May 23, 2025

(music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1358 | 23rd May 2025

(music) Q&A Friday | LMBYTS #1358 | 23rd May 2025
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Hello, and welcome to Jasonnewland dot com. And this is

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Q and A Friday.

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Bla la la la la la lulu.

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Yeah, Hi, Hi, So my name is Adjason new Land.

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Please only listen when you can safely close your eyes.

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Right.

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It's one fifty five pm in the afternoon on Friday,

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the twenty third of Moy two thousand and five, No,

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two thousand and fifth, twenty twenty five. Wow, So nineteen

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ninety five O five, fifty thirty years ago, and now

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I'm just thinking it's weird. I've got these memories of

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stuff that happened thirty years ago, and I'm just like,

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how can it really be thirty years ago? Right? So

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it's Q and A Friday. It's all right. Outside, it's

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it's a bit. It's kind of glum and bright, a

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little bit of both today out there. It's not cold,

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it's yeah, there was a lot of activity. It disbuilded

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last night, a lot of door slamming, like you know,

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till early hours. I'm not quite sure what that was about,

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but I'm up here, so I didn't. I wasn't getting involved.

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I think it just might have just been a lot

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of a lot of traffic, perhaps maybe maybe a little

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bit of traffic. Oh that's nice sort of plane to

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come over while I'm doing this. How pleasant. So I've

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got a message here on my Facebook group or my

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Facebook group Jason Newlands Boring Group. You can find a

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link to that group by going to Jasonnewland dot com

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and it's literally right at the top. It's a banner

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at the top of the page. Join Jason Newland's boring

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group in click on that and it takes you straight there.

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I wonder what it is on the Facebook page, on

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the the on the phone. Yeah, they're both together as well,

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side by side, and I'll take you straight to the

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page and you can join. You can join. So I

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had a message from Claire Clara Claire. I'm not sure

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if I'm pronouncing that right. Clairakloa, who hope my name

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on your podcast. Thank you for the welcome. You're welcome.

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Thank you for welcoming the welcome. I did do a

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recording yesterday. It was number one thousand, three hundred and

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fifty seven. That's weird. Got a fly A fly. I

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don't know if it's the same fly. It must be

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a different fly. It's weird because I just had Vinnie

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on my not on my lap, but to the left

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of me, as I was sitting down with my feet

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up and I was watching a boxing YouTube channel, and

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then he was asleep, and suddenly he just reached up

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and snapped out a fly. It's like one of those

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movies with those plants that move really quick, except shape

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as Jack Russell. He's been a bit weird today, no

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more weird than any other time, a bit stroge. So

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what I'm going to do? Ah, I've got six. Nope,

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I haven't got There's a bird outside that goes like that.

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I hope that wasn't too loud. So I thought it

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was one of the neighbors. So he used to have

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a neighbor that lived over the fence that he used

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to squawk like a pigeon. But early in the morning.

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I'm talking like six in the morning, five six in

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the morning, four in the morning, it'd be like doing

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that noise. It was a bit of a a character,

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this one. He doesn't live around here anymore, but I

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remember once he was my neighbor who lived the other

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side of the built of the block where he lived.

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I knew him, and he was like he was a

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friend and He said he got woken up at about

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five in the morning someone was outside his bedroom window,

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bearing in mind he lived upstairs, okay, these were like

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studio apartments. He looked outside and it was the neighbor

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from downstairs on a ladder painting his window frame pink.

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No apparent reason, just decided it would be a good idea.

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That didn't end. Well, it's just that I don't think

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it was the choice of color. But you can't. First

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of all, these frames are not wooden, they're like double

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blazing frames, so it can't really be painting them, I

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don't think, and I'm not sure the counsel like that.

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Another thing he did is he would spend like he's

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got tight. He had a tighty little bit of grass

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in front or out the back, like a tiny little

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bit of grass that was kind of his little area.

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And I'm talking very small, very small little. If you

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think of the smallest garden, the half of it half that,

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you know, it's really tiny little. He would spend all

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day long mowing it. I mean you could literally probably

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cut it with scissors now scissors. In about half that

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time he was I don't know, it was just on

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pills and he'd be doing it all day had another

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one lived over there. These are people who live over

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the fence. It's a different world over there. This bloke,

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he doesn't live there anymore either. He used to have

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palettes delivered, wooden palettes, like from a lorrie. It'd have

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a big pile delivered, and it did this in the summer.

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I think. Yeah, so basically spend so this big, massive

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pile of palettes, wooden palettes. It's spend all day breaking

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them up with an axe, which was very noisy, as

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I'm sure you can imagine, all day long, and then

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the evening it'd have a bonfire. And that was his

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routine for the whole of the summer. So's noise all day,

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smoke all night. And bonfires, however lovely they may be,

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you know, are like a nice bonfire, but it's not great.

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I think bonfires are better in the winter because in

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the summer, I don't know about you, but I kind

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of liked to have my windows open. Probably need to

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have my windows open, like in the winter, in the

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in the evening, in the evening in the summer, and

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that's not ideal to have smoke coming in. But and

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it's a different kind of smoke, isn't it bonfire smoke?

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I remember I was at a bonfire, and it's a

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place that I lived. This is the Buddhist community, and

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it was this fire, and there was a big like

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meeting together and giving one I suppose, like a party

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kind of thing, as much of a party as Buddhists

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can do. And I didn't even notice it until the

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next day. Every item of clothing that I'd worn that

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evening stunk like really bad. But I didn't notice the

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smaller smoke when I was out there because I wasn't

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even you know, I was avoiding the smoke. I was

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just near the fire, but you know, I wouldn't like

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stand there or sit there and then smoke pumping into me. Yeah,

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but quite smelly.

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Yeah.

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I had some strange had a fantasist living over there

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as well, a different bloke. Gossip said all gossip, isn't

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it here? He was unusual character, he's I mean, he

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was in all the national papers. He was quite famous.

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I couldn't believe it, but I got one right of

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them actually, but it was just one day. I'll do it.

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I could write a book. My name is to say

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that I could write a Guinness Book of records of

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everything I've done, been through, And I'm thinking about ourself

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that I could write a book just about the neighbors.

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I'd have to be very careful of see not to

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name any of them. But I don't think you'd even

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believe even ten percent of what I've seen and heard

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and experienced since I've lived here, and not just here,

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but all the other places I've lived, all the different

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houses I've shared. Wow, Seriously, you'd think I was making

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it up, and I probably would be. That's the problem.

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So I've got Mike. These are the people that have

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left me questions for today. So the very beginning, I'm

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going to mention everyone's name, so you know that I

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have answered your question, maybe not very well, but I've

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at least attempted. So first of all was Mike. Then

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it's Ben, Cindy Hope, but I will mention Hope that

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she didn't actually ask the question, but it's part of

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the Cindy's question. And then Ali oh Hope, yep, Pope

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has got a difference. She's got a question as well.

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And Sandy, So Sandy Hope, Ali, Cindy, Ben, and Mike. Yeah.

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So it's one, two, three, four, five, six questions. And

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I hope that those who asked the questions, those you

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have asked the questions, and when you hear the answers,

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I hope it's it's everything you hoped it would be.

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I'm just I don't know what I'm going to say,

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because you know I don't always tell the truth. So

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I'll try a little bit. Okay. So Sebastian has mentioned

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b in another cover which he likes to do. I

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want to meet you at the beach tonight. What, as

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Sebastian wrote Jason. Maybe he even wants to go to

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a hotel room every hour. Sebastian sends me another message

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he loves going on his AI things and if he

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sees a picture that is he just if you can

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see a way to make fun of me, he does.

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Right here we go. Mike has asked, as I was

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falling asleep last night to the Schools episode Schools, I

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was at the boring, the boring Monday's boring thing. I

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think I was wondering how much you plan out what

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you're going to say? Do you develop an outline or

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do you just jump in and wing it? Does your

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mind ever go blank and you find yourself at a

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loss for words. Right, Well, with the I'll talk just

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about the let me buoy the sleep recordings because with

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the occasionally I will work out what I'm roughly going

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to say. With the if I do a hypnosis recording,

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although nine nine percent of all my hypnosis recordings that

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are being just me talking off the top of my head,

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and the only preparation would be maybe having a concept.

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So if it was a relaxation technique for example, and

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would say be involved a biscuits in, I don't know

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why it would involve a biscuit in. So I'm saying

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I want to have a biscuit in, and I'm gonna

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crumble up all the biscuits and just shake the biscuits

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and then make some holes in the biscuits in at

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the bottom and just shake them and watch those biscuit

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drops just filtered down, and as I as they fall

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to filtered down and fall out the bottom of the

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biscuits in, you know, you feel more relaxed and calmer

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something like that. It's just sounds rubbish. It sounds a

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bit crummy. Oh So with the let me boy to sleep,

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the most I do regarding preparation for most of them

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will be just to think about a subject. A lot

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of the times, when it comes to let's say Monday's

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boring objects, I don't know. Usually I don't know what

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I'm going to talk about until I start. I wasn't

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going to talk about I don't think I was even

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going to talk about schools when I first started that

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recording with the Trivia Tuesday, yeah, I do. That's much

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more planned as far as you know. Look up the

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trivia bits and yes, there's a little bit more planning

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than that. And with the Q and A Fridays, of course,

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I have the questions in front of me, so in

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a sense, you plan what I'm going to talk about.

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But outside of that, no, I don't know. So when

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I didn't, I had a little skip through the questions

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before I started this, but I got no idea what

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I'm going to say until I say it. With the

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School's episode, for example, I ended up talking about school,

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so I just went with it. I don't have any

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kind of outline or structure for what I'm going to

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talk about pretty much ever, other than when it's a

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if it's a trivia one, the structure is just reading

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out the trivia the trivia's while thinking about something to

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talk about, and then focused on that subject and finding

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the trivia bits of information and maybe commenting on it.

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So it's organized, but not really Q and A Friday.

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It's just.

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I just answer, just honestly ish if I can. But

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generally no, I don't. I don't have any idea what

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I'm going to talk about. I mean sometimes I don't.

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It's not that I my mind never really goes blank.

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It did. That is actually it's not totally true. I mean,

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I know I am my hero to a lot of

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you out there.

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Altogether, there's a hero if you look inside your pants, right,

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and I like, I quite like the idea that it is.

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I thought the way that the recording has come out

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that it would seem like they were just pretty much

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ad libs, because they are it's just me just talking.

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I didn't I didn't think they seemed very structured. I mean,

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a Q and A Friday is kind of structured in

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a sense of I'm just answering questions. So there is

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a degree of structure, and if I focus on let's say,

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a boring object, the only structure. Okay, there is a

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structure with that in the sense of I choose a subject.

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So let's say, if I choose mobile phones for an example,

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as a subject, I will have that little reminder in

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my head to bring the subject back mobile phones. So

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when I'm starting to talk about dolphins and you know,

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tree houses and stuff like that, then I realized, we've

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got to bring it back to mobile phones. So I

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managed to bring it back. I don't generally have that

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little voice in my head when I do just a

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general recording. And also even when I do the let's

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say a sleep normal sleep recording, if you want to

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call it hypnosis, a body scam, whatever. Even if I

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have an idea of something that I'm going to discuss,

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so maybe I decided I'm just going to focus on

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each part of the body and imagine the wind is

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just blowing through that part of the body. And then

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when I get to start the recording, I might change

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my mind and decide to say the word relax five

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times or something like that with each time, you know,

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whereas you focus on each part of the body or

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you know, So it's not I kind of wish I

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was more structured, but I think if I was more structured,

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i'd be I probably I've got more chance of being

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successful possibly if I was structured, But at the same time,

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I wouldn't be able to produce as many recordings as

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I do, because for me, structure reduces I'm not going

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to say reduces creativity, but quite for me it does

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a little bit. I like the idea of being able

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to not know what I'm going to say because it

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amuses me then and I'm kind of interested in what

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I'm going to say next because I never know what

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I'm going to, what subject I'm going to end up

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talking about, or what direction I'm going to traveling. I

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really don't know. Now. Occasionally it's not so much that

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I find myself a loss for words, but occasionally, and

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this is true, I'm telling you. This is Mike. I'm

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telling you this, Mike is very true. And I did

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one recently. I do. I do recording and I'm just

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in a rotten mood. But I didn't realize until I

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started the recording, and I have to stop occasionally. I've

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done the whole recording and just trashed it. The other

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day I started I think I was try to do

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a trivia Tuesday, and I I like, nah, I tried,

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I think four different attempts to try to do it,

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and it wasn't the right day. So yeah, I just

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had I abandoned it. Which is kind of weird because

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sometimes I might not feel in the mood to do recording,

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but once I start the recording, I cheer up, and

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when I've completed the recording, I feel good like I've

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actually accomplished something, like I've contributed something to the world

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in my little way. But sometimes it's just a no go.

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As far as a loss for words, I think, if

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I'm in if I'm talking to human, yeah I'm not Mike,

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I'm not saying you're not human, don't ever go at me.

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And what I think if I was face to face

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with one person I had this would be I mean,

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I think the reason why it is easier because there's

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no interruption. There's nothing interrupting my stream of thoughts. If

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if this is a conversation, then I would have to

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stop talking and it'd just be a different process because

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in order to get to some of the I guess

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more weird things that come out of my mouth, it

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takes a bit of traveling, It takes a bit of

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I need to like just let go, just you know,

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be free without I was gonna say without censoring myself,

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but you know what I do, I don't sense to myself.

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But in the end, I kind of do a little bit,

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but I generally don't generally. Occasionally I said something and

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I edit it out and I think, no, it's like no,

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and you might be thinking, yeah, but you said something

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the other day and didn't edit that out. What kind

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of stuff do you edit out? What it's like? What

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I know? I'll just you got it. Well, you haven't

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got to remember, but you could maybe you think that.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes I leave stuff and it makes me laugh. I

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know it might sound strange, but I've just I just

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sometimes find things funny, and even when I listen back

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to it, it just makes me giggle because it's just so ridiculous.

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I like absurd, I do. I like absurd, and but

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I like I like everything I like so well, anything

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that makes me laugh I like. And I lost for words. No,

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there's a freedom. This is freedom for me. This is

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the only time I feel free is when I can

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just talk and I can just be me. And I

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think I've found my voice over the last eight years,

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which might sound weird because it's a long period of time.

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Is it seven How many years? Is it seven years?

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Not eight years? Is seven years? Seven years? Sorry? Since

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I've been doing since twenty eighteen, since I've been doing these,

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let me boy to sleep or lumbits, lumbits, lumbits bites. Yeah,

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since something doing these, I think I've discovered my voice.

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At the same time, I realized I'm not a bad

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person really, just you know, stuff I come out with.

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I'm not out to cause anyone problems. I don't really

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have any I don't really have much in a way

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of extreme views. I never really wanted to have extreme views.

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You know, I grew up in a society in the seventies.

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You know, I was born in nineteen seventies, So I

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went through the seventies where there was a lot of

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extreme views around to do with well every single aspect

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of life really, and as I got older, you know,

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once I kind of reached I mean, it still went

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on through the eighties as well, but as I started

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to get older, I realized that these views that I

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had weren't my views, and I started to do something

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about it. Started to educate myself a bit, and by

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educate myself. I mean, just just read and listen read

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other people's opinions. I think that can be educating. So

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if you've got one side of the argument and that's

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the only side of the argument you ever hear, it's

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going to kind of make sense, especially if you're a

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kid and you've grown up with that. But then if

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you see the other side of the argument, it can

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be like it could be annoying, it can be difficult

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to hear. But then if you see another part of

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the argument from a different perspective, and then again from

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another perspective, And the more perspectives you get, the I

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think the more educated I became realizing that it is

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opinions and perspective and experiences people. You know, we've all

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got different experiences, and it's yeah, I'm not not really

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into the extremest things, and it is I can't neighbor.

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It's proper proper right wing lays shouting on about it,

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and they it's like it's almost like they'd they read

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the sun and that's where they get their their opinions from,

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and that's where they get their information from, and everything's

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kind of based around It's like no new knowledge is

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going to go in because they've got that fixed, that

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fixed mentality, that that model that's there. I realized this

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has got nothing to do with the question, is it,

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But yeah, for me, yeah I do. I'm trying to

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explain that sometimes I do have a loss for words,

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but not really genery, not in this not for this podcast.

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I'm hm hmm. I mean there are better days some days.

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I guess I'm probably a bit more upbeat than others.

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I try not to be. I try not to. I

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try to keep it light if I can, but it's

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not always, not always easy, you know. But at the

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same time, this isn't therapy for me. I'm not talking

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to help myself therapeutically, or though it might be helping me,

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maybe you'd be helping other people in some ways to

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hear someone talking. And you know, if I don't really

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mention my mental health, travels, journeys, whatever you want to

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call it, over the last fifty years, you know, fifty

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odd years, I don't really go into it too much detail,

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but I think maybe for some people would look at this,

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look at where I am now, and I'm doing all right,

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all things considered. You know, I'm still here. According to

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some of the messages I get. I'm helping people and

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I'm doing something positive with my time. And I mean

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my psychologist said this to me because I remember saying

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this is years ago. She said, can you put your

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trouser back on? Please? Like she said, didn't you? What

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do you want? You want a treat? I gotta go,

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and I'm not gonna go. You can hear me. I'm

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just gonna go and get my treat out of the packet.

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All right? All right, here we go. How did that

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get on the law? Will you stop checking my stuff

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on the floor? Wow? I wait? So I've got this

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good boy chewy chicken twists with one hundred natural chicken

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breast meat, promotes dental hygiene and a complimentary pet FOD

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Did you hear what you said? He said, I don't

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care what it says on the packet, just give me it.

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All right. Well, I'm trying to open it. He's sitting

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on both his He's basically sitting on his bum with

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his hands in the air, like just there you go.

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I'm not sure if he learned to do that, or

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if he was taught it, or I don't know if

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he just did it because he's always done it since

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i've had him. But he was ten months old and

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I got him right, So that's that. Uh yeah, I'm

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a psychologist. And this is probably eight nine years ago,

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she said to me, because I said, well, I don't

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feel that i'm really helping society. I'm not help I'm

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not contributing. That's it. I'm not contributing to society being

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at home and not going to work or whatever. And

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she said, yeah, but society is not just your local area.

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Society is not just your country. Society is the world,

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isn't it. Society is everywhere. And I said, what are

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you talking about? She said, I don't know. I'm just

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trying to make you feel better. I said, it's because

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it's Friday afternoon. You're just waiting to go home. She said, yeah,

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I just we should stop talking. I said, well, we

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can have a cup tea if you want. You said no,

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I don't trust your tea, so I'm not going to

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put anything in it. She said, that's a problem. An

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empty cup is no good. Does not question my first

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I said it was a silly conversation, but I just said, ah,

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I didn't think about it really like that. She said, well,

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you got people listening. I mean, if you forget the world,

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you've got people listening in this country just because no

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one's listening locally. I said, yeah, got a few. I

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suppose a few thousand around the country that listen. She said,

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there you go.

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So for.

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So, I guess in a way I am. From then on,

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I kind of thought, maybe I saw a little bit differently.

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I am contributing to society in my own little way,

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in my own weird way. See. Yeah, and maybe if

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someone's listening, if they're like, you're very young maybe or

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I don't have to be young, but they might be listening.

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They might have a bipole or a personality disorder, some

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kind of mental health issue, and wondering like what's going

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to become of them and how they're going to get,

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how they're gonna you know, what's it like to Is

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it even possible to be like that and be in

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your thirties and forties and fifties, And yeah, it is possible.

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I'm proof of that. I was going to say living proof,

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but I don't know if I have to say the

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word of living considering I'm talking. I just heard this

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weird sound outside in the garden, and I didn't know

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what it was, so I just had a little look,

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and it's a man. Looks like he's washing the windows,

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which I'm kind of a little bit confused because but

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these are downstairs windows. Now. I know we have people

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wash the communal windows, but I've never had anyone wash

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my actual windows from outside, not in ten years i've

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lived there. So I've closed on windows just in case

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he's gonna wash them. Literally, I've got us. It's nominally

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joking it. I've got cobwebs that have been outside my window.

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I can't reach them to wash them, been out there

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for so long. If you get a magnifying glass, you

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can actually see one in a like an little rocking chair,

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smoking a pipe, another one knitting because the spiders is

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because they're so old. That would work on some level.

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I'm sure this needs a bit of rewriting. And Ben,

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when you were young and your dad collected you all again,

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did you have any pets? Right? So this is referring

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to when I left the children's home at seven, just

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before I was seven, the summer before I was seven?

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Why do I say summer so loudly? And nineteen seventy seven,

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it was it was literally, I think we moved there

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and Elvis passed away. That was It was that kind

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of period. I remember that day because it rained so hard,

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and I mean this was nineteen seventy seven. This is

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when summers lasted for like it's for seemingly for weeks.

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I mean, whether they did or not, I don't know,

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but we definitely seventy five, seventy six, seventy seven we

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had some pretty long hot summers in the UK. And

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I remember walking I don't know. I think we were

471
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:16.679
walking back from the beach and it pelted down and

472
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:18.840
I've not said the word pelted for a long time.

473
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:27.880
Pelted down with rain, like really, we were all soaked through. Now,

474
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.280
bearing in mind I was tiny and probably three drain

475
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.840
three brain drops probably would have been enough to half

476
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:41.960
wet me anyway. And you know a good thing about

477
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.119
it is whenever it rained that hard, I just wet

478
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.960
myself because I didn't it didn't matter. I could do

479
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:50.719
a wee red my pants and no one would know.

480
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.000
Made a mistake one day though, because it started to

481
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.440
rain really hard and the top of me started getting

482
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.280
completely drenched, I thought, okay, good, I can go to

483
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:06.320
the toilet and it stopped raining. Not a good look.

484
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:12.679
Not a good look at all. And other than that,

485
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.039
I mean, it's not the only bad thing about it.

486
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.920
The job interview didn't go very well either, Do do

487
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.480
Do Do Do do? See. I was on the way

488
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:27.840
to a job interview. I'm pretending I was still a kid,

489
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.840
but Sally, I was on my way to job interview,

490
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.199
and it rained, and I weed myself and I went

491
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:38.239
into jobbingterview and he thought I would weed myself and

492
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:41.480
they didn't give me the job. That was That's what

493
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:47.079
that was about. And I don't know if I wanted

494
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:54.159
the job either, but I might have done. I don't

495
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.119
know how many jobs have gone forward. I didn't get

496
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:02.039
twice right twice. I've actually been offered two jobs at

497
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.400
the same time and I had to choose. Happened twice once.

498
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:11.280
I was in two thousand and four, I was offered

499
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:15.239
a job in a call center, like selling car insurance

500
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.679
again or working as a care assistant.

501
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:23.360
Now.

502
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.679
At the time, I wanted to be a care assistant,

503
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.639
but the money would have been absolutely rubbish compared to well,

504
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.119
I just wouldn't have been a good salary. But that's

505
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:36.360
not what I wanted. I wanted to do something where

506
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.800
I was helping people, But I chose to call center

507
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.280
because first of all, I knew what I was doing

508
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:47.119
because I'd already had a job doing that, and I

509
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.079
was a second call certaer, I'd worked in second insurance job,

510
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:55.360
i'd worked in third call center, and also I'd never

511
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.840
done care work before, so I didn't know if or

512
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:02.559
not i'd be right for that kind of job, didn't

513
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:06.719
know if i'd be able to do it. And the

514
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:12.079
second time was back in There might have been other times,

515
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:19.039
but this another one I remember was in two thousand

516
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:28.679
and twelve, around December year or endo November, I went

517
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.280
for two jobs once. One was in a car insurance company,

518
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:34.880
the third car insurance company that I ended up working in,

519
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.440
so you won't be surprised I know that I took

520
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.119
that one. But the other job I got offered was

521
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:47.199
interviewing people on the phone, which actually was much more

522
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:53.079
to my skill set because I wasn't selling anything. I

523
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:56.840
got to be nice all day. I would have been

524
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:00.079
good at it. I just would have been good. It

525
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:07.719
would have been pretty much very easy job, but also

526
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:12.920
rewarding because I'm giving people jobs and stuff, So it's

527
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:18.480
like a like an outcore center working on behalf of

528
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:28.440
big companies. But it wasn't didn't seem like a stable position,

529
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:37.480
and so I just yeah, I just went with the

530
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:48.079
insurance job. Sure, there's a horse joke there somewhere. Stable position.

531
00:43:51.960 --> 00:44:00.000
So yeah, how did I talking about that? You asked me,

532
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:10.760
I had any pets? Blimy. Yeah, So when we went there,

533
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:13.159
do you want that last one? Do you want them?

534
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.239
How about eating your dinner? This is the last one.

535
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:24.639
You've got no more treats, and you're not having any

536
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.920
more treats to next Thursday. So this is it. This

537
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:31.840
is your this is your last treat for a whole week. Okay,

538
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:41.760
up to you. I went we had ants in the house.

539
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:49.960
I mean, that's not really technically a pet, is it. No, No,

540
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:56.199
no pets. I'll let any packet he's probably gonna want

541
00:44:56.199 --> 00:45:03.480
to rip its bits. Let's just take out the thing

542
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.159
which keeps the bag fresh, because I don't think I

543
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.599
want him eating that. You'll be at the bag to

544
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.519
bits now, trying to get to what's not in there.

545
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.920
Not initially, I mean, we weren't in that house for

546
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:28.440
very long because it was a little bit derelict. It

547
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.360
was I think it was condemned, so we had to

548
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.960
move out. My dad joked something about you know, was

549
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.079
fine until I moved in, which was a bit rude,

550
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:47.400
too much farting, ha ha. And so when we moved

551
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:53.719
into the next house, which is only probably five months

552
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.719
maybe after moving there to that town, maybe less, maybe

553
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.559
six months maybe less. It moved into this new buildhouse

554
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:14.960
and we did have a cat called oh what was

555
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:20.679
a cat called Tiger? Yeah, we had a cat called Tiger,

556
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:29.599
and which was the first time I'd ever never stroked

557
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:34.239
a pussy before. I'd never never had a dog, never never,

558
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:41.639
never really been around any kind of pets in my life.

559
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:46.920
So I was a little bit. I didn't it wasn't

560
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:53.400
quite sure how to how to I don't know, I

561
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:59.199
didn't really know what to do with it. But yeah,

562
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:03.079
so we had a cat. Unfortunately didn't but the cat

563
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:11.559
didn't last long. Got Yeah, it got I got run

564
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.280
over to be fairst That's what happened. Got home from

565
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:25.320
school and I was upsetting. But other than that, there's nothing.

566
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:32.519
And then I want a goldfish at the the yearly Fair,

567
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:39.280
which was thinking August or September. That's the thing. You

568
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.159
can make a bit more nice place, don't start knocking

569
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:50.199
stuff off. He wants me to give him more, but

570
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:51.960
I can't give him more because I don't have more

571
00:47:52.000 --> 00:48:01.760
to give him. I really don't, no. So yeah, I

572
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.599
won a goldfish called Popeye. I called him Popeye because

573
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.400
he had one eye that was much bigger than the

574
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:16.280
other eye. So Popeye was my first ever pet, really

575
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:26.679
my first mind. And then it turned out he had

576
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:32.159
an eye disease, so I felt a little bit guilty

577
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.239
called him Popeye. But I didn't think it was fair

578
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.239
to change his name. I've always like it's all he knew.

579
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.880
He didn't know any other name, and I don't think

580
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.280
he realized the reason for the name, so there was

581
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.440
no point telling him there. Didn't see any point changing it,

582
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:52.039
because that just that would be confusing from him. So

583
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.440
I had these little drops took him to the vet.

584
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:58.840
I'm not sure if he did. I thought he might

585
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.280
have taken him to the vet blind me, or maybe

586
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:06.239
could you take a goldfish to the vet? I don't know.

587
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:11.679
We've got these little drops which we put into his water,

588
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:16.679
and it seemed to help a bit. I used to

589
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:21.440
be fascinated with Popeye. It's just the whole kind of

590
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:30.159
the poohing. I found weird the laying of cable, just

591
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:41.000
the whole. Haven't it attached for that long? Wonder if

592
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:46.599
whales do that? M hmm, Well, you couldn't fit a

593
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:53.599
whale in a little goldfish? Think? Could my dad had

594
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.440
a Did we have a goldfish pond? Or is it

595
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.440
my granddaddy put a goldfish pond in?

596
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:04.239
Well?

597
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:06.199
I think we might have got a goldfish pond, but

598
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.400
it might have been my granddad. I can't remember. Now,

599
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.159
that's weird. I'd have to ask my dad. There was

600
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:18.079
definitely a goldfish pond in that garden of that house,

601
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:22.840
just a little goldfish pond, and it was because you

602
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:26.159
used to put a tennis ball in there in the

603
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:39.079
winter so that it always left an air an air hole. Mmm.

604
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:47.119
I remember my brother, my little brother had a goldfish

605
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:54.159
called Tonkatoy or Tony or something like that, and he

606
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.400
was showing off. This is probably about ten years ago.

607
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:03.639
You know, he's he would be nearly fifty soon. He

608
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:10.000
was going on about how he is goldfish lived for

609
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:18.039
like seven years or whatever. He had it for seven years,

610
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.880
and my dad started laughing. This was at the dinner table.

611
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:24.840
That's my dad. They said, why are you laughing? He said, oh,

612
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.239
you just kept replacing it every time he died. You

613
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:36.159
just didn't notice, right, Really, I said, why can you

614
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:41.159
do that with a cat? But I guess it's you know,

615
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:45.880
he didn't didn't want to son. My dad don't like animals.

616
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:49.960
It's really weird. Because one of them said to me,

617
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.880
because they won't come here, they won't enter my house.

618
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.199
My dad won't set foot into this place, this flat.

619
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:04.239
And I was told like was because I had an

620
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.840
Andre the ferret. Now I've got a dog. Doesn't like animals.

621
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.760
Someone said these are allergic to animals. I said, well,

622
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.480
that's obviously a lie. And I said, well it's not

623
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:22.559
true because he spent thirty five years or whatever, forty

624
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.159
years going into people's houses, you know, part of his job,

625
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.960
so you know. And then one day he said, well,

626
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:37.480
I'm not allergic to animals, just don't like them. Okay, good,

627
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.280
at least you've got some truth. Then, But out of

628
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:46.880
the four people he visits, they've all got animals, they've

629
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:55.199
all got dogs, including me, but he doesn't have come here. Weird,

630
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:58.480
isn't it meets me in a restaurant or a coffee place.

631
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:08.639
Won't set put into this place. I don't know. There's

632
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:13.440
a lot to discuss. That's not really the question I

633
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:18.119
really need. Come on me. I know I gave it

634
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:25.480
to you. I'll tell you it was weird. The other

635
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.679
day I gave him a packet and there's one bit

636
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:32.000
left in. There's one of those shoes left. And he

637
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:36.159
just looked at the packet. The packet wasn't closed, it

638
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:41.320
was open. He wouldn't take it out. He just couldn't

639
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:45.679
be bothered. But as soon as he'd eaten that bit,

640
00:53:46.920 --> 00:54:00.480
he destroyed the packet into many pieces. Is what he's

641
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:12.559
doing right now. Other animals we had, Wow, this is noisy.

642
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:27.639
Other animals. When I don't know how old, I was,

643
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:38.719
probably thirteen, my dad got a dog for my stepmom.

644
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:45.719
She wanted a dog, but I couldn't just get a

645
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:52.840
normal dog, just a normal standard dog, normal dog size.

646
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:59.960
No came home with Saint Bernard, one of the world's

647
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:13.960
biggest dogs, and cute as anything. As a puppy. I mean,

648
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.440
all puppies are cute. There's no he can't. There's no

649
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:20.360
non cute puppy. It's like a none cute pussy cat,

650
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:24.519
you know, what I mean. They're just always there, always cute,

651
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:28.960
and they when they're little, and then they oh, is

652
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:30.599
that as noisy as for you as it is for me?

653
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:38.079
That's really winded me up. It's still funny, though, I

654
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:47.559
don't know why he's so silly. So I yeah. We

655
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:52.920
had this dog called Misty Saint Bernard, and you literally,

656
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:56.639
if you just you could watch it grow in front

657
00:55:56.679 --> 00:56:01.800
of you. I mean, I'm not even joking. Grew and

658
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:07.039
grew and grew. I remember one day, everyone, not one day.

659
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.440
I remember saying to my dad, is it finished growing yet? Said,

660
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.559
you asked that yesterday and the day before that. You'll

661
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.119
know when it's finished growing, So the hell, because you

662
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:20.559
won't be able to see the sun anymore. And it

663
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.679
was right huge, bigger than me my I was like

664
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:29.239
thirteen fourteen or whatever. Thirteen bigger than me when it's

665
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:36.159
trully grown, weighed more than me, probably weighed about twelve

666
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:39.920
fourteen stone. I weighed about eight and a half stone.

667
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:45.480
When I took it for a walk, it would just

668
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.840
drag me along. I had no control over it, or

669
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:53.119
over her, other no control over her. She was a

670
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:57.800
beautiful dog, but she got too big for the house.

671
00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:59.719
So she and we had had quite a big house,

672
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:03.920
but it wasn't big in the sense of I had

673
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:08.960
a few rooms, but it wasn't big as finny. There's

674
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:11.800
no point looking for stuff that isn't there. It's not

675
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:17.840
there anymore. It's not there anymore, my dearest. The thing is,

676
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.239
my dad built a kennel outside, and she lived outside

677
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.480
because she just literally she'd get in and she'd knock

678
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:32.679
everything over. She struggled to get through the door. I mean,

679
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:41.440
she was huge, really big, and she wasn't she didn't

680
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:46.639
have what she needed. And this is her time, probably

681
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:51.159
forty so maybe it was when I was fourteen. This

682
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.039
was at a time when everything was starting to go

683
00:57:53.079 --> 00:58:02.599
a little bit wrong, and you know, both my brothers

684
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:08.519
ended up moving out. My stepmom went to start going

685
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:11.440
back to work, so she was hardly ever there. My

686
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:14.679
dad was always at working. I'd be babysitting my little

687
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:20.559
brother after school and during the summer holidays.

688
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:19.280
And.

689
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:26.239
Misty was just left on her own too much. There

690
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.840
wasn't really anyone's fault, It's just that wasn't planned. Just

691
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.440
how it ended up being. You know, it went from

692
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:38.000
being a big, full family house to her I don't know,

693
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:44.400
something quite strange for the last year or so, and

694
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:49.800
Misty she just, I mean, she'd jump on me. Every

695
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:54.000
time I was anywhere near her. She would jump on

696
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.000
me and pin me down and dribble all over my

697
00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:05.639
school uniform. And you know, that was a time when

698
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.159
I didn't really want to go to school with a

699
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:12.360
stain on my trousers going home from you know, school,

700
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:16.480
going home from lunch. What you've been doing? Nothing? Why

701
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:21.280
is that big stain on your crotch? Don't worry about it?

702
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.599
What about I want on your jumper? Oh that's Misty.

703
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.840
Misty just that's dribbling on me. Why didn't you say

704
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.400
Misty did on your crotch as well? I don't know.

705
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.960
I just didn't think quick enough. But she was. She

706
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:39.239
was just like beautiful dog, messive though massive. It probably

707
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:42.360
costs more to feed her than it did me on

708
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:44.800
a week because I were feeding her tripe, which was

709
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:51.679
not cheap. But she was too big, way too big,

710
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:56.679
And it got to the point where I sit sort

711
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:57.719
of try and go. I used to go in the

712
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:02.079
front door because I couldn't go around the back because

713
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:06.119
she jump on me. I was not scared, but a

714
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:11.719
little bit kind of. Yeah, it was a shame. I

715
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.159
couldn't take her for walks. I couldn't handle her. She

716
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:17.719
was too strong, so she didn't get any walks, any

717
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:22.719
proper walks anymore. So yeah, that was that wasn't good.

718
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.280
She did found my dad found her a better home,

719
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:31.400
a proper home. But I mean she had a big

720
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.920
garden to run around in. But you know, for me,

721
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:37.400
it was a big garden I could run, but for her,

722
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.280
she could just like a couple of jumps and she'd

723
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.920
be either side of the the fence. So it wasn't

724
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:52.239
really that big for her. It was more like, yeah,

725
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.719
just a tiny little mat really, the grassho was for

726
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:59.199
her if she was so, she wasn't that big. She

727
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.639
was half the side in the house. She was quite big,

728
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:17.000
and she's white and brown. For of course huge, absolutely huge.

729
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:20.840
Ever since then, I've not, I don't know, just not

730
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:25.320
scared of big dogs. I just I could never have

731
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.320
a big dog. I can only really have a little dog.

732
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.159
If I was going to have a dog, I've always

733
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:35.159
thought that in my mind. I've lived with dogs on

734
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:38.800
a few occasions. Other than that, I lived in London

735
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:45.320
with a dog, one two, three different dogs in London,

736
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:51.199
and they were all kind of medium sized dogs. They

737
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:53.199
weren't big, they weren't little, they were just kind of

738
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:58.360
medium kind of size. And I just thought, well, nothing

739
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:02.440
bigger than that, because they're hard to manage if they're

740
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:07.960
being naughty, because the dogs are strong. Vin he's really strong,

741
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:11.800
but I can I can beat him in an arm wrestle,

742
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:17.519
you know, just about. So I did think if I

743
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:19.519
was because I thought back getting a dog when I

744
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:25.599
first moved in there in twenty fifteen, and I did look.

745
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.960
I got permission from the council, and I started to

746
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:38.159
look at a shelter and there was this Pomeranian, little Pomeranian,

747
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:41.599
and I thought, oh, he's so cute, but he didn't

748
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:45.920
like me. And because he didn't like me, I thought, now,

749
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:50.159
you know, I had this little fantasy that if I

750
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.679
ever went to a shelter, it would be the dog

751
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:54.760
that came up to me that I would take home.

752
01:02:56.639 --> 01:03:01.199
Didn't didn't work like that. They all none of them

753
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:08.960
liked me. So yeah, I don't know. I just I

754
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.480
suppose I had a little fantasy of what it would

755
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:13.880
really be like compared to what it really was like.

756
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:17.800
And then when I did end up getting my own.

757
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:23.679
So if you want to call it pet Andre little ferret.

758
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:27.519
He hated me when I first got him, but I

759
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:29.960
fell in love with him as soon as I saw him.

760
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:33.159
I just fell in love with him. It's his little,

761
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:37.480
tiny little face, little body, but his tiny patches on

762
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.760
his eyes, and just I fell in love with him.

763
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:42.239
And every time I picked him up, he hissed and

764
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.599
he bit me. He absolutely didn't like me.

765
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:46.000
At all.

766
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:51.760
Too. A couple of weeks before he sort of accepted

767
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.360
that I existed, he wasn't able to get rid of me,

768
01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:01.400
and then we were kind of inseparable. Well, he couldn't

769
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:03.360
get away from me, really, I suppose that's the best

770
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:10.480
way to explain it. And so yeah, we had pets,

771
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:14.679
but only really them too. So really, when I first

772
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:20.519
moved there, other than the ants, there was nothing. Then

773
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:24.320
we had the cat and she wasn't there for long unfortunately.

774
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:30.519
And then when we moved, I had my little goldfish.

775
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:36.719
And then when we moved I didn't have a goldfish anymore.

776
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:48.159
Then we had the Misty, the huge, huge dog. In

777
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:53.360
about when I was about fourteen, maybe fifteen fourteen fifteen.

778
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.719
I lose track of the times, really, but it was

779
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:01.840
a point when neither of my brothers were living there,

780
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.840
so I was on the top floor on my own,

781
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:09.559
which was weird, and I didn't like living with them,

782
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.840
but I missed them when they weren't there. It's weird.

783
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:18.840
And it's like the brother just above me, the two

784
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:21.000
years older. He used to wind me up all the time,

785
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.440
but I missed him when he left. When he moved out,

786
01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:28.000
I was like, oh, because I'd spent my whole life

787
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:33.199
with him, literally from the day I was born to

788
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:40.079
fifteen or fourteen fifteen whatever. I'd been with him every

789
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:44.400
single day of my life, moving around the country, living

790
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:48.960
in different places. So suddenly he wasn't there. It was

791
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:53.599
very strange, even though we didn't necessarily get on that well.

792
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.119
And then my other brother, the oldest one, he moved out,

793
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:07.159
and that was strange. It's like just being at the

794
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:11.000
top of that old house on my own, very weird.

795
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:15.880
So what I did is I got myself a budgy

796
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:20.719
to replace him. It's okay, i'd replaced him a budgy,

797
01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:25.599
and I did. I got myself a budgy in a cage,

798
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:27.840
had it in my bedroom start with. But it was

799
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.159
a little bit too clattery a bit annoying, I thought.

800
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:34.239
I put it in the other bedroom, in my brother's

801
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:41.840
bedroom at the front of the house, and unfortunately there

802
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:49.840
was no heat and it froze. There was there was

803
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:53.599
There was this terrible really but it's so this must

804
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:59.840
have been during the winter and there's no Yeah, the

805
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:05.559
heating to be off. I think my dad's always had

806
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:08.880
a bit of a problem with heating. I remember when

807
01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:12.000
I was living with I moved out and lived with

808
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:18.079
my stepmom and her mom in the flat then my

809
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:22.039
step man's flat. So my little brother and my stepmom

810
01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:26.159
were in one bed, my step nn was in the

811
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:29.159
other bed in the other room, and then I was

812
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:33.480
on a living room floor on a little camper bed.

813
01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:37.760
I didn't like that, so I went and moved back.

814
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:39.719
I asked my dad if I could move back into

815
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:43.159
the house because it was horrible, and he said, yeah,

816
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:49.280
it was freezing cold. There was no hit, so you're

817
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:53.280
going to put the heat and said, nope, no heat.

818
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:58.119
I had to move out again. I was fifteen years old.

819
01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:03.159
By the way, I wasn't even leak. They should they

820
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:06.960
had it right, they had a duty of care. But hey,

821
01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:10.599
in back in them days, it wasn't really enforced, but

822
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:13.159
freezing colds. I went back to the flat where as one,

823
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:18.039
but I didn't want to be there because just I

824
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:21.439
missed my own room, you know, my own stuff, my

825
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:25.279
own space. And I know I'd only been there for

826
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:27.479
a little while because the house had to get sold.

827
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.800
But would the house have to get sold if I

828
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:37.680
was living there, I don't know. It probably would have

829
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:40.680
put it off, Probably wouldn't have had to sell it

830
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:48.039
until I was sixteen or maybe eighteen. I don't know

831
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.800
which would have been getting it would have been better

832
01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:54.359
because the house would have been worth a lot more

833
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:00.880
because it went up from being I think sixty six

834
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:05.800
grand when they sold it in nineteen eighty six or

835
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:10.479
nineteen eighty seven, in nineteen eighty eight went up to

836
01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:16.680
two hundred and fifty thousand pounds. Can you believe that

837
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:19.039
that's not even a lie? I remember I went into

838
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:21.039
my dad's because he had a new house by then,

839
01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:24.920
like he'd got himself another house. So I guess they

840
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:28.239
split the money. She took her money, he took his

841
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:32.239
and put a deposit on a new house. So I

842
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:34.760
went in to his house just to see him, and

843
01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:37.920
there was this thing he pointed to it. It was

844
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:42.199
on this little chip board wooden board thing where he

845
01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:46.960
posts no pins stuff on and there was a picture

846
01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:50.039
of our house with a two hundred and fifty thousand

847
01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:57.279
pounds price tag, and you could see a dent in

848
01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:59.920
the wall where he had been head but in it.

849
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:06.199
It was so angry because a year just over a year,

850
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.840
year and a half, and it went up by that much.

851
01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:14.640
A year later it dropped down by about to about

852
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.319
one hundred and twenty five or two years later, so

853
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:21.800
it was a big drop. But you know it's now

854
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.119
worth about seven hundred to eight hundred thousand when onlineas

855
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:30.800
to search, maybe a little bit more. But it's just

856
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.640
like wow. So if we just if I, if I

857
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:36.640
had moved in there, I might have been doing everyone

858
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:42.720
a favor, like everyone i'd stayed there, and the council

859
01:10:43.159 --> 01:10:46.600
so like you I have to especially if I was

860
01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:49.600
on a YTS scheme, which I was said no, you

861
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:54.760
have to look after until he's eighteen and do your

862
01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:59.920
care whatever, which meant the house price would have gone up.

863
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.920
My dad could have sold that one hundred and twenty

864
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:09.359
five grand each. You would have been better off. He

865
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:11.560
would have been better off. He would probably would be

866
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.199
by his house outright, the one he got. I mean,

867
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:25.800
that's would have been amazing if if if if so yeah, see, yeah,

868
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:31.000
we had pets. The budget was a weird one because

869
01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:35.840
I tried to give him mouth to mouth resuscitation and

870
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:39.600
that didn't seem to work. So I thought, I'm not

871
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:41.680
proud of this. I did do this. I didn't. I mean,

872
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:43.840
I just thought to myself because I didn't know if

873
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:51.279
he was still alive or not, and because he just

874
01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:53.119
I didn't know if because he was not looking at me,

875
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:54.439
I didn't know if he was giving me the cold

876
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:58.119
shoulder literally, but if he was just annoyed because I

877
01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:04.359
left him on his own, and I don't know, I

878
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:06.119
was a kid. I just didn't really know what to do.

879
01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:14.000
So I thought, because I was up three stories high,

880
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:16.199
and I thought, well, if I just put it out,

881
01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:21.159
it's going to fly away, isn't it. And Okay, so

882
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:27.560
I know budgies that generally don't necessarily it might not

883
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.079
have a great life out in the wild, it's going

884
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:32.560
to a better life than what it has there, you know,

885
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:40.239
And so I kind of he didn't fly That's what

886
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:44.000
I'm going to say. He didn't fly, So that was

887
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:49.920
the end of that. Never give me off to mouth

888
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:55.680
resuscitation to a budgy. It's a hard one to judge,

889
01:12:55.960 --> 01:13:00.960
you know, But I did do That's genuinely true. I'm

890
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.840
not I'm not proud of it. I just something I did.

891
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:10.479
And the herd compressions. It's very hard to really know

892
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:17.560
how hard to push. If they squeak, you might be

893
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:24.199
pushing too hard. So also, have you ever had one

894
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:29.840
driving test lesson car or motorbike? Yeah? I had more

895
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:34.720
than one. I've had nineteen ninety one, I had a

896
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:37.359
couple of driving lessons. Two thousand and four. I had

897
01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:42.359
a few driving lessons ninety one. I just couldn't be bothered.

898
01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:53.640
Just didn't see the point. And my spatial awareness is

899
01:13:53.800 --> 01:14:02.760
not necessarily perfect, which showed both times I tried to

900
01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:09.600
learn to drive, I was too close or too far.

901
01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:12.720
I could never I can never really figure out where

902
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:17.920
the car should be. That might come with time, But yeah,

903
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:23.960
I didn't. I didn't enjoy it the second time in

904
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:28.920
two thousand and four. My driving instructor was too enthusiastic.

905
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:33.039
It was only a young bloke. I mean I was

906
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:36.760
young as well myself. I was only twenty three or

907
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:44.920
twenty four whatever, But I just twenty three, probably thirty three,

908
01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:47.359
not twenty three. I was thirty three. He was in

909
01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:51.760
his early twenties, i'd say. But it was super excited,

910
01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:56.960
super enthusiastic, motivational, and I just wanted him to calm down.

911
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:00.680
Oh you can do it, you can do like, come on.

912
01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:03.439
I did want it to be negative. I just didn't

913
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:05.600
want it to be like over the top.

914
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:08.560
You know.

915
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.600
It was like emotionally doing cartwheels all the time. It

916
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.199
was just a little bit a little bit too much.

917
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:19.640
So I just whenever he came around, I just hid,

918
01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:24.319
didn't answer the door. I ended up paying for quite

919
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:28.000
a lot of lessons I didn't turn up for anyway.

920
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:33.520
Any end. I stopped. I went into the DVLA or

921
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:35.800
I don't know wherever, the places that I always take

922
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:37.880
my lessons, and I went to the reception. I said,

923
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:41.560
I'd like to cancel my lessons please, and she said, well,

924
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.039
who you driving with? And I said the name of

925
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:47.880
the person who's your instructor. She said, I'll just go

926
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:50.920
and get him. I said no, no, no, no, no,

927
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:59.000
no no, and she said too enthusiastic. I said, yeah too,

928
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:04.520
enthusi We heard that a lot. I said okay, and

929
01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:09.000
we canceled, now is it? And I moved so we

930
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:14.399
couldn't find out where I was. What was my longest relationship?

931
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:21.039
This is from Ben again, So I are you talking

932
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:28.279
about romantic relationships? I guess the longest one. I can

933
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:34.199
go through them. But I had one ninety one, which

934
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:42.000
was that finished in the summer. I had one ninety three,

935
01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:52.720
sort of December ninety three all the way to September

936
01:16:52.960 --> 01:17:00.680
ish ninety four, so so what's that October? So what's that?

937
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:04.640
Nine months? So nine months, that's quite a long one.

938
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:12.680
And there was one in two thousand and nineteen ninety six.

939
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:26.800
It started probably May, maybe June nineteen ninety six, until

940
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:50.279
probably around April nineteen ninety seven. So what's that July, August, September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April.

941
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:55.119
So yeah, that was about ten months. So that was

942
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:59.960
probably the longest relationship I was ever in, like romantic relationship.

943
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:05.199
I'm being very vague with a word romantic, very very

944
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:06.479
generous with that word.

945
01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:40.800
But yeah, that's a look I'm trying to think, No,

946
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:41.520
that's it.

947
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:46.439
That was the longest one ten months. But if you

948
01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:49.119
I was just listening to some of the gardens then

949
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:53.840
and sometimes there's a voice and I just don't recognize

950
01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.920
it and it sounds clear. It's like is it outside

951
01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:06.359
my garden? So, yeah, that's my longest relationship. I'm trying

952
01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:11.039
to think of it. I had any other relationships. I've

953
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:15.000
had a few little ones, a few level short relationships

954
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:27.479
kind of yeah, I mean ninety five I think one

955
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:36.520
two one. I had two. You had two relationships ninety five,

956
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:48.560
one in ninety six, one in ninety seven. During college,

957
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:52.199
I didn't really have I had a friendship with a female,

958
01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:55.760
but it wasn't a relationship, but it was a friendship

959
01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:58.520
and then it turned into something a bit more at

960
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:01.920
the end of the course, at the end of the

961
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.239
university degree. But for the three years we were just

962
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:11.640
really good friends and then that kind of didn't really

963
01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:17.600
come to anything. We were just friends, very close friends.

964
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:31.960
And no, no, not really the last ten years pretty.

965
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:39.560
Much it's been a dry well. But yeah, as long

966
01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:44.840
as one about ten ten months. Can you imagine saying

967
01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:51.439
ten years? Wow? Ten months? Longest one? Cindy, would you

968
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:54.640
tell us about the TV license tax? Do you pay

969
01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:56.920
it every Do you pay it on every TV in

970
01:20:56.960 --> 01:20:59.840
the household or is it one feed for per house

971
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:05.239
regardless of the number of TVs. Mike's answered this, so

972
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:07.359
he hasn't answered. It's a good question. I've never understood

973
01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:11.600
the whole UK TV license thing. How do they know

974
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.319
if you have a TV or not? Do they have

975
01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:16.680
the right to just enter your house and look at

976
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:21.800
all your technology devices? And Hope has written I had

977
01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:23.720
a friend who had to prove she didn't have a

978
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:27.000
TV in order to avoid the tax. She was so

979
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:29.439
so angry she had to let the TV tax people

980
01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:34.239
into search a flat. I'm Canadian, as she was when

981
01:21:34.279 --> 01:21:36.720
she moved to England. Okay, I feel there's a lot

982
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:47.600
of questions there, so yeah, it's one okay, So in

983
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:50.920
this flat that I live, it wouldn't manified one hundred

984
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:54.359
TVs as far as I'm aware, it's this one TV

985
01:21:54.479 --> 01:22:02.159
license per household. They do do a discount or blind people,

986
01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:13.079
and so the holes found that just incredibly rude. To

987
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:16.159
be fair, I just I don't know. I don't know

988
01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:19.920
if there's a discount for people who are pensioners. But

989
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:22.199
I pay what do I pay?

990
01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:22.399
This?

991
01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:30.960
Other? Look? Do I pay every single month TV license pay.

992
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:45.119
I think it's fifteen pound a month TV TV. It's

993
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:46.880
at the beginning of the month, so as so look

994
01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:53.880
first of May fifteen pound. So I pay fifteen pound

995
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:59.680
a month for my TV license. I only have one television.

996
01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:04.279
But the way they figured it's one of those really really,

997
01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:10.680
it's to me such a dumb thing, a dumb idea.

998
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:14.439
It made sense originally, you know, when they first started

999
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:21.880
doing it, I guess, but there was two channels BBC one,

1000
01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:28.880
BBC two, both of them neither of them had adverts,

1001
01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:33.600
although they had sponsorship and stuff like that, but they

1002
01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:38.199
didn't have adverts, so it was a public service. Then

1003
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:45.680
ITV came along, which was financed by advertising. Channel four

1004
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:51.520
came along, financed by advertising. Channel five came along, financed

1005
01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:59.399
by advertising, and then over the years everything except BBC

1006
01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:07.279
channels are financed by advertising, all of them. Yet we

1007
01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:12.960
all still have to pay for BBC, even the people

1008
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:17.960
don't use BBC. And you know, I see YouTube videos

1009
01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:20.279
where people say, oh, come on, you don't have to

1010
01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:21.960
let them in, or if you do let them in,

1011
01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:26.800
they have to prove that you watch BBC. And it's

1012
01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:30.680
not it's not quite as simple as that. There, they

1013
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:34.600
can be a little bit intimidating. You know, these people

1014
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:37.319
coming around, they do it for a living. They know

1015
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:41.000
what buttons, the push, They know how to get people

1016
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:44.720
to open up and how to incriminate themselves or whatever.

1017
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:49.279
And it seems weird that some people go to prison

1018
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:52.840
for not paying a TV license or refusing to pay

1019
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:58.159
the TV license. They actually go to prison. How can

1020
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:04.279
that in any world be justifiable? That doesn't me with

1021
01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:09.760
no strong views. It just seems ridiculous, just all absurd, absurd,

1022
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:15.560
but not in a funny way. And so yeah, we

1023
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:19.279
do have to have a TV license unless you can

1024
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:24.560
prove that you do not have a television. And they

1025
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:31.319
also now include streaming. So if you stream TV, even

1026
01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:35.319
if it isn't the BBC, So if you stream itv

1027
01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:39.479
app which has got adverts on, you're using the TV.

1028
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:44.439
So you watch TV, any kind of terrestrial television, even

1029
01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:48.199
if it's streaming and you're viewing it through the internet,

1030
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:52.159
you have to pay a tie TV license for it,

1031
01:25:52.199 --> 01:25:59.600
according to them. I'm sure there's ways around it. I

1032
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:03.600
know people that don't pay the license and they just

1033
01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:08.680
don't answer the door. I never used to pay the

1034
01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:13.479
TV license until I moved here, But I pretty much

1035
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:18.760
always lived in a multiple occupancy house, so the landlord

1036
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:24.520
paid the TV license for the building. So I never

1037
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:28.600
had to pay a TV license until I moved here,

1038
01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:32.600
and I thought, I'll just pay it because I've seen

1039
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:36.199
what happens when people don't pay it and they get hounded.

1040
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:47.079
And how do they watch that? Look, how do they

1041
01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:48.600
know if you have a TV or not? So this

1042
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:57.800
is Mike, Well, they have these Well they basically just

1043
01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:02.239
look at who's paid for a TV license. So if

1044
01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:05.199
they've got everyone in a road except number forty three,

1045
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:10.159
seventy two, and sixty five haven't paid a TV license,

1046
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:15.479
then they know where to go. And they're just going

1047
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:20.960
to assume that everybody has a TV, because most everybody

1048
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:25.399
does have a TV. Some people don't, but most people do,

1049
01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:29.479
and even those people who don't. Actually, I remember having

1050
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:34.640
this conversation with a dog walker and they said, oh yeah,

1051
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:37.800
they said something about TV, and I said, wait a minute,

1052
01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:42.439
you told me you don't watch TV, because I remembered

1053
01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:46.079
what they'd said previously. When people the contradict themselves, I

1054
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:50.279
tend to remember what they said previously. And she said,

1055
01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:57.399
oh no, I stream. I said, it's still watching Telly

1056
01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:00.399
just because you don't own a television. So she she

1057
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:02.479
didn't own a television, which I assumed she didn't watch

1058
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:06.159
TV or there. There's been times when I've not owned

1059
01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:09.520
a TV, and I do still watch TV online on

1060
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:14.279
my laptop or at least watch programs, you know, streaming.

1061
01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:21.880
So they will check. They can check, and they will

1062
01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:25.960
knock and they will harass, and they also they've got

1063
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:29.880
these vans that apparently can tell, but I don't know

1064
01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:32.399
if they can or not. And I don't know if

1065
01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:38.359
it's just there might just be like a little sausage

1066
01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:41.760
roll maker inside there a little bed that they sleep in.

1067
01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:45.399
I don't know if there's actually anything's working. But yeah,

1068
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:47.840
they've definitely got the law on their side for some reason.

1069
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:51.520
Do they have the right to just enter a house

1070
01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:56.319
and look at your technology devices? According to them, they do,

1071
01:28:57.319 --> 01:29:01.439
but uh, I think it can get to the point

1072
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:05.439
where they can call the police in order to gain access,

1073
01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:13.920
and which is just ridiculous. It's really can you imagine

1074
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:18.319
wasting the police time because you want to see if

1075
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:28.560
someone owns a television that's phenomenally bad bad, and they

1076
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:30.439
do check if they do get into your house. They

1077
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:34.000
do look around and try and check all the technology devices.

1078
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.159
So if you've got a laptop, Dellas Zoom, if you've

1079
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:40.840
got broadband, you've got internet. If you've got a phone

1080
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:46.279
with internet, then you can watch television. If you've got access,

1081
01:29:46.399 --> 01:29:49.319
if you're able to watch television, then they think you

1082
01:29:49.319 --> 01:29:54.159
should be paying a TV license. That's their mentality. Everybody

1083
01:29:54.479 --> 01:30:01.760
with a smartphone can gain access to streaming television in

1084
01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:03.319
the UK anywhere. I don't know what it's like in

1085
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:07.159
America or in Australia or Canada or anywhere else, but

1086
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:13.960
in the UK, any phone, you know, a decent phone

1087
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:20.159
which has internet access, which would be every phone that's

1088
01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:26.760
in the world can stream TV. So it's very difficult

1089
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:33.680
to really get out of it. And yeah, I'm not

1090
01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:35.159
not a big fan of the whole thing, but you

1091
01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:40.159
know what, sometimes what's an old old saying pick your battles,

1092
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:44.399
and I can't be bothered with this. You know, I

1093
01:30:44.439 --> 01:30:48.960
know people that have stood up for themselves and ended

1094
01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:54.439
up with a big fine corek costs and you know,

1095
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:56.960
just like it's not worth it for the sake of

1096
01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:01.640
fifteen pound a month. No, So yeah, they kind of

1097
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.800
got us by the the Curly World is as it were.

1098
01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:11.319
I mean, I just I don't know for personally. I

1099
01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:15.039
think the BBC it would make sense for the BBC

1100
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:19.920
to either just start having adverts or have it as

1101
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:25.720
an app, you know, where people can just subscribe, subscribe

1102
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.840
to all the different channels on the BBC for a

1103
01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:32.439
monthly price, which would be the cost of a TV license.

1104
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:38.640
The problem with that is they would probably I imagine, lose

1105
01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:46.199
ninety percent of their customers. Ninety percent of the revenue

1106
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:52.000
would probably be gone because people wouldn't wouldn't want to

1107
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:57.680
pay you know, if they didn't, they didn't. If they

1108
01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:00.000
didn't have to pay it, they wouldn't. They probably find

1109
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:05.600
another way to watch it. So how do you feel

1110
01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:09.439
about bugs? Says Allie? Are you a kill of spiders?

1111
01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:12.560
I know, I know technically and they record you needed,

1112
01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:17.199
I think, Or do you catch them and bring them outside? Nah?

1113
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:20.760
I don't kill bugs. I'm not bothered our bugs. Really

1114
01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:25.039
flies annoy me because I keep trying to land on

1115
01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:29.560
my food. And I said to him, like, why you

1116
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:32.760
keep landing on my breakfast? And a fly said, I'm

1117
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:34.560
trying to get the taste of that dog poo out

1118
01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:40.000
of my mouth. It's like rude. I was like, why

1119
01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:45.000
they annoy me? Flies annoy me, not enough to sort

1120
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:48.680
of get too angry, just just annoy a bit. Spiders

1121
01:32:48.680 --> 01:32:51.279
I don't care about. I wouldn't even put it outside.

1122
01:32:51.319 --> 01:32:53.159
Just leave it and leave it, let me do what

1123
01:32:53.159 --> 01:33:06.279
it wants. I don't care. And Horace just popped up

1124
01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:10.239
onto the window still and then he's gone talking about

1125
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:20.199
creepy caoris and bugs. Horice pigeon. Yeah, I think spiders,

1126
01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:22.600
I'm not bothered. I don't care about them. I think

1127
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:24.920
the only the only bug, if you want to call

1128
01:33:24.920 --> 01:33:29.119
it a bug, would be like a wasp or a

1129
01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:36.079
be a hornet, that kind of thing. I would definitely

1130
01:33:36.119 --> 01:33:39.000
try to well. I would always try and guide them

1131
01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:44.279
out of the window. I would put the effort in

1132
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:48.039
to get them out of the window because this isn't

1133
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:52.920
the right place for those animals to be. They you know,

1134
01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:57.359
they need to be outside. None of them want to

1135
01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:02.119
be inside, really, I don't think. So I try and

1136
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:06.039
get them out and without doing any harm. You know,

1137
01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:12.439
in the past, if it was a spider, I'd probably

1138
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:15.119
would try and get it outside. But I don't care anymore.

1139
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:19.640
Just doesn't bother Spiders don't bother me at all. I

1140
01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:23.199
don't bother them. They don't bother me. But luckily I'm

1141
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:25.039
in a country where we haven't got a way about

1142
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:38.560
stuff like that. Yees. For me, it just I think

1143
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:41.359
flies with anyone's that annoying me. And when I hear

1144
01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:46.279
a wasp's like, because I know wasps don't bother me

1145
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:49.319
if I don't bother them, but trying to get them

1146
01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:51.239
out of the window can be a little bit Bothersing

1147
01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:54.439
to them, don't. I don't want to push them, you know,

1148
01:34:54.560 --> 01:35:00.439
too far. Hope asks me, do you like any sports

1149
01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:11.760
other than boxing? If so, what, no, Sandy asks, uh No, genuinely,

1150
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:16.840
not really. I don't mind a bit of mixed martial

1151
01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:21.439
arts in UFC and stuff that can be amazing. I'm

1152
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:27.079
this skill. I never really appreciated the skill until more recently,

1153
01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:33.439
and it's phenomenally skillful. I just don't find it when

1154
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:35.960
they're on the floor, that's when it's the real skill is.

1155
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:42.920
But I don't find it exciting to watch. It's interesting

1156
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.520
to watch, but it's not exciting in the same way

1157
01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:51.800
as punching is for me. But I can see, like

1158
01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:56.399
if someone can do something that I can't do most people,

1159
01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:59.800
to be fair, So I'm impressed to see the highest

1160
01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:03.880
legs and with the USC that's what you see, just

1161
01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:07.119
like with the professional boxers. He's seeing the boxers at

1162
01:36:07.159 --> 01:36:11.520
the highest level. And I can't even talk about other

1163
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:14.560
other sports that I might like having in boxing without

1164
01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:19.760
talking about boxing. It's terrible. And I used to I

1165
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:23.880
used to like tennis and snooker when I was a kid.

1166
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:27.119
But that's and darts, even because we were grew up

1167
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:31.840
watching that stuff. You know, snooker was huge in this

1168
01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:39.560
country in the early eighties. Darts was huge, honestly, it's

1169
01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:49.600
a big, really really popular sports. Eric Bristow and Tennis McEnroe,

1170
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:54.560
Connor Beyond brought Beyond Beyond Borg what his name was,

1171
01:36:55.279 --> 01:37:00.399
and all these and then Agacy and in the early

1172
01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:04.800
nineties or late eighties, early nineties, and you know, tennis

1173
01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:10.960
was huge in this country during the old McEnroe era,

1174
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:16.239
partly because of McEnroe, to be fair, he just he

1175
01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:24.399
really a bit like Alex Higgins with snooker. He made

1176
01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:30.359
it into Hurricane Higgins they called him, but he was

1177
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:36.640
it was a maverick. And so yeah, I don't know it,

1178
01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:38.800
so I quite I used to watch football as well

1179
01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:42.800
because my oldest brother loved football and I wanted to

1180
01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:46.960
be like him a bit, so I used to watch football.

1181
01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:51.920
And at that time we lived near a town called Ipswich,

1182
01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:55.399
which was head of the league. They won the FA

1183
01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:59.319
Cup and the Europa Cup or whatever. They were the

1184
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:05.079
top league. They were the top team in the country,

1185
01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:10.279
and so it was hard not to kind of been

1186
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:15.640
to get blown away with that wave of excitement when

1187
01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:19.880
our local team was the best team in the entire

1188
01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:23.239
country and one of the best teams in the world

1189
01:38:23.439 --> 01:38:29.279
like Europe, you know, like football teams. So I'll tell

1190
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:36.359
you when that was. Nineteen seventy eight two So Ipswich

1191
01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:44.479
Town Football Club FC, Ipswich Town FC. So let's have

1192
01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:51.119
a look the nineteen seventy eight FA Cup Finals Association

1193
01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:54.960
for match between Arsenal and its Switched Town six and

1194
01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:01.600
May nineteen seventy eight at old Wembley Stadium. And so

1195
01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:04.960
if I just go to study, I want to just

1196
01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:10.680
I want to back this up with actual correct information

1197
01:39:10.840 --> 01:39:17.119
rather than just me making it up, because I do

1198
01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:27.960
remember them being really really really really big and it

1199
01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:31.520
was their biggest time and it was during the Bobby

1200
01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:35.079
Robson era as well, so Bobby Robson who was a

1201
01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:46.520
legend as a manager, and so look so Bobby Rogers

1202
01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:52.600
during the Bobby Robson era. At their peak in the

1203
01:39:52.680 --> 01:39:57.079
nineteen seventeen nine nineteen eighty season, they beat Manchester United.

1204
01:40:03.039 --> 01:40:05.840
Their major success came nineteen seventy eight when Ipswich b

1205
01:40:06.119 --> 01:40:09.520
Arsenal at Wembley Stadium to win the only their only

1206
01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:15.319
FA Cup trophy. The triumph was followed or by almost

1207
01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:22.199
winning the triple in eighty eighty one. So they are

1208
01:40:22.399 --> 01:40:28.840
really big, really big back then, and it's which did

1209
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:37.439
win the UEFA Cup in nineteen eighty one as well.

1210
01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:40.960
It's hard, I mean anyone that's been I suppose there's

1211
01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:46.560
probably thousands of people, anyone that's had their local football

1212
01:40:46.600 --> 01:40:52.359
team be like at the top, even if it is

1213
01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:54.359
just for a year, a couple of years or whatever,

1214
01:40:55.159 --> 01:40:58.640
it is something it has an effect on the local area,

1215
01:40:59.159 --> 01:41:04.600
it really does. Like really, I've only experienced it once

1216
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:07.279
and that was, you know, when I lived near Ipswich

1217
01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:12.479
and when I was a kid. So between seventy eight

1218
01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:18.319
and eighty two, Ipswich for big players and to win

1219
01:41:18.359 --> 01:41:22.399
the FA Cup is like at the time, it was

1220
01:41:22.439 --> 01:41:27.600
like the highest prize really and there's a lot more

1221
01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:30.319
different cups now. That's for me. FA Cup was a

1222
01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:34.600
much bigger deal than it is even now. I'm saying

1223
01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:38.359
that like I know something about football. And also what

1224
01:41:38.439 --> 01:41:44.000
was really big back then was sabutio, which is I

1225
01:41:44.039 --> 01:41:46.960
don't know if you've ever heard of it. It's basically

1226
01:41:47.319 --> 01:41:50.399
you put this green cloth onto a table. You can

1227
01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:51.960
play it on the floor as well, but it needs

1228
01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:55.239
to be a flat floor. I mean, I don't know

1229
01:41:55.479 --> 01:41:58.960
how many floors are bumpy and lopsided, but you buy

1230
01:41:59.039 --> 01:42:02.479
flat I mean because you're you're basically got these things

1231
01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:07.000
that they're like little weebels, you know, weebeles wibble but

1232
01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:11.760
they don't fall down, but you push them and they

1233
01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:18.439
then they hit the ball and the ball pushes and yeah,

1234
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:20.239
I don't know, it made sense to me when I

1235
01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:29.239
said it, but a very popular game, so no, I

1236
01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:37.159
don't really. Boxing is the only sport I follow, even

1237
01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:47.359
things like martial arts, the taekwondo of the Olympics, judo.

1238
01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:54.359
I think some of that stuff. Judo, for example, is

1239
01:42:55.600 --> 01:43:01.520
when you realize what's being done, I think, okay, I'm

1240
01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:05.640
going to talk talk for myself with judo, because my

1241
01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:07.880
dad was a judo man. When he was a school

1242
01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:13.640
he got to got brown belt in judo, and so

1243
01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:15.640
that was his thing and he kept it with him.

1244
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:18.680
He's like, I always, yeah, it was good balance and

1245
01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:21.680
all that stuff, But I didn't watching it. I didn't

1246
01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:26.479
see I couldn't see any kind of excitement, any kind

1247
01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:30.239
of point to watching it. I could see the point

1248
01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:35.520
of doing it, But once you learn a little bit

1249
01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:40.720
about what they're doing, you realize that it's phenomenal what

1250
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:46.079
they're doing actually, And when you put two really really

1251
01:43:46.159 --> 01:43:51.520
good people, it's it's like a chess game. It's almost

1252
01:43:52.239 --> 01:43:54.319
you know, if you put one one really good person

1253
01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:59.399
against someone that's average, then that really good person is

1254
01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:03.880
going to check that average person all around, and it's

1255
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:06.720
going to look spectacular. It's going to you know, it's

1256
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:10.319
going to look just amazing. But you put two really

1257
01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:15.239
good people together and no one's going to get chucked around. Necessarily.

1258
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:19.560
They're going to try and chuck each other around. And

1259
01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:23.319
it's the same with the USC or with the jiu jitsu.

1260
01:44:24.760 --> 01:44:27.159
They'll try and get each other, choke each other out,

1261
01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.920
but it's much easier for you know, if I got

1262
01:44:30.920 --> 01:44:36.600
into a jiu jitsu someone that's I even doing it

1263
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:41.319
a little while would get me into a choke in seconds.

1264
01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:50.560
But two really good people they can't. It's not that easy.

1265
01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:52.800
Not that it's that it will be easy for them,

1266
01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:59.760
but I'd say it's it's which in a way, as

1267
01:44:59.800 --> 01:45:08.039
a as an observer, as an audience, it I think

1268
01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:16.319
unless really into the sport, the skill doesn't necessarily impress

1269
01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:22.119
because not based on speed. But with you know, with races,

1270
01:45:22.399 --> 01:45:25.880
the one who wins first, when it gets their first wins,

1271
01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:29.520
it's a much easier thing to watch, isn't it a

1272
01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:36.479
running race, a swimming race, waring rowing, sorry, rowing race,

1273
01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:43.560
hoeing hoeing rowing, horse race or whatever. You know, when

1274
01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:48.199
people are racing and it makes sense like okay, the

1275
01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:53.560
winner wins. But when it comes to like combat sports

1276
01:45:53.880 --> 01:45:57.039
is just so much more. I mean, boxing used to

1277
01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:01.199
be I preferred the boxing in the olymps. How it

1278
01:46:01.359 --> 01:46:03.720
used to be when they used to have a scoring

1279
01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:08.439
system when a beat like would actually every time a

1280
01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:13.000
glove touched the head guard or the body, it would

1281
01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:18.640
trigger off a point. So that was good because then

1282
01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:22.000
you could see how many points each boxer needed to win,

1283
01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:23.960
and if he was on one person's side, you so

1284
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:27.520
i't more get more Now they don't do that anymore.

1285
01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:30.680
If I don't even have head gear anymore. I don't

1286
01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:36.680
think in the amateur do they have head gear in

1287
01:46:36.760 --> 01:46:39.800
the the Olympics, I don't know if they do anymore.

1288
01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:48.159
They might do, so I think with because I'm a

1289
01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:53.000
very I'm a non fan when I watch any other sport.

1290
01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:57.520
So if I do watch something, I'm looking for excitement

1291
01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:01.279
in the same way as if someone not really into boxing,

1292
01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:05.640
they might watch the same five as me and think

1293
01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:09.720
what a pile of rubbish, and I might think that

1294
01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:13.800
was an amazing fight. It might not be exciting in

1295
01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:18.000
the sense of lots of action, but the skill involved,

1296
01:47:19.640 --> 01:47:23.359
you know, it might might be phenomenal. The kind of

1297
01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:29.279
skill you'd get with Mayweather, or the kind of skill

1298
01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:37.720
you get with Tyson Fury or with Usik. There's different

1299
01:47:37.800 --> 01:47:46.239
types of skill levels, or with Lumachenko the noomenal skills.

1300
01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:53.720
So it's not always exciting to watch, But you know,

1301
01:47:53.880 --> 01:47:57.279
I think there's a reason why only one person ever

1302
01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:06.960
beat Tyson Fury and there was Usik, because Usik is phenomenal.

1303
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:12.119
He is now poundful pound the top out of everyone

1304
01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:17.760
at the moment. But is this something he's like, Wow,

1305
01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:23.000
he's got Yeah. Anyway, I won't bore you about talking

1306
01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:28.840
about boxing, but no, I'm not really interested in other sports.

1307
01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:38.720
Boxing is the only one I really like, and I'm

1308
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:44.880
trying to think of any others. No, not really, Sandy asks,

1309
01:48:45.039 --> 01:48:48.079
I would like to know if you have taught Vinny

1310
01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:52.039
any tricks. And also, thank you for being with me

1311
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.359
for the last six years. I love fullness leap to

1312
01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:58.159
your stories. Well, thank you, Sandy, thank you for inviting

1313
01:48:58.239 --> 01:48:59.800
me to be with you for the last six years.

1314
01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:07.239
I'm happy to help Vinnie. He's taught me a few tricks.

1315
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:12.640
Vinnie will not do a single thing I ask him

1316
01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:16.560
to do. Do you know the whole time I've had him,

1317
01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:23.199
which is two years and two years and five months

1318
01:49:24.439 --> 01:49:27.920
six months, nearly two years and six months I've had him,

1319
01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:31.760
he won't come into the kitchen unless he wants to.

1320
01:49:34.479 --> 01:49:36.920
And if I say to him something's making a weird

1321
01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:41.560
noise over there. If I say to him, do you

1322
01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:45.720
want to come come in the kitchen, he just stands

1323
01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:53.279
at the door and stares at me. Right, I've now realized,

1324
01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:56.239
And this is a new thing. If I say to him,

1325
01:49:56.239 --> 01:50:02.680
stay there, he runs into the kitchen. He won't do

1326
01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:06.079
what I tell him. It does exactly the opposite. So

1327
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:08.159
I realized he wouldn't do what I told him. I

1328
01:50:08.279 --> 01:50:11.039
realized that. But he will do the opposite. So if

1329
01:50:11.079 --> 01:50:15.520
I don't want him to do something, I just tell

1330
01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:17.600
him to do the thing I don't want him to do,

1331
01:50:18.640 --> 01:50:21.039
and he does the thing that I do want him

1332
01:50:21.039 --> 01:50:26.359
to do. No, no, I tell him to tell him

1333
01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:28.279
to do the thing that I do want him to do,

1334
01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:30.800
but I tell him not to do the thing that

1335
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:35.840
Oh I knew what I mean. You know what I mean.

1336
01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:41.319
So if it's reverse psychology or whatever, but he will

1337
01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:45.199
not If I say sit, he stands. I say stand,

1338
01:50:45.319 --> 01:50:50.840
he sits. He You know, he won't do a single

1339
01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:54.640
thing I tell him or ask him. The only thing

1340
01:50:56.039 --> 01:51:03.079
he's ever done consistently is when I'm out, And only

1341
01:51:03.159 --> 01:51:06.800
command he ever listens to is when I shout to him,

1342
01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:12.880
vinny ignore me, and he does the only thing he

1343
01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:20.119
actually listens to. So he won't do anything, no tricks, nothing,

1344
01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:28.279
He's just completely is all about him. He does whatever

1345
01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:34.119
he wants, whenever he wants even in bed right, if

1346
01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:39.520
I accidentally touch him, my hand moves over, or my

1347
01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:47.520
leg moves, he growls at me. It's my bed, he

1348
01:51:47.880 --> 01:52:01.439
growls at me. He's very, very, a little bit temperamental. Ah,

1349
01:52:07.920 --> 01:52:10.439
I think that's all the questions. I've got no idea

1350
01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:13.119
how long I've been doing this for, but it's now

1351
01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:19.800
tend to four, so I've been doing it over an hour.

1352
01:52:22.399 --> 01:52:25.520
There's warm in it, that's because I opened I closed

1353
01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:28.199
the window. Isn't it because of that man doing washing,

1354
01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:35.199
cleaning the windows or whatever? So thank you for listening,

1355
01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:38.239
and remember to be kind to yourself because you do

1356
01:52:38.439 --> 01:52:43.119
deserve to be happy. Lots of love, bye,