeks I've wanted to go down there

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and tell them I just couldn't face it. To be honest,

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I couldn't face going down there and just yeah, I

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couldn't face it. Last Thursday and last night, I think

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it was couldn't face couldn't, just couldn't. I need to

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and I really do need to, because you know, they

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really liked him and he liked them, and they just

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they talk about sport, and cricket was the main thing

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that they discussed because I think they're from I think

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they were. They supported Pakistan and Uncle's Sausages supported Northern Ireland,

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but he also kind of supported England as well, if

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you know, if Northern Island weren't playing. And but he

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liked everyone. He liked all teams, whether it was Australia,

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where whoever, South Africa. He just was a big cricket fan.

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But it was also a huge I don't think it

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was not all sports, but definitely most of the sports.

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That are big in this country.

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So football is his main thing, and then you've got rugby, cricket,

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badminton probably not, I don't think. So what's the other one?

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Golf?

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He never mentioned racing, car driving, so like f one,

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So I don't think Formula one.

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Isn't it.

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It's such a long word to say Formula one. No,

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f one. It's too much effort to say formula So

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he never mentioned liking that, but that I don't know

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football football?

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Is it boxing?

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He kind of He was mildly interested if it was

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someone from Northern Ireland because that was where he was from.

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That's where he was born. He told me he was born.

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He told me he was Scottish. Yeah, and I thought

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by that he meant he was born in Scotland. He wasn't.

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He was born in Northern Ireland. His parents were Scottish

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or one of his parents are Scottish, so he still

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armed Scottish. It's like, well yeah, yeah, and no. I

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mean both my NaN's parents are Irish, so that makes

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her Irish, doesn't it it. All of her ancestors, probably

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going back thousands of years or Irish. There's a good

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chance you could really say she's Irish because both her

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parents are Irish. However, she was born in London, so

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she was always in English as well. Whether or not

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she had a dual passport on nationality, I don't know,

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but I don't really know how it all works. But

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she was English or British as well and Irish. But

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it was weird because I found his passport, not his

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passport is yeah, I found his passports. I had to

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find that, but that was when he was in hospital.

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He asked me to do that, and then his next

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to kin asked me to find if I could his

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birth certificate. I took a lot of finding, but I

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did in the end, and there was just a replace

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for a birth certificate that he got about twenty five

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years ago, and it says on there that he was

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born in Northern Ireland, wasn't born in Scotland. It's like,

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why did you today? He was sticking to it. I'm Scottish, Okay,

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do you have so? Yeah, the chippy van does still come.

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I try not to go down there because you know what,

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one sausage costs about three pound. It's a big sausage,

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but still three pound. And I can get like a

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whole pack of sausages I can cook. Not that I

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generally much of a like a cook, but just three

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pounds for sausage just seems like a lot. Maybe I'm

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behind the times. It seems like a lot of money

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for just a sausage three pound can I say one

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more time? It just seems it seems like a lot.

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That's it. That's all I got to say. And Christine,

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I'm getting through these quite quickly. And I Christine asks,

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have you ever tried ventil liquism, as you're very funny

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and good with dual dialogue. Well, thank you very much, Christine.

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I do actually have a ventilquistal that's the weird one

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in it. It's true. And I did do a video

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on YouTube a yeares ago, ages and ages ago. But

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I did have Vinnie at the time, and Finnie did

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not like it. So I don't know if i'd had

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how long i'd had Vinnie four at this point.

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So I ordered this thing off of.

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I guess probably Amazon, and so I'm doing. I'll tell

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you all I was found strange is if you're not

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resting your arm or anything, it does take its toll

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on your arm holding this thing up all the time

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and just loving your hands and stuff. I don't remember

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the videos on there. It was let Me boy You

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to Sleep video. It's on YouTube somewhere. I should try

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and find it. I just try and find it. I

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don't even know if it'll be on here YouTube YouTube,

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because there'll be a picture of me on there if

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I put in search. Let me bore you to sleep,

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let me boil you to sleep, just skipping down. There's

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too many, there's way too many. I'm like, yeah, take

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me quite a while to try and find that. At

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the moment, I every single new recording I do gets

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released onto YouTube as part of my podcast, so all

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six versions get uploaded, and.

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This two. There's way too many.

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It's yeah, yeah, it's I don't think I'm going to

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be like this will take There's probably a quicker way

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to find it than the way I've chosen, because it's

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it might have been a live one. No, I don't

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think I did it. It might have been. I don't

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think I did, though, but it might have been. I'm

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just looking. I'm looking, and I'm looking. I'm looking, looking looking,

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dibdy do dibd d look in I'm looking. No, anyway,

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it's definitely it's one where I'm actually on the camera

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with Vinnie for part of it, and the dolly that

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the doll vent oloquis doll. There's too many. I've made

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too many recordings. It's very difficult to find stuff, very difficult. Indeed, ooh,

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look at this number seven hundred and twenty nine Let

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Me Boy to Sleep Live stream eighteenth September twoy twenty one.

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So I'm now double that amount of recordings. So it's

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now fourteen one hundred and something. So well that's cat

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one view successful. Yeah. No, it's got to be somewhere.

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It's got to be.

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It's just gotta be a Oh I found it. It's

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called Shout Out Welcome to get Sleepy. Hello, man, welcome to.

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Right.

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I found out I was played the first little bit here.

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Sleep.

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My name is Jason.

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Land and this is a it sounds like me, doesn't it?

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Podcast to help you too?

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Right? So this podcast episode is called shout Out to

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Tammy Let Me Boys Sleep. It's number one and eighteen

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and it was like the seventeenth of July twenty twenty three,

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and it's me with a ventiloquis. Dummy. Now, what I

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got try and do is do it? How can I

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do the mute? If you want to sleep?

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What else?

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I listen watch this video video when you can say, right,

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the volume's not working, so I'm gonna just turn it off. Whoops,

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So I'm back to where was So, yeah, that was

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the one that I've done one before. I don't know

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if I actually did ventolyquism and on a podcast, it

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would be kind of weird because I was like saying,

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I'd like you to introduce you to Willy fit Willy,

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the my friend knew, my new friend Willy. Say hello, Willy,

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So how are you getting on today? Oh? Really? Her?

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Oh I know, I do what he just said. The

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thing is, you can't see me, So why am I?

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Why am I? I might as well just talk? Then

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it's not a ventual equism, is it? Then it? You know?

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I mean I can pretend I've got something my hand

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inside something. Okna't phrase that I could. I couldretend that

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I've got like a Ventiloquist doll here, but you wouldn't

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know if I have or.

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Not, because it's it's not.

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You can't see me. I did. I wanted to be

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a ventilquist. I cannot not like full on, you know,

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not in a way that I wanted to be a

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kung fu expert and a cloudy man and a singer

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and all the things that I wanted to do when

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I was younger. But I thought it'd be fun because

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I grew up and there was quite a few ventiloquists

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around when I was a kid on TV, like Keith

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Harris with Aorville and Cuddles. There was Spit the Dog.

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There was City and Sweep. I mean yeah, there there

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were puppets. There was the Muppet Show, and there was

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things uh burder b. I'm trying to think of others.

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But there was a few em you that was and yes,

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there was quite a few different ones when I was

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a kid. And Orville, well, yeah, Orville was my favorite,

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but I did like the monkey as well, so like

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that he had the monkey and Orvil. He had different characters,

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but Orvil and what was his name?

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The monkey?

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He kept saying, I hit La Doc, I hit La Doc,

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and all, oh, I love you.

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I did a voice.

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I had a number one hit. I think I.

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Wish I could fly right up to the sky, but

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I can't.

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You can. I can't.

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I wish I could do the things that the other

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birds do.

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You can?

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I can't look over fool? Who is your very best friend?

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You are?

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I want to help you mend your broken heart? Now

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listen to me, o phil oh.

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Phel Yeah, who is your very best friends?

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Staring at me? I want to help your men.

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You are what I told you you are.

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I want to.

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Help you mend your broken heart. I realized that he

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got He came himself more versus in that song than

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he gave Orville, didn't he. I mean Orville's only real

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verse was like, I wish I.

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Could fly around the top ten a scab, but a cat,

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wish I could do the things that the other birds do,

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but a count. And then the other bits is like

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you are.

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You are, and that's it. Mind you did do He

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sung with Keith Harris. No, he wouldn't have sung with

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Keith Harris because that would be impossible, isn't it Now?

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00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:51.320
He sung a little bit of someone part of the sentence, Yeah,

477
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.480
anyway that I kind of wanted to do. I'd tell

478
00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:01.360
you who was my biggest my biggest, biggest influence as

479
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:06.920
a kid, like quite a young kid comedy wise, and

480
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:12.719
that was Kenny Everett. I loved Kenny Everett and he

481
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:17.639
was hilarious and I think he still is hilarious. I

482
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:21.320
mean he's no longer with us, but he was funny,

483
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:31.039
just wacky and he Yeah, it's really, my personal opinion,

484
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:38.159
one of the greatest comedy shows, Like on a Saturday

485
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.159
evening kind of comedy show because it was so irreverent, irreverend,

486
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:43.119
is that the right word.

487
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:44.519
It was so out there.

488
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:53.320
I don't know. It was just it was great, really great.

489
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.559
And he was so funny. And I used to he

490
00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:00.280
had all these characters, and I kind of learned whole

491
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:05.519
his whole thing. And I used to do do I

492
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.320
think me and my brother we used to do entertaining

493
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.079
each other on the beach in the summer, and we'd

494
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.599
do the characters, or perhaps I'd do it to complete

495
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:17.239
strangers if they were stuck in the sand or something,

496
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:19.079
if someone who buried them in the sand. I think,

497
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.920
all captive audience, and I'll be going and.

498
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.760
Done at the best possible taste.

499
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.679
Or it should's not here and other characters.

500
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.760
Yeah, I loved, loved, loved, loved, loved, loved.

501
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.519
I would have liked to have met him.

502
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:39.159
He would so.

503
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:44.239
He was a comedy hero of mine. And he wasn't

504
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:48.239
a stand up comedian. He was a DJ, but he

505
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:51.760
had the funny jingles. I used to listen to him.

506
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.360
So I listened to him when I was a little kid.

507
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.840
I don't know, eight, nine, ten, I don't know what years,

508
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:02.000
what kind of period it was, And then when I

509
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.559
was in my early twenties, I used to listen to

510
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.920
him on Radio two. I think it might have been

511
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:13.199
because we had a radio one all the time and

512
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.639
we used to listen to that. It might have been.

513
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.519
It might have been Radio Gold or Capital Gold, but anyway,

514
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.719
very funny and he had all these jingles that were funny,

515
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:30.719
and he was just so creative with the whole thing.

516
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:39.440
So yeah, my top my favorite DJ of all time. Yeah,

517
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:47.360
him my favorite comedy show. Not my favorite comedy show,

518
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.920
I'd be wrong to say that, but it's the one

519
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:55.840
that I probably enjoyed the most watching would be Kenny

520
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:58.960
of It because it was just so funny. I just

521
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:06.360
I thought it's hilarious. Now, Christine, that.

522
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:07.800
Is not the question you asked.

523
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.440
I've answered a different question that's not been asked, which

524
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:17.360
will happen occasionally, as anyone that listens to me will know.

525
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:23.920
But i'd tear it sometimes. I quite enjoyed doing the

526
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.480
duel dialogue thing, and but I just do it when

527
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:32.360
it comes, you know, when it just when it's organic

528
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.440
and it just comes from nowhere and I don't know

529
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.280
it's going to happen, and it just happens, and I

530
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.280
just I just go along with it. And sometimes it

531
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.480
goes on for ages and ages and ages. Other times

532
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.039
this is very short, and I've done nearly like I've

533
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.960
done a whole recordings in the past, that being practically

534
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.800
a duel dialogue, just like a conversation for the whole

535
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.320
thing between two people that aren't even there, you know,

536
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:10.639
and it goes off into a different it's a different dimension.

537
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:19.000
It's very strange. However, however, I was at a wedding.

538
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.000
I mightn't wonder why I'm going with this. I was

539
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:23.760
at a wedding. What's the wedding? You got to do

540
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:28.039
with this? Well, if you listen, you'll find out. I

541
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:29.960
was at a wedding, a family wedding. I think it

542
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:35.519
was my I don't know, it was someone's wedding. And

543
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:43.880
it's probably about eight years ago, maybe nine years ago. Yes,

544
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.480
it's quite a long time ago, maybe ten years, quite

545
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:52.079
a long time ago. And my dad was drunk. Now,

546
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:58.760
my dad's really nice drunk like, he's the most chilled out,

547
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:03.599
relaxed he drunk that there is. And I've only ever

548
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:08.079
seen him drunk probably three or four times, and a

549
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.519
whole time i've known him, really, it just never really

550
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.400
he doesn't get it, doesn't really drink to excess. I

551
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.159
think he just paces it throughout the day. But yeah,

552
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.280
it doesn't. I've not seen him drunk very often. He

553
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:30.119
did get He got drunk one Christmas. This was probably

554
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.679
when I was in my twenties, maybe my thirties. But

555
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.599
he just overdid it a little bit and he had

556
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.400
a bit too much to drink before dinner and he

557
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.599
ended up having to go to bed. But it was

558
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:45.599
up a few hours later and everything's fine. It's just

559
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:48.599
it just it just overdid it a little bit. Because

560
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:58.559
he is mister Christmas. He absolutely loves Christmas. It's yeah,

561
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:03.079
in some ways he turns into Father Christmas or Santa

562
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.760
Claus when he's drunk, like whatever time of the year

563
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:16.760
is it is, he's he's kind of that jovial, happy kind.

564
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:18.559
I don't know how to explain.

565
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.920
It's just really, you know, so he's I want to.

566
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:26.960
Say, good drunk. He's not drunk, hasn't fallen over, but

567
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:37.599
just you know, but drunk. You know. Anyway, he was

568
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:41.280
sitting on it at the bar. So this was after

569
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:45.719
all the wedding stuff and all the free food, which

570
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:50.639
is why I went, and we were at the bar.

571
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:55.480
I was drinking. Bearing in mind I don't really drink

572
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:00.599
anymore since I moved here, I stopped drinking regularly. So

573
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.880
ten years ago I still had my weekend lagers, and

574
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:12.679
then probably within a year of being here, I wasn't

575
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:16.559
hardly drinking anything. It just I got bored of them.

576
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:20.039
I didn't. Maybe it's because I suddenly had a bit

577
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:26.960
of space of my own. I'd work towards getting this place. Well,

578
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:32.039
you know, I didn't need that. I didn't need it anymore.

579
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.440
Not perhaps I don't know if I ever needed it, but.

580
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:37.400
I did.

581
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:41.239
I felt I did. It was in the past. It

582
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:47.480
was definitely self medication, but just prior to moving in here,

583
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:53.719
I was it was pretty much only weekends at that point,

584
00:45:54.559 --> 00:46:02.079
wasn't every day, and then it turned into never. And

585
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:07.119
I really I don't haven't drunk alcohol on any kind

586
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:11.480
of regular basis for about nine years. So when I

587
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:16.119
go to a hot like an event like a wedding,

588
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:29.000
and I've been to one, two, maybe three weddings since

589
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:39.239
I moved in here, maybe two maybe three, and that's

590
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:41.800
the one event I seem to not be able to

591
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:47.719
do without drinking. It's like a mixture is too many people.

592
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.880
It's a little bit of emotional because you know, I

593
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:58.760
don't know. It brings up emotions, I suppose, and alcohol

594
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.679
is the only thing that seems to get me through it.

595
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.679
But it's very rare because I don't go to many weddings.

596
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.360
You know, there's two in the last ten years or three,

597
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.800
and before that I can't even remember. I mean, I

598
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.280
got invited to be invited to weddings I've not gone

599
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.719
to just because I don't really I don't really like

600
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:26.639
them really, too many, too.

601
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.199
Many people, too many people.

602
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:37.880
And funerals. Never drink at I know, I know better

603
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.440
than that. I would not drink alcol at a funeral.

604
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:48.400
So that's something that I've kind of definitely know about myself.

605
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:49.760
So that's that's good.

606
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.519
It's good to it's good to have a little bit

607
00:47:52.559 --> 00:48:01.119
of self awareness. I suppose. Why am I talking about this?

608
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:06.079
Oh yeah, my dad said the wedding, my dad was

609
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:10.199
sitting on a bar stool at the bar. Me and

610
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.480
my little brother walk up to him because we're just chatting,

611
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:13.280
and we walk.

612
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.039
Up to him and.

613
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:22.639
He's he's on the phone, so he puts the phone

614
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:26.039
to his ear and he starts talking and he's having

615
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:31.079
this conversation and he said, a wait a minute to us,

616
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:36.480
and he's talking and it's the weirdest conversation ever, and

617
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.400
it's very funny as well. So you can only hear

618
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:45.119
his side of the dialogue, and it goes.

619
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:46.199
On for about ten minutes.

620
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.920
So me and my brother are laughing at some of

621
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:54.679
the stuff he's saying, and my brother takes the phone

622
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:56.519
out of his hand. He said, there's no one there.

623
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.639
So my dad was just making up a conversation on

624
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:07.239
the spot, just to entertain us or maybe to entertain

625
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:14.400
himself as well. And it's like, okay, that's interesting because

626
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.800
that is something that I tend to be able to

627
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:21.000
do as well. I'm not saying that it's a special gift,

628
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:27.679
special gift. I'm sure everyone could do it. But I

629
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:32.559
remember years ago, like when I first started doing these

630
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:35.920
type of recordings, I did used to call them let

631
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.719
me boy to Sleep. I used to call them what did?

632
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.840
I used to call them thinking out loud or pretending

633
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.239
to think that was another one. I used to call

634
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:51.360
them pretending to think that's good. And I had a

635
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.719
lot of different I had a few different versions of

636
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.960
this before I did this, going back, you know, thirteen fifteen,

637
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:06.480
sixteen years and I had a friend that told me

638
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:11.679
that I needed psychiatric help because I was doing this

639
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:17.440
like stream of consciousness conversation going on and he thought

640
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.440
I was ill, when actually I was just having a

641
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:27.360
bit of fun. Bless him or her, whoever it might be.

642
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.280
So no, I've never tried ventiloquism, not in front of

643
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:40.199
an audience, although I do think I might have gone

644
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:44.079
on stage with a ventiloquist doll once and just had

645
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.840
it in my arm and ignored it and just did

646
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.480
my act because I thought that would be funny thing

647
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:51.800
to do.

648
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:55.000
I actually.

649
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:58.639
One of my first ever gigs, it might be my

650
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:04.480
first gig. I was at the Comedy Comedy Club and

651
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.000
had a new act night and it's one of my

652
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:12.079
first gigs I'd ever done in London. So I go

653
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:18.840
on stage. I had a piece of paper with some jokes,

654
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.280
none of which I don't think got to laugh, but anyway,

655
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:28.000
it was still you know something, and this I did

656
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.079
get a laugh from what I did here is I

657
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:32.920
picked something out of the audience. I said, are you

658
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.960
okay to come on stage? And a big hefty bloke

659
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:40.000
gets on stage. What your name, he said, said, and

660
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.480
I said, oh, I'm Jason. Hi. I said, if you

661
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:44.480
just stand there, please just hold this piece of paper,

662
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.800
and then I ignored him for the next five minutes

663
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:55.639
and he's laughing his head off, and the audience are laughing,

664
00:51:56.159 --> 00:52:01.559
not at me, but at him. So technically it was

665
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.559
quite a good gig, but it wasn't due to me.

666
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.079
It was due to him. I didn't realize he was

667
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:11.239
also a comedian as well, and we became good friends

668
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.960
after that because he was What was weird is he

669
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:20.440
was on right after me, which I didn't know. This

670
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.480
is the first time I'd been in that club, so

671
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.519
I didn't know anybody. I mean, I can't believe he

672
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.280
got on stage. You know, the fact he was sitting

673
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:34.119
in the front row just before he gets on stage.

674
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:36.199
I could never do that. I'd have to be at

675
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.159
the bar, pacing or something. He was so chilled down

676
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:42.320
and relaxed, and then he went on and got his

677
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.079
own gigs, started his own comedy clubs, and he always

678
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:50.480
gave me work, whether paid or unpaid. He'd always always

679
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.920
get me on the stage because he liked my act.

680
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:56.920
He liked me as well, but he liked my act.

681
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:01.360
He thought it was funny. The only person in London

682
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:04.239
that thought I was funny. But hey, at least one

683
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:04.800
person did.

684
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:08.719
He Ae.

685
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.920
Robin asks, how do you like your beans on toast?

686
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:23.280
Traditional or with additional toppings? Hmmm, I don't have beans

687
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:26.760
on toast very often, although I've just been going through

688
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.920
all the stuff that I've got storing up, and I've

689
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.079
got a load of dog food that I put into

690
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:40.400
two cupboards and some treats or one the dog foods

691
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.719
on one shelf, the treats on another shelf, and on

692
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.559
the other shelf of this cupboard is tins of baked beans.

693
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.679
So I have been thinking of beans just for that

694
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.719
period of time. But yeah, beans were definitely in my

695
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:59.360
mind at some point for a few seconds today. Tamar

696
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:03.920
to catch is quite a nice little addition, I think

697
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:12.360
to beans on toast. Cheese is a nice addition. What

698
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:16.480
I used to do in the nineties, I used to

699
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:24.519
put a toast underneath the grill, Yeah, the toast underneath

700
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:29.679
the grill, and then I'd do cheese on toast, and

701
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:36.800
then I would heat up the beans, put some cheese

702
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:40.440
in with the beans as well. Melted and then pour

703
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.360
that on top of the beans on toast.

704
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:43.199
The cheese.

705
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:49.239
So cheese on toast with beans. So bean on toast. Yeah,

706
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:53.840
cheese on toast with beans and cheese. So that's kind

707
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.719
of beans on toast, but with two lots of cheese.

708
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.760
Sometimes I would add something like some fish fingers, so

709
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.320
cheese on toast, fish fingers on top of the toast,

710
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:13.760
and then the beans with some cheese and maybe some

711
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:22.159
tomato ketchup on top and a pint of milk. And

712
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.360
that was something that i'd have fairly regularly, you know.

713
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.719
Various different.

714
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.440
Types of kind of that. It would be different things.

715
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:43.199
Sometimes it'd be no fish fingers, sometimes it would be yes.

716
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:48.079
Sometimes I'd do it with sweet corn. So cheese on

717
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:53.199
toast with fish fingers and then sweet corn on top.

718
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:58.320
Now I realized that's not answering the question about how

719
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:01.519
do I like my beans on toast? Because you didn't

720
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:05.079
say sweet corn on toast, did you? And sweet corn

721
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:09.280
on toast might sound like a weird thing, but actually,

722
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:13.960
if you've got some cheese and something else on them

723
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:20.679
as well, sweet orn not not like a big tube thing,

724
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:23.960
you know how it's grown, but you know, individual sweet

725
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:35.320
on pieces. Mm hmm, can be quite quite yummy. I

726
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:41.760
wouldn't go for brown sauce. Definitely tomato sauce if.

727
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.719
I had to choose. Not really a big.

728
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:49.880
Brown sauce eater gives me a little bit of it's

729
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.760
a little bit too spicy, a little bit too or

730
00:56:53.480 --> 00:57:00.760
for me. Hillary asks, can you listen to the song

731
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:10.880
save My jelly Roll and critique it? Not what I'm

732
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:11.960
doing the podcast?

733
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:14.000
Is it your song?

734
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:18.000
Hillary? I love I'll try to have a little look

735
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:25.039
at listen to it another time. But maybe I'm just

736
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:29.039
wondering what it's about now? Is it a weird Let

737
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:30.840
me just have a look. I'm what I'm going to

738
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:35.239
do if I can. What's it called save Me by

739
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:53.239
jelly Roll? I'm going to get the lyrics? Lyrics right?

740
00:57:53.960 --> 00:58:05.360
Song by jelly Roll twenty twenty mhm uh all right.

741
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.159
I thought it was going to be a funny I

742
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.000
suppose jelly Roll. I thought it was going to be

743
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:12.199
like a funny song, but it's not, is it?

744
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:22.559
Okay? Okay?

745
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:34.760
Right, yeah, I'm just reading it through. I'm not going

746
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:35.199
to read it.

747
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:59.039
Out loud, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I'm reading the lyrics

748
00:58:59.079 --> 00:58:59.920
and the good lyrics.

749
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:11.440
I've been a little bit depressed now though, but thanks.

750
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:14.440
It's a heavy, heavy lyrics. I've not I've not heard

751
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:19.960
the song, but yeah, it's from the Looks, so it's

752
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:25.039
quite a powerful song, and I can relate to some

753
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:29.519
of what I saw there. I'll actually have a The

754
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.880
thing is, sometimes I like a song and I don't

755
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:38.960
know what the lyrics are. You know, I remember this

756
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.880
one song years ago, the late nineties, and I'll be

757
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.440
singing it and I'll be doing the washing up. So

758
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.760
it's Christmas dinner. I'd be like doing the washing up

759
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.320
in the kitchen after dinner, and my stepmom would be

760
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.480
there putting stuff away, and my sister would be put

761
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.440
there putting stuff away in the kitchen, and my dad

762
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.440
would be like maybe getting some stuff out of the fridge.

763
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:06.519
And I'm I'm hard dancing in doing a washing up,

764
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:10.039
shouting like singing. Everybody needs a boosom for a pillow.

765
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:14.039
Everybody needs a bosom. Everybody needs a bosom for a pillow.

766
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:19.000
Everybody needs a bosom burning forty five and I didn't

767
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.199
even realize what they're looking at me, Like, what do

768
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:26.079
you mean? Everyone needs a bosom for a pillow and like, Okay,

769
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:30.960
I wasn't realizing what I was actually singing. I just

770
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:34.119
like the tune. I liked the beat. I like the

771
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:36.199
did a do do do Do Do Do Do Do

772
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:38.639
Do Do Do Do Do Do do do did a

773
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:40.840
do do do do? You know it could be it

774
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.599
could it could be saying anything wouldn't bother me.

775
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:46.599
And I got this memory.

776
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:53.159
And it still tickles me a little bit because and

777
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:56.960
this is about nineteen eighty four. I would say about

778
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:03.599
nineteen eighty four, Frankie Goes to Hollywood was the biggest

779
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:10.880
band possibly in the Western world at this time. They

780
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:14.000
and they were banned. They banned. They were a band

781
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:18.880
that was banned, and being banned put them to number one.

782
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.559
But it wasn't just that they were actually really good.

783
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:28.039
Their songs, the songs that they like relax, two Tribes,

784
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:36.559
the Power of Love, and Beyond the thunder Dome was

785
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:42.239
that the other one. So there's four really really good songs,

786
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.280
really great songs that they did. I don't know what

787
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.880
else they did, but that's that's my memory of that. Wow,

788
01:01:53.079 --> 01:02:00.760
the song Relaxed, bearing in mind, it was banned, the

789
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:05.960
video was banned, the song was banned from radio one

790
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:11.639
so and also better. Mama's stepmom was only probably twenty

791
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:17.039
seven at the time, maybe twenty eight, since she wasn't old,

792
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:20.800
so I thought she'd be aware of what the song

793
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.400
was about. But I don't know she was because she

794
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:27.400
was dancing to it in the kitchen and seeing the

795
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.599
words because they were playing it on I think it

796
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:38.280
was it was one of those illegal radio channels where

797
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.679
they had ships out in the sea and they used

798
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:44.480
to do used to call them pirate radios, so everyone

799
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.559
used to listen to them. It wasn't illegal to listen

800
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:49.400
to him. It's just illegal for the people to do

801
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:54.239
it because they were competing with channels that were paying

802
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:55.519
for licenses and stuff.

803
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:57.719
I guess, like, I don't know who.

804
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:03.159
I just remember so as you're dancing, relax, don't do

805
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:07.599
it when you want it, I think, okay, And it

806
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:11.800
was weird, like and then she's like just when it

807
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:16.480
came to the when you wanna that bit, and I

808
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:19.280
had to leave the room laughing because it's like, this

809
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:29.000
is you're not are you No? I don't want to

810
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:33.039
see my mum dance into that song. It's just weird.

811
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:38.840
It was just very strange. But still a great song,

812
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.239
though it's not my favorite one out of their songs.

813
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.760
I think the power of love, the power of love,

814
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:52.079
of the power of love, when you wanna c man

815
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:56.840
and then two Tribes didn't that get banned as well?

816
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.239
And that was good. I mean that, you know what,

817
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:07.079
if anything, because they had the two leaders of two

818
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:12.199
particular countries settling their differences.

819
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:16.920
One on one, man on man.

820
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:22.880
The in the dirt with having like a fistfight or

821
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:29.960
wrestle or whatever. And I don't know, I just always

822
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:39.639
found that quite funny. So I'll have a little listen

823
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:42.719
to that song, Hillary, But the words, the lyrics definitely

824
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:47.480
got some powerful lyrics there. Hope asks me top five

825
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:59.760
favorite animals and why oh oh, okay, okay, top five

826
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:01.360
animals and.

827
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:09.719
Why I'm gonna have to go with.

828
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:18.920
A dog and a ferret because of Andre and Vinnie,

829
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:22.800
so I can't not go there. I can't go with them.

830
01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:30.000
Two Before I had either Andre Orreddy my favorite animal,

831
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:41.519
I would say it would be a penguin and monkeys.

832
01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:46.199
Little monkeys. Love little monkeys. I just think they're funny.

833
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:51.360
So yeah, a little monkey, not chimpanzee. That's going to

834
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:53.960
get big and strong, just the little ones that stay

835
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:57.320
little the whole time. Yeah, I like them. So that's

836
01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:13.280
that's four. I like elephants because they seem to be

837
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:17.039
very peaceful, peaceful animals.

838
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:25.760
Yeah, very peaceful. I like elephants.

839
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.719
I mean they've got they've definitely got a reason to

840
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:33.840
feel fairly safe haven because of how their size, and

841
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:38.480
they really as long as they stick together once they're adults,

842
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:40.719
they don't really have much in a way of prey.

843
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:45.519
But the.

844
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:49.639
I don't know, I just they just seem to be peaceful.

845
01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:57.519
Like wise animals and whales as six. So top, my

846
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:06.599
top one would have been a penguin, but then probably

847
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:09.920
you know, if you'd have asked me that question three

848
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:13.519
years ago, four years ago, I would have said a

849
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:20.599
ferret because I had hoary. But you know, as far

850
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:24.320
as top favorite animals, the first one's got to be

851
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:27.920
little Vinny. So I say little Jack Russell, little doggie.

852
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:33.760
No matter how annoying he is at times, he's he's

853
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:38.519
my little boy. And ifing shut up, go away, no

854
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:49.559
stop it. Yeah, that's it. I think I like peaceful animals.

855
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:55.079
I quite like foxes. I know they're not everyone's favorite

856
01:07:55.119 --> 01:08:00.119
cup of tea but I saw of fox the very

857
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:04.440
first night I took well. I went to hospital with

858
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:10.639
Uncle Sausages, and he was in the accident emergency in

859
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:12.960
a bed, so he was already kind of in a

860
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.560
war down there, and the nurse told me that I

861
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.439
might as well go home because he wasn't going to

862
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:23.560
see a doctor or get anything. It had a scan,

863
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.800
but he wasn't going to get the results until the

864
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.439
next day. So this is on a Friday night, about

865
01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:35.119
seven weeks ago something like that. I lose track of time. Now,

866
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:41.119
maybe it was eight weeks ago and it was the

867
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:44.960
end of May. It was the end of June. Yeah,

868
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:47.520
it was the end of June. We hadn't got into

869
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:55.439
July yet, I don't think. And so I left about

870
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:58.960
three o'clock three point thirty, ordered a taxi, and his

871
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:00.000
fox came out.

872
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:01.319
I've actually got a video of it.

873
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.760
I did post it on Facebook, I think, and he

874
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:06.399
was just looking at me. So I gave him a

875
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:12.920
biscuit and he grabbed a biscuit and ran off. But

876
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:19.359
very yeah, just it was surreal, because the whole event

877
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:26.399
was surreal, going from just a normal day to ambulance

878
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:29.680
and going to hospital in the back of an ambulance

879
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:34.760
with him and all of the chaos of being in

880
01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:42.600
that environment and then suddenly walking out and it was

881
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:47.560
so peaceful. There was no one around at three o'clock

882
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:48.000
in the morning.

883
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:48.359
There was a.

884
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:51.079
Policeman there and he was watching a fox as well.

885
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:54.159
I didn't even know who's there.

886
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:57.560
I was like, I'm chucking. I'm chucking bits of biscuit

887
01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:00.439
and stuff on the floor and I realized, I hope

888
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:04.319
I've not broken the law. And he said, it's fine,

889
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:09.960
just put your pants back on. And so it was

890
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:18.520
so peaceful though, so peaceful, really calm, and to see

891
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:23.279
this fox there, there's almost like no sound, very bright though,

892
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:31.640
because the lights everywhere very quiet, and I hadn't It's

893
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:34.319
almost I'd forgotten what it was like. I've forgotten what

894
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:37.760
peace was like for a little while because in the

895
01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:43.000
accident emergency it's so noisy because it's just I mean,

896
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:46.359
there's little like thirty nurses and doctors all rushing around

897
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:50.399
and like it's very busy.

898
01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:53.319
It was weird how calm it was.

899
01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:01.279
Mary asked me, do you think now that Luke and

900
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:05.720
your and uncle sausages are passed, that you'll move? He said,

901
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.119
often you'd like to, and was wondering if you'd go

902
01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:13.439
to a for a house exchange closer to the facilities

903
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:17.760
of a town or near your dad. PS. Your dad

904
01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:19.640
must have really loved you in your brothers, as he

905
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:21.760
never gave up until he got you all back home.

906
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:26.640
I read that actually before that was that maybe tingle

907
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:32.039
a little bit with emotion, because yeah, I didn't appreciate it.

908
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:35.760
I probably did appreciate it.

909
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:40.560
To be fair, I probably didn't appreciate what he did

910
01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:43.439
when I was an older kid and in my twenties,

911
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:48.520
maybe in my thirties, maybe even in my forties, But

912
01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:52.560
at the time when he was coming and taking us back,

913
01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:55.399
taking us away from there, and when he eventually took

914
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:59.600
us away from there for good. No one in the

915
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.399
world can tell me that I did not appreciate what

916
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:07.000
he and my new mum had done, Because I did.

917
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:11.359
I might not have told them that I appreciated it.

918
01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:14.840
I probably didn't know how to express that in the

919
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:17.199
correct way could bear in my mind. I was seven

920
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:22.119
years old, But I did appreciate it, and maybe I

921
01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:25.840
haven't appreciated it in a way I have. I thanked

922
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:28.960
him by the way I have more recently the last

923
01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:31.239
year or so. I thanked him, so, thank you for

924
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:32.520
saving me from the children's time.

925
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:36.880
But he's so.

926
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:43.319
He won't get into emotional conversations, so he won't. He's like, okay,

927
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:48.680
that my son is you know it's but I know

928
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:52.119
he's heard. Well, I hope he's heard me. And I

929
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:57.439
do appreciate it because in reality, no matter how badly

930
01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:01.680
I've done as a human generally in my life, I

931
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:04.199
think it would have been a lot worse if I'd

932
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:07.600
been left in the children so till the age of

933
01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:12.039
being eighteen, I don't think, yeah, I don't think i'd

934
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:18.159
have even though I hadn't been successful and whatever. I

935
01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:21.960
think there's nothing wrong with being in the children's home

936
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:25.079
two eighteen. By the way, I'm just talking from my

937
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:32.920
own personal experience. How at times really badly I've done

938
01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:39.399
in life, and I think if I hadn't had at

939
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:47.000
least some stability, then I don't know what I would

940
01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:50.239
if I'd even be here. To be honest, without being dramatic,

941
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.760
But even though it wasn't always great living there, you know,

942
01:13:56.399 --> 01:14:01.279
my family life between ages seven and fifteen, there's still

943
01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:02.199
some stability.

944
01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:04.640
There was still the.

945
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:08.640
Same people in the same house for years, so that

946
01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:12.840
that's stable. And it wasn't like super chaotic or anything

947
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:15.680
like that. The way I was growing brought up, when

948
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.479
I was like between two and five or two and

949
01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:23.920
four whatever, two and five, probably that was chaos.

950
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:24.880
This wasn't.

951
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:31.439
So yeah, it didn't. It didn't prepare me for life

952
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:36.119
as an adult. But then how do you prepare for that?

953
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:36.680
I don't know.

954
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:40.920
I didn't know that I had.

955
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:43.560
What I had.

956
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:45.119
I didn't know what you know, I had, what was

957
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:47.880
ever going on going on inside and stuff I hadn't

958
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:53.640
dealt with, and so, yeah, but I do appreciate my dad.

959
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:58.840
I started to appreciate my brothers more as well, even

960
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.800
though I'm never gonna I told them unless they're listening

961
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:06.279
to this, Like my oldest brother, for it's only recently,

962
01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:09.920
really that I've kind of realized that he looked after

963
01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:13.279
me and my other brother. He was in charge of us.

964
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:17.439
He looked after us for days, days on end sometimes,

965
01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:24.319
and he was a little kid himself. You know, I'll

966
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:29.279
be four years old, he was only eight years old.

967
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:35.520
So and also my other brother.

968
01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:40.199
All the stuff that's happened, and there's a reason for that,

969
01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:43.800
you know, there's a reason for what happened later in life.

970
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:49.239
So yeah, it's.

971
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:56.119
I just say, if I could, you know, the only

972
01:15:56.720 --> 01:16:01.239
if I could just have not been taken away from

973
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:04.680
London when I was two, I think i'd been all right,

974
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.960
that's the thing. It's just that period between two and seven.

975
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:15.279
But yeah, it's got heavy quick, didn't it. I move

976
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:22.199
on from that. I don't know about moving.

977
01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:24.079
Anymore.

978
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:33.720
I really don't know. I'd like to. I got this

979
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:38.359
is a base, this is somewhere I'd like to perhaps

980
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:42.479
start traveling, not now, but like in the future. Although

981
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:44.239
I don't want to lead everything off to the future,

982
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:48.800
because the future doesn't always happen, does it if you

983
01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:52.359
keep putting it off. But I would like to travel,

984
01:16:52.399 --> 01:16:55.920
would like to not just abroad, but you know, in

985
01:16:55.960 --> 01:17:02.079
this country, get around a little bit, maybe go on tour,

986
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:08.359
do my let me boy to sleep on tour. I

987
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:14.119
don't know, get a little mini buffs. So I'm not sure.

988
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:17.880
I don't about moving closer to my dad. There will

989
01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:19.760
be a time when I probably want to do that,

990
01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:23.960
and I hope there isn't, but I've got a feeling

991
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:32.479
because of his age and he's I do sometimes wish

992
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:35.199
I lived a bit closer, because then I could just

993
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:37.479
pop around and see him, have a cup of tea,

994
01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:42.640
see how he is, and you know, pop around Christmas Day,

995
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:47.960
well basically get free food, really get some dinners and stuff,

996
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:54.199
and then that would be handy. But he didn't. Just

997
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:56.399
didn't work out that way. I ended up moving to

998
01:17:57.279 --> 01:18:00.359
you know here. I've been there for ten and a

999
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:07.920
half years now, nearly April May June July August, ten

1000
01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.920
years and four months. Julie asks me, do you have

1001
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:16.039
any tips for dealing with depression? I might, Actually I might,

1002
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:19.399
I quite like to. I don't know why. I thought

1003
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:25.920
back maybe moving to Scotland on maybe Wales or.

1004
01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:28.000
I don't know why.

1005
01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:33.840
Just somewhere near the beach should be nice. That'd be

1006
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:37.359
quite a nice place to retire, because this is so

1007
01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:42.079
far out of the way anyway. Do you have any

1008
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:55.399
tips for dealing with depression? Julie, Wow, b seek medical help.

1009
01:18:56.359 --> 01:19:00.079
I would say so.

1010
01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:05.880
And I'm not just saying that as a kind of

1011
01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:11.079
dismissive way of saying that I'm not at all is

1012
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.039
I had depression for years and years and years and years,

1013
01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:19.680
never told anyone, never, I didn't even know that there

1014
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:23.199
was help out there. I didn't know that really things

1015
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:27.039
like medication, you know, or I just put up with it.

1016
01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:30.159
And I'd had it since I was a kid, since

1017
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:33.800
I was a kid. I was up and down all

1018
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:38.439
over the place, since I was like a child. And

1019
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:43.079
it's only when I was twenty five, after being ill

1020
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:48.439
for about seven to eight months with stomach problems, which

1021
01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:54.560
I'm guessing now would probably be called pet and what's

1022
01:19:54.600 --> 01:20:02.399
it called stomach stress? I don't know. I forgot it

1023
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:06.880
was called, but I possibly had that. But I got

1024
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:09.479
tested for loads of different things, and I was twenty four,

1025
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:13.960
not twenty five, twenty four, and ultimately the doctor said

1026
01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:18.680
to me, its stress. Put me on antidepressants, and within

1027
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:23.000
a short time, all the problems left, or of the

1028
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:27.840
physical ailments left.

1029
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:32.600
And I couldn't believe it. And it had a change.

1030
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:34.079
It changed.

1031
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:36.840
I put weight on, put half a stone on, which

1032
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:47.319
was needed, and I just felt different. So I didn't

1033
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:53.119
get any counseling. But then I was back on antidepressants

1034
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:57.800
ninety seven, So it was ninety five ninety seven I

1035
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:01.199
was back on them, and I did get I got

1036
01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:10.199
counseling for the first time, and then you know, I

1037
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.880
was on and off them for years until I was

1038
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:19.359
finally diagnosed with bipolar in two thousand and ten December,

1039
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:28.720
when I was forty twenty eleven December, so I was

1040
01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:33.279
forty one.

1041
01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:32.760
Forty one years old.

1042
01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:46.319
And so, yeah, speak to someone if you're going through

1043
01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:49.199
a depression, because it's I think there's different types.

1044
01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:53.119
When you've got brief bereavement.

1045
01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:58.920
I know it's someoneould say that's not depression, but it is.

1046
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:03.720
But it's it's almost it's for a reason, because a

1047
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:08.479
lot of depression can sometimes feel there's no there's no

1048
01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:10.600
reason for it, you know.

1049
01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:13.319
I mean I've been in the.

1050
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:15.479
Past and now this is getting quite serious, but in

1051
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:19.840
the past, I've been in the most amazing environments and

1052
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:24.560
I felt like I couldn't have felt worse if I

1053
01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:28.479
was at a funeral and I didn't know why. There

1054
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:33.279
was no reason for me, no obvious reason for me

1055
01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:47.239
to feel that way. And it's yeah, so but then

1056
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.439
there's sometimes there's an obvious reason.

1057
01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:52.399
You know.

1058
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:55.760
If there was a period in my time in ninety seven, well,

1059
01:22:55.760 --> 01:23:00.000
I lost my job, my girlfriend and I couldn't have

1060
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:02.760
to pay the rent, didn't have enough money for food,

1061
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:06.079
like all at the same time, within like about a

1062
01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:11.920
month of each other. Yeah, I was depressed, and kind

1063
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:18.279
of what else would I be in that situation without

1064
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:24.039
the coping mechanisms or any kind of safety net, anyone

1065
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:25.439
to help me.

1066
01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:28.000
Or asking for help.

1067
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:34.479
So yeah, it's ask for help. That's my thing. That's

1068
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:38.279
my tips. Ask for help if you're dealing with depression. Now,

1069
01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:40.760
I don't know, Julie, if you're coming from a perspective

1070
01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:49.439
of someone that's got depression, that hasn't been diagnosed with depression,

1071
01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:53.720
that's not on medication, or someone that's going through it regularly,

1072
01:23:55.079 --> 01:24:04.520
that has medication and just has it regularly and on

1073
01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:07.239
and off and stuff. See, I have it, but it's

1074
01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:12.279
part of the bipolar, so it's kind of it's not

1075
01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:14.680
all the time. When it hits, it's hard, but it's

1076
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:21.079
not all the time, thankfully. When I've had like months

1077
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:23.359
and months and months of it when I was younger,

1078
01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:29.560
but I'm on medication, and so I've had depression separate

1079
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:34.880
from the bipolar and yeah, so all kinds of things.

1080
01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:40.439
And PTSD I was diagnosed with in two thousand and three,

1081
01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:47.560
Like would you talk about PTSD? Like how can something

1082
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:52.119
affect me? I'm thirty two years old. How can I

1083
01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:55.960
be affected by something that happened when I was four

1084
01:24:57.319 --> 01:25:02.479
and I really didn't get it. I didn't understand how

1085
01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:07.279
something traumatic happening all that time ago could affect me

1086
01:25:07.479 --> 01:25:14.680
as an adult. It didn't make sense to me. But yeah,

1087
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:20.479
so I would say seek help, ask for help if

1088
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:26.279
you'd need it, talk to someone you know, even if

1089
01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:31.199
it's even you know, there's Samaritans, there's phone lines probably

1090
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:34.520
in most I don't know at let's say western countries anyway,

1091
01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:39.560
I don't know about other countries, but probably in most European,

1092
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:47.880
probably America, Canada, Australia, the UK, there's like things like

1093
01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:51.720
Samaritans that you can phone up and just talk about

1094
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:55.359
what's going on, or if you have a friend or

1095
01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:59.720
a family member that you can just be honest with

1096
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:10.039
someone that you can just hopefully someone that will listen

1097
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:15.119
without judging. And sometimes you'll need for someone to do that.

1098
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:18.720
It will need to be a stranger. It might need

1099
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:21.560
to be because not everyone's got that as like a

1100
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:33.960
person in their life. So and also probably don't go

1101
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:36.640
and talk to someone that wants to talk about themselves

1102
01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:42.840
because it's not really a conversation. So if you if

1103
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:44.640
you've got someone that wants to just have a normal

1104
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:51.800
conversation and telling them your problems. I'm not saying don't,

1105
01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:55.880
but sometimes telling those kinds of people your problems, they're

1106
01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:59.880
they're just waiting to talk about their own stuff, and

1107
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:04.960
that's not always helpful. So if you've got a friend

1108
01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:13.159
that you can trust and maybe ask them, is that

1109
01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:16.199
okay if I just talked to you about what's going

1110
01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:22.520
on with me? So it kind of maybe asked permission,

1111
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:27.279
not in a kind of in a nice way, in

1112
01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:30.960
a very loose and gentle way, just to make sure

1113
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:32.319
that they're in the right space.

1114
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:36.000
Because I remember when.

1115
01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:41.279
Luke before he went, he was in a bad way

1116
01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:48.119
before he left us, very bad way, and he phoned up.

1117
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:50.880
He told me he came up here, and he told

1118
01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:55.319
me he phoned up two of his closest people that

1119
01:27:55.399 --> 01:27:58.560
he would talk to on the phone, so he wouldn't

1120
01:27:58.560 --> 01:27:59.960
talk to me on the phone. He just come up

1121
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.600
because he was downstairs.

1122
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:02.359
I was up here.

1123
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:07.279
And both of those people said to the same thing

1124
01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:10.399
to him that they couldn't they could listen to him

1125
01:28:10.439 --> 01:28:12.640
going on because they had their own problems to deal with.

1126
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:19.439
Two different people that I know. He was very close

1127
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:21.920
to and he did see them very often, but he

1128
01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:23.840
used to talk to him on the phone quite a lot,

1129
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:30.079
and at this point he wasn't he wasn't being particularly

1130
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:33.720
pleasant either with it, so it was hard to listen

1131
01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:39.239
to what he was saying because he wasn't always being nice.

1132
01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:43.960
This is a very difficult situation. If you've got someone

1133
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:50.560
that you can trust, talk to them. If you haven't,

1134
01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:55.199
then talked to a stranger, make use of the mental

1135
01:28:55.199 --> 01:29:01.920
health services that are around. Well you could do is

1136
01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:08.319
make a recording or write down how you're feeling.

1137
01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:10.560
Now.

1138
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:14.640
Years ago, I had a bit of a an episode.

1139
01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:17.840
This was in ninety seven when all this stuff was happening,

1140
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:25.680
and I lost it, like in a big way, completely lost,

1141
01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:31.199
and it was kind of I was on the verge

1142
01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:38.279
of it was just I don't know, it was really weird.

1143
01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:43.600
But what I did is I wrote letters to three

1144
01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:49.960
different people, and I wrote and I wrote and I

1145
01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:55.479
wrote and I wrote everything that I felt. And once

1146
01:29:55.520 --> 01:30:02.359
i'd done that, I actually did feel some relief. Now

1147
01:30:03.720 --> 01:30:06.600
I kind of knew about this. I must have seen

1148
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:14.760
it in a book somewhere along the way. Yeah, I

1149
01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:18.920
don't know where. Maybe I saw it on TV. But

1150
01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:21.199
you know, this is ninety seven, this is long before

1151
01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:25.960
I didn't wasn't doing hypnosis or NLP, hadn't really even

1152
01:30:27.239 --> 01:30:32.760
any interesting, you know, counseling, never had counseling at that point.

1153
01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:39.800
That was a few months later. But it definitely helped

1154
01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:43.600
writing down how I felt. But what is is, you

1155
01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:46.000
don't write to them the way you would talk to

1156
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:52.640
them to their face. You write down everything that you

1157
01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:55.640
want to say, that you want to express, no matter

1158
01:30:55.640 --> 01:31:00.359
how horrible it is, because you don't send it to them.

1159
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:03.920
You don't send the letter to the person. You don't

1160
01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:07.239
keep that letter, you destroy it, you get rid of it.

1161
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:15.960
But you've allowed yourself to express it. And that's what

1162
01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:24.920
I did, and I found it useful. Another thing I

1163
01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:28.680
did when there was a family, real big family thing

1164
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:36.359
that happened that summer, and I spent probably about three

1165
01:31:36.439 --> 01:31:40.760
or four or five days all day just writing in

1166
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:43.399
the pad. I got through a couple of pads for

1167
01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:49.880
you know, just talked about what I was feeling. Not

1168
01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:51.680
all day was I doing it, but I did. You

1169
01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:54.239
spend quite a few hours during the day and in

1170
01:31:54.239 --> 01:32:01.119
the garden just writing down how I was feeling. And

1171
01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:08.880
I did find that that helped as well. Now in

1172
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:13.920
the past, I've made videos and made podcasts where I've

1173
01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:19.279
talked about how I felt, and sometimes that can also help.

1174
01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:24.960
I've also made podcasts that I've never released where I've

1175
01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:29.359
really gone in depth about how I'm feeling, and then

1176
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:32.880
I ended up deleting them because it was not suitable,

1177
01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:35.199
not allowed.

1178
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:37.920
It was in no way I was not going to

1179
01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:38.640
be putting.

1180
01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:41.560
That on there. So there's a few ways that I

1181
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.239
would say to deal with it, to deal with the pressure,

1182
01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:47.640
But the most important thing is that you're gentle with

1183
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:52.720
yourself and you don't give yourself a hard time. And

1184
01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:57.479
there's no right or wrong, there's no rules. Really, we're

1185
01:32:57.520 --> 01:33:03.199
all different. And just remember that there are people out

1186
01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:09.279
there that care. So you know it's a cliche, You're

1187
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:12.000
not the only one. You're not the only one going

1188
01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:14.760
through that. Loads of other people, millions of other people

1189
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:21.880
are also going through their own journey of depression, whether

1190
01:33:22.279 --> 01:33:30.600
short term or otherwise, and there's so many people out

1191
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:39.000
there that do care. So I definitely would say seek

1192
01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:48.640
professional medical help. Speak to your doctor, whoever the medical

1193
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:53.560
professional is in your country, wherever you live, and you

1194
01:33:53.760 --> 01:34:00.760
just find someone, ask for therapy, ask to ask for help.

1195
01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:11.359
There's no harm in asking for help, and talking to

1196
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:18.279
someone about how you're feeling can really help. I've been

1197
01:34:18.279 --> 01:34:21.760
on both sides of the sofa, as it were, for

1198
01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:22.239
this one.

1199
01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:23.760
I've been.

1200
01:34:25.159 --> 01:34:34.600
I've done hundreds of hours as a patient in therapy, counseling, psychotherapy,

1201
01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:39.479
you name it. I've done lots and lots of lots

1202
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:43.840
of hours. I mean even when I was counseling at college.

1203
01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:47.840
When I first started, I had to have twenty hours

1204
01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:54.239
of personal counseling as part of my college course just outside.

1205
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:57.640
I paid for it twenty hours, and I had to

1206
01:34:57.720 --> 01:35:01.199
have this signed off by the to prove that I'd

1207
01:35:01.199 --> 01:35:03.760
had those hours, and I had to do that. I

1208
01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:07.399
was part of the contract of doing the degree and

1209
01:35:07.479 --> 01:35:15.319
to become a counselor myself. Well, I knew someone on

1210
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:19.279
the course and they did that it might be ten hours,

1211
01:35:19.399 --> 01:35:21.880
might not. It might not been twenty, It might have

1212
01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:25.199
been ten. Someone on the course actually said that they

1213
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:28.720
did it, and they just made up a character. They

1214
01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:31.600
didn't even talk about themselves in counseling. They just made

1215
01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:36.000
up a character. And I thought, what is the point

1216
01:35:36.039 --> 01:35:42.399
in that you can't even be yourself when you're paying

1217
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:47.319
someone to be a counselor, you know they're professional counselor,

1218
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:53.079
you're paying them twenty thirty pounds an hour whatever, and

1219
01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:56.119
you put on a character just because you don't want

1220
01:35:56.159 --> 01:36:00.880
to open yourself up. Yeah you want to be a counselor.

1221
01:36:01.720 --> 01:36:05.920
But wow. But yeah, it's that I found out. I'm

1222
01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:08.319
not sure if it's true, but a found of very unusual.

1223
01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:16.000
But what I did is I spent two whole years,

1224
01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:23.720
maybe longer with this counselor. So I had probably one

1225
01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:29.319
hundred yeah, actually probably one hundred, maybe one hundred and

1226
01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:33.399
fifty over one hundred sessions. So I did at least

1227
01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:37.960
two years, you know, once a week, every week, every Friday.

1228
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:43.520
And I think she retired or she moved away, something

1229
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:48.039
like that. She just couldn't stand me any longer. She

1230
01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:58.119
had to move to early retirement. So yeah, ask for help,

1231
01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:00.720
keep going on.

1232
01:37:00.800 --> 01:37:01.960
But yeah, that's pretty.

1233
01:37:01.720 --> 01:37:08.039
Much well cover well cover Rob. I've also, as I said,

1234
01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:10.319
I've been a client of been a patient. I've also

1235
01:37:10.399 --> 01:37:15.039
been a counselor for what four and a half years

1236
01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:20.479
or so that I did it, so I can see

1237
01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:29.039
the benefit of talking to a stranger and the benefit

1238
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:35.520
of being that stranger. Yeah, so Karen asks me Hi

1239
01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:39.199
Jason questions for Friday. Do you believe in ghosts? And

1240
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:42.199
have you seen one? And do you think aliens in

1241
01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:47.399
UFOs are time travelers from the future rather than extraterrestrial beings.

1242
01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:56.800
Love the show, by the way, Thank you, Karen. The

1243
01:37:56.840 --> 01:38:00.800
thing is, I don't not believe even anything. You know.

1244
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:02.600
I'm kind of very open minded.

1245
01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:05.239
You know.

1246
01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:10.880
I've never seen a ghost that I know of. I

1247
01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:13.680
kind of it's weird. I kind of don't care if

1248
01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:18.279
they exist or not, not in a like harsh way,

1249
01:38:18.319 --> 01:38:22.119
but I'm open to it, like great if they do brilliant.

1250
01:38:22.520 --> 01:38:28.880
If they don't brilliant, it's fine. I've never seen a ghost.

1251
01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:37.920
But I also know that the brain can produce hallucinations

1252
01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:44.720
so that people sometimes see things that aren't there. I'm

1253
01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:48.199
not talking about serious mental honest, if I just the

1254
01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:52.880
general person might have a you know, a false hallucination

1255
01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:59.359
sometimes in life, whether it's due to stress or grief

1256
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:06.079
or fear or whatever. So I don't know, and I've

1257
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:09.560
never seen one. As far as aliens in UFOs, I

1258
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:13.399
think that's kind of almost the opposite.

1259
01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:16.680
Although I will say with ghosts.

1260
01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:18.640
It's an energy, isn't it. It's like an energy we

1261
01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:23.239
can't see now we know now we didn't by say

1262
01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:30.000
we know as humans, we are surrounded by invisible energy.

1263
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:33.680
That's how radio signals work, isn't it. I mean, it's

1264
01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:40.840
phenomenal that that was ever found and created that you

1265
01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:47.640
can transmit a voice talk to someone through the air

1266
01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:58.640
just by using you know, invisible energy signals. So we're

1267
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:08.920
surrounded by energy. So who knows what's what we can't

1268
01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:11.439
see because we can't. Most of the stuff in the

1269
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:15.560
world we can't see, you know, whenever there's a gap,

1270
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:21.920
there's billions upon billions and billions of particles between me

1271
01:40:22.159 --> 01:40:27.880
and the wall on the other side of the room.

1272
01:40:28.359 --> 01:40:30.640
That gap between me sitting on the sofa and that

1273
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:35.479
wall trillions upon trillions and trillions probably of particles that

1274
01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:41.920
are invisible to me, but they are there. So it's

1275
01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:46.840
kind of yeah, I don't know the ghosts. I mean,

1276
01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:52.119
who knows, Maybe we're the ghosts. Do you think aliens

1277
01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:57.640
and UFOs so I think? I mean, I'd love to

1278
01:40:57.720 --> 01:41:00.560
say this with some kind of originality, but it's pretty

1279
01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:02.279
much impossible.

1280
01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:04.319
To be original with this.

1281
01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:12.119
It seems absurd to think that if the universe really

1282
01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:19.640
is almost infinite and there's billions and billions of planets,

1283
01:41:20.439 --> 01:41:28.039
that we would be the only one with life, this

1284
01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:31.439
kind of life, you know, intelligent life. Shall we say.

1285
01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:33.800
So?

1286
01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:34.760
Yeah? I would.

1287
01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:43.399
I'd both say I reckon, there are other beings out there,

1288
01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:46.680
and I also hope there are.

1289
01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:48.600
I really hope they are.

1290
01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:52.840
I think that'd be so exciting, and I hope to

1291
01:41:52.840 --> 01:41:56.840
see it in my life. I don't want an alien

1292
01:41:56.880 --> 01:41:59.960
invasion or nothing like that. I don't want my independent

1293
01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:04.319
didn't stay to happen, but i'd love to see just

1294
01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:09.319
I don't know. I think it's just it's amazing, it's exciting,

1295
01:42:11.239 --> 01:42:16.199
and yeah, but I think it'd be brilliant. Time traveling. Yeah,

1296
01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:24.600
I don't know. I mean I sometimes think I reckon,

1297
01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:32.159
we're all aliens just landed on this planet. Can you

1298
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:36.880
hear that motorbike? Bless him? Or is he driving off?

1299
01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:46.159
Oh he's a good little bunny, he's driving off. Thank you, Bye,

1300
01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:57.479
Save travels. I think i'd like to be a time traveler,

1301
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:01.239
but technically we're all time travelers, aren't we or traveling

1302
01:43:01.359 --> 01:43:02.479
through time together?

1303
01:43:04.880 --> 01:43:05.640
I'd like to.

1304
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:13.640
Yeah, I reckon I'm just I think that the human erace,

1305
01:43:15.159 --> 01:43:19.439
there's so many differences between the different parts of the

1306
01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:25.880
world and between people. I reckon we're all aliens or

1307
01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:31.520
just from different different planets, which is maybe why people

1308
01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:36.720
just can't get on. Maybe sometimes they have such different

1309
01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:42.319
viewpoints and such different mentalities, different ways of thinking, and

1310
01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:51.239
maybe that's that's a planet thing you don't idea. Maybe

1311
01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:55.680
people from Jupiter can't get on with Bars men of

1312
01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:58.640
for Venus, women are from Mars or whatever it was,

1313
01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:05.359
And maybe it's that, you know, we can get on

1314
01:44:05.439 --> 01:44:11.199
to a degree. Maybe maybe it's very difficult. I don't know.

1315
01:44:12.199 --> 01:44:16.680
I just I hope that there are aliens. It's just

1316
01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:22.319
going to be even more harder now because AI, there's

1317
01:44:22.439 --> 01:44:26.359
so much absolute I don't know what the right word

1318
01:44:26.359 --> 01:44:33.039
would be. I've noticed it more. I'm not I don't

1319
01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:36.159
even like being on Facebook anymore, like the normal kind

1320
01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:38.159
of I like my little group.

1321
01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:38.159
But.

1322
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:45.960
There's so much rubbish coming onto Facebook, which is just

1323
01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:46.520
made up.

1324
01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:48.600
It's all AI.

1325
01:44:49.880 --> 01:44:52.840
Pictures of people together that have never even met each

1326
01:44:52.840 --> 01:45:00.119
other's just getting And the thing is, I can how

1327
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:04.119
old that those ones are lies because I know the facts.

1328
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:09.399
I know, but that's probably only not even a tiny

1329
01:45:10.119 --> 01:45:16.720
zero point zero points zero points zero one percent, not

1330
01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:19.920
even that of how much stuff is on Facebook that

1331
01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:25.079
I don't know is made up, and how much of

1332
01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:29.279
that is going into my brain turn itself into facts

1333
01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:35.279
when it isn't facts. So yeah, I do find it

1334
01:45:35.319 --> 01:45:44.840
weird though, all those years non stop UFO sightings on camera,

1335
01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:50.920
but as soon as everyone in the world has mobile

1336
01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:56.479
phone cameras on their phones, we get hardly any sightings

1337
01:45:57.319 --> 01:46:04.239
of actual UFOs compared to how we used to, or

1338
01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:14.880
of Bigfoot or the Lockness Monster, the yetty. So yeah,

1339
01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:18.840
Rich asks did you go to school university for hypnosis

1340
01:46:19.199 --> 01:46:21.479
or as all your learnings come from reading books, self

1341
01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:24.319
taught a bit, a bit, a bit bit of both.

1342
01:46:26.119 --> 01:46:30.000
I did. I've been self taught, and I also did

1343
01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:35.960
hypnosis courses, so it's a mixture mixture of things. Also,

1344
01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:42.800
I would say most learnings has come from doing it,

1345
01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:52.279
so nineteen years of doing it, and then I started

1346
01:46:52.319 --> 01:46:56.640
off doing it with people face to face. I used

1347
01:46:56.680 --> 01:47:02.479
to do a stop let's see yeah, free pain release

1348
01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:05.600
service I used to have, and I'd see people face

1349
01:47:05.640 --> 01:47:08.760
to face and help them with their chronic pain. And

1350
01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:11.199
then I kind of people started asking me for more

1351
01:47:11.239 --> 01:47:15.640
things like stop certain things that they wanted me to

1352
01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:18.520
help with, and I'd help them with that. But I

1353
01:47:18.680 --> 01:47:22.920
was aiming at stop to keep something stopped, and I

1354
01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:28.119
to reduce chronic pain. That was what I was sort

1355
01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:34.479
of aiming at. And then I started doing the group

1356
01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:40.199
relaxation sessions at and Alcohol and Drug Charity, and then

1357
01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:46.920
I was kind of headhunted for a drug rehab place

1358
01:47:47.960 --> 01:47:50.199
because they had heard that I was doing what I

1359
01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:52.800
was doing at the alcohol place, and they asked me

1360
01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:56.600
if i'd do it there, So I did. And so

1361
01:47:56.680 --> 01:47:58.720
I did that for about a year and a half

1362
01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:02.119
at those two places, or till the end of November

1363
01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:09.399
till November two thousand and seven. I started in two

1364
01:48:09.439 --> 01:48:14.439
thousand and six. Two. Yeah, So I had experiencing groups,

1365
01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:18.479
had experienced one on one, and then I had experience

1366
01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:28.000
of actually making recordings, as you know, on recordings like

1367
01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:33.920
this making sometimes it would be live, sometimes online on

1368
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:37.640
Facebook or YouTube, brother, and most of the time it'd

1369
01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:44.079
just be a recording. I started off releasing on my podcast.

1370
01:48:44.199 --> 01:48:48.760
I'd release the live recordings from the group sessions I did.

1371
01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:54.840
That's how I kind of started off because they were

1372
01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:57.920
asking me, and they're saying, well, once a week isn't enough.

1373
01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:00.760
We want to be able to hear you often. So

1374
01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:05.079
thought while first of all we did CDs, but then

1375
01:49:05.159 --> 01:49:08.479
it was getting expensive for the charities, so I just

1376
01:49:08.520 --> 01:49:12.479
stuck on more website and it kind of grew from there. Really.

1377
01:49:16.479 --> 01:49:18.680
But the first time I went to my first course

1378
01:49:18.720 --> 01:49:24.800
in hypnosis was at City University back in nineteen ninety eight,

1379
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:31.640
and it was an NLP course three parts, one part

1380
01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:37.079
per term, and it also included hypnosis. Then I was

1381
01:49:37.119 --> 01:49:41.560
buying books from then onwards and reading them, and then

1382
01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:49.680
I started doing courses again two thousand and two in hypnosis,

1383
01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:56.359
and I just kept going. Did another course two thousand

1384
01:49:56.399 --> 01:50:00.720
and five. It wasn't just.

1385
01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:01.560
Books that I was reading.

1386
01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:07.479
I was also had DVDs, tapes, audio recordings of trainings.

1387
01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:11.880
There was a time I had loads of stuff, you know,

1388
01:50:11.960 --> 01:50:17.279
before I moved away from when I was still working,

1389
01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:23.520
before I went to university. I mean, I had an

1390
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:31.520
amazing collection of stuff, just so much stuff hypnosis related.

1391
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:40.239
So honestly it was just yeah, but that was what.

1392
01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:47.920
Ninety eight two, so it's nine years worth of collection

1393
01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:50.920
that was to get all that stuff.

1394
01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:53.000
I don't have it all anymore.

1395
01:50:53.319 --> 01:50:59.800
I've got some books, but my interest in hypnosis has,

1396
01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:09.079
like traditional hypnosis, has reduced a lot. I enjoyed doing

1397
01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:11.680
the let Me Boy to Sleep because it's a mixture

1398
01:51:11.720 --> 01:51:19.520
of different things, and if it helps people to fall asleep,

1399
01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:23.640
then that's a good thing because that can really or

1400
01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:24.359
to relax.

1401
01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:27.159
It can help me to relax.

1402
01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:36.840
Then it can have such an amazing, amazingly positive effect

1403
01:51:37.159 --> 01:51:42.920
on your life without me sort of doing some kind

1404
01:51:42.960 --> 01:51:47.880
of trancy stuff and talking, you know, like that, I

1405
01:51:47.880 --> 01:51:54.319
can just be me. I've got a slow voice anyway, naturally,

1406
01:51:55.199 --> 01:52:05.760
probably monotonous suddenly, and yeah, so this suits me better

1407
01:52:06.159 --> 01:52:15.439
than Yeah, it suits me better than the hypnosis stuff.

1408
01:52:15.439 --> 01:52:21.920
And for some reason, I don't really know why, but

1409
01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:24.159
to let Me Boy the Sleep seems to be a

1410
01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:30.840
bit more popular than the hypnosis stuff I do, so

1411
01:52:33.239 --> 01:52:35.640
I think, yeah, I'm thinking.

1412
01:52:35.439 --> 01:52:38.960
More of just focusing on this.

1413
01:52:42.239 --> 01:52:50.439
Moving forward, because there's no one. The thing is with

1414
01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:53.239
the hypnosis is loads are people you can listen to

1415
01:52:53.279 --> 01:52:57.039
hypnosis for. I know, we're are different in the sense

1416
01:52:57.119 --> 01:53:03.039
of like voice, and different in the sense of techniques

1417
01:53:03.159 --> 01:53:11.920
and strategy and the way things are done. But no

1418
01:53:11.960 --> 01:53:17.640
one does what I do here people do. Maybe I

1419
01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:19.720
don't do what they do either, but everyone does their

1420
01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:23.560
own thing. But this is I've not really heard anyone

1421
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:30.279
else do this type of podcast that let me boy

1422
01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:33.680
to sleep. I mean, there is a podcast called bard

1423
01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:37.680
to Sleep or boort Me to Sleep or something, but

1424
01:53:37.720 --> 01:53:46.640
it's not this, And there's no I'm not putting anything on.

1425
01:53:47.039 --> 01:53:50.520
I'm not putting on you know, a super slow voice.

1426
01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:58.359
It's just me. This is how I talk. And yeah,

1427
01:53:58.560 --> 01:54:08.560
it's kind of real. I suppose, I suppose, I don't know. Maybe,

1428
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but that, ladies and gentlemen, I do believe is everything.

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All the questions answered. I hope you've got to hear

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the questions, all the answers. So thank you for listening.

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Remember to be kind to yourself because you do deserve

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to be happy, and remember to be gentle with yourself.

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You deserve to feel safe. Lots of love, bye,