July 6, 2025

(music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1388 | Jason Newland | 6th July 2025

(music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1388 | Jason Newland | 6th July 2025
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Hello, welcome to Jason Newland dot com. My name's Jason Newland.

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And Vinnie's just jumped onto.

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The chair, on to the chair.

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I woke it up.

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Oh my bag's hurt.

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Oh, I woke up early today. It's very late doing

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my Q and A Friday very late. This is the

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latest I think I've ever done one, and I've done

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one on a Saturday before, but yeah, this is never

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done one on a Sunday Sunday morning. And yeah, please

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only listen when you can safely close your eyes. I'm tired.

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I'm not actually tired tired, but I just I need

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to do some exercise on my back today because the

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muscles in my upper back are just aching, which they

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have been for the last couple of weeks. I go

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through periods with that. It might be due to tension,

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to be honest, but okay, this sorted. I'm just moaning

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and I sorry, I gotta stop.

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Morning. Oh what.

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I purposely not going to talk about Uncle Sausages today.

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Who is my neighbor that's in hospital. I'm not going

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to talk about him during this recording. I will possibly

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later on to a Sunday summary. We'll talk about the

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week then I will talk about.

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Him, but not in this recording.

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I can't. I don't want to talk about that anymore.

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So what I need to do is look for the questions.

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Where are the questions? So I have finally just got up.

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I've been awake for about ten minutes, so I'm just

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I'm not quite with it yet. Oh okay, okay, So

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I've got one, two, three, four, five questions, one from Hope,

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one from Michelle, one from Cara, one from Rich and

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one from Tammy. Also, I do want to just say

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a big thank you for everyone that sent birthday wishes

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to Alex or call him well, Vinnie calls him Uncle Sausages.

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But anyone that made a video or said well wishes

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birthday wishes, thank you very much. It was very well

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received and appreciated. I think so thank you, but I

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definitely appreciated it. It was hard to gauge a response

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from him, to be honest, but he's seen pleased definitely,

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but it was also very distracted, but thank you. I

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have no doubt he's watched the video because I put

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the videos together, and I'm sure he's watched them on

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his own as well. So okay, Hope, you keep talking.

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You keep I like this, You keep talking about different

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jobs you've had, You keep talking. You don't stop talking

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about the different jobs you've had. What's all that you've done. Ps.

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I've enjoyed known about what's going on with Uncle's sausages

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in the hospital. I find it really interesting. I hope

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that your neighbor comes home soon though. Okay, So what

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I'll do, I'll give you an update on the next

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recording right now. I'm gonna I know, I'll keep kind

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of coming back to him, but I'm going to try

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and I'm going to try and ignore him during this recording,

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just for the sake of the Q and a frieday

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Q and a fried he. Well, hope, what I can

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do I can try and list as many jobs that

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I've had. How about that? How about that? Then I

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could give it a go, all the different jobs. Okay.

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I was a paper.

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Boy, so.

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Delivering newspapers when I was a kid, evening morning, weekend, monthly.

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So I did that. That was probably my very first job,

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I think. And I was a kitchen porter again when

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I was a kid, doing a washing up. Then I

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worked in a bakery in the same place. It's the

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same restaurant. It's a big, really big restaurant. So that

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was that job. So those were the first. Yeah, so

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those are two jobs I had, well, two different places

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I worked, but afford not different jobs I had, but yeah,

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delivering s delivering newspapers, uh, monthly magazines. Cause all different jobs,

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but that was kind of what I did. That was

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the rolls lot. There's also roles in the bakery as well,

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and delivered in and.

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Did chch.

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So do we got the chip shop at words in

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a chip shop. Then I worked I think my next job,

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actually I'm just thinking about it. I worked in an

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old people's home I think now called the residential homes.

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I think that they basically just called old people's homes

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back then. And I was a cook for two weeks

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and I was sacked. I basically did two weeks whatever

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you want to call it. You know, I'll just go

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out of bed and all my words today, some of

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my bird some quite a lot of my my words

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are still in my bed, probably in my pillow in

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a form of sweat and whatever you call I just

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you know, temporary to see if they liked me or not.

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And they didn't. So that was over and done. With,

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so that was working as a cook or an assistant cook.

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And then I worked in.

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The co op.

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Oh I also worked Yeah, when I was in the

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chip shop, I worked cleaning supermarket part time. So I

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worked in a co op full time, which is a

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supermarket as well. And when I was there, I I

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also worked part time as a kitchen porter in a hotel. Yeah,

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well forgot about that one. And you know that wasn't

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even for the money. I mean, I didn't work for nothing,

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but I was just bored. It's yeah, it's weird. So yes,

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I did those jobs.

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And then after the book Boo.

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The co op, I did a couple of cleaning jobs

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part time. Then I worked in a BBBBB a factory

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making meters or my job was packing meters and making

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boxes to put the meters in. That was pretty much

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what I did. And then I worked in a shipping

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not shipping office. There was a haulage office and there

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was a tank freight where they basically transported liquid like chemicals,

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things like that, so I worked in there. I was

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actually thinking about that yesterday because there are two occasions

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where people where I've messed up, but then the people

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have complained about me messing up and it's worked out

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worse for them. One was in a pub where I

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was basically serving drinks to a table and I was

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under charging. Not on purpose, I just when I was

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doing the maths wrong, and I think I just remembered

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what it was the amounts. I didn't added it up once,

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and then every time they came back, I just charged

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them the same amount. This is before we used to

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put You know, tools are much better now you put

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the item, you know, you click the item and stuff.

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Back then didn't have that for tools to ligally put

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it in each item by the amount.

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It was.

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Not perfect for me. Anyway. They complained they got served

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by someone else because I was busy. Later in the evening,

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they got served by a different person and they got

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charged the proper amount, and they started moaning. Moaning kicked

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up off us and the manager came out. And then

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they were saying, oh, yeah, but we're paid. We paid

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three pounds less all night for each round, and now

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you're charging this view. So as I said, the manager

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came around, came out and said, well, this is the

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amount you should have been paid all night. See if

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they had just sharp paid the amount then made sure

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they saw me next time, but no. The same thing

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happened in the tank freight place. This was a little

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bit more serious because I was messing well. I mean,

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it's I shouldn't be under charging people, and also you know,

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it's not good for the companies it. So I guess

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that was serious in that way, but I didn't mean

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to do it. They did accuse me of stealing, but like, no,

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I'm just really really bad at the job. That's pretty

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much what it was with the tank prey. I was

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part of my job was to put to do the

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wages for the lorry drivers every week and to do

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the tax and stuff. So I did that and after

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about four weeks, Yeah, I did it every four weeks,

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everything's fine, and then I think on the fifth week,

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I'm making this up. I don't know what week it was.

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They started coming one by one. You charged me too

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much tax, you told me you and they really would

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going at me, and the managers got you know, manager

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got involved, the head office got involved, They called up

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the royal family. It was a big old dealing and

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as it turned out, I had messed up. But I'd

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been messing up the whole time, and for the previous

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four weeks they'd got way more than they should have gone.

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So although I charged too much tax on the fifth week,

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I didn't charge hardly any not nearly enough the other weeks.

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So they were up by our fifty pounds a week

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the previous weeks. The fifth week they would charge an

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extra twenty pound or they lost twenty pounds or something

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like that. So if they had it kept quiet, they'd

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have been because it was so obvious I was going

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to get sacked, what I was going to leave, you know,

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I was so rubbish at the job. But no, So

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what happened is the head office got involved. They all

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got their money changed. But in the process they lost

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about two hundred pounds because I had to pay that

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money back that they got because it was the wages.

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It was an error, so they, you know, the same

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as they should report. It was up to them because

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you know, they needed to report an error in their wages,

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so they yes, it was there. They ended up paying

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more money to pay it back, so they they weren't

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happy if they weren't happy to start with, but after

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that it was even less happy. And I think one

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of them actually was threatening to beat me up after work.

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I think my response was laughing at him. Yeah. Well,

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so after that, I went back to the factory boxing

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up meters electric meters, and then I tried to do

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it in chronological order, but it's not going to be

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I did. Okay, what else hmm? I babysat, So I

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basically got kind of paid to look after a kid

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for a few months. But my payment for that was

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just somewhere to live. So I was sleeping on someone's

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living room floor on the cushions from the city and

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that was it. Really, So all I did was just

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take the kid to school every day and make sure

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I was there at night. Well, the people went to work,

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the parents went to work. That was kind of a job.

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Another cleaning job I had one. How many cleaning shops

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have I had? One, two, three, four, five mm hmmm, six, six, seven, eight, Yeah,

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add eight cleaning jobs done. Kitchen porter in one two

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three nine cleaning jobs's kitchen portant one two three.

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Four mm hmmm mmmmmm hmm.

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One two, three, four four or five kitchen portering jobs

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And for those who don't know what that is, just

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washing up basically washing dishes, washing.

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Pans for a restaurant.

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And you have done. You have done lots of different

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cleaning jobs. I've cleaned nightclubs, I've cleaned supermarkets. I've cleaned

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what have I cleaned? Nightclubs, supermarkets, even housing estates. I've

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worked on a Yeah, I've worked on a street cleaning

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as well, so walking behind a dusting glory thing and

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just brushing, like sweeping the streets. I've done that as well.

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I've had I've had jobs. I had one job where

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I was cleaning what's those big tent things that people

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have a functions not torqui, torkpee poor tee talkpie, something

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like that, big big tents and people have so they

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can have like a garden event, but also they can

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be inside if they want. Ideal in this country's weather,

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they never kind of not really no, it's going to

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rain or not. And some people were getting married in

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them what they called being a one in tor pay

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pay pay pay day, kpo poo poop something like that.

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But they're sturdy. But really, you know, big old things.

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So I was worked for something like that once. I

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clean caravans, yeah, blind clean caravans. I've worked in a

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dry cleanness that was hot, worked at a bakery twice

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small one and a massive one in a bakery. Worked

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in the canteen and in the actual bakery itself, so

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I had two different jobs there at two different times.

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They got made redundant and then I messed up a bit.

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But I told this story before. And we were being

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made redundant and someone came in. Because we're so used

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having temps, I didn't know this bloke. I just thought

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it was a temp or it's a lady or someone

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anyway it and they were asking about the job, and

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I said, yeah, I was just showing them how to.

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I was showing them where to hide if you want

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to have a skye, if you want to just you know,

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have a cigarette break, or if you want to just

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just hide really and not do any work. In terms

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of that person was the new boss, which didn't look

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good on me really, and I had to reinterview for

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the job even though I was still there that that

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was a weird concept to me, and I genuinely I

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didn't expect to keep my job, but I did, which

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was weird. Like I literally I was showing no respect

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and even at any view, I was just laughing at them.

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In those days, I was a little bit cavalier, maybe

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a little bit. I don't care. I struggled to take

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it seriously because I was serving out beans and sausages

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to people every day, and I was about to get

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a pay cut for doing the same job so that

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I'd been doing for six months or whatever. So I

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was about to get a pay cut. My first all

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laid off then rehired to do exactly the same job

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for less money, which I found to be a bit silly,

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if I'm honest, And I told them so, perhaps you

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shouldn't say that in a job in the you I

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don't know. I'm an expert, you know, my what I

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used to say in my teens, I said a little

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I had a little cocky, a little cocky verbal thing

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that I should ride the end of the interviews, because

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I've had probably hundreds of interviews over the years. When

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the person said any more questions, and I'd say, yeah,

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when do I start? And at this point I stand up,

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and I just like I wouldn't do a dance, but

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I definitely moved my feet a little bitter and pretends

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to be confident. Sometimes they'd laugh sometimes and I'd give

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me a job. Sometimes they didn't laugh, and they'd give

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me a job. Sometimes they'd laugh, and sometimes they didn't laugh,

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and I'd never see them again. You know, this is

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really in occasion at work, and they'd say, okay, come Monday.

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Sometimes let's say we'll let you know. Yeah, that's what

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happened with the Yeah. I said that to the to

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the bloke who interviewed me for the Lorry Company thing haulage. Yeah,

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any questions?

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Yeah, when can I start La Lana? Yeah?

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I was really bad at that job. It took me

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a day trying to learn how to do the telics machine.

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It was hard. I just couldn't. The kind of bossy

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was that I had. It showed me once and then

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leave me to figure it out. If you leave me

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to figure something out, Okay, I will figure it out,

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but it might take me weeks. I'll always figure something

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out eventually if I really put my mind to it.

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But it would like okay, And he did it so quickly,

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and then he go and sit down and have a

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cup of coffee. Come back when he's done, he'd say

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to me, and I'd show it to him. No, that's

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not right. Do it again. That's not right. Do it again.

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I bring it back. That's not right. Do it again.

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And you know, I had a weird dream last night.

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I dreamt again about this house I used to I've

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never lived in, but it's only in my dreams. This

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time was weird. Okay, So there's this house is a

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mixture of this house and a flat. So I've got

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this memory of this little dream world where I'm living

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in multiple places. It might be because I've moved so

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many times, but these none of these places are anywhere

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that I've actually lived. Or maybe they are a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Maybe one's a flat that I lived in when I

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was a kid, when I was well, when I was fifteen,

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I was sleeping on the floor in my step grandmother's flat.

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It was a little camper bit, but it was in

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the living room. It was that I wasn't pleasant. It

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was a novelty for the first night. But you know,

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after having my own room, that was hard to wake

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up every day, Literally it was harder. It was like,

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no teenager wants to wake up people, you know, wake

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up and there's a lot of people walking around in

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their bedroom. I think anyone of any age would particularly

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enjoy that. Hmmm, this this stream that was I'm looking

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out of the people, or maybe there's a glass in

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the window in the door of the window of with

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the door of the front door, there's a glass in

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the window of the window, and I see people to

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start knocking on the door and they come in and

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they were living there because I've not been there. I've

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left my stuff there. But I'm living in multiple different places.

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One's a council flat, but I've not even moved in

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there yet. I'm still living in another flat, which I

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did do once. I did actually live in a place,

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moved out, moved into my friend's council flat who's back

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in nineteen eighty nine, and I still had time left

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on the room that I was renting, so I just

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didn't say nothing and I ended up moving back. That

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was weird. Yeah, there was another running away from a situation.

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So yeah. Other jobs, uh uh uh uh. Yeah. I've

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had jobs in various different factory settings. Yea, as I said,

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pack in meters, fixing here, and numb one on a

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conveyor belt, putting screws into stuff our conveyor belt. I

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mean basically in a bakery that was like a factory. Really.

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I worked in a pub. I've had one done a

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few bar jobs over the years, and by worker is

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not for me. So one in a pub, which was yeah,

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I didn't enjoy that at all. I wasn't very good

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at it. I worked at Butlins for the Christmas season

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behind the bar. That was the busiest bar. I've ever

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never witnessed anything like that. Thousands of people. It was just.

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It.

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Yeah, not never ending, you know, I can't They are

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quiet times, but when it was busy, it was just ridiculous.

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And I used to help out behind the bar a

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comedy club, but I didn't do much bar work as such.

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I would when they were busy. I'd just pop open

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and help them and I'd say, anyone want to any

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lager pint of lager? And someone would say yeah, and

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can I have a vodka and coke and just lager,

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not do anything else. So I thought that would be handy.

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So when I came over to one side of the bar,

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I'd sell them lagers. I knew much they were, It's

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just and just charge them for however many lagers they had,

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just to get the queue and the bar down. But

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people were like, what do you mean You're not serving

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any era. COST said, no, I'm not. They are I'm

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just serving lager for proper bar people, for people that,

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you know, just normal people like me and him and her,

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just drinking the lager and of these fancy cocktails that

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take like half an hour to make. No, I'm not

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interested in that a lager. I mean sometimes I'd start

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putting a few pints together before the audience even came

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to a break to come over. So it was my

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idea yea, And I think it helped actually because once

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I started doing that, the other staff started getting prepared

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as well for the table service, So they started pouring

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out beers ready for when the tables were, you know,

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to take them mountain stuff. I know what I'm saying.

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I think I think that's the that's the only three

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bar jobs I had. Yeah, dry cleaners that was hot.

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The two hottest jobs was definitely the bakery, the big bakery.

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I mean, the small bakery was also hot, but I

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didn't care. The big bakery that was super hot. And

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the dry cleaning dry cleaning and stuff worked out. Then

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I used.

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To have a.

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I used to help this bloke who is self employed

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to clean carpets that was like sporadic. I really liked him,

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though he was a great bloke. Just going through the

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different places that I've worked security guard and I did

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lots of different places when I was a security guard,

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and Canary Wharf and nurses home as in like stud nurses,

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printing firm, even a betting shop which was really weird.

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That was the strangest place I ever went. I worked

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at a for a former asylum. It's an old hospital

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that had been there for hundreds of years, but it

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was the grounds that basically I never got to go

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inside the hospital because it was closed, but I did

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go around the grounds. Big It's in North London, massive

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area probably imagine it's a huge counsel estate now probably,

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but back then they were just secured in the area

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and that was my job, just patrolling there. I did

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it at night once. That was weird.

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Yeah, yeah, that wasn't Oh wow, I just remembered.

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Isn't it weird? How I forget stuff and now I

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just remember it. Here's something I used to do. I

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used to work around the Middlesex hospitals and sometimes they'd

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ask me. These are being more on my day offs

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or days off, asked me to work in the actual hospital.

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But these were closed hospitals, old old, old hospitals which

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were freaky places to be freaky during the day, but

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during the nighttime nobody wanted to do a patrol. I

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patrolled during the day to walk around you get to

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know the area. I mean, it takes ages, but and

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you have to do this zing like tap on different

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places to prove that you've done the patrol. At night,

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no one would go with me. So I just said

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to the office, I ain't gain I'm I'm not doing

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on my own. Sorry, a simple as that. Because it

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was pitch black, so those are the zero electricity in

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the building. We had torches, but h they didn't help

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us to see the sounds and there was a lot

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of sounds and the people that we were basically just

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sitting in for people that hadn't turned up or because

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it was over time for me. And I told the

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head office, I said, look, this is a job for

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two people patrolling this off this hospital in the middle

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of the night, in the pitch black like I'll do

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it with one other person. I'm not doing it alone.

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And I said, you've got to do it anize it. Well,

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I'm not sorry, but not sorry. You know, that was

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just and they had to accept it. It was a

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weird place, very weird, very weird. I worked a couple

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of hospitals like that. I worked in the accident, accident

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and emergency ward or the casualty department. I think at

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least once doing security because they had a staff shortage.

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That was weird because that's very that could be a

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very volatile environment. But luckily, on my shift, nothing particularly happened.

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Although I didn't know this staff quite well because they

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were in the same hospital that I was working in anyway,

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so I'd worked with them and they wore everyone was

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call go on with most of the people. And some

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people liked working in the accident and emergency board because

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they liked the drama. They enjoyed it. I just wanted

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to go for a sleep, you know. How was the

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perkose of doing the night shift. There's no one around,

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you come a little sleep. I'm trying to think what

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I've jobs that I had security. I've had a lot

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of sales jobs. Most of them didn't work out very

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well and they were pretty much commission based only, and

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not one of those resulted in me getting paid. I

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did quite a few over the years, really quite a

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few in the nineties not in my nineties, but in

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the nineties I did a lot of those kinds of jobs,

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hoping that it would lead to some kind of financial security.

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And then I was a DJ as well, worked in offices,

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do administration, answering the phones, taking orders, things like that.

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I've canvassed for double glazing, also for life insurance, so

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this is knocking on people's doors, also for satellite dishes

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as well. I've been what did I do being a Yeah,

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I suppose. I'm just trying to think of some of

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the other jobs I had in the nineties. There must

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be sometimes I'm just forgotten forgotten about. Was the security

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for the old the new opera house that was being built, Yeah,

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that was okay, kind of I done. Did work with

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some builders on a train station taking down lighting, really

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out the lighting. So that's something I did that was

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overnight mm hmm, call centers. I fell asleep and sorry.

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So I had my proper sales job, my first proper

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sales job, no, my second actually, so I sold till

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rolls for a while, but yes, this is the second

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sales job that I actually got paid for. And it

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was calling people up, cold calling people, trying to talk

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them into taking on a phone contract. So I did

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that for a few months. Then I started working in insurance,

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selling car insurance and that didn't work out. I was

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there for two and a half years, but then it

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went a bit, you know, a bit, and then I

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worked in retail again in a gift shop. I did

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that twice to different towns. Worked in three different insurance companies.

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This is during two thousands, well, two during the two thousands,

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and then one two thousand and twelve. Then I went

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to university for three years. During that time, I had

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a job in a gift shop part time. I also

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worked as a care worker for in a mental health

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care unit and it was a locked unit, so I

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worked there on the weekends for a while for a

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little while. Yes, I guess. The next thing is I

475
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:18.599
worked at children's charity on the reception part time, and

476
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:23.320
I was also self employed as a counselor for a

477
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:41.559
few years here and then after that I went back

478
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:45.880
to I did get a job in a call center

479
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:55.679
which was basically break a breakdown service, car breakdown service.

480
00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:01.519
So I went there, got that job and left shortly afterwards.

481
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:23.960
And what did I do? Then? I went back to

482
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:29.119
insurance and I went back to current insurance again. Did that?

483
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:46.679
How was it? That's at the jobs I can remember

484
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.519
off the top of my head. There's been lots of

485
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:54.920
jobs in between, but that's kind of the main you know,

486
00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:19.280
ballpark anywhere. Hm hmmm. So that's the jobs that I've had. Yeah,

487
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:29.360
quite a few different sales jobs over the years. I'm

488
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:35.519
just trying to think of any of a weird jobs

489
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:42.679
I might have had. I've forgotten about m and we

490
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:58.159
think hear me think it's very overcast outside today, well overcast,

491
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:08.719
I don't know. The temperature is definitely different. It's dropped

492
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:13.440
like a lot compared to what it was. I can

493
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:26.000
just I could feel it in me tales. I think

494
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:28.400
that's everything that I can think of about the jobs.

495
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:33.480
So I hope I'm not gonna I won't talk about

496
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:39.519
the uncle sausages in hospital in this recording, but I

497
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:43.880
will do another one, a different recording where I talk

498
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:52.800
just about that. Michelle asks me, can you explain what

499
00:54:52.960 --> 00:55:03.079
council housing is? Okay, Michelle, I'm not sure where you're from.

500
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:04.760
I was going to say, I was going to give

501
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:14.119
you a comparison, but I'm not sure. Okay, Right, social

502
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.760
house it is social housing. Yeah, it's the council housing

503
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:25.679
is social housing. It's basically properties that have been built

504
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:35.280
by the government or by the local because every area

505
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.719
has its local council. So there's the government, then there's

506
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:45.960
the keynote. So I'm in Essex. So for example, the

507
00:55:46.000 --> 00:56:00.000
council in Essex probably about nineteen eighty, between seventy eight

508
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:04.400
to eighty, I've built this building that I'm living in

509
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:15.840
and solely for the purpose of renting the properties out

510
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:31.360
to members of the public as social housing. And see

511
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:36.400
I've lived in so I've mentioned council housing before. I

512
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.559
have lived in lots of different council places. I when

513
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.599
I was born in a council house, were not literally born.

514
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.239
I was born in a hospital, although my older brother

515
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.199
was born at home. But I was born, you know,

516
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:54.440
I lived in a council house when I was first born.

517
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.719
My len a granddad. My dad grew up in a

518
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.920
council house when he was a child, So my nan

519
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.840
and grand had lived in a council house for from

520
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:16.360
I don't know, for a long time, and then I

521
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:20.679
lived in a council house and I think they were first.

522
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:27.920
I'm going to make this up, so I thought maybe

523
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:31.280
I should look into some facts about.

524
00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:40.519
History of UK council.

525
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:54.039
Housing. So okay, apparently the official term for it in

526
00:57:54.079 --> 00:58:01.639
this country is public housing. I didn't realize that, also

527
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:09.519
known as council housing or social housing, provided the majority

528
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:20.639
of rented accommodation until two thousand and eleven, and then

529
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:30.519
private rentals overtook. So there's more private rentals than there

530
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:42.480
is social housing or council houses. I wonder when it started.

531
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:51.280
I'm just having a quick look social housing in the UK. Well,

532
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:53.159
I'm going to say in England, so I don't know

533
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:58.760
how far it was. I imagine also Scotland and Wales,

534
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:04.679
and but you know, I'm not one hundred percent sure.

535
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:14.199
It says here on a website called England dot shelter

536
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:20.880
dot org dot UK. Social housing in this country dates

537
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:27.119
back to the late nineteenth century, but the nineteen nineteen

538
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:33.400
Housing and Planing Act saw the government embark on the

539
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:42.079
first comprehensive plan to build social housing, led by councils.

540
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.639
This plan was the foundation of a large scale building

541
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:51.719
program that stretched through the latter half of the twentieth century.

542
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:57.719
Now I know a little bit about this post war government.

543
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.239
After the Second World war faced the persistent problem of

544
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:09.280
privately rented slums, which became a problem in my twenties

545
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:12.440
to be fair, the amount of rubbish places I ended

546
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:19.199
up living in, and also the destruction of properties during

547
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:25.119
the war and the need to rent housing to soldiers

548
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:30.239
that were returning. So they set out this big old

549
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:38.639
thing where they built loads of houses to provide millions

550
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:43.079
of ordinary people with stability of long term tenancies at

551
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:53.800
affordable prices. Now I think it was the fifties or

552
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:57.639
the sixties. Maybe the fifties, which is post war, wasn't

553
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:08.639
it really? Tower blocks was a solution. So these I

554
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:13.360
don't know how high, but some of them like twenty floors,

555
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:20.400
twelve floors, twenty floors, some smaller, but these big tower

556
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:27.480
blocks which had they were kind of quite often they

557
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:31.320
were just on their own, that'd be in an area

558
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:35.320
of land where there are other tower blocks. Sometimes you

559
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:40.559
get tower blocks that were connected together, you know, big,

560
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:49.239
big old things. And when I lived in Newcastle I

561
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:53.000
lived in a tower block. I also lived in a

562
01:01:53.039 --> 01:02:01.679
tower block in London in nineteen eighty nine. And the

563
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.239
one thing, I mean, when I lived in the one

564
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:12.920
in Newcastle, I didn't really know any difference anything, you know,

565
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:18.159
because before that we've now I lived in a council

566
01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:22.760
house in London. I don't remember it. It was a baby,

567
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:27.519
and I lived in another council house which had foster

568
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:31.039
parents for a year and a half or whatever. I

569
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:36.280
don't remember that either, because there was a baby. And

570
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:43.159
then at the age of two ish my mum came

571
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.800
back and got us from London took us to Newcastle.

572
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:52.000
Although my oldest brother said that we spent some time

573
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.280
in Scotland because he was a lot older than me,

574
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:59.679
so I don't remember that either, but I remember Newcastle.

575
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:16.400
So I only remember two different accommodations in that period

576
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:23.159
of time, as in like living with her one who

577
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:28.519
is in this house which was as far as I

578
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:32.840
could see these is it terraced houses, you know where

579
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.039
they're basically just one after another after another, all stuck

580
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:41.800
together from and literally it looked seemed like you could

581
01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:46.320
look for miles and just one massive long road and

582
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:49.920
the opposite of the road is exactly the same. Every

583
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:57.719
house looked the same, and then at some point there'd

584
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:05.480
be a shop and then they carry on again. And

585
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:13.440
I remember that road. I've seen, I've seen imagies and

586
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:17.360
I've seen stuff on TV of places that remind me

587
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:21.800
of that. Now, whether it was in Newcastle or whether

588
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:25.559
it was somewhere else, I don't know. But as far

589
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:31.599
as social housing, that probably was also social housing, council

590
01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:38.039
council property. And I lived in a council flat. Now

591
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:43.000
you couldn't own a council flat back then, so those

592
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:50.519
tower blocks were all council in this country. And I know,

593
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:54.719
but I'm sure there was there was probably tower blocks

594
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:57.480
in London which were private, but you know, I'm just

595
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:03.400
for people with money, but generally the tower blocks for

596
01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:06.760
the social housing. It was just for social housing. These

597
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:14.960
kind of identical, very very similar towers, big old things.

598
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:15.559
They was.

599
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:20.480
There was one in Stratford, not the one I lived in,

600
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.639
but it was. It was really weird. It was just

601
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:29.199
on its own, really stood out. I had a friend

602
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:34.639
who lived there and it was just I know, one, two, three,

603
01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:39.159
four or five, well, I know, twelve twelve, probably about

604
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:47.519
twelve stories and it was just on its own. There

605
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:51.760
was shops around it and there were some houses behind it,

606
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:54.920
but just this tower block. And I don't know, maybe

607
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.480
there were others in the fifties and they knocked it

608
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:01.400
down and they put up up, you know, built houses.

609
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.159
But yeah, so that's what they did. They built all

610
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:10.440
these huge towers. I say hugely, not as big as

611
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:17.119
you know, the Eiffel Tower or some of the huge

612
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:20.400
ones you get in well in anyway. Now, I mean,

613
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:23.719
we've got some huge ones in America, in America, in

614
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:31.760
the UK, in London. I imagine, there's huge, huge buildings

615
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:38.000
pretty much in every city of the world. So I

616
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.679
didn't live in any of those, but they still were high,

617
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:46.360
especially for me because I was thy little still at

618
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:56.599
So yeah, that's kind of what social housing was.

619
01:06:58.159 --> 01:06:58.639
It was.

620
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:06.159
The norm, the norm, you know, the kind of the

621
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:15.440
normal situation by the seventies was you'd be brought up

622
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.159
in a council house, you'd live in a council house

623
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:28.400
with your parents, your family, you'd leave and then eventually

624
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:31.599
you get your own counsel maybe you get your own

625
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:36.760
council flat or your own council house for your own family,

626
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:41.719
or if you live on your own, get a council

627
01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:46.119
flat in a block, you know, depending on how many

628
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:49.639
people are in your family. So that just seemed to.

629
01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:51.880
Be the norm.

630
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:56.239
I didn't take advantage of that when I was fifteen,

631
01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:04.400
because or not advantage. But I was pretty much homeless.

632
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:10.199
When I was fifteen, I was sleeping with my step

633
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:15.440
nand's floor. I was sleeping on the floor in the

634
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:19.239
living room on a camper bed. I mean, sofa surfing

635
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:26.760
basically is class as homeless. So you know, at that

636
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:30.199
age I've probably I wouldn't have been given my own

637
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.600
flat at fifteen, but maybe at sixteen I might have done.

638
01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:37.399
They might give me a council place, especially as I

639
01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:41.079
lived in a little town. It wouldn't have If I'd

640
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:43.000
have been on a council list, I probably wouldn't have

641
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:48.680
had to wait long. But I just, I guess I

642
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:52.960
just wanted to do my own thing, be independent, although

643
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:58.159
that would have been been independent. I was a kid.

644
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:05.960
What don't I know? What did I know? And I'm

645
01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:09.920
not sure when I became an adult, probably a couple

646
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:19.520
of years ago, I think. I think once when I

647
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:23.640
was in my thirties, when I started getting ill with

648
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:26.600
anxiety and I didn't know what was going on, I

649
01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:30.520
think I started to grow up a little bit because

650
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:33.119
I had to deal with something that I didn't know

651
01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:39.479
what to do, how to deal with it. Yeah, I

652
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:45.039
think with I think right now I probably at my

653
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:50.199
most adult, my most grown up in some ways, you know,

654
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:58.079
going back and forward supporting someone who's very poorly. It

655
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:04.000
almost feels like I'm growing up up, almost almost slightly.

656
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:09.039
So.

657
01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:12.399
Yeah. So I lived in I was born into a

658
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:15.920
council house. I lived in another council house where I

659
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:21.720
was fostered, another council house with my mom, Mummy mom mom,

660
01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:30.399
the first one a block of council council block. Then

661
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.039
then I was in a children's two children's time. Then

662
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:40.399
I lived in another council house, which was my step

663
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:46.479
mom's mom's house before she moved into her flat. So

664
01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:51.119
I lived there for a little while. Then my dad

665
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.920
got a council house which we all lived in, me,

666
01:10:56.119 --> 01:11:01.039
his wife, and the three of the three kids, so

667
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:09.479
that's six. Then he bought a house, so that was

668
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:14.880
the end of that council house. So the seventh place

669
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:17.800
I lived, not the seventh place, because I moved around

670
01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:19.319
a lot when I was a kid, but I don't

671
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:23.640
remember it. I don't remember where it was. But that

672
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:27.439
was the first private place that I lived. My dad

673
01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.560
bought a big house because we had a new My

674
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:38.520
new little brother was born in nineteen eighty the day

675
01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:41.800
before my birthday. The day before my eighth birthday, he

676
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:47.239
was born. I actually I was I'm responsible for him

677
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:51.159
being born, which sounds really bad, doesn't it when you

678
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:54.920
say it like that. But he's what happened, right, I

679
01:11:55.079 --> 01:12:00.479
broke he waters his mouth's waters because I hell over,

680
01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:03.680
it's really weird.

681
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:05.039
Like this council house.

682
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:08.680
I loved this council house that we lived in. My

683
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.079
nan and grand had moved in there as well afterwards

684
01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:17.760
when we moved out. I loved the council house because

685
01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:25.880
it was the first, I don't know, the first safe

686
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:30.479
space that I'd ever lived that I could remember. I

687
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:34.119
mean because I was seven, so I could It was

688
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:38.640
the first I mean living in my step nand's my

689
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:42.439
step grandmother's house for a few months, that was also safe.

690
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.039
But this was different because it was like a family,

691
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:49.960
and I've never lived as a family before, you know,

692
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:58.079
my three brothers, a father, and a mother. I mean,

693
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.359
I had, but I was the last time that happened,

694
01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:08.520
I was three months old baby, so it was kind

695
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:11.520
of I don't know, it's new and it was fresh

696
01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:16.720
and it was lovely, very I absolutely I was happy

697
01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:25.600
for the first year it was great, and so what

698
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:29.880
I'm talking about that I get all emotional, well start creaming.

699
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:34.119
No, I'm not so.

700
01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:39.560
I lived there, So that was so. I'd had six

701
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:45.760
council places, moved there. Then I lived in a council

702
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:58.039
In nineteen eighty six, about April May time, I moved

703
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:06.399
into my step mom's mom's flat with my step mom.

704
01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:13.960
That was a council flat, and then from then on

705
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:21.479
I was just in private accommodation, renting privately all the

706
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:32.960
way through eighty seven eighty eight. I temporarily stayed in

707
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:39.680
a council flat in eighty nine, a council house in

708
01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:52.920
eighty nine, and then I stayed in another council flat

709
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:59.640
in the beginning of nineteen ninety with a friend I

710
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:09.239
was working with. Unfortunately, he passed away within two weeks

711
01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:12.680
of maybeing there three weeks or something. It's very strange.

712
01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.359
And I moved back to the room that I was

713
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:24.920
in before, and then lovely bloke called Jim, It's a

714
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.960
really nice bloke, got really well with.

715
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:33.600
Him, and then from there.

716
01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:44.760
I lived in I'm just sort of thinking going forward. No, No,

717
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:52.359
I lived to another council house in ninety four. I

718
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:59.439
was renting a room. So that's ten, and then I

719
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:11.399
got other than ninety five another council house. I was

720
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:19.920
renting the room. Then ninety six another council house. Renting.

721
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.960
It's basically renting a flat, a sublet. I didn't realize

722
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:27.239
it was council but anyway, let's move on from that.

723
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:32.319
It's it's a room. So that was that's seven. That

724
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:51.479
was ninety six, and then nothing for four years. Yeah,

725
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:57.439
no more council from ninety well it's ninety six ninety seven,

726
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:02.960
so no more council places until I moved in here

727
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:13.760
in two thousand and fifteen, So twenty years of private renting,

728
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:17.920
just private. I did a lot for renting before that,

729
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:24.600
with intermittent council places. Yeah, from so from ninety seven

730
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:34.079
to twenty fifteen, Yeah, I didn't live in any other

731
01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:46.159
council places. Trying to think, No, no, I didn't, No,

732
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:54.680
I didn't, And I moved here and I've been here

733
01:17:54.800 --> 01:18:00.199
since ever since. So my calculations, I've lived dear in

734
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:11.479
eighteen different council properties or social housing for properties in

735
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:12.119
my life.

736
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:12.880
Now.

737
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:16.800
I don't know, it might be more, but that's what

738
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:26.119
I've calculated based on what I know. So I think

739
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:29.520
the idea is council housing is just to give everyone

740
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:34.439
an opportunity to have somewhere to live, because some of

741
01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:40.960
the places, especially well the early years, you know, early

742
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:49.840
nineteen hundreds or early twentieth century and even after the

743
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:53.800
Second World War, between the First World War second World War,

744
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:57.640
that there was a lot of really horrible places, slums

745
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:04.399
as it said on that website. And it seems that

746
01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:10.520
council housing has got more of a reputation these days

747
01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:17.399
of just being for people that are unemployed. But that's

748
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:20.560
not the case. It never was the case. It's just

749
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:28.600
it's down to priority. And also now there's a huge

750
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:33.560
waiting list. See if I was in London, i'd still

751
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:38.760
be waiting for a property even after ten years or twelve,

752
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:42.000
thirteen years whatever, you know, because I was on the

753
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:48.800
council waiting list before I would have been yeah, I

754
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:53.680
wouldn't have a property yet. Probably now part of the

755
01:19:53.680 --> 01:20:00.680
reason I got this property is when I got diagnosed

756
01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:06.720
a bipolar the second time, I was pretty ill, to

757
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:13.920
be honest, it was yeah, full on couldn't work and

758
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:19.119
had a proper you could say, a proper melt a

759
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:24.399
melt down or whatever. So my social worker. I had

760
01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:31.000
a social worker and she came with someone else around

761
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:33.720
to where I was living. That's when I was living

762
01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:37.720
in a basement in this see. I quite liked the

763
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:44.239
room in some ways, apart from the school opposite. It

764
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:54.039
was fairly quiet, so weekends at night pretty quiet. And

765
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:03.399
I did liked my previous room because I did somewhere

766
01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:08.119
else before that. For a year. I disliked that so

767
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:11.279
much that it was actually a relief to get out

768
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:14.000
of there because I'd had some problems with the people

769
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:17.920
who lived there, and also the property wasn't up it

770
01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:22.239
just it was way too expensive. I couldn't afford it,

771
01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:25.880
you know, So this was kind of a relief. But

772
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:30.119
then there was the problem of mold, which the landlord

773
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:37.239
didn't sort out, so and also a tiny room. When

774
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:40.880
my land when my social worker came in there, she

775
01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:42.840
couldn't believe it and she sat down. It was like

776
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:48.039
the room was smelly because of the mold, but also

777
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:51.720
it was so dark because there was no light coming

778
01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:57.119
in and it was so small. They struggled to kind

779
01:21:57.159 --> 01:21:58.720
of sit anywhere.

780
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:01.000
And she.

781
01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:06.840
Said, this isn't fit for living. It did tick all

782
01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:12.920
the legal requirements. It was exactly within the measurement of

783
01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:17.479
the law, you know, being wide enough and stuff. So

784
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:21.319
there was no laws being broken, although they should have.

785
01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:26.199
The landlord should have sorted the mold out, but that

786
01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:29.520
would probably be a civil case if it went to court.

787
01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:36.600
But even so, it was too small, it wasn't it

788
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:45.880
wasn't fit for human consumption where I lived. Because of that,

789
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:49.600
you know, she came and she helped me to sort

790
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:54.119
out and she helped me basically to sort out psychiatrists

791
01:22:54.239 --> 01:23:01.319
and therapy and benefits. She was great. She really helped

792
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:04.600
me with a lot of stuff because I couldn't really

793
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:08.840
function very well, so she helped me do it or

794
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:10.640
put me in touch with someone else that helped me

795
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:19.600
do it. And then about a year later, I was

796
01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:27.000
took about ten months for my benefits to come through properly,

797
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:32.760
so I was on minimum like sixty pounds a week

798
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:36.760
for nearly a year, and then the benefits came through

799
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:40.880
and I got my full benefits. So during that time

800
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:48.840
I just had to It was the analogy treading treading,

801
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:52.840
not treading pooh, treading water. I don't know, just plod

802
01:23:52.880 --> 01:24:01.359
along and kind of just wait, I suppose, And I

803
01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:04.279
remember I was eating I was shopping at I had

804
01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:09.239
to give would give twenty five pounds a week to

805
01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:12.199
my landlord to make up the rent because they weren't

806
01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:16.640
paying the full rent because it was sixty five a

807
01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:21.920
week and they were only paying forty, so I had

808
01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:23.760
to pay in twenty five. So that left me with

809
01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:28.119
not a lot. As I was going to Aldi, which

810
01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:32.319
is a really cheap shop here, and I was buying

811
01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:40.439
canned potatoes. Everything was cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap.

812
01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:48.800
I got through, but I just had so little to

813
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:53.079
get by, but I managed. I might have lost some weight,

814
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:56.239
I'm not sure, because I was doing a bit of

815
01:24:56.319 --> 01:24:59.640
exercise as well. Because at my punch bag in the

816
01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:04.520
kit Gin area, I had this little kitchenette. So there's

817
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:11.359
a sink and the cooker was basically a camping stove

818
01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:17.880
with I think one It might have had two rings.

819
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.359
I think there's one ring on top and a little

820
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:24.760
oven that you could fit a frozen meal inside. And

821
01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:28.520
there was a kettle, and there was a toaster, and

822
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:36.159
there was a unit and that was it. Really So

823
01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:38.600
I quite liked having that because then I didn't have

824
01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:41.960
to share a kitchen with anyone. But the toilet was

825
01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:50.159
shared or the bathroom brother. And because there was a

826
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:55.640
kitchen atte because it had a little kitchen, one landlord

827
01:25:55.680 --> 01:26:05.000
called it a flatlet, but for housing benefit they didn't.

828
01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:09.960
So he wanted sixty five. They said, now only going

829
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:12.720
to pay the himount for a room. All it is

830
01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:15.880
is a room with a little area where there's a

831
01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:19.159
few kitchen bits. So a room with a room with

832
01:26:19.239 --> 01:26:24.279
a sink. Basically, so I didn't get the full money.

833
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:27.640
And he used to chase me around he did. I

834
01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:32.039
used to have to hide sometimes, I have to dress up,

835
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:38.319
didn't disguise. It's always like like, where's the money, where's

836
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:44.439
my money? He got to the point where I'd feel guilty.

837
01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:48.239
So if he caught me, because he would hang around

838
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:51.600
waiting to see me come in. And I have carry bags.

839
01:26:52.199 --> 01:26:54.479
He said, what are you doing? Why if you haven't

840
01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:57.039
got my rent, how come you're going out buying stuff.

841
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:03.239
I said, it's food. It's food, sir. I needed to eat.

842
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:14.439
I'm sorry, sir. So that was a weird one. And

843
01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:21.920
then I I was waiting on a council list and

844
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:27.000
they said, oh, I basically probably had about a ten

845
01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:33.279
year weight to get on a council. So I sent

846
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:42.520
in information from my doctor for my psychiatrist, you know,

847
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:48.359
medication stuff about the bipolar and personality disorder. Actually I

848
01:27:48.359 --> 01:27:51.159
didn't know about the personality disorder at the time. They

849
01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:53.720
didn't tell me. One of those diagnosed, I didn't tell

850
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:58.039
me about that. I just said bipolar because I've already

851
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:04.560
been diagnosed with bipolar before two years earlier and being

852
01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:09.600
put on medication and decided not to take it, which

853
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:14.239
possibly wasn't a very good idea. So I just ignored it.

854
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:19.600
And then I'm well again, went through the whole process

855
01:28:19.640 --> 01:28:23.000
again and got diagnosed a second time. But they also

856
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:26.479
diagnosed me with a personality disorder, which I didn't realize

857
01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:35.159
until I started having psychotherapy. I think the thing is,

858
01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:39.079
the first time I was diagnosed with bipolar, it was

859
01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:51.039
one psych psychiatric session, and the second time I was diagnosed,

860
01:28:51.880 --> 01:29:00.399
I saw psychiatrists. I saw a few different psychiatrists, probably five,

861
01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:08.239
six times, maybe seven times. I don't know why they

862
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:12.439
had so many people look at me and interview me.

863
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:19.279
I think they call it. But yeah, so I've got

864
01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:22.560
all the notes. Actually, so I asked, because one of

865
01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:25.039
a couple of them were a little bit rude. One woman,

866
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:32.079
a psychiatrist who was very very judgy, very judgy. So

867
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:34.520
I asked the I went to my doctor surgery, and

868
01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:39.119
I said, I'd like to get access to all my

869
01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:44.119
doctor's notes because that would include the psychias the psychiatrist's

870
01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:47.920
notes that they made, and they gave it to me,

871
01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:51.079
and she had been rude, but not in a way

872
01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:56.399
that I could do anything. So she did she wrote down.

873
01:29:56.439 --> 01:29:58.760
So I'm not going to talk about what she wrote down,

874
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:01.319
but she wrote down on some personal stuff that I

875
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:05.079
told her. But when I told her that personal stuff,

876
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:11.359
she made some faces of like that and that like

877
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:21.800
very judging, very judge, judge, judge and judging. So I

878
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:24.800
said that information, not that information. But I sent doctor's

879
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:30.840
stuff to the council, to the housing department to see

880
01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:33.439
if I could be if that would help me get

881
01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:39.439
up the list a little bit instead of waiting for

882
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:42.159
ten years because I didn't at the time. I just

883
01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:50.680
that seemed as seemed an impossibility, and they still put

884
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:59.119
me down, as I think d so, so basically, if

885
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:04.000
you're the category they had me before was someone that

886
01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:08.800
didn't need anywhere to live, like it's almost like I

887
01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:11.840
lived in a perfect place. I had a full time

888
01:31:11.960 --> 01:31:15.079
job and everything was going well. That's the category I

889
01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:19.600
had of housed before, even though that wasn't the case.

890
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:22.279
Then they bumped me.

891
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:26.119
Up a little bit because of the doctor's notes and

892
01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:31.760
stuff like that. But still I think they categorized me

893
01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:39.520
as E category E or byby category B abc D D,

894
01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:47.000
which was not It's like quite low down. So I'd

895
01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:49.920
probably still be waiting now sort of five six years,

896
01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:55.760
maybe maybe longer. And then I contacted my social worker

897
01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:59.159
and I said to her, my asked her, I explained

898
01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:03.960
to the situation because she'd been in my property, and

899
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:08.000
she was surprised that I wasn't getting any kind of

900
01:32:09.359 --> 01:32:12.800
help because she'd help me with all the psychiatric stuff,

901
01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:18.399
she'd help me with the benefits side of things. She

902
01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:26.680
but she didn't. She was surprised at I was not

903
01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:30.720
being I was not being helped by the housing based

904
01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:35.520
on where I was living. It's because she'd lived spit.

905
01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:38.560
She hadn't lived with me. That'll be weird, because she'd

906
01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:43.439
visited my property and she knew how grotty it was,

907
01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:47.000
and I had no way of moving out of there

908
01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:52.319
at the time. I mean, you know, I just I

909
01:32:52.359 --> 01:32:57.840
was kind of stuck really, and she wrote a letter

910
01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:09.039
to the housing department, and I'm going to use the

911
01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:16.479
word ping ping. I was right near the top. I

912
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:18.680
wasn't at the top, but I was near the top.

913
01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:23.039
So this is I can't give you. I can't give

914
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:28.920
you an exact timeline. I know I moved out. It

915
01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:34.840
was April two thousand and fifteen. The exact timeline of

916
01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:39.920
when I moved out, or when I asked my social

917
01:33:40.039 --> 01:33:51.239
worker to if you'd write me a letter, probably six

918
01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:58.119
months earlier, possibly maybe even maybe it was shorter, maybe

919
01:33:58.119 --> 01:34:05.359
it was three months. And then I was able to

920
01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:10.159
start bidding, and I could see that there was thirty

921
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:13.760
people above me, and there was twenty people above me

922
01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:17.239
in the list. So you bid on something if there's

923
01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:21.479
twenty people above you, yeah, you know, basically not nothing's

924
01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:24.760
going to happen there. Then I started bidding and there

925
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:29.720
was five people above me. I was like, oh wow.

926
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:36.720
But it never sort of, you know, didn't. Sometimes they'd

927
01:34:36.760 --> 01:34:40.840
say there's like three hundred people are bidded for this property.

928
01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:43.720
There's no point in bidding for a property that's been

929
01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:49.159
bidded on by three hundred people unless I'm above them.

930
01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:54.479
So that's the thing. If you're higher up on the

931
01:34:54.560 --> 01:35:03.520
list of priorities, I guess then even if a thousand

932
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:08.680
people a bidded, if you're higher up, then you might

933
01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:20.560
get first DIBs. So what happened next? Is I or

934
01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:24.119
I did live in another council house. I just remembered

935
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:31.039
I lived another council house in nineteen eighty eight. I

936
01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:34.680
rented a room in a council house. Isn't that weird?

937
01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:46.039
I just remembered. So what's that? Nineteen different council places? Anyway, Eventually,

938
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:50.760
you know, not a long time after the social worker

939
01:35:52.159 --> 01:35:58.319
did that, I got offered a viewing, and this was

940
01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:02.239
the first property I looked at. Didn't look at any

941
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:05.039
of us, didn't get offered to look at any others.

942
01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:10.960
This was the first one. Although I did get offered

943
01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:14.640
to look at one near where my dad lives. But

944
01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:18.199
then they never got back to me until I'd lived

945
01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:22.720
here for about two months or a month. Hell, I

946
01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:26.119
missed a new land And are you still interested in

947
01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:32.560
that flat near where your dad lives? I said, how

948
01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:34.720
do you know that it's near where my dad lives?

949
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:39.600
But I said I can't now. I just moved into

950
01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:43.720
this place, and I did want that I did want

951
01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:50.840
to look at it, because maybe they would have let me.

952
01:36:52.359 --> 01:36:56.760
It's possible if I just said, look, that's the flat

953
01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:58.880
I wanted. I want to be near my dad or whatever.

954
01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:09.319
But how well, it's strange. But I was already living here,

955
01:37:09.319 --> 01:37:12.039
and I'd already signed the contract and I'd been here

956
01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:14.840
for a month, so I just said, no, I don't

957
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:19.720
worry about it. I kind of didn't really want to

958
01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:23.319
live in that other place either, because that town I've

959
01:37:23.359 --> 01:37:26.840
not really liked. I don't like it really, and this

960
01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:31.000
was new, and this was but it is a long

961
01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:36.920
way away from anywhere, and it's one of those things

962
01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:41.279
I would have missed out on a lot of experiences

963
01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:46.000
if I had not moved here. But then I would

964
01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:49.840
have had experiences there, wouldn't I, you know, wherever I went.

965
01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:56.359
But there's certain things that I would never have wanted

966
01:37:56.399 --> 01:38:00.279
to miss. One of those would have been Andre and

967
01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:02.359
I guess yeah, one would beginning now, wouldn't it. So

968
01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:10.319
those are the two things to two probably most important aspects.

969
01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:15.479
And as my friend downstairs, but so much that was hard.

970
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:20.880
It was such a hard, hard time at times. But

971
01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:27.439
we were really really close. And now what's going on?

972
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:36.479
With Uncle sausages. Yeah, it's there's no way of knowing

973
01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:39.920
what would have happened if I had moved to a

974
01:38:39.960 --> 01:38:42.159
different a different flat. I suppose.

975
01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:46.520
I hope.

976
01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:51.960
I hope I have explained what council housing is with

977
01:38:53.640 --> 01:39:05.359
this explanation. I hope I think I have. Yes. I mean,

978
01:39:05.399 --> 01:39:09.760
it's a great We're very lucky to have social housing.

979
01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:17.079
It's just there isn't enough now. And what happened in

980
01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:22.920
the eighties the government started to sell off council properties

981
01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:27.560
to people living in them, giving them the right to buy,

982
01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:33.800
which was great for the people living in them because

983
01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:37.479
they've got a chance to get onto the property Letterer,

984
01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:46.520
and also they got to buy the property for a

985
01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:49.720
lot less. They got to buy for a lot less

986
01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:54.000
than the property was valued at. So if I bought

987
01:39:54.039 --> 01:39:58.479
this property, I'd get probably maybe forty to fifty percent

988
01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:01.439
off the price if I bought it, if I purchased

989
01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:09.159
it at least forty which is a big amount, isn't it?

990
01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:12.119
Because you think I wouldn't be allowed to do anything

991
01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:15.079
with it or sell it for I think five years,

992
01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:19.680
But then in five years time it's going to be

993
01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:27.000
worth more than now. So yeah, it's it's a it's

994
01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:29.920
a win win situation if some if I you know,

995
01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:34.439
for someone doing that, So I understand why people would

996
01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:41.399
want to do it. But the results of it was

997
01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:48.640
the government didn't. They said they were going to apparently

998
01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:52.199
without getting political. I was a little kid, so I

999
01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:56.039
can't remember, but they were going to replace the housing

1000
01:40:56.119 --> 01:41:05.560
with new social housing. So nowadays there's a social housing

1001
01:41:05.640 --> 01:41:10.960
shortage because of how many people purchased. But they were

1002
01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:14.039
just doing what they were allowed to do, and they

1003
01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:23.119
took advantage of a situation. Which can't blame him for that,

1004
01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:26.279
you know. I mean, even.

1005
01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:28.680
My aunt.

1006
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:41.840
Bought my nanny granddad's house just before my granddad departed,

1007
01:41:43.079 --> 01:41:46.720
and so my nam lived there. She didn't have to

1008
01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:51.840
pay any rent, didn't have to I think she might

1009
01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:55.640
have paid the bills and I was it for the

1010
01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:03.479
from nineteen ninety one or nineteen ninety or whatever until

1011
01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:10.159
she stopped living there, and then my Auntie sold it

1012
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:14.119
and made a big profit. Would have been a big

1013
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:16.640
profit because it wouldn't have cost much to buy it.

1014
01:42:24.399 --> 01:42:28.279
So yeah, it was again that seemed a shame because

1015
01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:33.039
there was a council house that was a nice little

1016
01:42:33.079 --> 01:42:35.840
counsel estate that was that I lived in when I

1017
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:38.600
lived in that house, and then my nanogrand had moved

1018
01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:42.279
into the same house when we moved into a big

1019
01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:57.520
the house that my dad bought. Yeah, that was probably

1020
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:01.640
my favorite house ever. That house there and those two.

1021
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:09.159
Actually that house where I lived as a family kind

1022
01:43:09.159 --> 01:43:13.159
of for the first time when I was seven, and

1023
01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:18.079
then the house and mon Danny grand had lived there afterwards,

1024
01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:21.640
so I kind of was going into that house for decades.

1025
01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:26.600
The other house that I really loved was my uncle's

1026
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:32.520
house in Kent and he lived near the beach, had

1027
01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:37.119
his big house. It was just beautiful, beautiful house, massive

1028
01:43:37.159 --> 01:43:40.039
garden in the back, beautiful garden. But it was I

1029
01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:43.279
just had it for me. It wasn't that it was

1030
01:43:43.319 --> 01:43:47.199
a big house. It was the atmosphere. It had a

1031
01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:56.119
nice atmosphere, a nice, pleasant, gentle atmosphere, which was the

1032
01:43:56.239 --> 01:43:58.720
kind of person that my uncle was. I'd say it was.

1033
01:43:58.760 --> 01:44:00.760
I haven't seen him for a long time, but he's

1034
01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:09.439
still around. But it was gentle, it was kind, generous.

1035
01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:12.680
It was just a really nice person and I like that.

1036
01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:21.000
And yeah, so I really liked that house. I like

1037
01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:29.520
the atmosphere. Yeah, that's my two favorite houses. So far,

1038
01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:37.399
I would say, m what if any other houses I liked?

1039
01:44:38.600 --> 01:44:46.039
That's another that's a subject for another day. I suppose. Yeah.

1040
01:44:46.399 --> 01:44:53.239
So that's that's the answer to your question, Michelle. Can

1041
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:55.279
I explain what council housing is?

1042
01:44:56.000 --> 01:44:56.079
So?

1043
01:44:56.119 --> 01:44:58.680
I hope I have explained it. So it's basically social

1044
01:44:58.720 --> 01:45:06.960
housing or public housing. Although a public house is a pub,

1045
01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:12.560
isn't it so yeah, which is weird, but that's what

1046
01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:18.760
a pub is short for a public house, a house

1047
01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:23.239
where a public can go to and have a point.

1048
01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:27.600
I suppose maybe they didn't used to have alcohol they

1049
01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:31.560
had to start with, because I think sometimes they would

1050
01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:36.199
be it would be more like a hotel or a

1051
01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:40.640
motel or something, so people traveling could come and be

1052
01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:44.560
a place for the public to go, maybe get together

1053
01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:49.079
and discuss things that I don't know. I wasn't there.

1054
01:45:50.600 --> 01:45:55.000
I wasn't there. Don't ask me any more questions. So

1055
01:45:55.119 --> 01:45:59.960
that's that's the answer to that question, Michelle. I hope

1056
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:04.920
I've I hope the answer is everything you've ever hoped

1057
01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:13.239
it would be. I'm guessing everyone listening to this has

1058
01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:17.319
social housing where they live, but I might be wrong.

1059
01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:25.359
I know that in America they have. What do they

1060
01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:30.479
call it price, sort of like a fixed price in

1061
01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:36.600
or they used to where you could get rent which

1062
01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:48.039
was legally stuck at a certain price. I think I'm

1063
01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:51.479
wondering if the projects was that social housing. I think

1064
01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:55.399
it was, wasn't it. So it's kind of like the projects.

1065
01:46:55.439 --> 01:47:00.880
I suppose in some parts of America, the so many

1066
01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:03.520
Council of states, so the council estate would be where

1067
01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:08.520
the council blocks were or where the you know, the

1068
01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:10.960
council houses were. So I live on a Council of

1069
01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:19.000
State now, and yeah, I've believed in a few of

1070
01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:23.000
those over the years. Nineteen different council properties I've lived in.

1071
01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:29.640
I couldn't believe it. I've never really really looked into

1072
01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:32.239
it and added it up. I have had it up before,

1073
01:47:32.279 --> 01:47:37.479
but it never came to nineteen. I just remembered a

1074
01:47:37.479 --> 01:47:42.239
few more than I had before, and there might be

1075
01:47:42.319 --> 01:47:46.920
more than that, but nineteen that I have that, I

1076
01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:58.600
can say it was pretty much definite. Council nineteen nineteen. Wow,

1077
01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:05.039
blimey mm hmmmmm.

1078
01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:11.840
The next question is.

1079
01:48:15.520 --> 01:48:21.439
From Carro, What was the absolute happiest moment of your

1080
01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:34.560
life so far? Right now, right right this second. Never

1081
01:48:34.600 --> 01:48:38.920
been happier. I don't know, to be honest with you,

1082
01:48:39.039 --> 01:48:52.319
I've got no idea happiest moments. So far. There's a

1083
01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:54.720
few happy moments the son that I can't really say.

1084
01:48:55.560 --> 01:48:59.600
You know, first this and first that it was quite nice,

1085
01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:04.720
you know, first experience of certain things. That was quite

1086
01:49:04.760 --> 01:49:10.239
a nice moment. Those were nice moments. So but as

1087
01:49:10.279 --> 01:49:19.520
far as emotionally, okay, there isn't one, I don't think,

1088
01:49:19.640 --> 01:49:21.640
but there's a few, so I'll try and think of some.

1089
01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:28.159
The first one that comes to mind was I have

1090
01:49:28.279 --> 01:49:30.199
talked about this in the past, but it's been a

1091
01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:35.439
little while. It's when I had Andre for the first

1092
01:49:35.479 --> 01:49:41.560
couple of weeks. He absolutely he didn't like me, that's

1093
01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:45.520
an understatement. And I was constantly picking him up, and

1094
01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:50.720
he was constantly buying me. There was a real issue,

1095
01:49:50.840 --> 01:49:56.560
you know, really did not I didn't like me, but

1096
01:49:56.640 --> 01:50:00.800
I kept picking him up because I kind of felt

1097
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:02.920
that the only way for him to get used to

1098
01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:07.159
me holding him is to keep holding him. And ferrets

1099
01:50:07.239 --> 01:50:16.520
can be really vicious, actually if they're not, if they

1100
01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:21.840
don't have human contact, they can be a little bit. Yeah,

1101
01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:25.159
I actually met this bloke once in town when I

1102
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:28.880
had onre with me, and he told me that he

1103
01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:34.319
used to have a ferret and he would take it.

1104
01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:38.800
He would never touch it because it was so wild

1105
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:43.840
it would rip into his hands. So what he did

1106
01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:46.359
is he carried it around and he walked into pups

1107
01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:51.079
and he would bet anyone five pound. It'd say, if

1108
01:50:51.079 --> 01:50:54.039
you can hold my ferret for a minute, I'll give

1109
01:50:54.079 --> 01:50:56.760
you five pound, or if you can't, you give me

1110
01:50:56.880 --> 01:50:59.800
five pound. And he said, the whole time he did that,

1111
01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:01.840
no one could give him five pound, no one, no

1112
01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:04.359
one could win the five pound because as soon as

1113
01:51:04.399 --> 01:51:09.760
they picked him up, his ferret would bite and scratch them.

1114
01:51:10.119 --> 01:51:12.079
So I'm not sure if you earn't a living doing that,

1115
01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:20.199
but he troubled the world maybe. So here's the thing, Andre.

1116
01:51:22.319 --> 01:51:24.760
It got to the point where Andre would play and

1117
01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:27.680
he'd you know, it was very playful right from the beginning,

1118
01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:34.720
running around exploring and making this his home. But at

1119
01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:37.800
the same time, when I held him, I had to

1120
01:51:37.840 --> 01:51:43.560
literally put my finger and my thumb together around his neck.

1121
01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:48.680
That's how little he was to stop him from biting me.

1122
01:51:50.359 --> 01:51:53.239
You know, I mean it. He could still move around,

1123
01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:59.880
but he was tiny, and it was okay when he

1124
01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:03.199
was when I wasn't holding him, he didn't try and

1125
01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:06.319
bite me. Then he would try and bite my feet,

1126
01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:09.279
but then he never stopped that. He loved biting my feet.

1127
01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:13.319
He was obsessed with feet. It's a name for that,

1128
01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:22.159
isn't there perverts? It was a pervert. So one day,

1129
01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:24.800
it was a Saturday evening. This is when I was

1130
01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:29.439
still drinking larger at the weekend, which I haven't done

1131
01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.920
for many, many years. So I was sitting down in

1132
01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:38.760
my black squeaky chair that wasn't squeaking yet the other

1133
01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:44.079
side of the room with my little TV on the wall.

1134
01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:47.840
I think it was on the wall, but it was

1135
01:52:47.880 --> 01:52:54.239
a small TV, but my eyesight was able to see

1136
01:52:54.399 --> 01:52:56.720
the TV. In the end, I had to get a

1137
01:52:56.720 --> 01:53:03.960
bigger TV. Well, I suppose I could have got glasses anyway.

1138
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:05.399
So I'm sitting there.

1139
01:53:06.399 --> 01:53:08.039
I've got a beer can.

1140
01:53:07.960 --> 01:53:12.600
Holder on the armrest, so I got that there. I

1141
01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:18.359
think that's on my right hand. I got me a

1142
01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:22.399
blue dressing gown on. I got my feet up on

1143
01:53:22.439 --> 01:53:24.920
the because it was a recliner. It was like a

1144
01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:29.159
lazy boy bird, like a really really cheap version. I

1145
01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:32.920
think it was about one hundred and fifty pounds but

1146
01:53:33.199 --> 01:53:37.920
it did the trick. It lasted, lasted a few years,

1147
01:53:38.520 --> 01:53:44.640
it did wear out. So I'm just watching the boxing.

1148
01:53:45.960 --> 01:53:50.880
Very likely it was an Antony Joshua fight or you

1149
01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:53.640
know the bill. I'll probably probably watching the undercard. At

1150
01:53:53.640 --> 01:54:02.760
this point, Andre climbed up my leg, climbed onto my

1151
01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:04.880
waist and you know, so I've got the dressing count

1152
01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:10.680
and I'm thinking I'll watch where he's going because there's

1153
01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:15.239
certain parts I didn't want him to buy. And he

1154
01:54:15.319 --> 01:54:21.399
climbed onto the arm rest and walked up my sleeve,

1155
01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:25.399
my dressing gown sleeve. But he walked up the bottom,

1156
01:54:26.199 --> 01:54:30.039
so I had my hand. I don't know if somethy walked. Yeah,

1157
01:54:30.159 --> 01:54:33.119
so he crawled through the bottom of the sleeve. So

1158
01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:36.640
it was he was and basically his went to sleep

1159
01:54:38.319 --> 01:54:46.800
in the dressing gown sleeve on my left arm, buried

1160
01:54:46.840 --> 01:54:51.880
in mind. He didn't like me up to this point,

1161
01:54:53.720 --> 01:54:56.920
and it was probably two weeks i'd say, just before

1162
01:54:56.960 --> 01:55:00.399
this happened. I used to have videos of him by me.

1163
01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:03.079
He bit me on the face once. I mean, he

1164
01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:09.279
just really because his teeth was shut razor sharp, especially

1165
01:55:09.319 --> 01:55:13.199
when there's a baby. They were like, oh, it's such

1166
01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:19.119
a strong jaw, so he climbed up and I thought

1167
01:55:19.720 --> 01:55:22.920
I was just waiting to feel the bike. To be honest,

1168
01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:25.960
I thought he was going to bite me, because when

1169
01:55:25.960 --> 01:55:29.479
Ferret's bike, they do the same thing that crocodiles do

1170
01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:33.600
and possibly sharks do. They do the role, you know,

1171
01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:38.199
like out of the crocodile role. So because he only

1172
01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:41.720
got he's only got little feet, little legs, so they

1173
01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:45.600
bite and then they turn around to rip off. You know,

1174
01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:50.960
it's it's it's not good. But he didn't do that.

1175
01:55:53.000 --> 01:56:03.800
He just went to sleep. And when I realized he

1176
01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:07.079
was a sleep, because I kin'd of a look down

1177
01:56:07.119 --> 01:56:11.119
there just about I might have got my phone and

1178
01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:13.520
just you know, filmed so I could see where he was.

1179
01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:27.199
I can't remember exactly, and it was so nice. I

1180
01:56:27.199 --> 01:56:39.119
felt amazing. It's almost like I had tamed tamed the world. Donkey.

1181
01:56:39.279 --> 01:56:42.199
I don't know. That's not good expression, is it, But

1182
01:56:42.319 --> 01:56:47.760
you know it's because he really I can't express enough

1183
01:56:47.880 --> 01:56:54.720
how much he was trying to take me out by

1184
01:56:54.800 --> 01:57:00.800
biting me. He really wanted me gone. And then I

1185
01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:05.840
think he gave up and he just climbed up and

1186
01:57:06.079 --> 01:57:11.279
made his peace, and from then on we were close well,

1187
01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:16.880
we were just super close. Never ever tried to bite

1188
01:57:16.880 --> 01:57:20.720
me again ever after that, apart from when we play

1189
01:57:20.800 --> 01:57:26.479
fit went play fit. When we play fighted, he would

1190
01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:31.960
bite me, but it was like playing, and it took

1191
01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:34.119
a little while because he would bite me playing. But

1192
01:57:34.199 --> 01:57:39.239
I could, I say gentle and as soon as a

1193
01:57:39.399 --> 01:57:45.239
gentle id easther, so we knew exactly what gentle. I

1194
01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:47.840
don't know how he knew what gentleman, but he just

1195
01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:51.920
knew and so gentle and he just loosing his jaw

1196
01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:54.439
a little bit because he didn't want to hurt me anymore.

1197
01:57:55.359 --> 01:57:59.439
He was just playing because we used to have these

1198
01:57:59.479 --> 01:58:02.920
little fight It's like hide and seek and stuff like that.

1199
01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:06.439
One thing we used to like to do is on

1200
01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:12.520
the bed with the so I got a continental quilt

1201
01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:15.880
kind of they called continental quilts anymore. I had a

1202
01:58:15.920 --> 01:58:21.000
quill on the bed, and he'd hide under the quill

1203
01:58:21.319 --> 01:58:26.119
and I'd look for him, and then sometimes he'd jump

1204
01:58:26.159 --> 01:58:29.479
out a different end and he just grabbed me, grabbed

1205
01:58:29.479 --> 01:58:35.479
my hand, and then he'd run off again like squeal screech,

1206
01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:39.640
and then run off again underneath the bed covers, or

1207
01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:41.520
he'd jump off the bed then jump on me from

1208
01:58:41.520 --> 01:58:44.039
a different angle. So we had a lot of fun

1209
01:58:44.279 --> 01:58:49.439
playing like that. But he would bite me, but it

1210
01:58:49.479 --> 01:58:53.560
was he'd be gentle, you know, was he was. He

1211
01:58:53.680 --> 01:58:55.600
never meant to hurt me after that, It was it

1212
01:58:55.640 --> 01:58:59.479
was accidental. He could be a little bit nippy, but

1213
01:58:59.600 --> 01:59:10.439
it was just because he got over excited. And it

1214
01:59:10.479 --> 01:59:13.119
was but that particular occasion, when he climbed up my

1215
01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:23.560
dressing gown sleeve, it felt so nice and I didn't

1216
01:59:23.600 --> 01:59:27.520
want it to end. I didn't want that feeling to

1217
01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:32.439
stop because I felt close, so close to him for

1218
01:59:32.479 --> 01:59:35.159
the first time. Really, I mean, I fell in love

1219
01:59:35.159 --> 01:59:38.239
with him the second I saw him. But he didn't

1220
01:59:38.239 --> 01:59:43.079
feel the same way. He really didn't. He didn't want

1221
01:59:43.399 --> 01:59:45.720
I think he liked being up here because he had

1222
01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:47.640
all his space was quite a lot of space for

1223
01:59:47.640 --> 01:59:50.319
a little ferret, and he could do what he wanted,

1224
01:59:51.760 --> 01:59:54.960
and you know, he just could run around and he

1225
01:59:54.960 --> 01:59:58.600
could make little nests wherever he wanted sleepway he wanted

1226
01:59:58.600 --> 02:00:04.840
to sleep. But he wasn't a big fan of being

1227
02:00:04.840 --> 02:00:16.159
picked up. And then when he climbed up into you know,

1228
02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:19.600
into the sleeve, my left sleeve of my blue dressing girl,

1229
02:00:21.439 --> 02:00:25.840
I was sitting there, I had my can of lager.

1230
02:00:26.119 --> 02:00:34.640
Probably I probably had it in my right armrest hole

1231
02:00:35.239 --> 02:00:38.920
you know where the can went? The can of Foster's. Actually,

1232
02:00:39.039 --> 02:00:43.039
I can't remember that. And I was watching the boxing,

1233
02:00:43.199 --> 02:00:47.079
but I didn't need to go do we Wei, because

1234
02:00:49.119 --> 02:00:51.039
because I was drinking lager, I mean I used to.

1235
02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:55.920
After the first two cans, that would be it. I'd

1236
02:00:56.000 --> 02:00:59.399
be into in the toilet every twenty minutes pretty much.

1237
02:01:04.520 --> 02:01:07.680
But I didn't want to put him down. So what

1238
02:01:07.760 --> 02:01:10.960
I did is I needed to go to the toilet.

1239
02:01:11.199 --> 02:01:14.960
I held my arms straight so that he stayed in there.

1240
02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:16.800
I think I probably held the bottom of the sleeve

1241
02:01:18.279 --> 02:01:20.680
and I went to the toilet while he was still

1242
02:01:22.680 --> 02:01:25.000
in my sleeve of my dressing account because I didn't

1243
02:01:25.000 --> 02:01:28.359
want to let him go, because I thought it felt

1244
02:01:28.399 --> 02:01:34.960
like a bonding experience, and I thought if I woke

1245
02:01:35.039 --> 02:01:37.720
him up and he jumps off, he might have forgotten

1246
02:01:37.760 --> 02:01:44.640
that he likes me. So I did that, and he

1247
02:01:44.760 --> 02:01:48.319
was in my sleep for at least two hours, maybe longer,

1248
02:01:49.520 --> 02:01:57.880
fast asleep, And from that moment on, literally he just

1249
02:01:58.680 --> 02:02:03.359
his attitude towards me changed, and he'd climb onto my

1250
02:02:03.439 --> 02:02:06.720
lap and he cuddle me, he'd let me pick him

1251
02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:08.399
up and never try and bite me. If I picked

1252
02:02:08.439 --> 02:02:13.560
him up, he'd rub his face over my beard, he

1253
02:02:13.800 --> 02:02:18.760
kiss give me kisses. He'd let me stroke his tummy.

1254
02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:22.640
And it's fall asleep on my lap, he'd yeah, it was.

1255
02:02:23.439 --> 02:02:26.680
He's asleep in the bedroom. He sometimes he sleep on

1256
02:02:26.680 --> 02:02:29.880
the bed when I wasn't there. He loved that. You

1257
02:02:29.920 --> 02:02:31.880
can't believe a little fairy could take up a whole

1258
02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:37.800
double bed, ridiculous. He just stretch right out and because

1259
02:02:37.840 --> 02:02:42.239
he had his tail was quite long. And that was

1260
02:02:42.279 --> 02:02:45.880
one of my happy moments. So I don't have like

1261
02:02:45.960 --> 02:02:51.840
a one particular happiest moment of my life so far.

1262
02:02:52.920 --> 02:02:59.039
Another really happy moment would be when I had a date,

1263
02:02:59.840 --> 02:03:03.000
very first proper date, when I was eight years old,

1264
02:03:03.920 --> 02:03:09.680
maybe seven to eight, and I had my own room.

1265
02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:13.880
It's the first time I'd ever had my own room.

1266
02:03:13.960 --> 02:03:17.439
And this is We're in the council house that my

1267
02:03:17.640 --> 02:03:23.119
Nani grandad moved into when we moved out, so there

1268
02:03:23.199 --> 02:03:25.920
was this It was kind of like a box room really,

1269
02:03:25.960 --> 02:03:27.760
but it was big enough for me because I was

1270
02:03:27.880 --> 02:03:32.159
only little, had a single bed, plenty of room for

1271
02:03:32.239 --> 02:03:35.840
toys and stuff like that, and we hadn't at this

1272
02:03:35.920 --> 02:03:37.840
point got a lot of toys because we'd only been

1273
02:03:37.840 --> 02:03:40.920
there for a year, so we hadn't accrued, you know,

1274
02:03:42.039 --> 02:03:45.520
years and years worth of toys and stuff, just like

1275
02:03:45.800 --> 02:03:49.119
we'd just been like a year, like one Christmas and

1276
02:03:49.479 --> 02:03:55.159
one birthday, I think maybe yeah, one birthday. So and

1277
02:03:55.239 --> 02:03:58.319
I had this picture of Bruce Lee on the wall.

1278
02:03:59.039 --> 02:04:01.039
I don't remember. I don't know how, I don't know

1279
02:04:01.039 --> 02:04:02.920
who put it up there, but I'm glad they did.

1280
02:04:07.279 --> 02:04:14.920
And there was this one occasion, as I said, I

1281
02:04:14.960 --> 02:04:20.159
had this a Saturday morning, I had a date where

1282
02:04:20.279 --> 02:04:24.319
I was going to go, and in a way, the

1283
02:04:24.439 --> 02:04:27.920
whole day was quite special, but the first bit of

1284
02:04:27.920 --> 02:04:32.479
that day was particularly special because it's just a fond

1285
02:04:32.520 --> 02:04:39.159
memory that I have. So I'm asleep. My dad wakes

1286
02:04:39.239 --> 02:04:44.520
me up, probably eight o'clock because I had to go

1287
02:04:44.640 --> 02:04:48.399
get my breakfast, and I'm not sure. I think he

1288
02:04:48.520 --> 02:04:52.600
might have been giving me a lift to pick my

1289
02:04:53.159 --> 02:04:56.359
girlfriend from school up to take it to the cinema.

1290
02:04:59.000 --> 02:05:00.800
But I remember he woke me up, and I was

1291
02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:08.359
so excited, so excited that I grabbed hold of him

1292
02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:12.439
and just gave him the biggest hug I think I've

1293
02:05:12.439 --> 02:05:18.319
ever given anyone ever. I was so full of happiness,

1294
02:05:21.439 --> 02:05:27.199
and I don't know where it really is just I

1295
02:05:27.199 --> 02:05:29.239
don't know, just it's how I felt at them in

1296
02:05:29.319 --> 02:05:38.359
that moment. I felt so much, so much, oh, just happy.

1297
02:05:39.159 --> 02:05:43.760
I remember that. I've always remembered that. What other moments

1298
02:05:49.680 --> 02:05:51.479
there was that time when my girlfriend told me she

1299
02:05:51.560 --> 02:06:00.520
wasn't pregnant. No jacking trying to I'm just going to

1300
02:06:00.560 --> 02:06:04.199
go through my life when there's a it hasn't been

1301
02:06:04.279 --> 02:06:04.840
this thing lately.

1302
02:06:04.920 --> 02:06:12.880
I tell you, h happiest so I can't.

1303
02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:22.279
There's not one happiest moment, but a happy moment. When

1304
02:06:22.319 --> 02:06:27.680
my dad had an operation and survived the operation, that

1305
02:06:27.800 --> 02:06:31.119
was a happy moment. So I was about eleven. He

1306
02:06:31.239 --> 02:06:35.319
had to have a growth from his neck removed and

1307
02:06:35.439 --> 02:06:39.640
it was this it was a benign growth, but it

1308
02:06:39.680 --> 02:06:43.479
was where it was where it was. It was a

1309
02:06:43.560 --> 02:06:54.439
real problem. So it's an extremely difficult op. But he

1310
02:06:54.520 --> 02:06:56.359
came through it and it was it was good. So

1311
02:06:56.560 --> 02:07:04.720
that was that was a happy moment. I'm trying to think.

1312
02:07:06.399 --> 02:07:11.399
I'm trying to think of time when I felt I mean,

1313
02:07:11.800 --> 02:07:16.079
I think sometimes a sense of relief can be a

1314
02:07:16.119 --> 02:07:20.159
sense of happiness. There's been times when I've been asleep

1315
02:07:20.199 --> 02:07:25.800
and I've I dreamt that I have to get up

1316
02:07:25.840 --> 02:07:31.479
and go to the job that I had before. And

1317
02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:34.880
I mean not so much now, but back then, shortly

1318
02:07:34.920 --> 02:07:37.000
after I wasn't you know, when I wasn't there anymore,

1319
02:07:37.800 --> 02:07:40.000
I dreamt about having to go in there, and then

1320
02:07:40.520 --> 02:07:45.159
I woke up and realized I didn't. Huge amount of

1321
02:07:45.159 --> 02:08:02.720
happiness came over me in that moment. I'm trying to think,

1322
02:08:02.760 --> 02:08:06.039
if I start, I can't. It's hard to work backwards.

1323
02:08:06.039 --> 02:08:14.359
So if I go forwards, happy moments in my life enough.

1324
02:08:14.840 --> 02:08:18.119
I mean, you know, there might have been stuff very

1325
02:08:18.119 --> 02:08:21.560
early on because I don't remember, so I don't really

1326
02:08:21.600 --> 02:08:26.239
record anything nice happening in the first year because I

1327
02:08:26.279 --> 02:08:32.399
was too young. Second year, third year, fourth year, fifth year,

1328
02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:39.920
six now, actually when I was about six, it was

1329
02:08:40.039 --> 02:08:41.840
it wasn't the happiest moment, but it was a it

1330
02:08:41.880 --> 02:08:48.720
was a nice moment. Went to watch because part of

1331
02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:51.840
the when I was in a children's home in South End,

1332
02:08:52.359 --> 02:08:55.359
we used to because they've got a big pier there

1333
02:08:55.399 --> 02:08:58.119
and they've got it, you know, they've got like a

1334
02:08:58.199 --> 02:09:05.680
proper entertainment thing. Knew their theater. I went to see

1335
02:09:06.439 --> 02:09:12.000
Jack and the bean Stalk, so that was. That was

1336
02:09:12.039 --> 02:09:18.039
really good. I enjoyed that, I really did. That's like

1337
02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:23.640
a happy memory from my childhood of that period. And

1338
02:09:28.119 --> 02:09:28.880
there's there is one.

1339
02:09:28.880 --> 02:09:29.560
There's another one.

1340
02:09:30.399 --> 02:09:32.840
I was watching Planet the Apes that game in the

1341
02:09:32.880 --> 02:09:38.000
same Hildren time itself, and the care worker because they

1342
02:09:38.319 --> 02:09:40.479
although it was run by nuns, they also had care

1343
02:09:40.520 --> 02:09:44.199
workers come as well. And the care worker I really

1344
02:09:44.279 --> 02:09:47.520
liked her a lot. And we were watching Planet the Apes.

1345
02:09:47.640 --> 02:09:50.159
It was the one where the apes were on horses,

1346
02:09:50.920 --> 02:09:54.840
so I'm not sure which one that was, and she

1347
02:09:54.960 --> 02:09:59.600
was tickling me, not the horses or the apes. The lady,

1348
02:09:59.640 --> 02:10:03.319
the care work and she was tickling me, and I

1349
02:10:03.560 --> 02:10:07.720
just I don't think I've ever laughed as much since

1350
02:10:08.960 --> 02:10:14.239
it just I just couldn't stop laughing. It was so lovely.

1351
02:10:14.319 --> 02:10:17.960
I just, I mean, in a way, having physical contact

1352
02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:22.359
was quite nice because I didn't have like adults, parents

1353
02:10:22.399 --> 02:10:25.720
or whatever at the time, and the nurses, the nuns,

1354
02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:30.199
weren't really particularly There was no hot you know, hand

1355
02:10:30.199 --> 02:10:33.960
holding or cuddles or anything from her nun, so it

1356
02:10:34.039 --> 02:10:37.720
was quite nice just to have that. I have someone

1357
02:10:37.720 --> 02:10:41.439
that I really liked tickling me. I mean, I'm add

1358
02:10:41.479 --> 02:10:43.399
with my own emotions to it now. I mean, I

1359
02:10:43.439 --> 02:10:46.039
think at the time I probably just enjoyed being tickled,

1360
02:10:46.760 --> 02:10:51.720
but I was body six six years old and I

1361
02:10:51.880 --> 02:10:56.800
just could not stop laughing. I remember, it's always I

1362
02:10:56.840 --> 02:10:59.680
remember the SETTI the outlay of the house or the

1363
02:10:59.760 --> 02:11:03.279
room I was in. I was on the carpet, and

1364
02:11:03.399 --> 02:11:04.840
there was two of us. I don't know if it

1365
02:11:04.920 --> 02:11:09.319
was me, and it might be my brother, but you know,

1366
02:11:09.399 --> 02:11:12.000
he had his own friends because both my older brothers

1367
02:11:12.079 --> 02:11:15.039
were what they were older than me, but they were

1368
02:11:15.319 --> 02:11:17.760
one was two years older, one was four years older.

1369
02:11:18.359 --> 02:11:22.800
So we didn't really hang out together. But at the

1370
02:11:22.840 --> 02:11:27.000
same time, if you live in a place like that,

1371
02:11:28.439 --> 02:11:34.119
everyone kind of becomes your family. All the other boys

1372
02:11:34.159 --> 02:11:38.560
and all the other girls there. I don't know how

1373
02:11:38.560 --> 02:11:42.479
many there was, maybe fifty, forty thirty, I don't know,

1374
02:11:43.000 --> 02:11:45.880
no idea how many there was, maybe one hundred, but

1375
02:11:45.920 --> 02:11:48.039
they were all going to become your family. They've got

1376
02:11:48.159 --> 02:11:52.800
brothers and sisters. Really, And I was in a dormitory

1377
02:11:52.840 --> 02:11:58.560
with boys, and again it might have been there might

1378
02:11:58.560 --> 02:12:01.840
have been different dormitories and age boys. I can't I

1379
02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:07.319
really can't remember, but they, you know, we were washing together,

1380
02:12:07.359 --> 02:12:10.560
we were sleeping together. We were praying together, we were going

1381
02:12:10.640 --> 02:12:14.520
to school together, playing together outside of school, you know,

1382
02:12:14.600 --> 02:12:18.520
so we were kind of all and because we were

1383
02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:22.960
the odd ones out at school, because we were the orphan,

1384
02:12:23.279 --> 02:12:26.920
we were awful an. He's on me, I suppose, so

1385
02:12:27.159 --> 02:12:32.920
we kind of stuck stuck together. So I'm saying, so

1386
02:12:33.079 --> 02:12:40.159
a lot. That's a nice memory. That's that's one of

1387
02:12:40.199 --> 02:12:46.840
the Yeah, it's the only two nice memories I've got,

1388
02:12:48.319 --> 02:12:57.000
probably up to the age of seven. Mm hmmm.

1389
02:13:02.159 --> 02:13:02.279
Oh.

1390
02:13:02.359 --> 02:13:07.520
There was another nice memory when my aunt This is

1391
02:13:07.640 --> 02:13:10.399
just before we moved in with my dad and his

1392
02:13:10.560 --> 02:13:14.199
new wife at the weekend, because they started having us

1393
02:13:14.199 --> 02:13:16.640
at weekends just to get to know us in that

1394
02:13:18.199 --> 02:13:21.119
and my dad didn't know me, hadn't seen me since

1395
02:13:21.199 --> 02:13:24.680
I was a baby, so I didn't know who he was.

1396
02:13:24.840 --> 02:13:27.239
He didn't know who I was, so it took a

1397
02:13:27.319 --> 02:13:30.159
while for us to kind of him to get to

1398
02:13:30.239 --> 02:13:37.319
know me and stuff. And on this particular weekend, they

1399
02:13:37.359 --> 02:13:39.640
weren't able to have us because I think my dad's

1400
02:13:39.960 --> 02:13:45.239
first wife or second wife sorry was she was unwell.

1401
02:13:47.199 --> 02:13:50.640
So what happened is my Auntie came across instead and

1402
02:13:50.720 --> 02:13:54.119
took us to London and we stayed with her and

1403
02:13:54.239 --> 02:13:58.239
her boyfriend in London, and she basically took us out

1404
02:13:58.279 --> 02:14:03.840
for the weekend to all the London sites. Tower of London,

1405
02:14:06.880 --> 02:14:13.239
I suppose, probably the museums, the mad in two sorts.

1406
02:14:14.720 --> 02:14:17.119
Trying to think what other things are in London, but

1407
02:14:17.560 --> 02:14:20.159
you know, we went to quite a few things. That

1408
02:14:20.359 --> 02:14:24.319
was a really good weekend, like a really good weekend.

1409
02:14:25.960 --> 02:14:30.239
So I did. I enjoyed that. I don't remember it

1410
02:14:30.560 --> 02:14:37.800
like really clearly, but I remember I think my Auntie

1411
02:14:38.119 --> 02:14:41.800
got some winkles and they winkles. They are like these

1412
02:14:41.880 --> 02:14:50.399
little fishy things, and I was not eating them, nope,

1413
02:14:51.319 --> 02:14:54.119
so they were settling them on this. I went to

1414
02:14:54.439 --> 02:14:58.680
Trafalgar Square as well, I remember that, but I wasn't

1415
02:14:58.800 --> 02:15:06.239
having any of that seafoo with stuff. And other than that,

1416
02:15:06.319 --> 02:15:12.960
I'm trying to think anything from my childhood before that time.

1417
02:15:14.119 --> 02:15:17.279
I got some memories, but just nice memories. I can't

1418
02:15:17.399 --> 02:15:29.359
think of anything. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that was That's

1419
02:15:29.399 --> 02:15:32.239
a nice memory. There was a nice memory of going

1420
02:15:32.319 --> 02:15:36.319
to the theater. But a happy memory would be the

1421
02:15:36.399 --> 02:15:38.880
one where I was just being tickled. I was happy.

1422
02:15:39.760 --> 02:15:46.000
That was a really Yeah. The thing is I wasn't

1423
02:15:46.039 --> 02:15:49.680
a happy kid. I don't mean this negatively, but I

1424
02:15:49.760 --> 02:15:54.920
didn't really know what happiness was. I didn't really you know,

1425
02:15:55.760 --> 02:15:58.560
it's I was just I suppose I had moments when

1426
02:15:58.640 --> 02:16:02.479
I was laughing around and joking and having fun and

1427
02:16:02.560 --> 02:16:08.720
other times when I wasn't. But everything was so unstable

1428
02:16:09.600 --> 02:16:14.680
for the first seven years that I didn't I don't

1429
02:16:14.680 --> 02:16:18.720
think I really kind of settled, which would explain why

1430
02:16:18.760 --> 02:16:22.319
I haven't settled as an adult. I've moved around so much.

1431
02:16:25.279 --> 02:16:33.399
Perhaps I'm trying to think of something. There must be

1432
02:16:33.840 --> 02:16:36.520
what I'll do. I'll go forward in time, but I'll

1433
02:16:36.600 --> 02:16:39.440
try and still kind of in the back of my mind,

1434
02:16:40.040 --> 02:16:45.000
skin through looking, still searching for if there's any happy memories.

1435
02:16:46.319 --> 02:16:55.399
So at the age of seven, moving leaving the children's

1436
02:16:55.440 --> 02:17:04.040
home like forever, that was a happy, happy moment, moving

1437
02:17:04.120 --> 02:17:11.120
in with my new mom and my dad and my

1438
02:17:11.399 --> 02:17:15.399
new mom's grandmother. So I'd never really had a grandmother

1439
02:17:15.479 --> 02:17:20.479
before in my memory when my obviously had my nanny Newland,

1440
02:17:20.559 --> 02:17:24.840
but I didn't ever, didn't know who she was until

1441
02:17:26.639 --> 02:17:30.040
that same period. So, you know, I was spending more

1442
02:17:30.079 --> 02:17:33.799
time with my step grandmother because she because I was

1443
02:17:33.879 --> 02:17:40.239
living with her, And then.

1444
02:17:46.920 --> 02:17:49.680
There was there was a time when my dad taught us.

1445
02:17:49.639 --> 02:17:51.559
To ride bikes because we none of us had had

1446
02:17:51.600 --> 02:17:54.920
a bike before. Well I hadn't had a bike before anyway,

1447
02:17:55.680 --> 02:17:58.680
I couldn't ride. I think my oldest brother brother probably

1448
02:17:58.719 --> 02:18:01.200
could ride a bike. He was four years older than me,

1449
02:18:02.000 --> 02:18:04.799
and he probably had had a bike before, but me

1450
02:18:04.959 --> 02:18:09.600
and my other brother hadn't. So my dad was teaching

1451
02:18:09.680 --> 02:18:15.680
us how to ride a bike, and that was that

1452
02:18:15.959 --> 02:18:22.520
was an unusual situation. The thing about it is at

1453
02:18:22.600 --> 02:18:26.559
the time my dad was so gentle. It was like

1454
02:18:26.639 --> 02:18:30.680
a gentle giant. So my dad's always been a big bloke.

1455
02:18:30.799 --> 02:18:34.040
He's not like usually tall, but he's very wide, very strong,

1456
02:18:35.399 --> 02:18:39.600
and especially when I was little, when I was like

1457
02:18:40.200 --> 02:18:46.040
six seven or seven eight nine, he was just like

1458
02:18:46.120 --> 02:18:50.799
a big, huge bear. But he was also really gentle

1459
02:18:50.879 --> 02:18:55.079
back then. He was so softly spoken, had a big beard,

1460
02:18:56.520 --> 02:19:01.040
and he was just he is a happy memory, but

1461
02:19:01.200 --> 02:19:05.319
it's not specific, but it's something that he used to do.

1462
02:19:05.959 --> 02:19:11.239
He used to let me climb onto his neck, and

1463
02:19:11.319 --> 02:19:13.319
I think the reason for that is because no one

1464
02:19:13.360 --> 02:19:18.000
had ever done that before, and I'd seen other kids

1465
02:19:18.360 --> 02:19:23.000
doing that with their dads, so I wanted to do it.

1466
02:19:24.200 --> 02:19:26.040
And I was the only one that was small enough

1467
02:19:26.079 --> 02:19:30.559
to do it with because my other brother was He

1468
02:19:30.719 --> 02:19:32.959
was two years older than me, so at the time,

1469
02:19:33.079 --> 02:19:38.760
he would have been about eighteen. So I was like seven,

1470
02:19:39.360 --> 02:19:42.879
and I was probably still too old. But I was

1471
02:19:43.319 --> 02:19:47.040
like a little monkey. Honestly, I was tiny. I was

1472
02:19:47.280 --> 02:19:53.440
under undersize. I was probably the size of a five

1473
02:19:53.520 --> 02:19:57.799
year old when I was seven. And so he had

1474
02:19:57.840 --> 02:20:01.159
me on his neck. And the thing is, I didn't

1475
02:20:01.200 --> 02:20:04.680
know right he'd broken his neck when he was younger,

1476
02:20:05.399 --> 02:20:07.639
so me being on his neck was really painful for

1477
02:20:07.719 --> 02:20:10.920
him because he still had issues with it. He has

1478
02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:13.639
his whole life since, so he was in his twenties

1479
02:20:13.680 --> 02:20:20.479
when he broke his neck. So but it's still put

1480
02:20:20.559 --> 02:20:22.479
me on his neck and still allowed me to like

1481
02:20:23.440 --> 02:20:25.799
do all kids do, like pulling his hair and all

1482
02:20:25.840 --> 02:20:31.040
that stuff, and holding on to his ears and going come.

1483
02:20:30.959 --> 02:20:32.719
On, gidy up, gidy up.

1484
02:20:34.840 --> 02:20:36.959
I'd see the other kids do it. Plus there was

1485
02:20:36.959 --> 02:20:41.120
a lot of Westerns on TV at the time, and

1486
02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:44.319
eventually he had to say I couldn't do it anymore

1487
02:20:44.319 --> 02:20:47.399
because it was hurting and I was getting too big,

1488
02:20:48.719 --> 02:20:53.520
which I wasn't. I mean, i'd probably I'm going to

1489
02:20:53.559 --> 02:20:55.399
do the old I'm going to do the same joke again.

1490
02:20:55.680 --> 02:21:04.719
But Dad, I'm only twenty eight, but I remember that

1491
02:21:04.760 --> 02:21:11.479
because I felt safe. He was the only person. See,

1492
02:21:11.479 --> 02:21:14.319
he doesn't know this, and I wish if you'd have

1493
02:21:14.399 --> 02:21:17.840
known this, I think it would have changed things. But

1494
02:21:18.360 --> 02:21:22.520
being with him when I was seven was the first

1495
02:21:22.600 --> 02:21:26.559
time in my life that I felt safe. Now, I

1496
02:21:26.639 --> 02:21:28.840
might have felt safe for the foster parents, but in

1497
02:21:29.040 --> 02:21:32.000
my kind of conscious you know, because I was a

1498
02:21:32.079 --> 02:21:35.520
baby then, so I don't remember, but it was the

1499
02:21:35.600 --> 02:21:40.200
first time that I actually felt to me he was

1500
02:21:41.280 --> 02:21:44.959
as strong as the Hulk. You know, he is no

1501
02:21:45.079 --> 02:21:47.360
way in the world, no one could do anything to me.

1502
02:21:47.959 --> 02:21:51.680
He would protect me and he was like Superman. And

1503
02:21:51.760 --> 02:21:53.360
I think that's probably a lot. A lot of kids

1504
02:21:53.360 --> 02:21:56.440
feel that way about their parents. And my mum was

1505
02:21:56.479 --> 02:22:01.520
wonder woman and she was the first female that I

1506
02:22:01.600 --> 02:22:07.280
bonded with. So I was seven before I bonded with

1507
02:22:07.360 --> 02:22:14.280
a female like mother figure in like a proper way.

1508
02:22:15.000 --> 02:22:17.920
And although again, do you know, when I was a baby,

1509
02:22:18.120 --> 02:22:21.559
I think I probably had a very very close bond

1510
02:22:21.639 --> 02:22:25.920
to my foster my foster father, but those who are don't.

1511
02:22:25.959 --> 02:22:29.879
For about a year and a half so I might

1512
02:22:29.920 --> 02:22:32.319
have had some amazing times, but I just don't remember

1513
02:22:32.399 --> 02:22:37.200
them because they wanted to adopt me and my other brother.

1514
02:22:38.319 --> 02:22:43.639
The oldest brother was still living with my grandparents, but

1515
02:22:43.760 --> 02:22:46.959
the foster parents wanted to adopt me and my other brother.

1516
02:22:47.760 --> 02:22:49.680
So they must have loved this, mustn't they. I must

1517
02:22:49.719 --> 02:22:55.319
have really adored us, so I probably had lots of

1518
02:22:55.479 --> 02:22:59.559
you know, I'm sure I had birthday, Birthday, Christmas with them,

1519
02:23:00.559 --> 02:23:06.760
but just don't remember it. But I've never had that

1520
02:23:06.959 --> 02:23:10.520
feeling of safety before. I had the feeling of physical

1521
02:23:10.639 --> 02:23:15.479
safety with my dad and the feeling of emotional safety

1522
02:23:15.920 --> 02:23:19.639
with my new mum, and I've never had either of

1523
02:23:19.680 --> 02:23:25.360
those before as in my memory. That is so from

1524
02:23:25.399 --> 02:23:29.479
the age of life, maybe four. I don't know how

1525
02:23:29.559 --> 02:23:34.000
many years it was, I don't know how whatever. I

1526
02:23:34.040 --> 02:23:36.200
don't know how far back you can remember when you're

1527
02:23:36.239 --> 02:23:40.799
six or seven, because you you can remember further back,

1528
02:23:40.920 --> 02:23:44.879
an't you than you can when you're fifty seven. As

1529
02:23:44.920 --> 02:23:49.200
far as like, how far back the memory goes, I'm guessing.

1530
02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:58.520
And I had another nice memory I've got again, like this,

1531
02:23:59.239 --> 02:24:02.120
you know, sitting on Dad's neck, not his neck, well,

1532
02:24:02.239 --> 02:24:04.760
it was on his neck on his shoulders while he

1533
02:24:04.840 --> 02:24:07.879
was sitting on his neck, but I was on his shoulders,

1534
02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:14.760
and I used to on the way back from South End,

1535
02:24:15.879 --> 02:24:18.559
So it was a Friday night they picked us up,

1536
02:24:18.639 --> 02:24:20.719
and I think they did this for about six months.

1537
02:24:21.600 --> 02:24:24.079
Maybe it might have been three months, but it seemed

1538
02:24:24.159 --> 02:24:27.040
like quite a while, but I don't know how long

1539
02:24:27.120 --> 02:24:31.120
for but every weekend, for a period of time, my

1540
02:24:31.280 --> 02:24:36.159
dad and his new wife would pick I keep saying

1541
02:24:36.239 --> 02:24:40.040
new wife because it literally just got married about less

1542
02:24:40.159 --> 02:24:44.760
than a year. So they came, they'd pick us up

1543
02:24:44.799 --> 02:24:50.399
from the South End kids home, and we'd drive back,

1544
02:24:50.600 --> 02:24:53.159
and it was often dark, so it wasn't I think.

1545
02:24:53.239 --> 02:24:56.680
I imagine they were both working, so it was They

1546
02:24:56.680 --> 02:25:00.079
probably couldn't leave till maybe six, so they get to

1547
02:25:00.200 --> 02:25:03.520
us about seven. We'd get home probably about eight, half

1548
02:25:03.639 --> 02:25:13.159
eight or nine, depending on traffic, I suppose. So I

1549
02:25:13.239 --> 02:25:15.079
don't remember it ever being in a light when we

1550
02:25:15.159 --> 02:25:18.200
did it. But when we moved there, it was the summer,

1551
02:25:20.120 --> 02:25:23.399
so it's probably the beginning of the year, and then

1552
02:25:23.440 --> 02:25:28.639
we moved in the summer permanently. So what I used

1553
02:25:28.639 --> 02:25:31.959
to do, I used I used to sit on my

1554
02:25:33.360 --> 02:25:39.479
new mum's lap, And this is before seat belts were

1555
02:25:39.520 --> 02:25:43.360
a thing, really, you know it was. I don't think

1556
02:25:43.399 --> 02:25:47.440
they were, like, it wasn't law that you had to

1557
02:25:47.479 --> 02:25:50.360
wear a seat belt and you can't have a little

1558
02:25:50.440 --> 02:25:53.280
kid on your lap in the front anymore. But back then,

1559
02:25:58.719 --> 02:26:01.440
I remember, yeah, I remember my dad's saying, well, I'm

1560
02:26:01.479 --> 02:26:06.479
a bit worried because you know what happens to him

1561
02:26:06.520 --> 02:26:10.159
if we have to stop and he and so it

1562
02:26:10.280 --> 02:26:12.719
happens to him. And my stepmom said, well, we've got

1563
02:26:12.719 --> 02:26:14.719
two two more, two more in the back and we

1564
02:26:15.639 --> 02:26:19.600
so she didn't say that. So I I used to

1565
02:26:19.719 --> 02:26:25.879
go sleep, and I basically I turned into a little baby.

1566
02:26:26.600 --> 02:26:28.200
I didn't know. I didn't turn to a baby, but

1567
02:26:28.239 --> 02:26:36.079
I turned into I suppose I became a kid because

1568
02:26:36.159 --> 02:26:38.920
if you live in a place where if you see,

1569
02:26:38.920 --> 02:26:41.239
I haven't got parents living with you, and you're living

1570
02:26:41.280 --> 02:26:47.000
in a some kind of different place, there's a degree

1571
02:26:47.040 --> 02:26:53.200
of childishness that has to be suspended a little bit.

1572
02:26:57.399 --> 02:27:02.120
And on those journeys, I regressed back to maybe maybe

1573
02:27:02.159 --> 02:27:06.559
a younger version that needed that, and I'd cuddle up

1574
02:27:06.639 --> 02:27:10.280
and I'd just be Sometimes I'd look I'd look at

1575
02:27:10.360 --> 02:27:12.879
my brothers through the because you know, you've got the

1576
02:27:12.959 --> 02:27:15.000
two front seats and there's the gap and then there's

1577
02:27:15.079 --> 02:27:17.959
back seats. I'd look through and just smile at them.

1578
02:27:19.200 --> 02:27:21.520
It's like a look at look at me. I'm I'm

1579
02:27:21.559 --> 02:27:25.479
having a cud of you're not. But because I was

1580
02:27:25.600 --> 02:27:33.360
very childish, yeah, I remember that that was so cool.

1581
02:27:34.440 --> 02:27:40.079
And it was even a time which is weird because

1582
02:27:40.079 --> 02:27:42.239
when I was literally I was a baby of the

1583
02:27:42.319 --> 02:27:47.879
family for a year, just a year. I got to

1584
02:27:47.920 --> 02:27:51.680
be a baby free year. It was like wow. And

1585
02:27:51.799 --> 02:27:53.559
it ended as soon as my little brother was born

1586
02:27:54.200 --> 02:27:59.440
when I was eight. But I took full advantage of

1587
02:27:59.520 --> 02:28:05.319
that and I'd be going and I'd like going into

1588
02:28:05.520 --> 02:28:08.760
my parents' room. I was able to sleep, so I'd

1589
02:28:08.799 --> 02:28:12.760
end up sleeping in the bed with them, and as

1590
02:28:12.799 --> 02:28:15.120
an adult, I realized that they probably didn't want me there,

1591
02:28:15.239 --> 02:28:18.840
to be fair, but I was. I really took to them,

1592
02:28:18.920 --> 02:28:24.719
both of them really quickly, really quickly. There was I

1593
02:28:24.959 --> 02:28:28.559
just maybe the fact that my dad was my dad,

1594
02:28:28.639 --> 02:28:33.600
and maybe there was that unconscious connection because he was

1595
02:28:33.639 --> 02:28:37.399
my father and I had met him before. But you know,

1596
02:28:37.440 --> 02:28:39.600
I knew for six months of my life, for first

1597
02:28:39.680 --> 02:28:46.120
three three to six months, but I really put all

1598
02:28:46.200 --> 02:28:52.120
my trust in both of them almost instantly. Not instantly,

1599
02:28:52.200 --> 02:28:54.680
but it took a few weeks probably, but you know,

1600
02:28:54.959 --> 02:28:58.399
eventually I just gave myself in to the whole experience

1601
02:28:58.479 --> 02:29:02.239
and was a baby for a year or I was

1602
02:29:02.319 --> 02:29:09.440
the baby of the family, and yeah, they were just

1603
02:29:09.600 --> 02:29:14.639
amazing that whole year. Probably would I would put that

1604
02:29:14.840 --> 02:29:20.440
down as being the happiest time of my life. With

1605
02:29:20.600 --> 02:29:24.719
that year between seven and eight would be the happiest

1606
02:29:24.840 --> 02:29:31.280
time of my life because for the first time I

1607
02:29:31.399 --> 02:29:38.200
had stability. I wasn't I know, it's only a year,

1608
02:29:38.239 --> 02:29:40.120
but I wasn't moving around all the time, because it

1609
02:29:40.239 --> 02:29:42.280
was times when I was just constantly on the move

1610
02:29:42.840 --> 02:29:50.399
when I was little, really little, and I was making

1611
02:29:50.479 --> 02:29:53.959
friends at school for the first time because I was

1612
02:29:54.000 --> 02:29:57.159
at school for long enough and I was just one

1613
02:29:57.200 --> 02:30:00.799
of the other kids. There was no I wasn't a

1614
02:30:00.879 --> 02:30:05.360
weird kid from the orphanage, you know, I was just.

1615
02:30:06.840 --> 02:30:08.399
So that was nice.

1616
02:30:08.479 --> 02:30:13.120
I had a little girlfriend was just before I turned eight,

1617
02:30:17.639 --> 02:30:24.319
and pretty much me and my two brothers gotten quite

1618
02:30:24.360 --> 02:30:29.520
well as well. That changed, but especially when we moved

1619
02:30:29.559 --> 02:30:33.040
into the bigger house. But for that year I would

1620
02:30:33.079 --> 02:30:36.799
say we are gone quite well. There was arguments, but

1621
02:30:36.920 --> 02:30:37.760
it just standard.

1622
02:30:39.639 --> 02:30:40.319
The thing is.

1623
02:30:43.559 --> 02:30:47.399
Up to the age of seven. My oldest brother was

1624
02:30:47.600 --> 02:30:51.760
like a father to me. Ridiculous when you think that

1625
02:30:51.879 --> 02:30:56.719
he was eleven years old at that point.

1626
02:30:58.719 --> 02:30:59.920
So for years.

1627
02:31:01.440 --> 02:31:08.280
Yeah, when I was five, so he'd be nine. So

1628
02:31:08.360 --> 02:31:10.920
when I was about five, let's say five. I'm just thinking.

1629
02:31:10.959 --> 02:31:15.639
As far as remembering, I don't have specific dates for

1630
02:31:15.760 --> 02:31:20.239
these periods. So we were left in the flat. My

1631
02:31:20.559 --> 02:31:24.040
biological mother would leave us at home and this would

1632
02:31:24.040 --> 02:31:28.639
be in the tower block, I suppose, and she'd go

1633
02:31:28.840 --> 02:31:35.959
out for I don't know how long long periods of time,

1634
02:31:36.920 --> 02:31:38.920
and she would leave my little brother in charge of

1635
02:31:39.040 --> 02:31:42.079
both me and my other brother. So he was my

1636
02:31:42.200 --> 02:31:46.280
oldest brother was nine years old, and then there was

1637
02:31:46.360 --> 02:31:49.319
a seven year old and a five year old. To

1638
02:31:49.440 --> 02:31:52.120
leave a nine year old in charge of two little

1639
02:31:52.200 --> 02:31:56.840
kids when the nine year old is also a little kid. Honestly,

1640
02:31:56.920 --> 02:32:01.159
I've got my friend's daughter to my neighbor's daughter, a

1641
02:32:01.200 --> 02:32:05.239
Rena Carner. She's nine and she looks about five to me.

1642
02:32:06.879 --> 02:32:10.840
And the thing that she someone of her age would

1643
02:32:10.959 --> 02:32:16.600
be in charge looking after two other kids, in charge

1644
02:32:16.639 --> 02:32:19.920
of them being fed, in charge of making sure they're safe.

1645
02:32:21.120 --> 02:32:27.399
It's like ish, absolutely ridiculous, but that's that's how it was.

1646
02:32:28.319 --> 02:32:33.760
So he looked after us. So he was a lot

1647
02:32:33.840 --> 02:32:40.639
older in his head than a nine year old he was, Yeah,

1648
02:32:40.680 --> 02:32:47.319
he was just more mature. So when I got to seven,

1649
02:32:50.719 --> 02:32:56.959
suddenly he wasn't the boss anymore. We didn't have to

1650
02:32:57.000 --> 02:32:59.760
do what he said, because for years we were doing

1651
02:32:59.799 --> 02:33:04.879
more told us he was he was the king, and

1652
02:33:05.159 --> 02:33:07.319
not that he was. It wasn't horrible, but you know,

1653
02:33:07.399 --> 02:33:10.000
if he told us to do something, especially me, I'd

1654
02:33:10.079 --> 02:33:15.200
just do it. And I looked up to him as

1655
02:33:15.319 --> 02:33:20.520
a I suppose in a way, he was kind of

1656
02:33:20.600 --> 02:33:23.079
like a hero to me. I wanted to be like him.

1657
02:33:25.719 --> 02:33:29.440
I was very different from my other brother, my second brother,

1658
02:33:30.360 --> 02:33:32.479
well you know, the one just above me two years.

1659
02:33:32.959 --> 02:33:35.719
We were such different people, but I kind of felt

1660
02:33:35.719 --> 02:33:39.440
I was similar to my oldest brother a little bit.

1661
02:33:42.440 --> 02:33:43.879
I'm not sure if I am.

1662
02:33:43.840 --> 02:33:43.920
But.

1663
02:33:46.479 --> 02:33:49.680
I think that that changed because he went from being

1664
02:33:51.360 --> 02:33:56.600
our I guess our father in a sense to being

1665
02:33:57.399 --> 02:34:00.360
a little kid, which is what he was. He was

1666
02:34:00.399 --> 02:34:03.399
eleven years old at this point. He was just a kid,

1667
02:34:04.959 --> 02:34:07.000
and he hadn't had a chance to be a kid,

1668
02:34:08.040 --> 02:34:10.399
and none of us had really, none of us had

1669
02:34:10.440 --> 02:34:16.360
had a childhood not written or proper childhood, so up

1670
02:34:16.399 --> 02:34:20.000
to that point, I mean, so it's a very strange thing.

1671
02:34:20.319 --> 02:34:21.840
I don't think any of us really knew how to

1672
02:34:21.920 --> 02:34:28.319
deal with it. I just I think I just I

1673
02:34:28.399 --> 02:34:33.559
went in. I just chucked myself into it head first.

1674
02:34:35.280 --> 02:34:37.200
You know. I saw an opportunity to have a mum,

1675
02:34:38.840 --> 02:34:43.000
and to have it was for me just the idea

1676
02:34:43.000 --> 02:34:45.719
of having a d This has got nothing to do

1677
02:34:45.760 --> 02:34:47.879
with a question. And what am I talking about? Blind me?

1678
02:34:51.040 --> 02:34:55.319
I don't know to go on, don't I So to me,

1679
02:34:55.479 --> 02:35:03.719
this was an opportunity to really to feel safe with

1680
02:35:03.879 --> 02:35:07.680
my dad because it was amazing at that point. Is

1681
02:35:08.440 --> 02:35:17.040
it was like a little not romantic, because that's not

1682
02:35:17.120 --> 02:35:22.760
the right word. Fairy tale, maybe like a perfect scenario.

1683
02:35:23.559 --> 02:35:26.760
There was a few issues because we was all rough

1684
02:35:27.440 --> 02:35:32.840
like we were rough. We come from rough stock, as

1685
02:35:32.920 --> 02:35:35.600
it were, so we had to be tamed a little bit.

1686
02:35:36.680 --> 02:35:43.879
But other than that, it was it's kind of really

1687
02:35:44.000 --> 02:35:49.360
nice year. And at the age of seven, a year

1688
02:35:49.479 --> 02:35:53.000
is a long time, a heck of a long time.

1689
02:35:54.360 --> 02:36:00.079
Now at ninety three years old, a year is I

1690
02:36:00.159 --> 02:36:02.360
mean that that's a poo. Now, that's just a pooh,

1691
02:36:02.920 --> 02:36:09.920
that's a toilet break A yeah, wow was nothing so

1692
02:36:12.319 --> 02:36:14.200
so that was a nice I mean, that was the

1693
02:36:14.319 --> 02:36:18.239
happiest moment. That was a year and it wasn't all happy,

1694
02:36:18.360 --> 02:36:21.200
but you know, that was kind of a hello dog,

1695
02:36:21.360 --> 02:36:23.079
he keeps looking up at me when you were in

1696
02:36:23.239 --> 02:36:29.159
Vinn vn. That was a nice elongated period of time

1697
02:36:30.399 --> 02:36:35.239
where and she remembers and things. So, yeah, it wasn't all.

1698
02:36:35.360 --> 02:36:39.719
It wasn't perfect, but it was a heck of a

1699
02:36:39.719 --> 02:36:44.280
lot better than what we'd had before. However, I had

1700
02:36:44.879 --> 02:36:49.920
I had the tendency of saying the wrong thing apparently

1701
02:36:50.360 --> 02:36:54.040
still do. And there was one moment and I don't know,

1702
02:36:54.239 --> 02:36:56.639
I really even today, I kind of struggle a little

1703
02:36:56.639 --> 02:37:03.280
bit with why upset? But I think my step mom

1704
02:37:03.440 --> 02:37:05.200
she had a tendency of being a little bit too

1705
02:37:05.280 --> 02:37:11.399
honest with reasons for stuff, Like I asked for something

1706
02:37:12.159 --> 02:37:19.639
and she said, oh, we can't afford it. And the

1707
02:37:19.760 --> 02:37:22.799
thing is, I didn't know I never had anything before,

1708
02:37:24.840 --> 02:37:28.159
and because they were given us things, it is like

1709
02:37:28.319 --> 02:37:31.120
I suppose I got into that mode of like, oh,

1710
02:37:31.159 --> 02:37:37.719
perhaps what else can I have? Because I mean, the

1711
02:37:37.799 --> 02:37:40.760
only present I ever got from my actual biological mom

1712
02:37:40.879 --> 02:37:45.120
that I remember was when I was in Newcastle Children's Home.

1713
02:37:45.520 --> 02:37:51.719
It was my birthday and I woke up and my

1714
02:37:51.920 --> 02:37:54.440
mom had been I didn't see her, but she popped

1715
02:37:54.479 --> 02:37:57.120
in and she left me a birthday president, which was

1716
02:37:57.200 --> 02:38:04.520
a box of more teasers like more tesus. There's a

1717
02:38:04.559 --> 02:38:07.239
bit of a crap present. Sorry, there's a bit of

1718
02:38:07.280 --> 02:38:11.639
a crap birthday present. It really is. And that's the

1719
02:38:11.719 --> 02:38:15.280
only birthday present I ever remember getting from a or

1720
02:38:15.399 --> 02:38:22.879
Christmas present. So really, my first proper Christmas in my

1721
02:38:23.079 --> 02:38:30.520
memory would be nineteen seventy seven, so I was seven

1722
02:38:30.600 --> 02:38:35.399
before I had an actual Christmas celebration, like a proper one.

1723
02:38:36.360 --> 02:38:38.920
I mean, they did have Christmases at the Children's home,

1724
02:38:38.959 --> 02:38:45.680
but wouldn't recommend it. If you get invited to one,

1725
02:38:45.840 --> 02:38:51.280
probably say no, ah, wow no. And I'm sure I

1726
02:38:51.360 --> 02:38:53.440
had a Christmas when I was fostered, but I don't

1727
02:38:53.440 --> 02:38:57.280
remember that I was a baby, and I have no

1728
02:38:57.479 --> 02:39:01.799
recollection of Christmases or birthdays when I was in like

1729
02:39:02.600 --> 02:39:13.319
living with the first mother and her husband. So yeah,

1730
02:39:13.399 --> 02:39:16.280
that was I'm trying to think of some other nice memories.

1731
02:39:23.000 --> 02:39:27.600
When I got my TV, when I got my first television,

1732
02:39:28.360 --> 02:39:36.760
black and white television, I was fourteen. I think, oh,

1733
02:39:37.239 --> 02:39:40.360
my goodness, I must have been fourteen, because I was

1734
02:39:40.440 --> 02:39:44.520
fifteen when we left, when I moved out of there,

1735
02:39:44.639 --> 02:39:47.440
so I must have been couldn't have been more than

1736
02:39:47.520 --> 02:39:51.959
a year. So I was fourteen, and I had this

1737
02:39:52.079 --> 02:39:55.399
black and white TV and I was watching Cheers for

1738
02:39:55.440 --> 02:39:59.239
the first time. I was watching Mash for the first time.

1739
02:40:00.159 --> 02:40:02.239
TV programs that I wasn't on allowed to stay up

1740
02:40:02.280 --> 02:40:05.000
to watch I was now watching so I could watch

1741
02:40:05.079 --> 02:40:10.959
TV two in the morning if I wanted to. It

1742
02:40:11.280 --> 02:40:17.440
was bliss, absolutely phenomenal.

1743
02:40:17.559 --> 02:40:17.799
I was.

1744
02:40:18.639 --> 02:40:21.280
I used to look forward to getting home just so

1745
02:40:21.360 --> 02:40:24.360
I could watch TV. I didn't want to go downstairs anymore,

1746
02:40:25.319 --> 02:40:28.120
you know, I could watch TV and be on my own.

1747
02:40:29.760 --> 02:40:34.280
Two of my favorite things that was being on my

1748
02:40:34.399 --> 02:40:38.399
own and watching TV. It kind of still is, to

1749
02:40:38.479 --> 02:40:41.079
be honest, although I don't watch TV anymore. I do

1750
02:40:41.200 --> 02:40:44.600
watch a TV, but you know, I stream stuff now.

1751
02:40:44.639 --> 02:40:48.120
I don't really watch what's on the actual television itself

1752
02:40:49.319 --> 02:40:59.600
hardly ever. Yes, So that that was an amazing, yeah period,

1753
02:41:00.079 --> 02:41:07.239
that was so good. So that that was a happy moment.

1754
02:41:10.200 --> 02:41:18.319
I'm trying to think little happy moments. I'm trying to

1755
02:41:18.319 --> 02:41:22.479
think of good news when I've had good news. Think

1756
02:41:22.479 --> 02:41:27.000
he's being very You're looking in my hand. You want

1757
02:41:27.040 --> 02:41:29.639
a bit of attention, You're a bit of deadly attention.

1758
02:41:29.959 --> 02:41:37.639
Then huh yeah, okay, yeah, I'm trying to think something.

1759
02:41:41.440 --> 02:41:43.680
When did I ever get any good news and another kid?

1760
02:41:49.879 --> 02:41:52.280
I think it was exciting when my little brother come

1761
02:41:52.360 --> 02:41:56.440
home when he was born. That was probably exciting because

1762
02:41:56.440 --> 02:42:02.879
I've never seen a baby before happy. I'm not sure

1763
02:42:02.920 --> 02:42:07.040
if I would say I was happy, because I suppose

1764
02:42:07.159 --> 02:42:10.600
I probably didn't even like him because he baby too.

1765
02:42:10.719 --> 02:42:13.559
He ended by childhood in a sense. That's how I felt.

1766
02:42:13.600 --> 02:42:17.719
I think I was no longer the baby, so and

1767
02:42:17.799 --> 02:42:19.879
I only had a year of it. I wouldn't if

1768
02:42:19.920 --> 02:42:22.280
I had seven years of it. I probably would have thought, well,

1769
02:42:22.719 --> 02:42:25.520
it's kind of time to retire anyway. Now, give someone

1770
02:42:25.559 --> 02:42:28.360
else an opportunity to be the baby of the family.

1771
02:42:28.520 --> 02:42:33.120
But no one year. One year to be a baby.

1772
02:42:36.639 --> 02:42:38.600
But I did. I always got on with him, so

1773
02:42:38.879 --> 02:42:43.559
I did care about him. Some of the funniest moments

1774
02:42:43.760 --> 02:42:46.840
of my childhood probably was my little brother. Some of

1775
02:42:46.920 --> 02:42:48.479
the things that he did, some of the things he

1776
02:42:48.600 --> 02:42:51.399
said very funny when he was growing up, you know,

1777
02:42:51.520 --> 02:42:54.760
for the first few years of his life. It was hilarious.

1778
02:42:56.079 --> 02:43:05.200
So that was funny, just trying to move forward. When

1779
02:43:05.239 --> 02:43:08.879
I did my gradings at Karate, so I got a

1780
02:43:08.959 --> 02:43:12.360
first class pass in all my gradings. So they were

1781
02:43:12.399 --> 02:43:14.719
always nice moments, happy moments.

1782
02:43:16.719 --> 02:43:22.719
And mm hmm.

1783
02:43:26.520 --> 02:43:30.120
I thing he's made some weird noises. He's just staring

1784
02:43:30.200 --> 02:43:32.360
at me, but he's basically the other way. But he's

1785
02:43:32.479 --> 02:43:34.879
staring at me. I think he wants me to tickle

1786
02:43:34.920 --> 02:43:36.360
his tummy. Is that what you want?

1787
02:43:36.440 --> 02:43:38.159
Do I want to tickle your tummy?

1788
02:43:38.920 --> 02:43:40.079
You want to with your tummy?

1789
02:43:40.879 --> 02:43:42.799
You want to tell me to cold? Can you tell

1790
02:43:42.879 --> 02:43:43.399
me to cold?

1791
02:43:45.280 --> 02:43:53.760
H He wants to play. That's why he wants to do.

1792
02:43:54.000 --> 02:43:56.360
Don't you You want a big pay play? You a

1793
02:43:56.399 --> 02:44:07.319
big play play? Going forward? What leaving school? Anything nice

1794
02:44:07.399 --> 02:44:08.239
happened at school?

1795
02:44:11.079 --> 02:44:11.559
Mm hmmm.

1796
02:44:14.079 --> 02:44:25.920
The happiest thing that happened at school. No, probably those

1797
02:44:26.079 --> 02:44:30.040
moments where I fell in love with someone so I'd

1798
02:44:30.079 --> 02:44:32.680
be looking forward to seeing them. That was you know,

1799
02:44:32.840 --> 02:44:38.760
those moments were quite happy, but it was never fulfilled

1800
02:44:39.079 --> 02:44:43.559
as in it was but always one way traffic, generally

1801
02:44:44.520 --> 02:44:48.920
always generally, Yeah, it was me falling in love with them.

1802
02:44:50.120 --> 02:44:53.920
And then telling me to go away. As often how

1803
02:44:53.959 --> 02:45:03.280
it worked. There was one one pit we was quite happy,

1804
02:45:03.319 --> 02:45:04.360
a quite a happy moment.

1805
02:45:05.159 --> 02:45:06.520
There was this girl that was.

1806
02:45:09.399 --> 02:45:12.399
She didn't like well, she was basically for some reason,

1807
02:45:13.239 --> 02:45:16.959
she was outside the school that I went to to

1808
02:45:17.399 --> 02:45:20.719
do karate, which was a different school, and she just

1809
02:45:21.040 --> 02:45:26.479
followed me in and started kicking my stuff around, my

1810
02:45:26.600 --> 02:45:30.600
karate stuff like the pads and stuff around the floor

1811
02:45:31.319 --> 02:45:34.479
outside the school because it was locked at the time.

1812
02:45:35.719 --> 02:45:37.920
So I used to like to get there early and

1813
02:45:40.600 --> 02:45:42.239
I couldn't do anything to it because she was a

1814
02:45:42.319 --> 02:45:48.719
girl and she just took advantage of that situation. But

1815
02:45:48.799 --> 02:45:52.840
I didn't understand why she was being so horrible. Well,

1816
02:45:52.879 --> 02:45:58.239
she followed me in and she watched the karate and

1817
02:45:58.399 --> 02:46:02.000
she was nice to me ever since. So when she

1818
02:46:02.079 --> 02:46:05.360
saw me in action, I'm not saying I was good,

1819
02:46:05.399 --> 02:46:09.520
but she saw that I kind of was real. You know,

1820
02:46:09.559 --> 02:46:12.440
I was really doing it. I wasn't just pretending to

1821
02:46:12.520 --> 02:46:17.840
do it. And she became a friend. She became like

1822
02:46:18.000 --> 02:46:22.680
really really nice to me, which is weird, and I

1823
02:46:22.760 --> 02:46:25.959
think I might fall in love with her, And she

1824
02:46:26.079 --> 02:46:31.239
said go away. I'm trying to think what other nice

1825
02:46:31.879 --> 02:46:37.680
other situations. Yeah, I did ask someone out. This might

1826
02:46:37.760 --> 02:46:41.239
be the same person, but I asked her out. We

1827
02:46:41.360 --> 02:46:43.840
were in drama together and we were running around and

1828
02:46:43.920 --> 02:46:47.079
playing and stuff. So I would have been about fourteen

1829
02:46:47.200 --> 02:46:49.559
at the time, and I asked her out.

1830
02:46:50.040 --> 02:46:52.319
And she said, I'll tell you. I'll tell you next week.

1831
02:46:54.440 --> 02:46:56.719
She said, I this is a Friday night or Friday

1832
02:46:56.760 --> 02:47:03.239
afternoon double drama. She said, I'll tell you Monday, and

1833
02:47:03.319 --> 02:47:06.360
then someone said, but it's bank holiday. Monday is a

1834
02:47:06.600 --> 02:47:13.920
bank Yes, half term next week, and she said, I'll

1835
02:47:13.959 --> 02:47:19.360
tell you when we get back from half term. So

1836
02:47:19.520 --> 02:47:23.159
that week was an exciting week because all I could

1837
02:47:23.200 --> 02:47:25.799
think about was her and how we were going to

1838
02:47:25.879 --> 02:47:29.399
fall in love and get married and she might let

1839
02:47:29.440 --> 02:47:39.319
me hold hands with her, that's it. And during that

1840
02:47:39.559 --> 02:47:43.520
half week that half term, I'm walking along the prom

1841
02:47:43.600 --> 02:47:49.719
with my friend and she walks up and she's holding

1842
02:47:49.840 --> 02:47:54.360
hands with some bloke or some lad and she says,

1843
02:47:54.360 --> 02:47:58.360
he loo to me, and the blokes saying we are

1844
02:47:58.399 --> 02:48:00.879
you looking at who you're talking to, like trying to

1845
02:48:00.920 --> 02:48:06.959
act tough, and I just like, I don't know if

1846
02:48:07.000 --> 02:48:12.319
I laughed at him, but it's like okay. And the

1847
02:48:12.479 --> 02:48:16.719
next Monday, first of all was when I saw her.

1848
02:48:16.840 --> 02:48:19.559
She said, well, I aldadly knew she had a boyfriend,

1849
02:48:19.639 --> 02:48:21.479
so there was an obviously there was a no, wasn't it,

1850
02:48:22.280 --> 02:48:27.120
because she was holding hand with his boy He came

1851
02:48:27.239 --> 02:48:30.920
up to me because he was new. He's just been

1852
02:48:31.040 --> 02:48:35.360
expelled from his last school for fighting. He came up

1853
02:48:35.440 --> 02:48:37.840
to me and he said, that's good. I tell you,

1854
02:48:37.879 --> 02:48:42.040
I'm sorry for how I acted with you the other day.

1855
02:48:43.680 --> 02:48:46.920
I didn't. I was like wow, and we ended up

1856
02:48:46.959 --> 02:48:52.680
being friends. So that was strange. So I think she

1857
02:48:52.799 --> 02:48:58.360
must have told him off. So that was But that

1858
02:48:58.719 --> 02:49:00.520
was a period when I was really looking looking forward

1859
02:49:00.600 --> 02:49:05.040
to going back to school, and that's an an unnatural

1860
02:49:05.159 --> 02:49:14.280
act view for me. That was mind you. Sometimes I

1861
02:49:14.479 --> 02:49:18.479
would on the first day of school, I would get

1862
02:49:18.559 --> 02:49:23.680
excited because I would decide that I was going to

1863
02:49:23.799 --> 02:49:27.040
really put some effort in. You know, I'd have a

1864
02:49:27.159 --> 02:49:34.479
new new pencil sharp now and pens and pads, and

1865
02:49:35.760 --> 02:49:41.399
I'd really be positive about school and I was going

1866
02:49:41.479 --> 02:49:43.399
to put some effort in and I was going to

1867
02:49:43.520 --> 02:49:46.600
do well, and my parents would be proud of me.

1868
02:49:46.799 --> 02:49:54.159
And and then I'd go to school and aff by lunchtime,

1869
02:49:54.959 --> 02:50:00.520
I'm pretty much quit because I just didn't like it.

1870
02:50:00.600 --> 02:50:05.840
There nothing. It was just I wasn't interested in anything

1871
02:50:05.879 --> 02:50:11.840
that they were saying to me. It's just boring that

1872
02:50:12.120 --> 02:50:19.399
the environment was boring the in most of the classes.

1873
02:50:20.479 --> 02:50:24.959
I mean, history is not boring, is it. Geography is

1874
02:50:25.000 --> 02:50:30.159
not really boring either, but the way it was presented

1875
02:50:30.799 --> 02:50:36.479
just it was just just send me to sleep. I'd

1876
02:50:36.520 --> 02:50:40.920
always be at the back of the class if I

1877
02:50:41.000 --> 02:50:45.840
could be, so that I could just zone out, and

1878
02:50:46.000 --> 02:50:50.520
then I would if there was a clock, i'ld stare

1879
02:50:50.520 --> 02:50:54.399
at the clock or stair out of the window. As

1880
02:50:54.399 --> 02:50:58.639
I got older and as I realized I didn't care,

1881
02:50:59.079 --> 02:51:01.200
and as teachers were liers, I didn't care and I

1882
02:51:01.280 --> 02:51:06.440
was uncontrollable. They left me alone and I just take magazines.

1883
02:51:06.639 --> 02:51:11.799
I'd be looking at kung through magazine, bodybuilding magazines, or

1884
02:51:11.879 --> 02:51:15.680
reading a book, and they just lead me to get

1885
02:51:15.719 --> 02:51:18.159
on with it. Because when I was doing that, I

1886
02:51:18.280 --> 02:51:25.040
wasn't disturbing the class. I wasn't being disruptive, So that

1887
02:51:25.239 --> 02:51:29.159
was Sometimes I'd make an effort and say, we need

1888
02:51:29.200 --> 02:51:31.799
to do your homework. Where's your homework. I'll bring it

1889
02:51:31.840 --> 02:51:36.280
in tomorrow. I think, okay, and then they forget about

1890
02:51:36.319 --> 02:51:38.200
it because they knew that I wasn't going to bring

1891
02:51:38.239 --> 02:51:41.520
it in and if occasionally they had to get a

1892
02:51:41.559 --> 02:51:43.920
bit tough with me and so, or we need your homework,

1893
02:51:43.959 --> 02:51:47.479
you can't just not do it. I'd just write down

1894
02:51:47.559 --> 02:51:50.319
some kind of rubbish on a piece of paper and

1895
02:51:50.479 --> 02:51:55.959
hand that in. So I never I think the only

1896
02:51:56.040 --> 02:52:00.239
time I put effort into school was once, and it

1897
02:52:00.360 --> 02:52:03.799
was the class, the English class, in the very first year,

1898
02:52:04.319 --> 02:52:07.360
because I went in with a very good attitude the

1899
02:52:07.520 --> 02:52:12.760
very first year, and I was my form tutor, was

1900
02:52:12.840 --> 02:52:18.959
the English the English teacher, the main English teacher, and

1901
02:52:20.959 --> 02:52:23.000
that was where I stayed when I went in the

1902
02:52:23.079 --> 02:52:25.479
first thing in the morning, and then went in last

1903
02:52:25.520 --> 02:52:28.280
thing during the days, you know, to be registered in

1904
02:52:28.399 --> 02:52:33.120
and out. And he was my English teacher as well.

1905
02:52:36.799 --> 02:52:41.079
I've told this story before, but I don't know if

1906
02:52:41.079 --> 02:52:43.399
it's the very first day or second day. But he

1907
02:52:43.479 --> 02:52:47.200
gave us homework. We were reading this Grendel was at

1908
02:52:47.239 --> 02:52:53.600
Grendel some kind of a book. It's a very old

1909
02:52:54.120 --> 02:52:57.319
I think it's a poem. It was a very old book.

1910
02:53:01.079 --> 02:53:03.840
I think we read the first chapter and we took

1911
02:53:03.920 --> 02:53:07.280
turns of reading it, and then he said.

1912
02:53:10.120 --> 02:53:10.639
Go home.

1913
02:53:13.000 --> 02:53:15.239
And then he shouted, not yet, Jason, come back, I'm

1914
02:53:15.319 --> 02:53:20.559
not finished a sentence, and he said, when the bell goes,

1915
02:53:22.600 --> 02:53:28.399
here's the homework for tomorrow. Just write what you think

1916
02:53:28.520 --> 02:53:31.600
is going to happen next. We've read up to chapter

1917
02:53:31.680 --> 02:53:35.719
one or chapter two, whatever. Just just write a story

1918
02:53:36.200 --> 02:53:39.639
where you think is going to happen next. So I

1919
02:53:39.760 --> 02:53:42.959
came home. I spent probably two three hours doing that.

1920
02:53:44.200 --> 02:53:50.000
I really really believed that it was good work. So

1921
02:53:50.120 --> 02:53:52.639
I handed it in the next day when he was

1922
02:53:52.719 --> 02:53:55.639
looking forward to going into school that day, handed it

1923
02:53:55.719 --> 02:54:02.920
in and they were handing. He handed them back with grades,

1924
02:54:05.680 --> 02:54:10.479
and he called me out to the table. I'm not

1925
02:54:10.520 --> 02:54:12.239
sure if he said it in front of everyone else,

1926
02:54:12.319 --> 02:54:14.040
but he said, what was that?

1927
02:54:15.040 --> 02:54:15.520
What do you mean?

1928
02:54:17.000 --> 02:54:20.879
He said, what was that nonsense? You wrote down? I said,

1929
02:54:20.920 --> 02:54:24.760
you said this, you know, you said, write down what

1930
02:54:24.920 --> 02:54:30.520
thing's going to happen next. And apparently we weren't supposed

1931
02:54:30.520 --> 02:54:34.440
to use our creative minds, were you know, we were

1932
02:54:34.440 --> 02:54:40.399
supposed to stick to the topic, which I didn't do.

1933
02:54:40.559 --> 02:54:42.799
I think I did it inn it because it's about

1934
02:54:42.799 --> 02:54:45.719
a monster, isn't it. I think Grendall or I think

1935
02:54:45.719 --> 02:54:49.079
of the name of it. It's about a monster and

1936
02:54:49.280 --> 02:54:55.959
like a King Arthur type person who's who slays the monster.

1937
02:54:57.319 --> 02:55:00.479
But then I started talking about vampires and us and

1938
02:55:02.520 --> 02:55:05.879
curly worthies, and I just kind of, I guess I

1939
02:55:06.000 --> 02:55:08.840
moved a little bit away from the actual story and

1940
02:55:09.040 --> 02:55:13.479
told a different story. However, in my defense, I didn't

1941
02:55:13.520 --> 02:55:15.520
know how the story was going to end because it

1942
02:55:15.680 --> 02:55:19.360
only read like one chapter or maybe two chapters, so

1943
02:55:19.440 --> 02:55:24.680
I could have gone in the direction I had. They

1944
02:55:24.840 --> 02:55:33.319
might not have invented a plane. I don't know, it

1945
02:55:33.479 --> 02:55:40.120
could be anything. Perhaps perhaps the monster didn't turn into

1946
02:55:40.200 --> 02:55:45.799
chocolate and melt and everyone just ate him because it

1947
02:55:45.959 --> 02:55:52.360
was tasty. I don't know. So apparently I got marked

1948
02:55:52.399 --> 02:55:56.760
down really low and he said it was it wasn't

1949
02:55:56.799 --> 02:55:59.840
a complimentary. What he said to me was a complimentary

1950
02:56:00.079 --> 02:56:05.920
at all. And after that I thought, you know what,

1951
02:56:08.719 --> 02:56:14.879
that's what you know? I just like, nah done. And

1952
02:56:15.000 --> 02:56:18.760
that was the end of my academic career at school.

1953
02:56:19.760 --> 02:56:24.040
Nipped in the bud, probably two days in of the

1954
02:56:24.079 --> 02:56:28.319
first year of high school. Because I put everything into

1955
02:56:28.399 --> 02:56:32.319
that story. Who was creative. I don't know if it's

1956
02:56:32.360 --> 02:56:34.639
funny or lot, but it, you know, had silly things

1957
02:56:34.680 --> 02:56:38.319
in it and He just completely dismantled it and told

1958
02:56:38.319 --> 02:56:41.920
me it was ridiculous. And you know, from then on

1959
02:56:44.120 --> 02:56:46.680
I was done and didn't bother with school at all,

1960
02:56:49.600 --> 02:56:57.639
just turned up, just went through emotions quite windy. You

1961
02:56:57.719 --> 02:57:01.840
know what's weird, right? I heard someone climbing onto the roof,

1962
02:57:01.920 --> 02:57:03.479
but I didn't hear him get down off the roof,

1963
02:57:05.319 --> 02:57:12.799
which I think is quite strange, don't you think, seriously

1964
02:57:12.920 --> 02:57:16.920
climb onto the roof because they got scaffolding up and

1965
02:57:17.000 --> 02:57:22.239
they're supposed to be putting some kind of netting over

1966
02:57:22.479 --> 02:57:28.319
the solar panels to stop birds from getting on them.

1967
02:57:31.479 --> 02:57:33.200
So I see him climb up, but I didn't hear

1968
02:57:33.280 --> 02:57:40.000
him climb down. And I'm just repeating myself, but I

1969
02:57:40.079 --> 02:57:44.159
wonder if he's still up there, because I saw him

1970
02:57:44.200 --> 02:57:46.319
climb up. I saw him climb up, I didn't hear

1971
02:57:46.399 --> 02:57:49.239
him climb down, and it was quite noisy when he

1972
02:57:49.280 --> 02:57:51.799
did climb up. It's not something that I don't think

1973
02:57:51.879 --> 02:57:56.280
he could. I don't think it's something he could do

1974
02:57:56.399 --> 02:58:08.920
easily without causing and sound. Mm hmmm. Let me just

1975
02:58:09.159 --> 02:58:21.000
see what other good memories, happy memories. I would say

1976
02:58:21.440 --> 02:58:23.479
the last day of school, but it wasn't.

1977
02:58:23.719 --> 02:58:27.559
I didn't enjoy it. It was a weird, weird one.

1978
02:58:36.200 --> 02:58:43.520
Birthdays, any happy birthdays, Yeah, christ I'll say it. Christmas.

1979
02:58:44.239 --> 02:58:47.000
I've got happy memories of Christmas, but they kind of

1980
02:58:47.239 --> 02:58:50.520
mingle into different memories, if you know what I mean.

1981
02:58:50.559 --> 02:58:50.840
It's not.

1982
02:58:52.680 --> 02:58:53.600
Necessarily have.

1983
02:58:55.920 --> 02:58:57.239
Okay, there's memories that I.

1984
02:58:57.360 --> 02:59:04.079
Know were happy. Ish. I've never been a particularly happy person,

1985
02:59:04.239 --> 02:59:08.319
so's just I don't see I've done things I did.

1986
02:59:10.040 --> 02:59:15.360
I think it's an enthusiasm thing. Yeah.

1987
02:59:16.360 --> 02:59:19.680
When I got my bike, I wasn't my first bike,

1988
02:59:19.799 --> 02:59:25.760
but when I got my Racer, I was probably about thirteen,

1989
02:59:31.760 --> 02:59:39.399
and I dreamt about this bike. I felt like it

1990
02:59:39.559 --> 02:59:43.399
was gonna Absolutely it's weird, but I felt like it

1991
02:59:43.520 --> 02:59:48.799
was going to transform my entire life because up to

1992
02:59:48.920 --> 02:59:51.399
this point I was walking around doing my paper around,

1993
02:59:53.040 --> 02:59:56.840
you know, and it was a long slog. But I thought,

1994
02:59:56.879 --> 03:00:01.680
if I got a bike, I could do summuch quicker.

1995
03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:05.639
And I did.

1996
03:00:11.520 --> 03:00:14.239
Can you hear that the gates It didn't even seem

1997
03:00:14.559 --> 03:00:21.879
seemptically windy today earlier, but now it does a little

1998
03:00:21.920 --> 03:00:30.319
bit because the garden gate keeps binging, banging, banging.

1999
03:00:31.200 --> 03:00:31.399
Yeah.

2000
03:00:37.680 --> 03:00:43.120
The thing is every single Christmas morning from the age

2001
03:00:43.159 --> 03:00:52.319
of seven to the age of fourteen was pretty much brilliant.

2002
03:00:58.360 --> 03:01:03.120
So was that eight years. So had eight Christmases that

2003
03:01:03.319 --> 03:01:10.399
were always good, always good, I mean the build up varied,

2004
03:01:11.440 --> 03:01:15.479
and it was always good until after lunch. That's when

2005
03:01:15.559 --> 03:01:21.280
we probably started arguing again, the kids. But great dinner

2006
03:01:22.239 --> 03:01:26.239
the morning, this is what we used to do. Weird,

2007
03:01:26.799 --> 03:01:30.280
so we go to bed so father Christmas could come.

2008
03:01:31.120 --> 03:01:34.879
We go to bed in the evening early. But then

2009
03:01:34.879 --> 03:01:36.479
I was going to bed early anyway, because I was

2010
03:01:36.520 --> 03:01:41.000
quite young. I don't know what time I was allowed

2011
03:01:41.040 --> 03:01:46.639
to stay up to when I was fourteen. Because when

2012
03:01:46.680 --> 03:01:54.079
I was fifteen, which was the end of August two

2013
03:01:55.239 --> 03:02:01.760
ninety two, nineteen eighty five, and then the following April

2014
03:02:01.920 --> 03:02:05.000
I was I'd left school, so I could pretty much

2015
03:02:05.079 --> 03:02:08.680
stay up as a lot late as I wanted. But

2016
03:02:08.799 --> 03:02:13.760
then I had the television from fourteen onwards, so officially

2017
03:02:14.239 --> 03:02:17.200
I was supposed to be in bed, so as long

2018
03:02:17.239 --> 03:02:20.200
as I went into my bedroom by a certain time,

2019
03:02:22.639 --> 03:02:28.120
but then I'd be watching TV till early hours. I

2020
03:02:28.319 --> 03:02:37.239
loved it. Oh, always loved television when I was a kid.

2021
03:02:38.360 --> 03:02:44.360
That was my comfort television. And the less people in

2022
03:02:44.440 --> 03:02:47.239
the room, the better. Seriously, if I was on my own,

2023
03:02:47.719 --> 03:02:51.159
that was the best time to watch television. I just

2024
03:02:51.520 --> 03:02:54.000
loved my own I didn't love my own company. It's

2025
03:02:54.000 --> 03:02:59.479
probably not the right word, but I guess it's when

2026
03:02:59.520 --> 03:03:02.399
I felt felt safest. Really, when I was on my own.

2027
03:03:03.200 --> 03:03:06.719
Maybe I don't know. I felt more relaxed. Yeah, that's it.

2028
03:03:06.959 --> 03:03:10.040
I always felt more relaxed when I was by myself,

2029
03:03:12.600 --> 03:03:15.120
because that can just be me, I can do me,

2030
03:03:15.719 --> 03:03:19.799
just be me, no pretense.

2031
03:03:20.079 --> 03:03:25.360
No, I don't know.

2032
03:03:27.440 --> 03:03:29.639
That's why I haven't for any here is a problem

2033
03:03:29.719 --> 03:03:33.319
sometimes because I'm always showing off to him. So he

2034
03:03:33.440 --> 03:03:37.200
sometimes said, it's just listen, Dad, can you just relax

2035
03:03:38.120 --> 03:03:41.239
just you know, you don't have to be on all

2036
03:03:41.319 --> 03:03:47.639
the time. Just relaxed, chill out, just calm down, okay, Ny, Sorry,

2037
03:03:48.920 --> 03:03:49.559
sorry son.

2038
03:03:52.520 --> 03:03:52.840
Hmm.

2039
03:03:59.399 --> 03:04:02.760
See that is annoying now now, and I should be

2040
03:04:02.760 --> 03:04:03.319
able to let it go.

2041
03:04:03.520 --> 03:04:04.559
Bark contant.

2042
03:04:09.000 --> 03:04:12.559
So we'd wake up in the morning Christmas morning, we'd

2043
03:04:12.600 --> 03:04:18.440
all come downstairs in our pajamas and we're coming to

2044
03:04:18.559 --> 03:04:22.440
the living room and they'd be these we'd have big

2045
03:04:22.799 --> 03:04:27.079
sacks in front of the Christmas tree full of presents

2046
03:04:27.360 --> 03:04:31.799
that would all have on this one particular Christmas, there

2047
03:04:31.920 --> 03:04:36.000
was three bikes because I wanted a bike out For

2048
03:04:36.040 --> 03:04:39.840
the first I thought they got me three bikes like

2049
03:04:40.040 --> 03:04:44.799
I he expected one, and then my brothers pushed me

2050
03:04:44.840 --> 03:04:49.159
out the way. Then I realized that they had one

2051
03:04:49.200 --> 03:04:54.159
as well each. It took the shine off a little bit.

2052
03:04:55.479 --> 03:05:00.120
You know, I never was much of a sharer. It's

2053
03:05:00.159 --> 03:05:04.079
an amazing the weird thing about it. I knew I

2054
03:05:04.159 --> 03:05:05.680
was getting a bike, but I didn't believe I was

2055
03:05:05.719 --> 03:05:11.280
getting a bike because next to the newsagents where I

2056
03:05:11.360 --> 03:05:16.360
used to click my papers in the evening, I used

2057
03:05:16.399 --> 03:05:21.000
to go into the sometimes it was raining and going

2058
03:05:21.000 --> 03:05:25.120
into the bike shop just pretending to Actually I probably

2059
03:05:25.159 --> 03:05:27.639
was looking at the bikes because I was fantasizing. But

2060
03:05:27.760 --> 03:05:29.799
sometimes I just go in there just pretending to look

2061
03:05:29.840 --> 03:05:32.280
at the bikes while I wait for my papers to

2062
03:05:32.360 --> 03:05:39.360
be sorted because I didn't want to get wet. And

2063
03:05:39.440 --> 03:05:41.520
I was looking at this bike, thinking I like this one,

2064
03:05:42.520 --> 03:05:47.520
and I saw my name on it, literally my name

2065
03:05:47.600 --> 03:05:53.760
and my address. Now is how insecure I was back then.

2066
03:05:55.360 --> 03:05:59.280
I still didn't believe it was for me, but my name,

2067
03:06:00.239 --> 03:06:05.200
name and my full address so clearly had been purchased,

2068
03:06:05.799 --> 03:06:08.040
and it was just waiting there to be picked up

2069
03:06:08.280 --> 03:06:11.479
just before Christmas because I didn't have anywhere to put it,

2070
03:06:12.399 --> 03:06:14.799
so they probably wait until Christmas Eve to collect it.

2071
03:06:19.440 --> 03:06:24.399
And it was a racer with blue handlebars. This strap

2072
03:06:24.479 --> 03:06:28.280
that went around it blue and had a bell on it.

2073
03:06:31.239 --> 03:06:34.440
I think the brakes were both on the end of

2074
03:06:34.479 --> 03:06:36.680
the handle bars and at the top of the handle bars.

2075
03:06:39.399 --> 03:06:45.760
And it was brilliant. I loved it. I think it

2076
03:06:45.879 --> 03:06:49.680
had a probably had a little rack on the back

2077
03:06:49.760 --> 03:06:58.920
as well. But I really didn't believe it. It was mine, Well,

2078
03:06:58.959 --> 03:07:04.239
it was going to be my until Christmas Day came.

2079
03:07:05.479 --> 03:07:13.760
I still didn't believe it. And then Christmas Day came,

2080
03:07:13.879 --> 03:07:17.520
and I remember just after Christmas, when all the shops

2081
03:07:17.559 --> 03:07:19.879
opened again, I went back in that shop just to

2082
03:07:19.920 --> 03:07:24.879
make sure it was gone. I was going to find

2083
03:07:24.959 --> 03:07:28.319
the same bike still in there with my name on it. Weird.

2084
03:07:34.840 --> 03:07:36.399
And then I come out of the shop and I

2085
03:07:36.479 --> 03:07:42.159
see it outside the shop. I'm like, it's moved. Then

2086
03:07:42.200 --> 03:07:45.920
I realized this my bike, isn't it just left it outside.

2087
03:07:52.360 --> 03:07:58.559
Christmas dinner was always nice. The downside to Christmas dinner

2088
03:07:58.719 --> 03:08:02.200
was doing a washing up. Wow, can you hear that?

2089
03:08:02.360 --> 03:08:08.399
Gates Neboy used to have a gate there, and one

2090
03:08:08.440 --> 03:08:10.879
of the neighbors moaned, I want to gate, you want

2091
03:08:10.920 --> 03:08:13.840
to go? We got a gate? Why we've got a gate?

2092
03:08:18.239 --> 03:08:21.239
So they put the council put a gate up, which

2093
03:08:21.280 --> 03:08:25.000
is ironic because the person that moaned isn't even a

2094
03:08:25.079 --> 03:08:30.159
council person. He bought his property, so it's not even council.

2095
03:08:31.399 --> 03:08:33.959
But he moaned to the council. And when when the

2096
03:08:34.040 --> 03:08:37.040
gate there. I don't know why. I just feel it's

2097
03:08:37.079 --> 03:08:41.159
important to have a gate because it's a gap. And

2098
03:08:42.440 --> 03:08:44.920
I missed all the banging. When it's windy. I like

2099
03:08:45.000 --> 03:08:47.120
to hear the gate banging really loudly.

2100
03:08:47.840 --> 03:08:48.360
It gives me.

2101
03:08:48.520 --> 03:08:49.799
Comforting my toes.

2102
03:08:51.760 --> 03:08:52.200
I don't know.

2103
03:08:58.159 --> 03:09:01.360
What other things that I look forward to, What things

2104
03:09:01.440 --> 03:09:01.959
I enjoy.

2105
03:09:02.520 --> 03:09:06.040
I enjoyed. I got pleasure.

2106
03:09:06.559 --> 03:09:11.719
I was happy having a big bag of presence. That

2107
03:09:11.879 --> 03:09:19.879
was nice because I realized early on that Christmas was

2108
03:09:19.920 --> 03:09:28.440
about receiving, not giving, and that was the thing I preferred.

2109
03:09:28.719 --> 03:09:34.440
That's what I like most. You know, I could pretend otherwise,

2110
03:09:34.479 --> 03:09:37.479
but it's not true. I enjoyed. I was interested in

2111
03:09:37.520 --> 03:09:41.120
what I was going to get. It might be because

2112
03:09:42.639 --> 03:09:44.799
for the first seven years I didn't really have any toys,

2113
03:09:45.040 --> 03:09:51.040
So maybe that's what it was. But I loved Christmas.

2114
03:09:51.760 --> 03:09:54.479
I love my birthday as well, getting toys, getting new

2115
03:09:54.639 --> 03:10:03.079
stuff absolutely did. I'm not going to lie. And the

2116
03:10:03.200 --> 03:10:06.159
whole thing of how does someone else like what I

2117
03:10:06.239 --> 03:10:09.360
got them? How does that affect me?

2118
03:10:12.200 --> 03:10:12.959
Narcissist.

2119
03:10:14.239 --> 03:10:20.000
So I used to like and try and go somewhere

2120
03:10:20.760 --> 03:10:23.399
I'd find it, like a little space of the city

2121
03:10:24.639 --> 03:10:28.719
where i'd be as far away from everyone else as possible,

2122
03:10:29.239 --> 03:10:31.959
and I'll open them and I'd like say, oh, thank you,

2123
03:10:32.079 --> 03:10:33.680
and I shout the name out and then move on

2124
03:10:33.760 --> 03:10:39.600
to the next one and pile them up. You know,

2125
03:10:43.719 --> 03:10:48.319
there's always one one special gift, like what we got

2126
03:10:48.399 --> 03:10:51.600
the bikes, There's always one. There was a little bit more,

2127
03:10:53.760 --> 03:10:56.799
a little bit more stound, it stood out a little bit,

2128
03:10:57.920 --> 03:11:00.840
and there'd be lots of small presents which I also liked,

2129
03:11:01.280 --> 03:11:05.159
a little chocolate bars and little box of chocolates and

2130
03:11:07.200 --> 03:11:14.000
basically anything with sugar in I liked. I'll start eating them.

2131
03:11:16.319 --> 03:11:18.479
And we weren't supposed to eat them because we could

2132
03:11:18.520 --> 03:11:25.840
spoil our lunch, but I never did. Although I couldn't

2133
03:11:25.840 --> 03:11:34.200
always eat Christmas pudding. Never been a massive fan of

2134
03:11:34.319 --> 03:11:37.719
Christmas cake, I think I prefer it now compared to

2135
03:11:37.760 --> 03:11:43.399
when I was a little I liked it, but it

2136
03:11:43.520 --> 03:11:50.040
was the marsie pan and the icin it was a

2137
03:11:50.079 --> 03:11:54.799
little bit too much for me. But the Christmas cake

2138
03:11:54.840 --> 03:11:59.639
itself was yummy, yum yum. And I did like Christmas pudding,

2139
03:12:01.399 --> 03:12:06.360
not with custard. Never a custard, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,

2140
03:12:07.239 --> 03:12:13.399
could never eat custard, will never eat custard. But ice

2141
03:12:13.520 --> 03:12:25.959
cream or cream, whipped cream. What's it called it? Carnation milk?

2142
03:12:26.719 --> 03:12:30.680
Carnation milk. That was nicely just like that. I don't

2143
03:12:30.680 --> 03:12:32.600
know if you can even buy it anymore. Used to

2144
03:12:32.680 --> 03:12:35.239
be in a tin and you don't in a tin

2145
03:12:35.360 --> 03:12:40.239
up and it was it was lovely, really nice. Used

2146
03:12:40.239 --> 03:12:44.159
to use it in cooking as well when I used

2147
03:12:44.159 --> 03:12:54.840
to go to school and cook stuff like cakes. I

2148
03:12:55.000 --> 03:12:59.040
really loved the books. I just always love. It's just

2149
03:12:59.120 --> 03:13:03.680
something about the smell ill of a new book. Mm hmmm,

2150
03:13:06.959 --> 03:13:09.639
so tasty. Love. I don't want to eat them, but

2151
03:13:09.879 --> 03:13:21.680
just they smell great. It's just yeah, or I'm not

2152
03:13:21.760 --> 03:13:24.040
sure what other part of Christmas I liked. I suppose

2153
03:13:24.120 --> 03:13:28.559
just eating. I like the eating. I didn't like wearing

2154
03:13:28.600 --> 03:13:33.520
a hat Christmas hair never really appealed to me. My

2155
03:13:33.639 --> 03:13:39.239
dad still insists on it even now. We met up

2156
03:13:39.239 --> 03:13:41.920
in a park last Christmas locally to where I live

2157
03:13:43.520 --> 03:13:48.600
Andybody Christmas dinner and there no one else is having

2158
03:13:48.600 --> 03:13:52.280
a Christmas dinner, and my dad insisted that we all

2159
03:13:52.360 --> 03:13:55.520
wear Christmas hats out of the crackers. And there's all

2160
03:13:55.520 --> 03:13:58.479
these people just out having a drink because it was

2161
03:13:58.559 --> 03:14:03.319
like the first week of December. And I said this,

2162
03:14:03.479 --> 03:14:05.360
I don't really want to where his house hat. And

2163
03:14:06.239 --> 03:14:08.440
my dad said why. I said, because I'm hoping to

2164
03:14:08.520 --> 03:14:11.239
have sex again one day and I'm in this pub

2165
03:14:11.319 --> 03:14:13.600
with all these people, and this is not going to

2166
03:14:13.639 --> 03:14:16.680
help me. It's not going to help my cause. So

2167
03:14:16.719 --> 03:14:20.399
I looked ridiculous. He said, well, if you didn't want

2168
03:14:20.399 --> 03:14:22.600
to look ridiculous, and you should have come out wearing

2169
03:14:22.680 --> 03:14:30.799
some trousers, which is a good point. I suppose one

2170
03:14:30.799 --> 03:14:44.280
of the good moments. I'm just trying to think happiest

2171
03:14:44.680 --> 03:14:50.000
happy moments. There's probably a few, but I can't remember them.

2172
03:14:50.399 --> 03:14:58.079
I can't think of anything during the eighties particularly, nothing

2173
03:14:58.239 --> 03:15:11.319
stands out. During the nineties two thousands. I said there

2174
03:15:11.440 --> 03:15:18.520
was one happy moment I broke the sales record at

2175
03:15:19.079 --> 03:15:22.440
Churchill Insurance. So I sold more than anyone else ever

2176
03:15:22.559 --> 03:15:28.799
had in one week. That record has broken two weeks later,

2177
03:15:29.600 --> 03:15:32.479
which was a bit annoying, but yeah, at least I

2178
03:15:32.559 --> 03:15:36.639
held a record for a while. Two weeks, but that

2179
03:15:36.840 --> 03:15:40.719
was a good moment. There's another one who's quite cool.

2180
03:15:41.280 --> 03:15:46.760
When I was selling phone contracts, I went into work

2181
03:15:47.559 --> 03:15:53.079
on a Monday. I've been working there for maybe two weeks,

2182
03:15:53.200 --> 03:15:57.040
three weeks, and I would a manage. One were just

2183
03:15:57.159 --> 03:16:03.840
staring at me, and I said he and one of

2184
03:16:03.920 --> 03:16:09.600
the supervisors or the sales leader said have you seen

2185
03:16:10.079 --> 03:16:12.280
have you he said? He said something like how do

2186
03:16:12.360 --> 03:16:15.440
you do it? I said what? I said? How do

2187
03:16:15.559 --> 03:16:19.239
you just? I said, what are you talking about?

2188
03:16:19.760 --> 03:16:23.440
So, even not seeing the board, I said what board?

2189
03:16:23.840 --> 03:16:27.159
I mean, I've seen boards before, any particular board you

2190
03:16:27.239 --> 03:16:31.600
want to talk about? And he was talking about the

2191
03:16:31.639 --> 03:16:35.879
sales board. And I was number two out of everyone.

2192
03:16:37.639 --> 03:16:45.319
I was the second highest seller, and I didn't even

2193
03:16:45.440 --> 03:16:50.520
get that many sales because what happened is the person

2194
03:16:50.559 --> 03:16:54.120
who was the top fifty percent of the people that

2195
03:16:54.239 --> 03:16:59.600
said yes they having a new phone contract canceled before

2196
03:16:59.639 --> 03:17:02.079
they even got any further. You know, they'd phone them

2197
03:17:02.159 --> 03:17:04.040
up because that's what they did. We'd do the work,

2198
03:17:04.159 --> 03:17:06.399
then they'd call up just to confirm that they were happy,

2199
03:17:07.719 --> 03:17:11.559
and then send the new phone out to them. Fifty

2200
03:17:11.600 --> 03:17:14.639
percent of her people said no, so she was getting

2201
03:17:14.639 --> 03:17:17.120
a lot more yeses than me. But then they turned

2202
03:17:17.159 --> 03:17:28.040
to fifty percent turn into notes. I'd say probably ninety percent,

2203
03:17:28.200 --> 03:17:32.680
maybe eighty percent. Probably ninety percent of my yes is

2204
03:17:32.920 --> 03:17:38.120
stage yeses. And they did like they didn't understand how

2205
03:17:38.399 --> 03:17:41.040
how are you doing what you do? But I didn't

2206
03:17:41.079 --> 03:17:44.440
know how I was doing it. I've got no idea,

2207
03:17:44.600 --> 03:17:48.079
still don't know it, just because it was cold calling,

2208
03:17:48.159 --> 03:17:50.840
so people phoning people up didn't know who the heck

2209
03:17:50.879 --> 03:17:58.520
I was, and yeah it was it's not the easiest

2210
03:17:58.639 --> 03:18:02.040
job in the world, but they couldn't figure It's like,

2211
03:18:03.360 --> 03:18:08.600
how how have you done this? And from then on

2212
03:18:08.719 --> 03:18:15.680
they kind of seemed to like me. Yeah, that was

2213
03:18:15.719 --> 03:18:26.639
a nice feeling. It was a nice feeling, and another

2214
03:18:26.799 --> 03:18:30.000
nice feeling, so it's like these I suppose these little

2215
03:18:30.040 --> 03:18:38.399
happy moments. I was working for Churchill and the sales

2216
03:18:38.520 --> 03:18:44.280
manager came in and told me that they were using

2217
03:18:44.799 --> 03:18:48.799
because they recorded all the calls, so they were using

2218
03:18:48.959 --> 03:18:54.639
my cause to train the new recruits on. Because I

2219
03:18:54.799 --> 03:19:00.360
was I kind of ticked most of the boxes. I

2220
03:19:00.520 --> 03:19:04.040
wasn't the top top top salesperson. I was in the

2221
03:19:04.120 --> 03:19:11.399
top five. I have about two hundred. But my conversion

2222
03:19:11.559 --> 03:19:15.959
was better than everyone else's. So my call to quote

2223
03:19:18.440 --> 03:19:20.840
was better than everyone else's, and my call to sail

2224
03:19:21.559 --> 03:19:23.760
was better than everyone else's, and my quote to sell

2225
03:19:24.239 --> 03:19:28.000
was better than everyone else's. So I just had a

2226
03:19:28.200 --> 03:19:35.239
high higher level of Yeah, it sounds like I'm bragging,

2227
03:19:35.399 --> 03:19:36.399
This is just factual.

2228
03:19:36.600 --> 03:19:37.440
This is what happened.

2229
03:19:39.159 --> 03:19:41.559
I don't know why. I think it was because I talked.

2230
03:19:41.959 --> 03:19:44.399
I didn't just rush through the court and get rid

2231
03:19:44.399 --> 03:19:47.239
of them. I actually built up some kind of report

2232
03:19:48.159 --> 03:19:59.040
with them, rapport. So yeah, and nicer moment, happy moment.

2233
03:20:00.559 --> 03:20:04.719
So nothing for the rest of that period. Nothing for

2234
03:20:05.440 --> 03:20:13.479
two thousand and four, two thousand and five, two thousand

2235
03:20:13.479 --> 03:20:18.600
and six. I would say probably had a few happy,

2236
03:20:19.040 --> 03:20:22.600
happy memories from two thousand and six, because that's when

2237
03:20:22.639 --> 03:20:28.399
I started doing all this stuff. So visiting the lady

2238
03:20:28.479 --> 03:20:33.120
that needed, you know, a couple of people that needed operations,

2239
03:20:34.399 --> 03:20:38.760
helping them to reduce the pain and to reduce you know,

2240
03:20:38.959 --> 03:20:44.600
the worrying of it, going into hospital and doing some

2241
03:20:44.760 --> 03:20:52.600
hypnosis with someone in hospital, starting to do group sessions

2242
03:20:52.719 --> 03:20:59.760
in rehab, a couple of rehab centers, starting a website

2243
03:21:00.040 --> 03:21:03.719
of the website, and you know all that stuff. So

2244
03:21:03.799 --> 03:21:08.840
there there's lots of quite nice feelings during two thousand

2245
03:21:08.879 --> 03:21:12.680
and six, two thousand and seven, there's a few really

2246
03:21:12.799 --> 03:21:24.000
nice moments. Two thousand and ten, I suppose finding out

2247
03:21:24.079 --> 03:21:26.440
that I had passed my I'd got my degree. That

2248
03:21:26.559 --> 03:21:35.719
was a nice feeling. Twenty eleven, twenty twelve, and nothing

2249
03:21:36.959 --> 03:21:46.840
twenty thirteen, twenty and fourteen, twenty fifteen. Probably getting this flat.

2250
03:21:47.200 --> 03:21:51.120
That was a happy moment, just knowing that I had

2251
03:21:51.200 --> 03:21:56.200
my own home, but technically, you know, it's provided I

2252
03:21:57.479 --> 03:22:08.840
behaved myself. This is a homeful lot. And then probably

2253
03:22:08.879 --> 03:22:13.079
that moment, as I said with Andre, when he climbed

2254
03:22:13.120 --> 03:22:22.959
up my sleeve. There was a really happy moment I

2255
03:22:23.040 --> 03:22:27.520
had when I woke up and Vinnie's Vinnie was asleep,

2256
03:22:27.639 --> 03:22:32.559
but his head his chin was rested on my chest.

2257
03:22:33.840 --> 03:22:37.399
That was lovely. I really enjoyed that. It's strange, just

2258
03:22:37.520 --> 03:22:41.559
little things like that. It gave me it. It was

2259
03:22:41.680 --> 03:23:00.920
such a beautiful, wet start of the day, and I

2260
03:23:00.959 --> 03:23:09.079
can't think of anything else offhand. Yeah, there's a few, though,

2261
03:23:09.120 --> 03:23:12.719
isn't it. I know you did ask you know what

2262
03:23:13.000 --> 03:23:16.040
was the most It's very difficult for me to think

2263
03:23:16.079 --> 03:23:21.079
of just one example. There's never just one thing. I mean,

2264
03:23:21.840 --> 03:23:26.360
I suppose if I had a baby, or if I'd

2265
03:23:26.399 --> 03:23:31.600
gotten married, something like that would possibly be I guess

2266
03:23:31.600 --> 03:23:35.360
that'd be quite important to me, wouldn't it. So I suppose,

2267
03:23:36.479 --> 03:23:41.319
So maybe my happiest moment would be seeing my newborn

2268
03:23:41.440 --> 03:23:49.280
child for the first time, or getting married and getting

2269
03:23:49.399 --> 03:23:54.000
to make love to my new wife for the first time,

2270
03:23:54.120 --> 03:23:58.239
and just be so relieved that she doesn't ever really,

2271
03:23:58.520 --> 03:24:04.520
I don't know, it could be anything. It's the joy

2272
03:24:06.120 --> 03:24:07.760
or that she did have one. I don't know, however,

2273
03:24:07.799 --> 03:24:18.239
you look at it. So I can't think of much more. Yeah,

2274
03:24:25.559 --> 03:24:28.920
I'm going to hope that there's sometimes ahead, some happy

2275
03:24:29.000 --> 03:24:37.040
times ahead, I hope. So. Yeah, even if the wind

2276
03:24:37.159 --> 03:24:46.360
is blowing that that limit thingy bashing that thing against

2277
03:24:46.479 --> 03:24:54.159
the thing constantly in the garden the gate, that's it.

2278
03:24:54.319 --> 03:24:58.079
I couldn't think of the name bashing the thing against

2279
03:24:58.200 --> 03:25:01.200
the thing. I knew what I meant. Maybe you didn't,

2280
03:25:01.319 --> 03:25:10.600
but you do now. Yeah, I can't think of any

2281
03:25:10.639 --> 03:25:22.280
other things off the top of my head. I yeah,

2282
03:25:22.399 --> 03:25:26.120
my memories of being particularly happy. There's a few, isn't

2283
03:25:26.120 --> 03:25:26.639
there a few?

2284
03:25:26.680 --> 03:25:41.879
There? Not bad? Yeah, m m hm hmm. Indeed, right.

2285
03:25:44.120 --> 03:26:01.840
Next we have uh huh, that's weird. The old thing,

2286
03:26:02.000 --> 03:26:03.680
the jagg has gone a weird as.

2287
03:26:14.159 --> 03:26:14.920
Here we go.

2288
03:26:20.000 --> 03:26:25.239
Rich asks in your last few let me buy you

2289
03:26:25.360 --> 03:26:30.120
to sleeps. You've talked about how hot it is. I

2290
03:26:30.319 --> 03:26:35.879
assume by your podcasts that you do not have central AC?

2291
03:26:38.639 --> 03:26:41.479
Are you able to put a window AC unit in

2292
03:26:44.040 --> 03:26:49.680
a window fan? I live in Florida and have central AC.

2293
03:26:50.440 --> 03:26:53.079
When I was a kid, we had an AC, but

2294
03:26:53.239 --> 03:26:56.639
we did have a big window fan that blew. That

2295
03:26:56.760 --> 03:26:59.159
did a lot. I don't remember as a kid ever

2296
03:26:59.280 --> 03:27:06.040
being hot in side. In this country we're in where

2297
03:27:06.079 --> 03:27:11.360
I live in England, air conditioning isn't.

2298
03:27:11.120 --> 03:27:11.680
Really a thing.

2299
03:27:13.840 --> 03:27:17.760
I mean, it's a thing, but it's not really a

2300
03:27:17.879 --> 03:27:22.760
thing in a sense of it's not a hot country.

2301
03:27:23.879 --> 03:27:31.360
We have a few hot days and I would say

2302
03:27:31.639 --> 03:27:35.840
just generally we kind of put up with it. It's

2303
03:27:35.920 --> 03:27:39.879
not to say that there's no housard with air conditioning,

2304
03:27:39.879 --> 03:27:51.840
because of course there is, and offices have air conditioning. Yeah,

2305
03:27:52.000 --> 03:27:54.879
I think most offices I've been in I've got air conditioning,

2306
03:27:56.559 --> 03:28:06.399
but here, like in the houses schools I wanted to

2307
03:28:06.440 --> 03:28:14.680
schools have air conditioning, I don't think so the school

2308
03:28:14.719 --> 03:28:17.120
I lived in when I was I never lived in

2309
03:28:17.200 --> 03:28:19.680
a school. What am I talking about the school I

2310
03:28:19.719 --> 03:28:22.000
went to, Well, any of the schools I went to

2311
03:28:22.120 --> 03:28:25.399
when I was a kid no air conditioning. I didn't

2312
03:28:25.399 --> 03:28:32.079
even know what air conditioning was. It's a little bit

2313
03:28:32.280 --> 03:28:36.079
like we do have central heating. That would be an

2314
03:28:36.120 --> 03:28:40.719
issue because it's a cold country. You know, there's more

2315
03:28:40.760 --> 03:28:45.760
cold days and warm days, so if there's no central heat,

2316
03:28:45.799 --> 03:28:50.840
and that's a real issue. So central heating over air

2317
03:28:50.879 --> 03:28:54.959
conditioning is you know, a million percent of the priority

2318
03:28:55.680 --> 03:29:05.079
for people living in this country. I reckon I could

2319
03:29:05.120 --> 03:29:18.159
probably count. I can't imagine we have more than five

2320
03:29:18.600 --> 03:29:26.079
uncomfortable days a year heat wise. I mean, I know

2321
03:29:26.120 --> 03:29:32.000
it depends upon a person's situation, you know. If because

2322
03:29:32.399 --> 03:29:42.600
everyone experiences comfort and stuff differently, that's it. But from

2323
03:29:42.639 --> 03:29:51.200
a personal perspective, I would say I probably feel overheated

2324
03:29:54.639 --> 03:29:59.879
five times a year. Maybe if that by the weather.

2325
03:30:00.120 --> 03:30:07.239
I mean, there was a couple of days last week,

2326
03:30:14.120 --> 03:30:18.120
Oh that was world time, wasn't it The ice cream man?

2327
03:30:18.760 --> 03:30:28.680
The ice cream man is coming, or ice cream woman

2328
03:30:29.840 --> 03:30:37.559
or ice cream person. It's I could definitely eat an

2329
03:30:37.600 --> 03:30:40.440
ice cream. It's not cold, it's not warm today, but

2330
03:30:42.159 --> 03:30:44.840
it's still a nice day. It's to stop raining now.

2331
03:30:49.440 --> 03:30:56.840
Uh yeah, I've never lived anywhere they had air conditioning.

2332
03:31:02.239 --> 03:31:06.520
It's really it's hard for me to generalize because I

2333
03:31:06.559 --> 03:31:10.360
would say air conditioning is just not a thing. It's

2334
03:31:10.440 --> 03:31:14.079
not a general thing in this country. If we're looking

2335
03:31:14.159 --> 03:31:19.280
at buildings that were built like homes, I mean, if

2336
03:31:19.319 --> 03:31:25.319
we aim at homes, so every home would have windows,

2337
03:31:27.159 --> 03:31:31.600
every every home would have some kind of heating system.

2338
03:31:32.440 --> 03:31:37.040
I mean generally central heating, but it could be underfloor,

2339
03:31:37.360 --> 03:31:40.959
underfloor heating. It could be you know, every every home

2340
03:31:41.120 --> 03:31:46.319
has heating in it. I suppose it's all called central heating,

2341
03:31:46.399 --> 03:31:53.600
isn't it, because it's a central heating system instead of radiators.

2342
03:31:58.000 --> 03:32:07.399
Every home that's built in this country has a bathroom,

2343
03:32:08.959 --> 03:32:12.799
may not have a bath, but may have a shower.

2344
03:32:14.440 --> 03:32:21.840
And the bathrooms here we have eve a bath, a

2345
03:32:22.000 --> 03:32:26.879
toilet and a sink, or a shower, a toilet and

2346
03:32:26.959 --> 03:32:30.879
a sink. So that's what we class the bathroom. See

2347
03:32:31.000 --> 03:32:34.440
in America, you know you have bathrooms in restaurants, don't you.

2348
03:32:35.360 --> 03:32:38.600
So you have baths and restaurants and stuff. So we

2349
03:32:38.680 --> 03:32:41.959
don't have that over here. So you know, when you

2350
03:32:43.200 --> 03:32:45.200
you know, you start seeing movies and stuff and on

2351
03:32:45.319 --> 03:32:48.639
TV shows in America when they say to the waiter,

2352
03:32:49.319 --> 03:32:52.079
can you tell me where where the bathroom is? And

2353
03:32:52.959 --> 03:32:55.600
the waiter says, oh, it's over there on the left,

2354
03:32:56.159 --> 03:33:00.760
and they go along. Well, I'll never understood how that works,

2355
03:33:00.879 --> 03:33:08.399
because I must admit, when I'm out in a restaurant,

2356
03:33:08.520 --> 03:33:10.680
I don't go to many restaurants, to be honest, but

2357
03:33:13.159 --> 03:33:17.000
I'm generally not prepared to have a bath or a

2358
03:33:17.120 --> 03:33:21.159
shower because I would want it at least a little

2359
03:33:22.879 --> 03:33:25.399
a little but a bag with some of my stuff

2360
03:33:25.479 --> 03:33:29.280
in like soap, flannel? Deal do I mean? I don't know,

2361
03:33:29.440 --> 03:33:34.479
just something to you know, I could tell Eve them

2362
03:33:34.639 --> 03:33:42.239
need a towel, but a little mirror, but you know

2363
03:33:42.479 --> 03:33:47.479
it's it's some little glasses to balance, you know. But anyway,

2364
03:33:47.520 --> 03:33:50.159
it's just it's good to have play at play play.

2365
03:33:55.280 --> 03:33:59.639
How can you be prepared unless maybe the hotels or

2366
03:33:59.639 --> 03:34:03.360
the rest rather they have all that for you, do

2367
03:34:03.479 --> 03:34:08.319
they charge extra. But then I saw someone in the

2368
03:34:08.360 --> 03:34:11.639
hospital the other day. I think they're from America, and

2369
03:34:11.719 --> 03:34:14.840
they said too. They stopped one of the porters and said,

2370
03:34:15.239 --> 03:34:17.559
excuse me if you tell me about where the bathroom is,

2371
03:34:18.479 --> 03:34:23.879
and they pointed around the corner, and a bloke walked

2372
03:34:23.920 --> 03:34:27.520
around the corner, and I thinking what I could do

2373
03:34:27.639 --> 03:34:32.040
with a bath as well, actually, or a shower at

2374
03:34:32.040 --> 03:34:34.879
the very least, because it was quite hot. I thought

2375
03:34:34.959 --> 03:34:38.159
maybe a nice shower, and then they have a little

2376
03:34:38.159 --> 03:34:40.520
bit cooler at the end and just cool off a bit.

2377
03:34:41.799 --> 03:34:44.639
And I followed him, but by the time they got

2378
03:34:44.680 --> 03:34:46.559
to where he was, he was gone. I didn't know

2379
03:34:46.639 --> 03:34:52.440
where he went into. So I couldn't find a bathroom anywhere.

2380
03:34:53.200 --> 03:34:58.399
There's just toilets. Every room just had a toilet and

2381
03:34:58.479 --> 03:35:05.159
a sink. Of baths or showers or anything, just confusing me.

2382
03:35:08.360 --> 03:35:16.799
It's almost like it's an invisible bathroom. The same in restaurants.

2383
03:35:17.040 --> 03:35:19.959
I've been in a restaurant and I've heard someone sacred

2384
03:35:20.000 --> 03:35:22.719
turn with a bathroom is, and they've gone to the bathroom.

2385
03:35:22.760 --> 03:35:26.840
And I thought to myself, you know what, I'm about

2386
03:35:26.879 --> 03:35:31.000
to eat this food and I haven't. I can't even

2387
03:35:31.000 --> 03:35:34.360
remember the last time washed my hands, so perhaps i'd

2388
03:35:34.399 --> 03:35:38.559
go and have a little shower. So I like to

2389
03:35:38.680 --> 03:35:39.959
I like to wash my hands when I have a

2390
03:35:40.040 --> 03:35:41.680
shower once.

2391
03:35:41.559 --> 03:35:47.760
A love and I look.

2392
03:35:51.239 --> 03:35:53.639
And never I've never been able to find a bathroom.

2393
03:35:59.159 --> 03:36:03.239
It's just it's confuses me. I mean even even like

2394
03:36:03.559 --> 03:36:06.879
my boss, like when I worked in the comedy club,

2395
03:36:08.520 --> 03:36:11.079
he used to talk about the bathroom because he was

2396
03:36:11.200 --> 03:36:14.319
he was Irish, but he's also American. He lived half

2397
03:36:14.399 --> 03:36:19.680
his life in America, and he'd go on a bathroom,

2398
03:36:22.600 --> 03:36:25.680
just be talking about the bathroom. Make sure the lights

2399
03:36:25.719 --> 03:36:28.079
are He actually said it once to me. He said,

2400
03:36:28.399 --> 03:36:32.600
make sure all the light bulbs are on in the bathroom.

2401
03:36:35.840 --> 03:36:38.479
So I go in and I'm looking for the bathroom,

2402
03:36:40.120 --> 03:36:42.079
and like, well, all the lights are on in the club,

2403
03:36:45.719 --> 03:36:53.600
all the lights are on in the DJ booth, All

2404
03:36:53.639 --> 03:37:02.440
the lights are on in the bar area. All the

2405
03:37:02.559 --> 03:37:15.840
lights are on in the kitchen. All the lights are

2406
03:37:15.920 --> 03:37:20.159
on in the storage area. Like would you get through

2407
03:37:20.280 --> 03:37:23.879
to that's where they stored all the kicks of beer

2408
03:37:24.000 --> 03:37:26.719
and stuff. The lights were on in there. That was

2409
03:37:26.840 --> 03:37:31.680
quite bright actually, bearing in mind you never have to

2410
03:37:31.799 --> 03:37:35.840
read out there. It was like a really nice light

2411
03:37:35.959 --> 03:37:41.040
for reading. It almost felt if you had your eyes closed,

2412
03:37:42.120 --> 03:37:51.280
like you weren't inside, like you was perhaps and you

2413
03:37:51.399 --> 03:37:53.479
just felt like you were stepping under really bright light.

2414
03:37:54.079 --> 03:37:56.879
It's going to say it could be anywhere, couldn't it. Yeah,

2415
03:37:57.360 --> 03:38:02.159
maybe that's not a good example. All the lights are

2416
03:38:02.239 --> 03:38:09.159
on in the stairway, the staircase going on the way up.

2417
03:38:09.680 --> 03:38:14.959
The lights are on in the office, the first office.

2418
03:38:16.799 --> 03:38:19.120
The lights worked. I mean they were on. It worked.

2419
03:38:19.559 --> 03:38:22.200
I didn't leave all the lights on because that would

2420
03:38:22.239 --> 03:38:27.079
be wasteful, but testing them. There was a couple of

2421
03:38:27.159 --> 03:38:31.280
light bulbs that are gone in the comics room, and

2422
03:38:31.360 --> 03:38:34.719
that's where the comedians would hang out at night after

2423
03:38:34.799 --> 03:38:37.600
the show. Or maybe it's like a I suppose you

2424
03:38:37.639 --> 03:38:40.520
could classic like a green room in a way, so

2425
03:38:40.840 --> 03:38:43.600
the comedians would get ready before the show and stuff.

2426
03:38:47.079 --> 03:38:52.559
It also had a pool table that's where the lights

2427
03:38:52.600 --> 03:38:56.719
were miss year there was. It is weird there was

2428
03:38:57.000 --> 03:39:01.280
three because there is a bunch of lights on top

2429
03:39:01.639 --> 03:39:05.680
of the pool table, like ahead, and three lights were missing.

2430
03:39:07.639 --> 03:39:10.760
But I swear you couldn't tell. I mean you could

2431
03:39:10.840 --> 03:39:14.360
if you looked, But if you didn't look, I mean

2432
03:39:14.520 --> 03:39:16.760
that could be the art. Yeah, and I suppose you

2433
03:39:16.799 --> 03:39:18.000
could argue that about anything.

2434
03:39:19.680 --> 03:39:21.600
You can't see. There is the moon if you don't look.

2435
03:39:24.760 --> 03:39:28.239
But we notice the moon because I can't see if

2436
03:39:28.239 --> 03:39:31.200
there's a sun if you don't look. Yeah, you can

2437
03:39:31.280 --> 03:39:35.360
tell the sun. How if you don't look, because we

2438
03:39:35.440 --> 03:39:39.799
wouldn't be here if there wasn't a sun. Some of

2439
03:39:39.840 --> 03:39:43.000
people get angry though, if you bring science into an argument.

2440
03:39:44.120 --> 03:39:49.280
Oh oh, so.

2441
03:39:52.600 --> 03:39:55.280
I then go into the bar because there's another bar

2442
03:39:55.520 --> 03:40:06.239
upstairs and there's no yeah, the light bulbs are working

2443
03:40:06.319 --> 03:40:06.719
in there.

2444
03:40:10.360 --> 03:40:23.600
Then well, oh.

2445
03:40:20.799 --> 03:40:28.879
Yeah, I went behind the bar in the nightclub because

2446
03:40:28.959 --> 03:40:32.639
it was a separate club to downstairs where the comedy

2447
03:40:32.680 --> 03:40:37.479
club was, and they had their own lighting system and

2448
03:40:41.079 --> 03:40:43.760
all the lines were finding there. That was very well

2449
03:40:43.879 --> 03:40:50.319
organized upstairs, relatly different staff to downstairs. Sometimes there's a

2450
03:40:50.360 --> 03:40:57.959
bit of an overlap. For example, when it was a

2451
03:40:58.079 --> 03:41:04.479
particularly busy evening upstairs, they might get some of the

2452
03:41:04.600 --> 03:41:09.399
staff from downstairs to help if it was a quieter

2453
03:41:09.600 --> 03:41:19.600
night downstairs. During that overlap, between eleven and two, or

2454
03:41:19.719 --> 03:41:23.079
maybe ten and two, because the nightclub would open around ten,

2455
03:41:24.559 --> 03:41:28.840
the comedy club would open around seven, the nightclub would

2456
03:41:28.840 --> 03:41:35.440
start getting busy. Maybe between eleven and twelve, the comedy

2457
03:41:35.479 --> 03:41:40.239
club would start. Sometimes people will be leaving and that

2458
03:41:40.280 --> 03:41:44.200
would be the end they'd leave. But then at the

2459
03:41:44.280 --> 03:41:50.239
weekend when the nightclub was on as well, the comedy

2460
03:41:50.280 --> 03:41:53.559
club had a disco tool two o'clock.

2461
03:41:57.399 --> 03:41:57.479
And.

2462
03:41:59.559 --> 03:42:05.280
Sometimes it was quiet, sometimes it was really busy, So

2463
03:42:05.399 --> 03:42:08.000
if it was really busy down there, maybe the staff

2464
03:42:08.120 --> 03:42:12.079
upstairs in the nightclub, if it wasn't busy, it would

2465
03:42:12.120 --> 03:42:18.239
come down for a little while. And sometimes if it

2466
03:42:18.440 --> 03:42:25.959
was really busy upstairs and quiet downstairs, I remember of

2467
03:42:26.000 --> 03:42:28.120
staff from my go upstairs for a couple of hours.

2468
03:42:31.760 --> 03:42:33.600
The same kind of thing is if they.

2469
03:42:36.000 --> 03:42:41.000
If upstairs run out of glasses, because it was much

2470
03:42:41.120 --> 03:42:44.959
harder to collect glasses in the nightclub than it was

2471
03:42:45.719 --> 03:42:53.600
in the comedy club because technically, well, I mean everyone

2472
03:42:53.760 --> 03:42:56.920
was seated in the comedy club apart from those people

2473
03:42:57.000 --> 03:42:57.399
at the bar.

2474
03:42:59.360 --> 03:42:59.879
But then.

2475
03:43:02.520 --> 03:43:06.600
Tickets weren't sold to those people in the bar. They didn't,

2476
03:43:06.680 --> 03:43:08.920
you know, I'm talking about that at the bar in

2477
03:43:09.239 --> 03:43:15.319
the comedy club. So it's only seats were only, or

2478
03:43:15.440 --> 03:43:25.520
rather admissions only for people seating. No one's standing, although

2479
03:43:25.959 --> 03:43:28.280
people seated could go and stand at the bar if

2480
03:43:28.319 --> 03:43:31.479
they wanted, because there was doors in between, so they

2481
03:43:31.520 --> 03:43:34.639
could still hear the show and see the show, but

2482
03:43:35.479 --> 03:43:39.559
they might want to have a little chat or maybe

2483
03:43:39.639 --> 03:43:50.120
go we wis. And because it was easier to collect

2484
03:43:50.159 --> 03:43:57.120
glasses down there, it meant that they never really ran out.

2485
03:43:59.200 --> 03:44:06.959
But up there's it was mainly standing. There were some seats,

2486
03:44:07.239 --> 03:44:15.000
there was mainly standing, and there's a little bit of dancing,

2487
03:44:15.079 --> 03:44:17.280
but it wasn't really a dancing nightclub.

2488
03:44:17.399 --> 03:44:18.120
It was more.

2489
03:44:21.799 --> 03:44:25.159
I suppose it was dancing, but it seemed to me

2490
03:44:25.360 --> 03:44:35.040
more just a kind of a gathering nightclub experience instead

2491
03:44:35.079 --> 03:44:43.159
of dancing nightclub experience. But then I didn't really go

2492
03:44:43.360 --> 03:44:49.840
up there very often because I'm not really not really

2493
03:44:50.319 --> 03:44:54.200
a nightcluby person. And I did get up there. I

2494
03:44:54.280 --> 03:44:58.360
mean probably I've probably been up there hundreds of times,

2495
03:44:58.399 --> 03:45:01.760
but I'm earning god. They were regularly as in the

2496
03:45:01.840 --> 03:45:08.479
sort of stay in the whole night, and I probably

2497
03:45:08.600 --> 03:45:15.920
went there more often once I had left London, but

2498
03:45:15.959 --> 03:45:24.920
it would only before, maybe an hour after the comedy

2499
03:45:25.000 --> 03:45:28.920
finished at the comedy club, or I might walk between

2500
03:45:28.959 --> 03:45:33.440
the two and hang out with the doorman that I knew,

2501
03:45:35.639 --> 03:45:37.360
so that would be kind of what I did, and

2502
03:45:37.520 --> 03:45:44.040
maybe i'd go upstairs to the to the nightclub because

2503
03:45:44.079 --> 03:45:47.959
I knew the back entrance, so I can sometimes I

2504
03:45:48.079 --> 03:45:53.159
go ut that way, and it was also fire escape

2505
03:45:53.159 --> 03:45:56.079
as well. But he couldn't get in and get out.

2506
03:45:56.239 --> 03:45:59.680
He couldn't get in. Well technically I suppose if you

2507
03:46:00.040 --> 03:46:03.840
you could open the door and let someone in and thought,

2508
03:46:03.879 --> 03:46:08.799
by that are too late. Now it's been closer forever

2509
03:46:09.000 --> 03:46:15.879
now closed for wow, quite a few years, six years,

2510
03:46:16.200 --> 03:46:28.719
probably seven years even maybe So sometimes the nightclub, because

2511
03:46:28.760 --> 03:46:31.680
people were standing around, it was harder to collect the

2512
03:46:31.760 --> 03:46:39.079
glasses because you couldn't really see because it's a much

2513
03:46:39.280 --> 03:46:42.719
darker environment than a comedy club. Couldn't really see where

2514
03:46:42.799 --> 03:46:46.000
the glasses were or if the glasses were full or

2515
03:46:46.159 --> 03:46:52.520
md as was so much noisier than the comedy club.

2516
03:46:53.239 --> 03:46:56.040
So during the break times it was quite easy to

2517
03:46:56.120 --> 03:47:01.440
collect glasses because other thing, you don't have break times

2518
03:47:01.479 --> 03:47:04.479
in a nightclub dere where all the lights come on

2519
03:47:04.600 --> 03:47:06.559
and you can kind of just have a look around.

2520
03:47:08.760 --> 03:47:13.600
Where do I leave that banana? You know? So I

2521
03:47:14.879 --> 03:47:19.879
think that sometimes the nightclub, if you got busy and

2522
03:47:20.120 --> 03:47:22.319
they didn't have a chance to collect the glasses and

2523
03:47:22.879 --> 03:47:26.000
they were running out of glasses, then what they would

2524
03:47:26.040 --> 03:47:32.639
do is they'd send a member of staff downstairs and

2525
03:47:32.879 --> 03:47:38.079
ask them to go and collect some glasses, maybe a

2526
03:47:38.159 --> 03:47:43.159
box of glasses, and bring them back up again. Or

2527
03:47:43.239 --> 03:47:45.959
perhaps what they'd do is just send a message down

2528
03:47:46.000 --> 03:47:50.920
because they had a walkie talkie system where they could communicate.

2529
03:47:52.360 --> 03:47:54.399
I don't know why I'm mentioned in the word communicate,

2530
03:47:54.440 --> 03:47:58.000
because that is most people know what walkie talkie is.

2531
03:47:59.040 --> 03:48:02.840
It's for communication, isn't it. It's not for whiskey and eggs,

2532
03:48:03.200 --> 03:48:15.040
you know, it's and yeah, so let's sometimes I do that.

2533
03:48:16.319 --> 03:48:20.120
That's what that bar is. The nightclub itself. All the

2534
03:48:20.680 --> 03:48:28.120
lights seemed to be working. The entrance to the bar

2535
03:48:28.319 --> 03:48:31.159
were fine, seemed to be fine. All the lights were

2536
03:48:31.200 --> 03:48:36.040
on there. I went outside the club because it was

2537
03:48:36.120 --> 03:48:39.799
all very bright, so I just checked the lights there.

2538
03:48:42.719 --> 03:48:43.239
And it was.

2539
03:48:45.520 --> 03:48:51.159
Very colorful. They did get quite a lot of walking

2540
03:48:51.319 --> 03:48:55.920
by traffic or foot traffic, and they call it, but

2541
03:48:56.040 --> 03:48:59.000
not in the early days. In the early days, it

2542
03:48:59.079 --> 03:49:03.840
was just an alleyway full of mills and full of

2543
03:49:05.799 --> 03:49:09.239
you know, it was an industrial area in East London,

2544
03:49:09.360 --> 03:49:13.840
in Shoreditch. It was not a nice place because it

2545
03:49:13.959 --> 03:49:19.559
was all pretty much derelict. When they first opened in

2546
03:49:19.879 --> 03:49:25.559
nineteen ninety. I rocked up in ninety one January and

2547
03:49:25.680 --> 03:49:30.360
they'd been there for I don't know, less than a year,

2548
03:49:30.440 --> 03:49:38.479
I think. And I remember walking home from there and

2549
03:49:38.520 --> 03:49:41.399
there was no one around. He'd walk there and there'd

2550
03:49:41.440 --> 03:49:48.840
be no one around. There's nothing, no, just nothing. It's

2551
03:49:48.959 --> 03:49:53.040
not nothing, and there's nothing around, nothing there. And then

2552
03:49:53.360 --> 03:49:58.280
as time went by it just started to build up.

2553
03:49:59.680 --> 03:50:00.120
The a.

2554
03:50:02.280 --> 03:50:07.719
Cafe opened opposite, a newsagent opened, because it was literally

2555
03:50:08.000 --> 03:50:13.000
just up the road from the city center. So it's

2556
03:50:13.000 --> 03:50:21.399
around the corner from Old Street Tube station. And if

2557
03:50:21.440 --> 03:50:24.319
you turn and right, so you come out the club,

2558
03:50:24.399 --> 03:50:27.639
you turn right, go to the end of the road,

2559
03:50:28.760 --> 03:50:32.840
turn right again and just keep walking. That leads you

2560
03:50:32.920 --> 03:50:37.799
to Liverpool Street. But if you come out of the club,

2561
03:50:37.879 --> 03:50:42.079
turn left or keep walking, keep walking, keep walking. It's

2562
03:50:42.159 --> 03:50:46.319
quite quite a few It's one road, but it was

2563
03:50:46.399 --> 03:50:50.319
broken up into think three or four different bits, and

2564
03:50:50.479 --> 03:50:57.159
that's Old Street and then Liverpool Street Station. As you

2565
03:50:57.239 --> 03:51:04.440
walk down there, the last section of roads once she

2566
03:51:04.520 --> 03:51:08.680
a crossed the road, that last section is all city.

2567
03:51:08.840 --> 03:51:13.600
It's all mass, big buildings and it's like financial stuff

2568
03:51:13.639 --> 03:51:19.079
and I guess I don't know, banks, maybe and the

2569
03:51:19.200 --> 03:51:24.319
train station, and opposite Liverpool Street Station is the police station.

2570
03:51:28.239 --> 03:51:33.040
I think there's a news agents there as well, and

2571
03:51:33.159 --> 03:51:38.559
there's a restaurant cafe thing and I'm not sure call

2572
03:51:38.639 --> 03:51:47.319
what to call it. It's being there forever and they

2573
03:51:47.440 --> 03:51:49.879
get a lot of traffic, a lot of people going

2574
03:51:49.959 --> 03:51:56.000
in there. I mean, they're they're exactly opposite the entrance

2575
03:51:56.399 --> 03:52:00.479
and the exit to Liverpool Street Station. One of the

2576
03:52:00.600 --> 03:52:06.879
busiest train stations. I'd say possibly even in the world.

2577
03:52:07.200 --> 03:52:10.680
It's like very busy, just due to the fact that

2578
03:52:11.239 --> 03:52:15.719
where it's stationed, where it's stationed, where the station is stationed,

2579
03:52:16.920 --> 03:52:18.959
they get a lot of people go through there every day.

2580
03:52:20.520 --> 03:52:26.600
So to imagine having a place where you can buy sausage,

2581
03:52:26.680 --> 03:52:34.280
sandwiches and cups of coffee and stuff like that, it's

2582
03:52:34.360 --> 03:52:37.639
sort of golden mine, isn't it. I mean, probably a

2583
03:52:37.680 --> 03:52:43.639
little bit less so now with the advent of Costa

2584
03:52:44.440 --> 03:52:48.639
Coffee and Nero and stuff like that in recent years.

2585
03:52:49.879 --> 03:52:53.520
By recent years, I made the last four decades probably,

2586
03:52:54.200 --> 03:52:59.719
but there's quite a few of those dotted around I

2587
03:52:59.760 --> 03:53:07.360
think inside and outside of Liverpool Street Station. Costas Costa Coffee,

2588
03:53:13.760 --> 03:53:16.319
but the news agents, that's quite a good thing to have.

2589
03:53:16.639 --> 03:53:23.040
They must get so much business. It's almost like a

2590
03:53:23.200 --> 03:53:31.840
perfect situation because the first of all, you've got traffic technically,

2591
03:53:33.239 --> 03:53:36.239
like let's say the cafe from all over the world.

2592
03:53:37.280 --> 03:53:40.760
We've got people from all over the world coming into eat.

2593
03:53:43.159 --> 03:53:46.600
It wasn't a big place ever, but a lot of

2594
03:53:46.639 --> 03:53:49.120
people come and get the takeaways. You know, they can't

2595
03:53:49.159 --> 03:53:54.079
get their sandwiches or whatever for their breakfast or whatever

2596
03:53:54.200 --> 03:54:04.799
for going to work or on the way home. So

2597
03:54:05.000 --> 03:54:09.879
not only is it is there, you've got people, You've

2598
03:54:09.920 --> 03:54:14.319
got the regulars who work in the city coming in

2599
03:54:15.120 --> 03:54:19.680
in the morning, maybe buying coffee. I mean they might

2600
03:54:19.799 --> 03:54:23.040
not buy coffee anymore so much, but it's still going

2601
03:54:23.079 --> 03:54:26.399
to be cheaper than cost us because cost the coffee.

2602
03:54:26.719 --> 03:54:29.239
Though I don't think it's like hugely expensive, it's still

2603
03:54:31.559 --> 03:54:34.399
it's about time, isn't it. Because if if you're going

2604
03:54:34.440 --> 03:54:36.440
to go and queue up to get your cost of coffee,

2605
03:54:36.879 --> 03:54:38.799
bias is not an advert for cost of by it,

2606
03:54:39.319 --> 03:54:41.159
it's just I'll be living out a cost of coffee

2607
03:54:41.280 --> 03:54:46.239
for two weeks. I actually had a coffee the other day.

2608
03:54:47.319 --> 03:54:49.079
You might be thinking why do you keep going in there?

2609
03:54:49.120 --> 03:54:51.360
Then if you're not going to if you're not buying coffee,

2610
03:54:53.920 --> 03:54:58.319
I just I like the deck or no, I was gonna,

2611
03:54:58.959 --> 03:55:03.680
I don't. I've been getting sandwiches, drinks other black cold drinks.

2612
03:55:03.680 --> 03:55:07.680
I didn't want a hot drink in this weather. Cold drinks,

2613
03:55:08.120 --> 03:55:14.440
and maybe a little packet of biscuits and these little

2614
03:55:14.559 --> 03:55:19.520
cheese toasties have been having over the last couple of weeks.

2615
03:55:21.719 --> 03:55:32.680
And the other day, I don't know which day it

2616
03:55:33.120 --> 03:55:38.479
might have been Friday, I think it was. It might

2617
03:55:38.520 --> 03:55:42.799
have been Saturday, but I think it was Friday. But

2618
03:55:42.920 --> 03:55:48.079
then again, it might have been Thursday, because I'm losing

2619
03:55:48.159 --> 03:55:56.159
track of the days. I've got a coffee for him,

2620
03:55:57.040 --> 03:55:59.879
I've got sausages, and I've got sausage and letting it.

2621
03:56:00.319 --> 03:56:03.479
I got a coffee for me, sausages for me. I

2622
03:56:03.559 --> 03:56:05.879
do get a sausage roll the other day, but there

2623
03:56:05.920 --> 03:56:09.760
was a sausage in a roll as opposed to a

2624
03:56:09.799 --> 03:56:15.479
sausage roll, and I didn't end up eating it because

2625
03:56:15.520 --> 03:56:19.200
I brought it home. I was was hungry but at

2626
03:56:19.239 --> 03:56:21.399
the same time and I just wanted to get back,

2627
03:56:22.280 --> 03:56:27.200
so I bought that, but I didn't I didn't end

2628
03:56:27.319 --> 03:56:30.280
up eating it, so I gave it to Vinnie and

2629
03:56:30.399 --> 03:56:44.239
he ate the sausages. What we did on Saturday, Yeah,

2630
03:56:44.440 --> 03:56:48.200
it was yesterday. It seems like days ago. I think

2631
03:56:48.239 --> 03:56:54.000
it was yesterday. We went me and uncle sausages, went

2632
03:56:54.120 --> 03:56:55.479
down to.

2633
03:57:00.280 --> 03:57:00.719
Costa.

2634
03:57:00.920 --> 03:57:03.680
Oh yeah, that's it because the local Costa to where

2635
03:57:03.719 --> 03:57:08.239
he stays. He's coming hotel room in what's it a

2636
03:57:08.360 --> 03:57:12.000
hospital that because there's two costs and one is close

2637
03:57:12.079 --> 03:57:14.879
at the weekends. It's just a small one. You can't

2638
03:57:14.959 --> 03:57:17.559
sit in there. You can, you'd have to sit on

2639
03:57:17.639 --> 03:57:24.879
the floor and it's frowned upon. So that's not open

2640
03:57:25.040 --> 03:57:30.399
at the weekend, but the large one is and it's

2641
03:57:30.559 --> 03:57:35.760
seating for I don't know. I feel I've almost got

2642
03:57:35.840 --> 03:57:48.920
the map in my head. One two three, one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.

2643
03:57:49.399 --> 03:57:57.360
There's sixteen probably i'd say about fifty people, maybe a

2644
03:57:57.399 --> 03:58:04.000
little bit more. It's quite space. Most people just ordered

2645
03:58:04.040 --> 03:58:06.559
to take out. And I think part of day is

2646
03:58:06.719 --> 03:58:10.520
because of the weather, because there's a lot of people

2647
03:58:10.680 --> 03:58:18.479
sitting outside who I imagine wouldn't be sitting outside if

2648
03:58:19.159 --> 03:58:25.479
it wasn't warm. But then there's a lot of staff

2649
03:58:26.559 --> 03:58:30.200
sitting outside as well, so they would probably still be

2650
03:58:30.479 --> 03:58:40.600
ordering food and coffees and stuff like that. Maybe they'd

2651
03:58:40.680 --> 03:58:43.000
be sitting in if they didn't have anywhere to go,

2652
03:58:43.639 --> 03:58:46.479
so they might be sitting in the restaurant. Bit I

2653
03:58:46.639 --> 03:58:50.440
say restaurant, but you know, I don't know if we

2654
03:58:50.760 --> 03:58:56.680
do really need to call every seating place where you

2655
03:58:56.840 --> 03:59:03.159
eat a restaurant. I think it did means restaurants a

2656
03:59:03.239 --> 03:59:15.600
little bit. Almost devalues restaurants because you've got someone they

2657
03:59:17.159 --> 03:59:23.200
it's their life's ambition to opener a doughnut, a donut

2658
03:59:23.239 --> 03:59:28.120
and tomato restaurant or donut omelet restaurant, you know, and

2659
03:59:28.239 --> 03:59:35.879
that's their specialty, doughnut omelets, and you know, they put

2660
03:59:35.920 --> 03:59:42.319
everything into it, Paul, their life savings, and they've got

2661
03:59:42.360 --> 03:59:45.799
this nice little place, and they found somewhere that's almost

2662
03:59:45.879 --> 03:59:52.319
shaped like a donut and an omelet, and they've got

2663
03:59:52.399 --> 03:59:55.680
the older, they've got the logo, which is basically a

2664
03:59:55.840 --> 04:00:01.319
donut with an egg sticking in it. It's like perfect.

2665
04:00:01.440 --> 04:00:13.440
Everything's really good and they, you know, they go to

2666
04:00:13.559 --> 04:00:18.959
work with pride that built up this business. And maybe

2667
04:00:20.159 --> 04:00:22.280
it was a new thing at the time and everyone

2668
04:00:22.520 --> 04:00:30.639
some people thought, uh omelets with doughnuts on that's just weird.

2669
04:00:32.399 --> 04:00:35.639
But then you know, over time people got accustomed to

2670
04:00:35.760 --> 04:00:41.360
it and they're not really happy, and they've got maybe

2671
04:00:41.360 --> 04:00:45.479
they've got a restaurant review in the local paper and

2672
04:00:46.040 --> 04:00:51.799
you know, things are going good and perhaps they decided

2673
04:00:51.840 --> 04:00:57.680
to go out and someone says, oh, well no, maybe

2674
04:00:57.719 --> 04:01:00.680
they get a review. And the person and says, oh,

2675
04:01:01.239 --> 04:01:04.040
I'd like to do a review as well, and he says, oh,

2676
04:01:04.399 --> 04:01:07.920
who are you so I do refuse her restaurants. It's

2677
04:01:07.959 --> 04:01:11.799
a it's a local magazine and it's basically just for

2678
04:01:12.280 --> 04:01:15.879
you know, this would be perfect and oh.

2679
04:01:16.200 --> 04:01:20.719
Really he said, yeah really, Oh that's exciting.

2680
04:01:21.159 --> 04:01:21.760
Oh isn't it?

2681
04:01:21.959 --> 04:01:22.200
Yeah?

2682
04:01:22.319 --> 04:01:29.239
He is exciting, isn't it mm? And eventually they stopped

2683
04:01:29.280 --> 04:01:32.200
making noises at each other and one of them says,

2684
04:01:32.280 --> 04:01:37.159
so can us take some pictures? Shall I? And the

2685
04:01:38.319 --> 04:01:40.440
other bloke says no, Well I'm the one doing a review.

2686
04:01:40.479 --> 04:01:43.399
Perhaps I should take the pictures. So the restaurant owner

2687
04:01:43.440 --> 04:01:48.719
says okay then, and you know, they both have a

2688
04:01:48.799 --> 04:01:53.600
cuddle and he's so excited his restaurant's going to be

2689
04:01:54.399 --> 04:01:56.440
in a review in a magazine.

2690
04:01:57.479 --> 04:01:57.559
And.

2691
04:02:01.920 --> 04:02:04.040
You know, he says, well, how am I going to

2692
04:02:04.079 --> 04:02:07.040
see this? Magazine because I don't know where it is.

2693
04:02:07.159 --> 04:02:11.600
It's because it especially this magazine. And the bloke said, well,

2694
04:02:11.760 --> 04:02:14.920
i'll send it to you. It's such a good time here,

2695
04:02:15.559 --> 04:02:19.959
it's been wonderful. I'll send you the magazine. And then

2696
04:02:20.000 --> 04:02:22.879
he sends in the magazine in the post. You know,

2697
04:02:23.000 --> 04:02:26.600
the restaurant owners all excited. All the magazine's coming through. Soon,

2698
04:02:27.239 --> 04:02:30.040
the magazine and it looks through it. He gets it

2699
04:02:30.159 --> 04:02:33.440
and it's like, it's not on the front cover. Okay,

2700
04:02:33.520 --> 04:02:36.760
it's fair enough. It is the first first magazine with

2701
04:02:36.879 --> 04:02:39.000
you don't expect to be on a front cover. But

2702
04:02:39.559 --> 04:02:43.079
there's a mention, a little mention in the in the

2703
04:02:43.159 --> 04:02:46.239
corner of the right hand side, would you eat here?

2704
04:02:47.040 --> 04:02:50.959
Question mark? Question mark? Question mark? And he thought, oh,

2705
04:02:52.319 --> 04:02:58.040
I hope that's us. And he gets there and he

2706
04:02:58.159 --> 04:03:04.200
sees that there's not just his review on him, but

2707
04:03:04.280 --> 04:03:10.399
he noticed that there's reviews for he can't even say

2708
04:03:10.399 --> 04:03:16.200
it out loud, a burger chain.

2709
04:03:18.479 --> 04:03:20.000
I mean it's an American burger chain.

2710
04:03:20.159 --> 04:03:23.440
Is not as well known in the UK as it

2711
04:03:24.600 --> 04:03:28.719
probably will be, but it's nevertheless a review on a

2712
04:03:28.840 --> 04:03:33.360
new burger chain that's popular in America, and it's the

2713
04:03:33.520 --> 04:03:38.440
first one to be in that area. So this restaurant owner,

2714
04:03:40.040 --> 04:03:45.680
it's furious because he doesn't class that has been a

2715
04:03:45.760 --> 04:03:49.280
restaurant someone where you can buy a burger and chips

2716
04:03:49.399 --> 04:03:52.200
or fries or whatever and sit down and eat it.

2717
04:03:53.159 --> 04:04:01.440
That is not a restaurant experience. I mean, ultimately, if

2718
04:04:01.479 --> 04:04:05.159
you're going to have his opinion on mine, his opinion

2719
04:04:05.479 --> 04:04:08.159
is if you're going to a restaurant, is somewhere that

2720
04:04:08.239 --> 04:04:13.239
you sit down. Maybe you have a bit of lift

2721
04:04:13.440 --> 04:04:17.879
music that's nice, you know, elevator music, having piping, have

2722
04:04:18.000 --> 04:04:21.799
it piping out, and maybe have speakers underneath each chair

2723
04:04:23.280 --> 04:04:32.799
for the ambience. And it's important if you have really

2724
04:04:32.879 --> 04:04:36.799
really tall chairs, because he said that there's something about

2725
04:04:36.879 --> 04:04:43.079
self esteem sometimes being waited on. People can I don't know.

2726
04:04:43.159 --> 04:04:47.280
It just seems a bit strange to English people. So

2727
04:04:47.399 --> 04:04:50.120
what he thought he would do is to have this big,

2728
04:04:50.520 --> 04:04:53.799
big chairs which you had to climb up like a

2729
04:04:53.799 --> 04:04:57.319
little ladder. You had to climb up and climb on,

2730
04:04:57.959 --> 04:05:00.200
and you'd have to tie yourself in because he in

2731
04:05:00.280 --> 04:05:04.040
safety that he found that out the wrong way, so

2732
04:05:04.319 --> 04:05:05.360
a little seat belt.

2733
04:05:06.719 --> 04:05:09.799
And I mean.

2734
04:05:11.520 --> 04:05:15.000
They were to start with the health and safety were

2735
04:05:15.120 --> 04:05:18.600
considering little parachutes as well, but didn't didn't make him

2736
04:05:18.680 --> 04:05:21.120
do that as long as he had a nice spongy

2737
04:05:21.200 --> 04:05:23.159
floor covered in.

2738
04:05:25.479 --> 04:05:25.520
It.

2739
04:05:26.159 --> 04:05:30.399
I said. It wasn't really spongy. It's more trampolini, really,

2740
04:05:31.399 --> 04:05:34.840
but it seems to do the job, especially the good

2741
04:05:34.879 --> 04:05:37.159
thing about it. A good thing about having a trampoline

2742
04:05:37.159 --> 04:05:39.200
on a floor in a restaurant is if you drop

2743
04:05:39.280 --> 04:05:42.760
your food, you can catch it again. So that's quite

2744
04:05:42.799 --> 04:05:46.639
good if you drop your pie or whatever it is

2745
04:05:47.520 --> 04:05:54.079
you drink. So so he wanted something a bit more

2746
04:05:54.319 --> 04:05:58.479
traditional like that, like a big long tape, big long chairs.

2747
04:06:00.239 --> 04:06:12.799
Music ambient, not necessarily lift or you know, elevator music,

2748
04:06:13.879 --> 04:06:16.399
maybe just you know, music you listen to when you're

2749
04:06:16.440 --> 04:06:20.719
on hold. I love that music, you know, when you're

2750
04:06:20.760 --> 04:06:25.360
on hold to a big company and maybe it could

2751
04:06:25.360 --> 04:06:30.440
be a bank, or it could be electric gas company

2752
04:06:31.079 --> 04:06:32.680
and they put you on hold and you get some

2753
04:06:33.319 --> 04:06:39.000
do that music. Sometimes I just phone up just to

2754
04:06:39.079 --> 04:06:43.920
have nice listen, so relaxing, I get it. Really, it

2755
04:06:44.280 --> 04:06:47.079
jolts me when they answer the phone. Eventually I have

2756
04:06:47.200 --> 04:06:48.959
to hang up again and go back at the back

2757
04:06:49.040 --> 04:06:53.159
of the queue, you know. But it's a weird conversation though,

2758
04:06:53.200 --> 04:06:55.959
for some reason because when they do come through. So hello,

2759
04:06:56.079 --> 04:06:59.399
how can I help? I'm just listening to here for

2760
04:06:59.479 --> 04:07:03.840
the music. Excuse me, I'm just just listening to the music.

2761
04:07:05.520 --> 04:07:09.440
What do you mean you're listening to the music. I

2762
04:07:09.520 --> 04:07:12.760
don't know how else to say it. Really, I was

2763
04:07:12.879 --> 04:07:17.680
listening to the music. There's no other way to say it.

2764
04:07:19.399 --> 04:07:21.719
I can't dress it up in a different way. That's

2765
04:07:21.760 --> 04:07:24.040
what I was doing. I was listening to the music.

2766
04:07:25.040 --> 04:07:30.799
Your music, our music. Well, I don't mean, I don't

2767
04:07:30.840 --> 04:07:34.559
imagine you actually wrote the music. I mean, I'm sure

2768
04:07:34.600 --> 04:07:39.200
you're not just standing there playing a piano and someone's

2769
04:07:39.280 --> 04:07:44.239
with you with violin all day. It's The lady said,

2770
04:07:44.280 --> 04:07:49.120
that's true. They're only coming for about two hours a day.

2771
04:07:49.719 --> 04:07:51.040
The rest of the time they just have it on

2772
04:07:51.159 --> 04:07:53.520
the loop, So have a life for two hours a day.

2773
04:07:55.040 --> 04:08:00.239
And he said really, She said no, Oh, was it

2774
04:08:00.319 --> 04:08:00.680
a joke?

2775
04:08:00.879 --> 04:08:01.520
She said yeah.

2776
04:08:04.520 --> 04:08:07.360
He said, you know, the problem with jokes is if

2777
04:08:07.399 --> 04:08:11.079
you have to tell the person it's a joke. That

2778
04:08:11.760 --> 04:08:16.639
gate's really really banging, isn't it. I've got a little

2779
04:08:16.680 --> 04:08:20.879
solution for that. And the lady on the phone said,

2780
04:08:20.879 --> 04:08:24.920
what are you talking about? A gate? And he said

2781
04:08:24.959 --> 04:08:29.319
to her, No, that was that was Jason talking. Gets

2782
04:08:29.399 --> 04:08:32.840
confused in it's just one voice who's talking. I don't know.

2783
04:08:35.879 --> 04:08:36.600
I'm not sure.

2784
04:08:37.319 --> 04:08:38.120
I'm not sure.

2785
04:08:41.559 --> 04:08:47.680
So that was his idea. He was, just like a

2786
04:08:47.799 --> 04:08:53.959
proper restaurant. Is that just going and buying some fish

2787
04:08:54.000 --> 04:08:58.040
and chips or a kebab and sit down on a

2788
04:08:58.200 --> 04:09:03.479
chair does not make something a restaurant. He had a

2789
04:09:03.559 --> 04:09:11.600
bit of a bad attitude really sometimes. So I went

2790
04:09:11.959 --> 04:09:22.479
upstairs to the office all the rooms because there was

2791
04:09:24.440 --> 04:09:31.280
there was a little kitchen a area, there was a

2792
04:09:31.399 --> 04:09:36.840
ladded to the roof, and then there was the actual office,

2793
04:09:37.000 --> 04:09:39.879
and there was a toilet as well, and all the

2794
04:09:40.000 --> 04:09:44.319
lights were everywhere, all working. And that was the last

2795
04:09:44.399 --> 04:09:46.280
place I kind of looked. I looked everywhere else in

2796
04:09:46.360 --> 04:09:51.959
the in the club. So my boss was sitting at

2797
04:09:52.000 --> 04:09:54.959
his desk. He says, you all right, I said yeah,

2798
04:09:55.760 --> 04:10:00.680
He said, you look you look confused, You look worried. Said, oh, no,

2799
04:10:00.799 --> 04:10:03.200
it's just you asked me to do something earlier, and

2800
04:10:03.319 --> 04:10:10.639
I'm just struggling. He said, well, when he's senior once,

2801
04:10:10.760 --> 04:10:15.239
I just just ask you to make sure the lights

2802
04:10:15.239 --> 04:10:17.600
are running the bathroom or the lights are work in

2803
04:10:17.680 --> 04:10:23.319
the bathroom, said I can't find the bathroom. Where's the bathroom?

2804
04:10:23.360 --> 04:10:24.159
Where do you hide it?

2805
04:10:29.000 --> 04:10:29.239
Yeah?

2806
04:10:30.680 --> 04:10:33.040
It didn't last much longer in that job for some reason,

2807
04:10:36.079 --> 04:10:39.159
so I still don't know. It's like this kind of

2808
04:10:39.399 --> 04:10:45.719
it's like Narnia that Americans have got this place called

2809
04:10:45.760 --> 04:10:50.000
the bathroom, but I can never find it, whether it's

2810
04:10:50.040 --> 04:10:54.479
in a restaurant, whether it's a shopping center, whether it's

2811
04:10:54.639 --> 04:10:58.879
an airport. Whenever I hear someone saying, if you got

2812
04:10:58.959 --> 04:11:02.000
to bear from toe the beer room is, that's not

2813
04:11:02.159 --> 04:11:04.159
very good accent, But can you tell me where the

2814
04:11:04.200 --> 04:11:07.520
bathroom is? And that wasn't a very good accent either,

2815
04:11:07.680 --> 04:11:08.319
was it really?

2816
04:11:09.239 --> 04:11:09.280
Not?

2817
04:11:09.680 --> 04:11:18.680
Really? I say, oh, because they'd asked me, if can

2818
04:11:18.719 --> 04:11:21.280
you tell me where the bathroom is? I said, yes,

2819
04:11:21.280 --> 04:11:23.600
it's the top of my stairs. If you come in

2820
04:11:23.639 --> 04:11:25.479
the front door of the top goes straight up, and

2821
04:11:25.520 --> 04:11:30.799
that's where the bathroom is. They didn't I didn't realize

2822
04:11:30.799 --> 04:11:34.959
they didn't want to know where my bathroom was. And

2823
04:11:35.040 --> 04:11:37.479
then I said, so, where's your bathroom? Because I thought

2824
04:11:37.520 --> 04:11:43.000
that's what the conversation was about bathrooms? Because I read

2825
04:11:43.079 --> 04:11:46.959
somewhere that if you're showing interest in another person, it's

2826
04:11:47.040 --> 04:11:52.879
good for report and if they asked you a question,

2827
04:11:53.079 --> 04:11:58.120
then fake being interested, and then that's what it is.

2828
04:11:58.559 --> 04:12:03.280
Pretend to be interested in them by asking them questions

2829
04:12:03.760 --> 04:12:08.959
would show to them that you really really mean and

2830
04:12:09.120 --> 04:12:14.000
you genuinely are interested even though you're not. So that's

2831
04:12:14.040 --> 04:12:18.760
why I did. I just used to kind of copy

2832
04:12:18.879 --> 04:12:26.680
the question and boomerang it back. Technically boomerang. You can't

2833
04:12:26.719 --> 04:12:29.959
boomerang something back, can you, because they come back to me?

2834
04:12:30.040 --> 04:12:36.399
Wouldn't it? Do boomerangs actually work? I've never seen a

2835
04:12:36.440 --> 04:12:37.879
boomerang work in action.

2836
04:12:42.360 --> 04:12:42.719
Anyone.

2837
04:12:44.760 --> 04:12:49.719
So, yeah, we don't really have air conditioning the hair

2838
04:12:50.000 --> 04:12:54.719
in homes. You can get air conditioning units that you

2839
04:12:54.799 --> 04:13:00.559
can buy. I don't have one myself, and you can

2840
04:13:00.639 --> 04:13:08.639
buy things like fans. People have fans. Fans is that's

2841
04:13:08.879 --> 04:13:14.680
generally the solution in this country. Just a general fan

2842
04:13:14.799 --> 04:13:18.159
that maybe moves around a bit, go some side to

2843
04:13:18.319 --> 04:13:25.799
side and can blow some cool air. That's kind of

2844
04:13:26.000 --> 04:13:31.120
that's really it. Air conditioning not so much. You can't

2845
04:13:31.159 --> 04:13:35.840
get air conditioning units that you can stick like the

2846
04:13:36.520 --> 04:13:40.319
tube outside of the window and have the fan on

2847
04:13:40.520 --> 04:13:47.799
and it kind of helped the air. But generally I've

2848
04:13:47.879 --> 04:13:53.159
only seen those in action probably three times, once twice

2849
04:13:53.239 --> 04:13:57.079
in two offices I worked in, and once in the hospital.

2850
04:13:57.920 --> 04:14:01.559
Outside of that, I haven't really seen that very often.

2851
04:14:04.760 --> 04:14:08.079
I mean, in Thailand, all the hotels have got air

2852
04:14:08.120 --> 04:14:15.479
conditioning as standard because of the natural weather. But here,

2853
04:14:15.639 --> 04:14:21.799
our natural weather is in the summer, I can't imagine it.

2854
04:14:21.920 --> 04:14:26.000
It's much more than twenty twenty degrees in the summer

2855
04:14:26.559 --> 04:14:34.440
averaged out. We get some like twenty six days. Sometimes

2856
04:14:34.479 --> 04:14:37.399
it's over thirty, but it's rare. It's rare to be

2857
04:14:37.479 --> 04:14:44.159
over thirty. But at the same time, we don't get

2858
04:14:44.200 --> 04:14:49.879
particularly cold weather's in England anyway. We get cold days,

2859
04:14:49.920 --> 04:14:53.719
but they're not like a cold day here is maybe

2860
04:14:53.840 --> 04:14:57.559
minus five. That's like probably as cold as it's going

2861
04:14:57.639 --> 04:15:04.760
to get. I mean, that is cold, but generally in

2862
04:15:04.840 --> 04:15:14.000
the winter, unless it's icy, it's usually above above zero.

2863
04:15:19.879 --> 04:15:23.920
But we don't end up with like minus forty like

2864
04:15:24.120 --> 04:15:28.760
in Russia or New York. They're the only two places

2865
04:15:28.840 --> 04:15:32.879
I am I know that go really really or Canada

2866
04:15:32.959 --> 04:15:39.280
as well. Lots of countries get really colder in the winter.

2867
04:15:39.879 --> 04:15:43.719
We don't really get that, but it doesn't stop us

2868
04:15:43.799 --> 04:15:48.280
moaning about the weather because that is our given right.

2869
04:15:48.520 --> 04:16:00.479
It's our hereditary, hereditary, heditory heredity ancestry. That's what we do.

2870
04:16:00.680 --> 04:16:08.000
That's what I mean. Tammy asks, do I have any tattoos?

2871
04:16:09.319 --> 04:16:11.680
I do? I do? I do? I do I do?

2872
04:16:12.719 --> 04:16:15.040
On my right arm, I've got a tote of a

2873
04:16:18.120 --> 04:16:20.079
I don't know what it is. I just tell people

2874
04:16:20.159 --> 04:16:28.840
it was my mum or my girlfriend. Sometimes it's it's

2875
04:16:28.920 --> 04:16:32.319
just basically like a dragon head, you know, like a

2876
04:16:32.440 --> 04:16:37.840
Chinese dragon in those parades, you know, thanks one of

2877
04:16:37.920 --> 04:16:41.959
those things. But now I can hardly see what it

2878
04:16:42.079 --> 04:16:44.959
is because it's so faded. God, it done when I

2879
04:16:45.079 --> 04:16:52.479
was sixteen, so it's nearly forty years ago. I can't

2880
04:16:52.520 --> 04:16:56.879
believe my right that arm is. That arm is nearly

2881
04:16:57.000 --> 04:17:04.079
fifty five years old. Okay, still works fifty five years old.

2882
04:17:04.760 --> 04:17:07.440
BlimE me, wh would have thought it?

2883
04:17:07.840 --> 04:17:07.879
He?

2884
04:17:09.159 --> 04:17:13.319
Who would have thought it? Can I please go back

2885
04:17:13.360 --> 04:17:18.120
to nineteen ninety two and be young and fruity again.

2886
04:17:23.360 --> 04:17:32.040
I got no other tattoos, though I did think about. Yeah,

2887
04:17:32.079 --> 04:17:35.399
I thought about getting some. Bit every time I thought

2888
04:17:35.440 --> 04:17:39.760
about getting one, it was rude and I ended up not.

2889
04:17:41.879 --> 04:17:44.040
You know, it's like, you know, tattoo on your back

2890
04:17:44.120 --> 04:17:47.079
with a little arrow going down or things like that,

2891
04:17:47.280 --> 04:17:56.680
you know, just it's just I don't know, just just

2892
04:17:56.920 --> 04:18:01.959
like just cheeky stuff. I thought about getting something on me,

2893
04:18:03.040 --> 04:18:03.479
what's it.

2894
04:18:05.079 --> 04:18:05.479
Against?

2895
04:18:05.479 --> 04:18:06.159
Something written on me?

2896
04:18:06.239 --> 04:18:06.559
What's it?

2897
04:18:07.319 --> 04:18:16.559
The tattoo there on me? Old willy. I went to

2898
04:18:16.639 --> 04:18:23.719
a few different tattoo places, but they just they tried

2899
04:18:23.760 --> 04:18:26.159
and tried, but they couldn't find any tattoos small enough.

2900
04:18:27.639 --> 04:18:36.360
So I didn't bother brilliant or willy joke at my expense,

2901
04:18:36.600 --> 04:18:43.639
great brilliant. I thought about just having a word sorry

2902
04:18:43.760 --> 04:18:49.440
on it, sorry or sorry to disappoint you. But to

2903
04:18:49.520 --> 04:18:51.360
be fair, if I could, I could, if I could

2904
04:18:51.360 --> 04:18:54.360
fit the word, this is the sentence sorry to disappoint you,

2905
04:18:54.799 --> 04:18:56.319
they wouldn't be disappointed. Woul day.

2906
04:18:58.159 --> 04:18:58.319
Uh.

2907
04:19:04.600 --> 04:19:07.319
I do believe this is probably the end of the recording.

2908
04:19:08.159 --> 04:19:09.840
I may have gone on a little bit, and this

2909
04:19:10.120 --> 04:19:16.200
may have been the very much the longest let me

2910
04:19:16.280 --> 04:19:21.920
boy to sleep recording I've ever done, ever, ever, ever,

2911
04:19:22.040 --> 04:19:34.280
ever ever. That's so I'm going to go. Thank you

2912
04:19:34.559 --> 04:19:38.000
for listening. Remember to be kind to yourself, because you

2913
04:19:38.120 --> 04:19:41.600
do deserve to be happy and be gentle with yourself.

2914
04:19:43.040 --> 04:19:50.120
You deserve to feel safe. Lots of love, bye,