May 5, 2025

(music) Monday’s Boring Objects | LMBYTS #1345 | 5th May 2025

(music) Monday’s Boring Objects | LMBYTS #1345 | 5th May 2025
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Hello, and welcome to let me buy you to sleep.

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And today is Monday's Boring Objects. Please only listen when

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you can safely close your eyes. It is fifth, Monday,

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the fifth of May, two thousand and twenty five. It's

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five minutes past five per what else? Wow? Would juicy information?

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Can I tell you? I'm trying to think. Well, first

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of all, I've got no idea what I'm going to

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talk about. Yeah, I genuinely do not know what I'm

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going to talk about. So before I do that, I'm

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going to before I talk about what I don't know

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what I'm going to talk about. I just want to

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wish everyone well, I hope you're doing okay, and let

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you know I do have a Facebook group called Jason

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Newland's Boring Group. I have a YouTube channel at Jason

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Newland where it's it's now my podcast, so I upload

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all the latest recordings. I no longer have a sound

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cloud account. Well, the two SoundCloud accounts I got I deleted,

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which is caused a little bit of a problem which

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I didn't kind of think about unfortuately. So apologies to

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anyone that was listening to me on SoundCloud. I really

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said to anyone that is listening to me on SoundCloud.

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But I mean what you could do if you wanted to,

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You could always start up a SoundCloud account yourself, download

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my recordings, just upload them to SoundCloud for other people

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to listen to. And that's something you could do on

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other platforms, so you could share what I do. All

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my recordings are on my website. I've been working over

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the weekend on my website and there's always work to do.

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But what I've done is right at the top of

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the page. There is a they call it a carousel,

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so you can just click through and find each podcast

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that you want. So Deep Sleep, Whisper, Relax, Sleep and

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Panic Attack Relax Relaxation of Stress and Panic Attacks, Relax

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and Sleep, Nosss Daily Stress and Pain Relief, Jason's Bedtime

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story Time, Let Me Boil Your Pain Away, Sleepy Boring Objects,

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Jase Stop Smoking, Chronic Pain, Q and A Friday, Let

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Me Boil the Sleep Stop Now BITI Blindness a lot,

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Isn't It? And Hypnosis is Sleeping Deeply, which is the

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main podcast where everything is. So if you wanted and

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something might be worth doing anyway, is you can download

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the recording. You can stream it on the website. We'll

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just download it and play it. And if you wanted

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to put together your own SoundCloud account or put together

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you know, a playlist online or dogs Barking put it,

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you can do that. All my stuff is available to download,

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and I've got a list of podcasts which you can

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click on, which would just show that the latest recordings

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on there, or if you're really excited, I've got playlists

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which you can then click on. We're We've got let

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me boil to Sleep one to fifty and then fifty

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one to thirteen hundred. There's quite a few playlists there

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you can click on there and all those recordings are

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also available for you to stream. So they've broken into

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fifties categories of fifty. That was boring, wasn't it. So yeah,

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it's all available. I realized that. I mean, I've also

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I've been updating the podcast apps so it's easier to

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find stuff as well. So if you listen on Apple Podcasts,

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Amazon Music Podcast App, cast Box, Deezer, Luminary Podcast, Republic Player,

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FM Podcast, Addict Podcast, Index, pod Chaser, pod Friend, adverse A,

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pod First Sorry, Podbean, Spreaker, and Spotify. So I've done.

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All of my podcasts are listed so you can click

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and it takes you straight there. So it's just I

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don't know. I hope that helps. Also in the index

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you've got I've got a few little shortcuts, so you've

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got l mb y T yes, so let me boy

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to Sleep. It just takes you straight to the main

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let Me boyd to Sleep podcast. I've also got Q

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and a Friday if you click on that and that,

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I'll then or the latest Q and a Friday recordings.

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And you've got our little form of this top saying

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ask me anything. There's also deep Sleep Whisper hypnosis ones

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as well. Again you can ask me anything, so no

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go to ki you can ask me anything. There's no

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ask me no form on that one. I just want

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to hear you. So yeah, it's a pretty good website.

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Actually it's getting more and more. More and more people

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are down and streaming on the website than ever before. Well,

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that has been a very quiet day to day. It's

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a bank holiday Monday here, so maybe that's why. Maybe

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it's a similar thing, or maybe it's a fact that

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I haven't made a recording for two days and you're

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only as good as your last recording. Perhaps that's weird,

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maybe it's just boring listening to old stuff. But I

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just thought, you know, some podcasters do one recording a week,

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and that's that's about average, just about like the how

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kind of works out. But if I did one a week,

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I don't know if anyone would be listening. Would anyone listen?

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I don't know. Last week was weird? One was? It

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was it Monday, Sunday, Saturday, Friday, Thursday, Wednesday, Tuesday day Monday,

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so not last week with the week before. So one

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day I had six hundred and three downloads, which is,

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you know, it's very low. The next day four thousand,

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three hundred and four, Yes, weird. And I was hoping

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that people on the SoundCloud would just come over and

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listen on the podcast st apps. There's so many places

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to listen to me. And I'm just trying to cut

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down expenses and being you know, it's not a huge

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amount of money I'm saving, but it's two hundred and

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what was it, two hundred and fifty for a year

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that I'm saving and I've got it's just my finance

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is a bit weird at the moment. I'm gonna they're

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changing me over to the old different payment scheme, which

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means I don't have to go two or three weeks

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possibly without any money while the change over. So you know,

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I'm just being a little bit more frugal. Is that

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the word fruity frugal? Maybe I do know? So let

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me see what am I going to do? What is

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the subject? Can I? I asked chet GPT, I think

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of twenty strange, mundane, every day subjects. So it might

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be able to come up with something. Because I've been

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talking all the way through this, I haven't had chance

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to think. See it comes up with stuff it doesn't

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really fit what I do. The whispery fizz of a

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just open can of sparkling water. I mean that I'm

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not gonna street lamps, single socks, the fridge light. Let's

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tell its own jokes here as well, morning mirror fog.

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Maybe I've run out of Monday boring objects. Maybe I've

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run out of boring objects. Blind me what's boring subject?

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Or what's an exciting subject that I find fascinating? But

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maybe isn't that exciting? Although I do have just remembered

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on Instagram, I had a message on Instagram, where is it.

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I see these messages when I'm like half asleep, and

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I forget where are they? Where were they with? Oh, dear,

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I don't know, so I'm just really I was. I

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was looking at it. I can you find where it is?

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But I had a message, where are you there? You are? Is?

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I have to go into Facebook on like on my

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laptop and try and find it there. Okay, Hey, Jucy,

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I was wondering if you could do a little something

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on addiction, and I wonder this, this is Shanna. I'm

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wondering if you if you could start a boring Instagram

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page for people like me that aren't on Facebook. Oh

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the second one I answer first. What you could do,

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Shanna is if you want to is actually just start

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on yourself and run it. And the only reason I

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did the I started the Facebook page because no one,

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no one wanted to start it. I just no one

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knew who no one knew who I was. I've now

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found two hundred and seventeen people that kind of know

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who I am. So I'm feeling famous, very very famous.

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But if you want why you just start a page

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on Instagram and if you're on TikTok, whoever's listening to this.

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If you've got on TikTok and just run a page

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posting my recordings or posting my latest stuff, if you

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want to very brilliant, because I'm not very the right

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word is. I kind of know my way around Facebook

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and YouTube. But some of these apps, some of the

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you know, the there's lots I'm not even on. Yeah,

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I'm not really particularly apt at doing it. I'm not

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apt with the apps. Oh blind me. That was a pun.

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I didn't even see it coming. And I yeah, if

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you'd like to do that, anyone that's listening, if you've

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got a social network app or something online that you

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run or that maybe you'd like to please just if

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you let me know, not not for permission, just I'm interested.

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I can join or I can watch them sidelines. But yeah,

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i'd probably join, but that would be good. Yeah. I

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did do two recordings on addiction Now without getting you know,

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all heavy and that I did them just after my

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best friend passed away and that was kind of the

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cause of that. And the two recordings I did were

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probably not very gentle. So I mean, I don't know, Yeah,

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I don't know if I've even left them online. I

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might have done but they're kind of very well hidden,

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if you know what I mean. They're kind of I

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don't even know where they are. But I did two

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two recordings. I've got them on my computer. But that

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sub that's sub right, I got. Yeah, I did two recordings.

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One helped with addiction and the second one one was

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an introduction and one was the second one which is

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called friends and really the number two you have a future, Okay, right, Okay,

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so I did too. I mean I've done things for

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addiction separate to that. In it I say addiction habits.

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I've done a did a recording for alcohol once. I

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don't know where was it alcohol alcohol alcohol, Okay, drink,

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drink okay. Hypnosis is twenty fifteen hypnosis of binge eating

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and drinking. Mmmmmmmmmmmm Okay. That was a request as well.

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So one of that's in my requested thing because I've

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got a podcast for requests which requested recordings eating binge eating. Yeah, yeah,

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I got that. It's on there. In fact, I've got

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two binge eating and drinking, and I've got another one

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requested by Claire help with other eating and binge eating.

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Nineteenth of November two thousand and two was an eighteen

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s Claire used to listen to me regularly and then

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stop listening. So I don't know. I think I must

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have place. You got bored with me. I think some

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people get bored, get bored with a boring person. That's

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going to happen, isn't it, I guess? Or itchy shoulder. Yeah,

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I'm just trying to think. What can I talk about today?

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I talk about bipolar, but I said boring. You can

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talk boringly about that, but it's not really it's not

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the more stop left in subject? Is it? No? Working

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in the bakery? What jobs have I never talked about?

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There's got to be some jobs that I've never talked

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about that I've had. If I talked about my security jobs,

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being a security officer, I ever done that, I must

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have talked about that. I would have talked about it.

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But did I ever let's talk about that being a

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security No? I did? I think I talked. Yeah, I

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have talked about it recently. I think what other jobs

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if I had? So I've gone through all the jobs

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I've had pretty sure. I've been a cleaner, I have

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been a traffic warden. I could talk about how I've

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never been a traffic warden. I could just go through

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the year years where I never worked as a traffic warden.

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The first year of my life, I never worked as

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a traffic warden. What are the jobs? Sales jobs? Okay,

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and I'm not really including you know what I was thinking,

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I could put together a little sales book four people

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working in call centers, just a little, a little guide,

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a little a little something that may be really useful

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to people that have never worked in a call center before.

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Just a little bit of advice from someone that's you know,

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I spent a good few years doing that kind of

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work in four different companies, three insurance plus another one

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selling mobile phone contracts. So I've been thinking about doing

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that as a book. In fact, this is going to

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be my boring subject. I'm going to talk about this

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sales book I'm thinking of in my imagination I'm thinking

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of actually putting together, but in reality I probably won't

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do anything. I'll write down as I talk about it.

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What ideas do I have? All depends not working never mind.

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So I think one of the things that I would

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focus on if I would give advice to someone just

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starting out in a call center, I suppose it would

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be how to conduct yourself or what to be prepared for,

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what to lots of does and don'ts, and I did

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most of the don'ts. I did a few of the dues.

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I did enough of the dues to get by, but

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I did a lot of the don'ts. And some of

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the don'ts I suppose would be. I suppose in the

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course center environment, there's certain things you shouldn't do. Leaving

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wet socks on the radiator, that's a definite no no.

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So I've done that, This is true. And I used

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to get soaked soaked walking to work, So I take

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a spare set of socks with me and change into them.

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And how how else am I? Yeah, I suppose this

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thing's silly now, but yeah, at the time, you didn't

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go down very well, didn't go down very well other things.

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I mean, someone, this is a little bit gross. But

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I realized that in some call centers are so strict,

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or it used to be. It's probably got worse. To

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be a fair, it's got more strict. I can't mention

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it was going in the other way, because it definitely

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wasn't going in there. Yeah, it was definitely going towards

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being really regimented and watching everything you do, everywhere you go,

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every time you're on the phone, every time you're off

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the phone, how long you're on a break for things

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like that. You know, the first time of time I

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had a job in a call center, I could just

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take a little break and no one seemed to notice

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or bother about it. And remember the last time. So yeah,

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sort of fifteen years later, in the last Seals job

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I had, I was on people knocking on the cubicle

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door saying he came back to work. At some point

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I'd look under the under the well. Sometimes I just

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open the door, say what so don't it's open? Just coming,

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they're coming, Like I thought you, I thought you'd be finished,

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and you ever trousers up, said well you're the one

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wearing a gas mask and the hassle you. Ah, why

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are you in your dinner on a toilet? And I

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was like just really getting in your Yeah, but like

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it's my business, don't bother me. There's certain things you

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can't do. I would sort of put like a list

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of things not to do in the call center environ

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meant I'm trying to think of some other things. You

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have to be a lot more careful now. Verbally, I

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mean there was a time when you may find it

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hard to believe that sometimes I might not say the

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right thing occasionally, and you've got me a little bit careful. Yeah,

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don't lend money. It's another thing. Don't lend money to

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someone that's just been sacked. You ain't going to see

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that money again. That happened to me once. I mean,

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it's this lady got on really rover like I did

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most of the people I worked with, and she got

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fired because she wasn't selling. And she said, oh, can

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you lend me ten pounds I can get a bottle

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of wine, and yeah, sure, I'll get back to you later. Yeah, okay,

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I generally thought she would. No, I didn't see her again,

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and I want him. I did no guard your blinding.

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There was one. Yeah, I did see her again. She

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was this is a few years later, and she was

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it's like a country road. I was someone else's driving,

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so I don't drive, and going down a country road

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and I saw this thing, these things in the air

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like moving around. Of course, sat and there was a

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horse in the ditch upside down right, which is something

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you don't see very often. We're going its legs and stuff.

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And when we stopped laughing, we got out of the

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car and we sort of like, that's strange. I didn't

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realize there was someone We're not underneath, but you know,

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kind of trapped a little bit, just not not in

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a bad way, just just a torso and no, just

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like you know, underneath the horse a little way, but

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not not injured or anything. I heard this voice, and

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I've got quite good memory for voices, and I said, Steve,

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is that you? And she said no. I said Robert,

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She said no, Andy, she said no, she said Zoe.

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At this point, she's actually looking at me because I

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could see, well, I'm pointing. I'm just like a few

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inches away from her face, but I was looking. That's

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why I find the best way to look is by

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actually focusing your eyes on the object. And because my

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eyes sighted and so good, I have to get a

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little bit closer. But she's saying, can you move back

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a bit? I said, okay, sorry, what hi? Zoe? Are

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you right? He said yeah? I said, how good, I'll

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see you see I'm not am my Look look I'm trapped.

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I said, oh, yeah, you're only ten pound. Can I

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get my ten pound back please, she said, no, I

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don't have it. She said. I said, oh, okay, no worries. Well,

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don't worry. We're going to go and I'm just going

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to I'm going to call you, get help for you

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on a call up and get help for you. Okay, Yeah,

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they'll be here soon. Don't worry. Bye, see ya. I

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don't know how she got on. I didn't call any help,

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just oh I did. No, I didn't. It was made up. Nothing,

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nothing happened. Bicycles sell. Why would I talk about bicycle bells? Now?

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How much I'm going to talk, I'd like to spend

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a whole hour talking about bicycle bells. The hole in

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bread dust motes. I don't know what dust mote is.

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The exact moment of kettle reaches boil water, finding its voice,

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then settling again. It's like it's making its own jokes

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up the fridge light that lives its whole life waiting

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for the door to open, or parking, lots of seagulls,

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of patrol in land, tarmac like this safeguard and an

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invisible shoreline. This is not me. This is chat EBT

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coming up with this stuff that is not what I

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meant When I said twenty strange Monday and everyday subjects,

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I means socks. Okay, I mentioned socks, street lamp halos

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pulling on wet pavement as if each podle has its

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own private moon. It's getting a little bit fragrant, a

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little bit cocky lately, chatch ebt, I found get a

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little bit full of itself. Stationary escalators when broken, that

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transform instantly from effortless ride to challenging staircase. That's true.

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That is very true, isn't it? Because they're not easy

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to walk up? Are they? Because the escalators when you

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have to walk up them, they're a little bit too high,

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a little bit too high. I don't know why to

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make them so high, you know, I quite like the

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escalators that you get in airports that just go flat,

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you literally just standing on them for half an hour,

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Like wow, why can't we have these everywhere? Why can't

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we just have them everywhere? Literally? Just who wouldn't need

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a buses? You know for short journeys or even you know,

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I mean, if it goes fast enough, it might be

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outside for an hour, but you could get to town

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maybe in an hour, hour and a half perhaps, you know,

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just for people that maybe have a seat. If you

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want to have a seat, you're said, it's the same

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as having a bus or a train or a tram.

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But the escalator is you know, once you're on there,

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they can go fairly fast, can't they. Because you can't

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providing it's got safety, you can't go anywhere, can you.

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It's not like you can fall off, unless of course

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you know you can fall off. But I think the

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main thing I would say in this book is, as

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in dos and don'ts, one of the main things. This

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is the big difference that I found because not only

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did I do sales, I also listened to phone calls.

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And I was listening to phone calls in the very

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first job I had in two thousand and one. Well,

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it was two thousand and two that I was listening

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to the calls and two thousand and three, And that

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was mainly because I wanted to find out what other

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sellers are doing. I wanted to find out what their

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secrets were and what they were saying that was getting

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them all as sales. So I used to listen to

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the top seller who was called Jodie, and he was

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great on the phone. You can't be you can't not

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be great and be the top seller, you know. So

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he was the only person something is consistently better than

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me sales wise. There was a few people that were

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really good as well, but I'm just he was head

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and shouldered really above everyone. And but I also listened

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to loads and loads and loads and hundreds and hundreds

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of calls, hundreds and hundreds when I was doing that

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as a living, listening to calls in the course center.

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And the one stand out shout out obvious difference between

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you on sales, the difference between someone who, let's forget.

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So you've got three brackets, right, I'm going to do

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a little thing. So you've got top sales or top sellers,

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so I forget. Then you know that's a different bracket,

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So forgetting them, and you've got the bottom the bottom sellers,

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which is made up of two categories of people or

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probably three. Actually this first of all is the people

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that are just starting out. And there's no reason for

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it for a new person to be a good seller

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because they're just learning. They're still learning about the product,

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they're learning a job. May never have worked in a

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core center before, so it takes people time. I know

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some people may have done it before, so they'd be

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good straight away anyway. So you've got the newbies, then

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you've got the coasters. So there's them ones which are

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basically they turn up. They don't care about a bonus.

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They're happy with the basic salary, which in sales jobs

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is usually fairly low. Oops. So some sales companies let

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them people get by. They leave them alone because they

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need to have the telephone calls answered. And those coasters

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the unenthusiastic people that are just not interested at all

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in the job, but they're happy to have a job.

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You know, they're not they're not a problem. They're good

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at what they do. These are the coasters. They're good

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at what they do. They're nice, probably nice to be around.

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They're pleasant, and they make this they make the environment

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a nice, friendly place. They're reliable and they turn up

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every day, don't have much sick time off, probably turn

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up in January beginning of January, with all their holidays

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written down for the year ahead, you know, very organized,

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and they're the kind of I suppose, really important people

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in a sense of a lot of the companies, they

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have contracts where they have to fulfill answer in a

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certain amount of calls and they get another company that

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sends the course to them. So it's you know, it's

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a lot going on there. So they're they're important, but

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ultimately they won't care. The newbies will care about you

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know what I'm about to say, The coasters got to

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be a little bit careful. The coasters start hassling them

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and then probably start to look for another job. Hassle

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those ones to get more sales because they don't care

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about the bonus. But they're happy to have a job.

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They just want to stress free, relaxing environment to work in.

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And you know, as I said, without them, they're the

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ones that can be relied on and they may stay

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for a long time. Then you've got the ones that

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are just that don't want to be there. So that's

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the fourth one on the bottom. People that don't want

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to be there. Don't want to be there. It's like

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a little lecture. It's like a Ted talk, a Jay talk.

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So want to be there for whatever reason. And if

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I don't want to be there, they're not going to

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be good sellers probably. I mean, it's there are those

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people that are just really good and while they're looking

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for somewhere else fair enough, but someone that's just coming in. Yeah,

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I've been one of them. I've been in that situation.

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I've been in the newbie situation four times. I've been

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in that don't want to be their situation one, two,

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three times, three times or four times, sometimes temporarily, sometimes

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to the point where I just had to had to

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get out or change department. And then you've got the

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other ones who, well, you've got another side, the incompetent.

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I don't mean this in a bad way, but they're

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just really bad at the job. It's not suitable for them.

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Not everybody's suitable for everything, are they. I mean, not

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everybody can be as perfect as as felt the same say.

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Yet some people just it's not it's not the right

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job for them. And and you get that actually can

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break that into different categories as well. So people that

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are incompetent, I don't like the word incompetent, but not

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very good at the job. I mean I was incompetent

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when I first started. So there's a lot of incompetent

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people in the newbies, but that's because they don't know

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what they're doing yet. But if after two months they're

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still incompetent or you know, a year there's still competent.

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Then they're the ones that won't probably still be working there.

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They're the ones that will be got got rid of.

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But then you can break that up because you've got

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incompetent people that are both. I've known people that really

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love what they're doing. They love it, they love doing it,

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and they will sell loads of insurance, but I do

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it wrongly. You know. There was this one lad he

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was he was selling selling car insurance and it turned

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out he had like a really really good week and

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it's sold car insurance to a van company, some haulage company,

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a delivery you know, and my company didn't ensure commercial vehicles.

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But he sold no normal personal car insurance to this

467
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:08.920
delivery company van which had like thirty vans, and he

468
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:15.679
ensured each of them individually. So he was you know,

469
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.639
he was super excited, and everyone was saying how good

470
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.199
he'd done. Because people didn't realize at the time until

471
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:31.159
the information kind of went through, and because at them days,

472
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:35.159
I think they didn't seem to check necessarily, and then

473
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.440
if there was a claim, they realized, well, you're not

474
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.719
covered because of the commercial vehicle. And then they're very big.

475
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:46.320
Who hah, I know I somedly did that and they

476
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:51.960
they got sacked for that. Someone actually got sacked the

477
00:42:52.079 --> 00:43:00.639
very first week I was working at church Hill Insurance Company.

478
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:04.800
I was in training and the trainer came in and

479
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:10.480
one of the managers came in that's it and told

480
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:14.519
us all that they've had to sack someone. Now, bearing

481
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.239
in mind, this is in two thousand and one, so

482
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:23.480
this is quite something that people were saying to each other,

483
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.719
you know at the time. Well, what happened is this woman,

484
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:34.920
the old man whoever it was that was on the phone, said,

485
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:44.280
we started being rude to the the course center staff

486
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:57.079
member started being rude. And I can't remember what he said.

487
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:22.920
What did he say? Oh, oh, I'm trying to find right,

488
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:29.000
So he's been this custom was being a bit rude.

489
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:35.320
So the person in the call senter said he had

490
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:42.159
enough and he said, okay, sorry about this, but you

491
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.239
are the weakest link. Goodbye, and he put the phone down.

492
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:52.360
She called back and they The weird thing about it

493
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.480
is the manager was laughing as he was telling us,

494
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:02.559
and we were laughing, and I was thinking, why would you,

495
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:04.960
Why do you really have to sack in for that.

496
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:09.199
I know it's it's unprofessional to do that to a customer.

497
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:17.960
I get that, but maybe move them into a different

498
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:24.119
department or give them put them back into training something

499
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:33.239
rather than getting rid of them. I don't know anyway,

500
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:39.639
that's that's that happened. And so you've got the people

501
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.119
that are just really kind of not very good at

502
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:47.760
the job or you know, like selling car insurance to

503
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:57.119
the wrong people. It's like people with minibusses and tractors

504
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:05.159
and stuff. And then you've got the people who I

505
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:09.320
think that's everything, the people who don't want to be there.

506
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:11.920
And you've got incompetent people. Yeah, that's kind of most

507
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:17.280
of the ones at the bottom. With the incompetent ones

508
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.719
training and it's more training, find out if they want

509
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.079
to be there, find out if they want to do

510
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:29.519
the job, and if they're enthusiastic teaching that newbies, they'll

511
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.360
be fine. There's always a percentage that won't and it's

512
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:38.199
just normal on it, but coasters need them. The ones

513
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:43.679
that don't want to be there, then they need to leave.

514
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:51.679
Because I've sat next to people that didn't want to

515
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:58.519
be there. It's hard, it's really really hard, really hard

516
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:06.559
to because they won't sell anything generally, and I've actually

517
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.719
sat next to people it's moaning the whole time. It's like,

518
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:14.039
come on, you've got to if you're going to do sales,

519
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.360
you need to have a degree of positivity, but a

520
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.039
lot of positivity in fact. But because you know, the

521
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:26.960
older big r is there all day long, the rejections,

522
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:28.880
you know, you have to get used to people saying

523
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:33.000
no and to still keep going, still keep talking to

524
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:37.800
them and you know, try and turn it around. So

525
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:43.639
the ones that genuinely don't want to be there, they

526
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:48.440
kind of have to be let go. It's a shame,

527
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:52.840
but they're they're it's it's not fair on everyone else.

528
00:47:52.880 --> 00:48:03.679
It's there, coasters providing their positive good newbies again, that's

529
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:09.199
just living it. And then the incompetent people if they

530
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.320
don't change, then of course they have to go as well,

531
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.719
because that could cost a company so much money and

532
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:19.719
a bad reputation. Now, then it brings you down to

533
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:27.760
the newbies and the coasters, and then you've got those

534
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.760
that with the newbies that's going to break up between.

535
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.320
People are going to be coasters. People are going to

536
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.679
just not want to be there. People that are end

537
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:41.679
up being top really good sellers. Now, the difference between

538
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.159
someone like a coaster or at the bottom, let's say,

539
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:56.719
not selling and selling especially something like a insurance or

540
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:02.679
a core center environment. The differences between someone being in

541
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:09.559
the bottom rank and in the middle the main difference.

542
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.679
Being in the top's a different thing, but being moving

543
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:18.559
from the bottom to the middle in sales only one

544
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:23.280
major thing, Only one main difference that I found after

545
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:29.480
listening to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of calls over

546
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:33.760
the years when I was doing that job, and that

547
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:43.719
is simply asking for the business, even if it's just so,

548
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:49.320
do you want it. The amount of people that are

549
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:53.119
in the bottom category I say bottom, you know, I'm

550
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:57.159
talking about sales wise, not human wise. The ones that

551
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:01.679
are kind of especially like the coast, a lot of

552
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:06.840
them won't even ask for the business. I remember hearing

553
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.480
one bloke saying, he said, so you don't want an India.

554
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.360
That was his sales tactic. You don't want it? To

555
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:18.119
hear sounds rubbish, don't it. He didn't say that, but

556
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:22.840
it's like you don't want it. I remember hearing one

557
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.000
person I think they were quite new actually, but they

558
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:32.840
gave the customer really good. Most people are pretty good

559
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.519
on the phones. Okay, like that would be a separate thing.

560
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:45.239
So phone voice, BlimE me, that's a whole that's a

561
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:50.679
whole bag of cockroaches. That is the phone voice. So

562
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:59.840
there was this one person I remember hearing them, and

563
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:05.480
they were saying, who did the quote? Perfectly good quotation,

564
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.679
got on really well with the person on the end

565
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:13.280
of the phone, that a person's got on with them.

566
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:23.360
They like, you know, it's very good report, and gave

567
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.519
a price which was way lower. It's like two hundred

568
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.239
pounds lower than what they were previously being quoted for

569
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:39.519
for the year. And the customer was saying, that's brilliant.

570
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:42.960
That saved me two hundred pounds. I've been phoning around

571
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.840
all day long and the best price I got was

572
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.079
fifty pound cheaper. You've got a two hundred pound cheaper.

573
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:54.039
That's amazing and it comes with a breakdown wow. And

574
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:57.199
you could tell that they were clearly break dancing on

575
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.000
the phone. You could just by the voice. You could

576
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.079
how that the man was spinning on his head. And

577
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:08.199
the salesperson just said, oh I can well, thanks by

578
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:22.559
It's like what thanks? According? Who's the sales job? Like,

579
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:27.920
it's thanks. I want to take it. No, that's all right,

580
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:33.039
I wouldn't take it farw you you let someone else

581
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:37.960
do it. It is amazing the amount of people I heard.

582
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:43.559
He's like, wait, do you want the reference number? You know?

583
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:47.039
What I did is a difference. Again, So the difference

584
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:51.480
is those that ask for the business and those that don't.

585
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.000
If you answer the business, if you don't answer the business,

586
00:52:55.159 --> 00:53:00.360
you're in the bottom the bottom right rack. What I say,

587
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:07.760
just by asking every single customer for the business, when

588
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:09.519
you get a good price, we'll just lay it that

589
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:12.480
when you get a good price, that puts you into

590
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:18.320
the middle bracket. Now to move into the top bracket,

591
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:23.119
you have to There's a lot more things you need

592
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:26.960
to do, but one thing, or you could say, let's

593
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:31.400
say there's a middle top between the middle and the top,

594
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.639
so another section, and that's the people that ask for

595
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:40.480
the business every time, regardless of price, regardless of how

596
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:44.519
much it comes up as anything. Why would you do that.

597
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.360
Someone has just said that the price for insurance is

598
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.599
five hundred and you come up at six point fifty.

599
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.760
They might have been lying, They might have been just

600
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:58.320
be teasing you, trying to get a cheaper price. They

601
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:02.960
might be unhappy with a car insurance currently, you know

602
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.000
there is it could be any kinds of things. So

603
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.400
also the benefit is it gets you used. This is good,

604
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:13.559
This is going to be a good book in it.

605
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.280
It gets you used to asking, because that seems to

606
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:20.639
be the biggest hurdle for people at work in sales

607
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:25.760
when they first start, is asking for the business. And

608
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.760
as I've listened, I listened to hundreds of calls. I

609
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.480
mean for the for about a year, what's a year

610
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:44.320
one two thousand and six, two thousands, two thousand and

611
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.159
four too fair far? For two thousand a year and

612
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:50.960
a half, that's all I did listening to phone calls,

613
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.679
but all day, every day, well you know, work working

614
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:57.360
hours for a year and a half, listening to phone calls,

615
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:00.800
listening to sales calls as well as other departments, but

616
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.000
mainly mainly sales. So I've listened to so many calls,

617
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:10.519
and I've heard some of the weirdest things as well,

618
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:14.760
plus my own phone calls that I've done, and also

619
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.039
listening to other people on the tables around me as

620
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:24.280
well as in the other job, in the first sales job,

621
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.440
actually listening to people's calls because I was allowed to.

622
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:31.480
I'm not quite sure they just let me because I

623
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:39.360
was one of the top sellers. So ask every time,

624
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:46.639
ask for the sale every single time. And it's not

625
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.519
just you know, so would you like to say that

626
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.039
even if it's I used to, it's more fun if

627
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:58.840
you get a price it's like seven seven pounds. They

628
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:01.280
say it's a twenty one year old and they've got

629
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:04.760
you know, they've got a car that probably cost them

630
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:07.960
five hundred pound, but it's one of the most expensive

631
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.039
cars to ensure for a twenty one year old or

632
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.960
seventeen year old, and you give them the price that, yeah,

633
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.079
it's going to be four and a half thousand pounds,

634
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:21.760
so you want to take that and it's fun. It's

635
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:25.119
not fun giving someone a horrible high price, but it's

636
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.840
fun because it makes them laugh as well, because sometimes

637
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:33.079
the price is so ridiculous, just because maybe the company

638
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:36.000
you're working for doesn't deal with those kind of people,

639
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:39.119
doesn't deal with young drivers, or doesn't deal with expensive

640
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:45.280
fast cars more aimed at the middle aged bracket. You know.

641
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:57.360
So there's that, and then j J talks, so the

642
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:02.760
Ted talks, Wow, again, you've got the top sellers, So

643
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:08.119
you don't say do you want to take that? You

644
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:13.079
go from asking, so you go from not asking it

645
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:17.840
all at the bottom in the middle, asking when it's

646
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:21.360
a good price, because it's it's hard to ask when

647
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:24.000
it's a crap price when you're just starting out. It

648
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:28.400
really is, it really is. I mean, I don't blame

649
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.199
people for not asking at that point, but you can

650
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:35.519
skip the middle bit by doing that. It's a confidence thing,

651
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.800
I suppose. And then secondly, then you get to the

652
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:43.360
top the middle between the top, the middle and the top,

653
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:49.159
so that bracket which is asking every single time, So like,

654
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:53.519
go ahead with that or should we get that set up?

655
00:57:56.519 --> 00:58:00.760
Horace is here, he's on the window still outside. Oh Horace.

656
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:06.639
Horace has been visiting me for ten years now. He's gone,

657
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:12.519
just a little visit, just like says hello, right Jay,

658
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.960
Now to get up to the top a sales bracket.

659
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:19.440
This isn't the only thing you do, but this is

660
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:23.519
where the difference is. You don't not only do you

661
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:28.280
obviously you ask for the business. Not only do you

662
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:31.119
also ask to the business regardless of whether it's a

663
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:36.440
good price or not. You don't say, would you like

664
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:41.599
to get that set up. I mean you can, but

665
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:46.480
generally you would say do you want to do that

666
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.679
on direct debit or just do it on a card.

667
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:54.119
Now you know, you give them an option direct debit

668
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:59.800
or card, and that assumes you assume they're going to

669
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:03.719
take it. Regardless of the price, you assume they're going

670
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:07.960
to take it. That's the difference between the top sellers.

671
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.000
It's not the only do it's a lot more, but

672
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:15.920
that's a big difference between the different brackets. You assume

673
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.559
that they're going to take it all the way through,

674
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.400
and everything you say to the customer is based upon

675
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:29.719
you assuming that they're going to take it. And part

676
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:33.800
of that is having that belief system that you're the

677
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:37.679
best company, you have the best insurance, the best cover,

678
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:42.599
and they'll be looked after. Now, that only works if

679
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.400
you believe it to be fair, unless you can fool yourself.

680
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:51.280
It worked with Churchill because they really were a good company.

681
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:55.519
I generally believed in Churchill, not that I didn't believe

682
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.639
in the others, but it was much easier because I

683
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:10.360
knew how good they were, so asking or assuming they're

684
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:15.199
going to take it, and you'd be amazed at how

685
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:19.239
many times the price comes up high and people say, okay,

686
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:24.960
rather do a direct debit when it's come up at like,

687
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.079
you know, a lot more than what the price they said,

688
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.199
because you'd have written down the price on a piece

689
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:32.320
of paper, you know, just to remind you of what

690
01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:35.920
you're looking to aim to get under if all possible.

691
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:41.440
And there's two reasons for that, well, three reasons. I

692
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:46.079
suppose I love my little categories, do I. So the

693
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:50.559
first reason is perhaps they fibbed about the price to

694
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:55.800
start with, and it is a good price that you've got, okay,

695
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:59.960
for whatever reason, so maybe you have beaten the price.

696
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.960
The second reason is they might really like you. Now

697
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.239
they're not going to spend hundreds and hundreds of pounds

698
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.320
more in insurance if they just because they like you.

699
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:15.920
Possibly they might, but generally not. But you know that's

700
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:17.920
going to be a reason because they like you, and

701
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:20.079
they might think they'll pay a little bit over the

702
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:23.119
odds they don't care. They might have forgotten how much

703
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:29.239
the other quotes was. And the other reason could be

704
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:36.440
simply that they're fed up phoning around. They don't want

705
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.480
to go through it anymore. And that used to be

706
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:42.159
one of my tactics. I'd make the phone call. I

707
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:44.480
didn't do this on purpose, by the way, but I

708
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.320
would have the longest phone calls of anyone. Sometimes my

709
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.119
phone calls would last forty minutes an hour. I had

710
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:55.639
one lasted an hour and a half. I literally got

711
01:01:55.639 --> 01:02:00.360
in trouble. I got taken into the office, looked at

712
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.239
your They didn't know at the time, they're not weren't

713
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:06.440
taking much notice. They said, you were on the phone

714
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.840
for an hour and a half. Was that Was that

715
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:13.559
a sales call? Or was it you just phone in

716
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:18.760
your family? I mean, what are you doing? And I said,

717
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.480
and I pulled out of my form, said, so who

718
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.840
got the top sales conversion in that week for that month?

719
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.119
And it was me who got the most call to sales?

720
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:38.320
Me who got the most quote to sales? Me. So

721
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.840
I might not I might not get the most sales,

722
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:45.840
although I did get the most seales sometimes, but I

723
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.400
was still right at the top. But no one beat

724
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:55.239
me on quote to sales or called to sales consistently.

725
01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:00.239
I mean it might be the odd week or so.

726
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:03.159
So yeah, I might have only taken I might have

727
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:10.679
got so for every four calls I get sale, what

728
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:15.920
every four quotes I get sale? Other people that were

729
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.000
doing really well sales, they'll get a conversion of maybe

730
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:24.800
thirteen percent. And in my second sales job, I was, actually,

731
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:27.639
this is turning into bragging, isn't it. I don't mind

732
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:31.679
the third the second job, I'll mentioned this before. The

733
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.079
managers were in a meeting with the head manager of

734
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:38.679
the building of the whole company who'd come from a

735
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:43.559
different branch, and they came in and they said, the

736
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:46.800
overall manager of the one I was working in, he said,

737
01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:51.920
we've just been talking about you over lunch. That had

738
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.000
a big, old long lunch, you know. I said, really,

739
01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:00.639
is it about the socks and they said, yes, that's

740
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.239
that's something we'll talk about with HR. But no, this

741
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:09.840
is something separate, and we were just decided that you

742
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:16.639
are the perfect employee for sales. I said, really, because

743
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:21.719
that surprised me. I'm thinking life. They knew that they

744
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.639
knew about all the stationary I was stealing, they probably

745
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:29.599
think differently. And they said, oh, I said why, and

746
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:35.159
he said, well, it's based on it's not just on sales.

747
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.360
We've got people that sell more than you. I said, okay,

748
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:41.159
you're not really making me feel good right now, said,

749
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:43.760
They said, no, it's not not about that, but it's

750
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:50.800
about conversion. It's about customer satisfaction. How many times do

751
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:58.199
you have things come back complaints or you've sold you know,

752
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:01.719
car insurance to someone with a pane, you know, none

753
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:05.079
of that stuff. I said, okay, well was that once

754
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:11.840
and we laughed and sEH, you've got best conversion, got

755
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:16.239
really good conversion, really good quality calls is so well.

756
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:24.760
And you're also do everything correctly, like compliance wise, everything

757
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:30.000
every questions asked correctly in the correct way, no misleading,

758
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:33.880
even accidentally nothing. He said, if we could get everyone

759
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:39.440
to be like you, we would it would be a

760
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:45.400
much better company. Of course, we'd have to air a

761
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:48.039
place out a bit more and maybe cover the radio

762
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:51.079
is over with something to stop. I said, college, you

763
01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:53.159
have to keep talking about the socks and that was

764
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:56.519
mentioned about an hour ago. I mean, it's I suppose

765
01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:59.920
slightly amusing to mention something that I mentioned an hour ago,

766
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.800
and I managed to ease it back into the conversation.

767
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.280
I mean, there's there's a certain amount of skill involved

768
01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:11.960
in that, even though it was accidental. And he said, yeah, hmm,

769
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:16.960
you're mention in your podcast. I said, I haven't started

770
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.960
doing I wait a minute, I haven't I I just

771
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.400
remember and I had started doing podcasts at that point.

772
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:25.960
He said, yeah, yeah, haven't you. I said, yeah, but

773
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:27.679
I've not done I'm not doing the let me board

774
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.760
your sleep once yet. I'm just in fact, they're not

775
01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:34.760
even really cool podcasts at this point. They're just recordings

776
01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:39.440
I do put them on podcasts and on YouTube and

777
01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:44.000
on MySpace friends stuff, I don't know whatever. I was

778
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:50.440
around at the time, and yeah, that was weird. So

779
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:55.079
what else? So they're the things you should see this

780
01:06:55.159 --> 01:07:00.000
piece of paper. It's brilliant. So there they're signing my

781
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:06.280
simple things. Ever talking to the customer though, right, the

782
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:09.039
amount of people that would start and be like they

783
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:15.360
put a telephone voice on, Hello, how are you today?

784
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:19.800
Are you okay today? Can I help you today? And like, no,

785
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:26.760
stop that, stop it now. You doesn't need to be natural,

786
01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:30.480
just talk naturally. A bit clearly has to be clear.

787
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:33.920
But also, you know, it takes a while. It took

788
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:37.760
me a while to start to be able to understand

789
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:41.800
all the different accents because I was getting phone calls

790
01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:45.400
from literally all over the world or people from all

791
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:51.800
over the world, and there's some really strong accents out

792
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:58.239
there around this country. So I was able to manage

793
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:04.360
it quite well. I was able to You kin't have

794
01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:11.559
to open your ears up a little bit and just focus, really,

795
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:17.319
I suppose just focus on what they're saying. But then

796
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:25.479
there needs to be, if you say, well, being positive, yeah,

797
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:38.119
but also needs to be an expectation that everyone's calling

798
01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:44.760
to get insurance from you. Just expect it. Expect everyone

799
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:49.520
to take the insurance. Not in a way that you'd

800
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:51.960
be disappointed if they don't or when they don't, because

801
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.800
not everyone's going to take it, but just expect it

802
01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:00.640
and include that. You add expectation into the phone called

803
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.039
all the way through. So when we get this set

804
01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:06.359
up for you, and you know you're also talking about

805
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:12.079
breakdown cover maybe or windshield cover like windscreen. You know,

806
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:15.000
it's amazing with the insurance they don't even have to

807
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.119
replace the wind screen anymore. Just put a little carry

808
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:23.319
bag over it. It's brilliant. That wasn't really an exact

809
01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:35.359
scientific fact, but just include stuff. And there's certain things

810
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:38.640
some salespeople are really good at. I was never any

811
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:46.760
good at this, but they would really get updated with

812
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:51.640
sports so that if they got someone on the phone

813
01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:58.960
and that was from Liverpool. They'd start talking about football,

814
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:03.119
maybe ask you know who you were? Are you like

815
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:05.760
Everton or Liverpool? Or it was a good game this

816
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:10.760
weekend was, wasn't it? Oh? Yeah, stuff like that. I

817
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:18.760
could never do that because I think I just, yeah,

818
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:22.039
I just wasn't my thing. I mean I could talk.

819
01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:27.399
What I'd do is talk about the weather and maybe

820
01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:29.800
talk about how I run out a tailet roll over

821
01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:34.840
the weekend. Yeah, just human stuff that that didn't go

822
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:36.720
down so well. So I didn't do that very often,

823
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:40.640
and I made sure that I had enough toilet paper.

824
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:45.560
I mean, I still remember my friend phoning me up

825
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:49.479
from his office, phoning me up saying can you call

826
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:52.000
the office please, and not answering the phone, and my

827
01:10:52.079 --> 01:10:55.000
phone's about to die because the battery's gone. I said, yeah,

828
01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:57.560
So I said where are you? He said, I'm in

829
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:01.600
the office. I said, yeah, something a toilet But don't

830
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:05.000
you just go into the office. He said, I can't

831
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:08.239
because I've un out a toilet roll. But I can't.

832
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:10.079
They're not answering the phone, and my phone's about to

833
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:12.279
die and I won't be able to get any toilet roll,

834
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:14.279
So can you please phone the office now? And asking

835
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:18.399
to bring toiletroll in. He was the boss of the

836
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:23.239
of the firm, so I phoned up. It was so funny.

837
01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:28.359
It was just really what a scenario. Everyone was just

838
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:33.199
laughing because it was just such a funny, funny moment.

839
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:41.079
Just yeah, wow. I remember once I was in one

840
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:43.279
of the thing he's hassling me. What are you hassing?

841
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:46.359
Before VINNI, I was in a toilet once and the

842
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:51.079
cleaner was having a bit of a breakdown, and it

843
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:54.359
was he mustn't have known I was in there because

844
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:56.479
there was I think three or four cubicles in this

845
01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:00.680
toilets was a call center, and so I was sitting there,

846
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:07.319
you know, eating the sandwiches, and all of his is

847
01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:16.600
bloke swearing, oh these messyre really shouting loudly and proper,

848
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:21.039
going on for about ten minutes. So I flush the

849
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:23.640
toilet eventually and walk out and he's just looking at me.

850
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:32.279
I'm pretty pretty certainly said sorry about that. It's weird.

851
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:39.840
Vinnie is right now hastling me to take him out,

852
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:43.800
which means I'm going to have to go. BlimE me.

853
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:48.560
I thought I was going to tell you more about

854
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.119
this book. I'm thinking this might be a good idea,

855
01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:59.560
you know, because something I know about, something that can

856
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:02.560
be use, can be adapted for wherever you are. There's

857
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:05.039
a few little sales techniques as well. I could add

858
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:07.680
a few little things that I've noticed. You can do

859
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.920
that I did, that you can do that I did

860
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:17.039
that you can do in it. Ah, I don't think

861
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:21.119
I've ever been this excited before. Vinnie is hassling me?

862
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:24.800
Why are you hassling me? Vinnie? Is it Archie? He

863
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:30.880
knows Archie is outside. Probably a right. Well, I'm going

864
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:35.399
so thank you for listening. It's been a bit of

865
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:39.439
a strange Let me boy you to sleep Monday. Boring

866
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:44.119
objects a bit different from usual, but hey, difference is good,

867
01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:51.560
I think sometimes. So thank you for listening. Remember to

868
01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.399
be kind to yourself because you do deserve to be happy,

869
01:13:56.520 --> 01:14:02.479
and be gentle with yourself. He deserved to feel safe,

870
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:11.199
not in love by