June 9, 2025

(music) Entrepreneur | Monday’s Boring Objects | LMBYTS #1369 | 9th June 2025

(music) Entrepreneur | Monday’s Boring Objects | LMBYTS #1369 | 9th June 2025
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Hello, and welcome to Jasonnewland dot com. My name is

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Jason Newland, who please only listen when you can safety

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close your eyes. What else? M What do I normally say?

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Shall I say something? Oh? Itchy? Got itchy? Side? Hello? Pinny?

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So this is let be buoy to sleep. Monday's boring objects?

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What could I talk about today? But you? If you,

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if you're not, if you're not prepared, No, I haven't.

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Why not you should be prepared? You are you not

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a professional? No? Caut yourself a professional? No? Why are you? Then?

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I don't know? You should know what you're doing. No,

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I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just plodding along

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hoping that I don't fall in a hole. Basically, So

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Monday's boring up jets. I'm going to talk about something

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that I've never talked about before. It's a part of

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my life that I don't think I've ever even mentioned,

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which may surprise you that i'd done over one thousand,

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three hundred recordings. And how could I have not mentioned?

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How can I be at least one thing that I've

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not mentioned because I've not exactly had an interest in life.

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So but there is one thing, and I was thinking

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about this earlier when I was on a toilet. I

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don't know what what I thought about it then, but

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there's selfie that I wanted to be. So I've got

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this is what the subject is going to be then,

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but I'll be talking about myself. But the subject is

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entred and entrepreneurship. That's the subject. That's the boring subject

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for today's Monday's boring object. So entrepreneurship or entrepreneurs Right

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from an early, quite an early age, I wanted to

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be successful in some kind of business. Clearly it never happened,

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but I kind of I don't know what it was.

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Maybe it was the idea of working for myself. I

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saw my dad, he was self employed, so he had

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a successful business. And I used to like watching del

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Boy on Only Fools and Horses, the ducking and diving

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and after daily ducking and diving. And I wasn't so

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big on the con aspect of that, you know, selling

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people cars that didn't have any breaks. That wasn't, you know,

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not really my style, but it made for a comedy show.

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So when I was in my I think my first

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delve into any kind of entrepreneurship, money making outside of

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working for someone else was probably when I was about thirteen,

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so yeah, I'm just trying to delve back to see

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probably thirteen. Yeah, so one of the things. So I

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started working, I think when I was twelve part time.

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I think twelve was the that was the minimum age

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to do a paper round. I think might have been eleven,

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but I think it was twelve, I think. And so hm,

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I get a little bit modeled up because I had

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so many different paper rounds. I had a morning paper

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round I hadn't eaten at different times, I had an

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evening paper round. I had a monthly delivering leaflets, and

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there was a fortnightly delivering these pamphlet things. I also

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worked in the bakery well as well as I also

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worked in the washing dishes in this restaurant, and then

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I worked in a bakery or a bakehouse they called it.

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So I started off working in the evenings just washing up,

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which is a cool job. Actually it was all right.

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So that was very busy, but it was okay. And

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I'd worked during the day, sometimes on a Saturday, and

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I think it was something like seventy five pence an hour,

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which may not seem a lot, but when I was

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twenty one or twenty two. Literally ten years later, I

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still was only getting about two pounds an hour, you know,

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so it was pretty you know, I was probably better

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off then than I was when I left school, so financially,

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I mean, but then I didn't have to pay rent

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or buy food, so I guess it was it was

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a little bit different. So forgetting the jobs I had,

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there was I don't know what it was, but I

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started to think, hmm, what can I do to earn

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some money. I don't know why I wanted to earn

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money because I knew I could do a paper around

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and I could I could get money. It wasn't a lot,

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but it was still you know, it was still okay,

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and I had multiple jobs going at the same time

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at times. Why I don't know why, but yeah, I

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just this this feeling, this need two do something too,

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I don't know, make something of myself kind of to

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be successful. It never happened, but you know, I kind

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of really was. I was going for it. So I'm

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not sure which order it happened. But I'll focus on

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what I did at school first, and then I'll talk

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about what I did outside of school when I was

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still at school, but what I did on the outside,

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and then I'll move into what I did once I

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left school. So this is how I worked this out

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in my brain. Okay, I categorized things, so I've broken

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it up into periods. So it's the period before I

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left school, those couple of years, three years or whatever

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before I left school. And then there's a period when

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I was working at a chip shop and when I

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left the chip shop. So that's a little period on

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its own, can you hear that plane. Then there's another period,

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you know, So I broken up into periods. So the

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period before leaving school is then broken up into different periods.

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There's the period, it's the things I did at school

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and the things I did outside of school, and then

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I break it in again into those things that at school,

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those things that I was getting money for, and those

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things that I was owed money for. So at school

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there was a few trends. One thing I realized is

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people kept running out of pens. So I bought a

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bunch of pens and I would sell them and I

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made a profit. But it was just it was never

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going to buy me my new jet, you know, So

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that was a little bit boring. I was walking around.

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I could walk to school with a whole satchel full

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of pens and come home and made like maybe fifty

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pence profit. It really wasn't worth it. And then but

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unfortunately the pens were rubbish as well, so that didn't

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really last. There was a reason they were so cheap.

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And then there was another trend. I mean, pens weren't

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a trend, but there was a couple of trends that

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I kind of jumped on. One was gob stoppers. Gob

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Stoppers became really, really really popular. And if you don't

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know what a gobstopper is, basically it just it's called

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a gob stopper because you can't talk when it's in

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your mouth. It's so big, and it's like a like

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a big ball. Actually, when you suck the ball for

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long enough, it it's got like maybe different tastes and stuff,

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and probably a little bit like what's his name, Willy Wonka?

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That wasn't they had a gob stopper, didn't they? That

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was different flavors of dinner and stuff. Anyway, in the end,

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in the middle of right in the middle of there'd

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be like chewing them, but it would take ages to

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get through it, and the teachers would confiscate it. They'd

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make you spit it out if you had one in

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your mouth, and they saw it, which made it more

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attractive to the pupils. You know. It was like a

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challenge to be able to get away with spending the

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whole lesson forty five minutes with that something in your mouth.

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But what happened is people, I think, what happened to

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you hear that year that? I don't think you hear

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that in a garden. I distracted me, all right. So

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what it was is I noticed that when when one

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kid had something, all the other kids seem to want it,

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mainly the boys, to be fair, but if one had it,

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others wanted it, but they couldn't have it because you know,

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he didn't sell gob stoppers. The teacher didn't have a

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supply to sell to us. I probably would have gone

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against education standards, possibly, But then I thought, hmmm, because

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I saw I had a friend who wanted who had one,

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and I said, can I have one? He said yeah,

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and he said it'd be a pound. And I think

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they cost like forty pence fifty pence to buy, maybe

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twenty pence to buy, you know, So I was like okay,

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and I thought, hmmm, So what I did is I

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bought about ten of these and the sales technique was

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just to basically walk around sucking or be in a

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classroom break tom is good because people want stuff and

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it's easier to you know, exchange money and stuff during

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a break rather than at class time. So I made

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a few quid doing that. Another friend of mine was

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doing the same thing as well. Actually, so it wasn't

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I don't think it was really my It wasn't really

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my invention really. And then another thing happened where there

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was this trend where it was chucking coins at a wall.

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So let's say two people would chuck pound coins or

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fifty pounds pieces against the wall and whichever one got

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closest to the wall would win the other person's money.

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That's the simplest way to explain it. Sometimes it yeah,

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it's exposed. It's a it's a similar to bowls, you know,

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where you've got to get the closest to the ball,

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to the white ball. You've got to get your bowls,

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so you'd kind of knock the other the other person's

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ball out the way. So it's a little bit like that,

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so you might bounce off the wall, but not the

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other person's coined further away from the wall, and people

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were losing what it nearly won every time someone lost,

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but then they'd like go double or nothing, double or nothing.

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And so I saw that people were getting they wanted

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to get their money back. And this is something that

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was happening every single break time, lunchtime, break two breaks

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and lunchtime every day for quite a while. I think

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it got banned in the end. Yeah. Yeah, that and

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the Ouiji bought that got banned, and the gangs. They've banned.

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The gangs as well. Went through a little phase of

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having gangs, the Wanderers, the Warriors, the Wongs, just because

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of the Wanderers movie. And I started my own gang

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called the Silver Eagles because no one wanted me to

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be in their gang. So I started my own gang.

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But I had I had the It was kind of

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like a misfits gang. And yeah, I went a bit wrong.

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So everything got banned because I had people in my

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gang that were actually acting like a gang. They didn't

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I don't think they realized it was just for fun. Yeah.

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So it's so then what I did is I thought

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people are losing their minds because they haven't got enough

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money to try and win back. So I started lending

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money because I had I had a couple of part

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time jobs, so I had I always had some cash.

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So I started taking like ten twenty pounds to scool

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with me. That's probably my life savings, to be fair.

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But and I'd have always like one pound coins. And

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I started to lend people money. And I had a

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little book I kept track of everything I'd had interest

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added on. I don't remember what the interest was. It's

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a long time ago, and I didn't realize how hard

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it is to do to be a money lender. Really,

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it's not an easy job. And I always thought, you know,

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you see these I mean it's many movies and TV

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shows and that I've seen, you know how money lenders

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operate in later years, you know, sort of like how

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they can be quite quite naughty, you know, when it

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comes to getting their money back. But after doing it

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for a little while, I realized that people will make

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they will take the whatever you want to call it,

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as much as they can. They will avoid paying it

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sometimes outright they like say nope, you're not getting it back,

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and it leaves you know, once one person does that,

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then the whole thing's gone. Now this happened to me.

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Someone decided they weren't going to pay me back. So

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I collected and I got a friend to come and

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he collected it for me. And I disliked the whole

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situation so much. It wasn't like awful, but it was

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very much. Yeah, I stopped it before it got our hand,

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and then that's when I realized that life is not

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for me. You know, a little bit of a little

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taste of that. It's like, no, over like two pound fifty,

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you know what I mean. It's like, no, it's really silly.

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Because my friend was My friend was saying, I'll give

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the money. You need to own the money. I was

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in the toilet at school and this kid was saying, no,

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you ain't getting nothing, and he did in the pain.

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But it just wasn't wasn't It just wasn't for me.

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It wasn't for arm even my friend, because he's like, no,

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this isn't really what I want to be doing. So

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I think that was a good thing that it taught

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me that that sort of lifestyle was not for me.

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I'm a bit I guess it's the word vanilla would

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be a little bit, a little bit peaceful. I think

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just had a bit of an interruption. Then someone knocked

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on No, they didn't knock on the door. They knocked

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on the phone. They rang on the door. They rang

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me up. That's it, Oh kay? When I was I

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talking about? What was I talking about? When earlier? But

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what was it? It was something hmm, pens, gobs, stoppers,

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coins against the wall, money lending. I didn't go really

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to plan change of mind with that stuff, and I

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think that was the end of my entrepreneurial career at school.

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That was it for school thing. Outside of school, I

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had three different businesses that I started. And by businesses,

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I mean I put postcards in the local shop window.

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That's what I mean by businesses with my telephone number,

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my home telephone number. The first one. There was three

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different ones. There was one for car cleaning, there was

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one for wait a minute, what was it car cleaning?

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Dog walking? And there was another one for looking after

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kids babysitting. Now, I used to babysit my little brother,

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so I kind of knew my way around being a babysitter.

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So I thought, oh, maybe I can do this, Maybe

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make some money out of it, because I was getting

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nothing for looking after my little brother all through the

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summer and in the evenings and like between school to say,

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evenings between school and like six o'clock, I was looking

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after him, and yeah, I just it was quite easy. Well, yeah, generally,

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so I thought maybe I could make some money out

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that I didn't get any I might have even put

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an advert in the local paper as well. I didn't

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do any leaflets. Didn't make any leaflets at this point.

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I don't think I did. Maybe I did, but I

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think it was mainly just and if I remember rightly,

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it was just one news agents that I put my

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postcard in the window. Maybe I did it in two

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I'm trying to think of the different places in town.

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There was definitely one place where I used to have

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my paper around anywhere else in town where was there

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another news agents? There was one down the seafront, and

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there was one on the way to my AND's house

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where I used to live when I was eight. Mm

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hmmm mmm.

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That's the only ones I can remember as far as

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the news agents go in that town. There probably was others,

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but not like within where I would go. Oh no,

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that was there a news agent's. Yeah, there was a

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news agent's, of course there was, which was not near

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where I was talking about it. It was near where

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my dad moved to and I lived with him for

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a little while. It was opposite the co op, and

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it was it was kind of weird because it was

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it was next to a laundrette, and then next the

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laundrette was a hairdressers and opposite that was the co op.

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So it was like there was three shops, well the

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laundrette to three buildings with three commercial businesses. So if

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you was standing outside the co op that I worked in,

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looked across the road on the left hand side, was

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was it what gate road? BlimE me, I don't know

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if that's that's come into our mind. It might be

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the road. So there's this newsagent's quite a spacey shop actually,

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and then there was the laundrette, and then there was

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on the right hand side there was the women's I

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think it was like a hairdresser's because in the end days,

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you know, it's a little while ago, hares would quite

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often just be for females, barbers would be for men,

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but then some hairdressers would have different sections, one for men,

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one for women. Not. It wasn't so much segregation. It's

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just unless it was because I went to a hairdressers

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that had a men's section and there was a women's section. Yeah,

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for some reason, I got to get Yeah, I had

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my haircut and a women's section once because I had

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a perm. I know, it's a half perm. I was

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still at school, so I had a half perm because

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because I've got no idea, because I was fifteen, I

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guess fourteen fifteen seemed like a good idea. It was weird,

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really because I also dyed my hair dark brown. They

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might think, what's weird about dying your hair dark brown

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and having a half perm. This are two different, separate,

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different separate occasions. Well, firstly, my hair is already dark brown,

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so that was a bit pointless. And once my hair

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got past a certain length, it went curly. Anyway, I

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got naturally curly hair. I just I guess it has

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to get to a certain length before it goes curly curly.

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I'm talking about what when I used to have a full,

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sexy head of hair. Yeah, the same hairdresses that I

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got my I think I did the coloring. I colored

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my hair from a box you know, you know from

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the soup, but I don't know hair dye, I guess.

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So I did that myself, made a mess of it.

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I had a big Yeah. It was a bit weird

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out school that day because it does it doesn't just

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dye your hair if you leave it, it dyes your

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skin temporarily at least, And so I was going to

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I was, honestly, I was like, the teacher said, you

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can't come to school with black face. I'm not, you know,

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because in that in that day, it wasn't it was

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okay to do that, but it was crowned upon even then.

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But I said, I'm not. I wouldn't do that stuff.

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It's so we'll take it off what you've got makeup on,

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so it's not it's dye. I've literally it dripped down

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my face. I was told to sit with it for

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an hour or whatever to let it soak in. So

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I thought I'd do it for two hours because it

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would definitely be done, and then rinse it off and

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then but it didn't say anything about my face. And

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the teacher said, were you not aware that it was

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all down in your face? I said, yeah, but I didn't.

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I was focusing on my hair. He said, don't you

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ever wash your face? I said this, yeah, I have done.

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It is what do you mean you have done? Do

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you not wash your face every day? And I said,

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where you asked? I don't ask you personal questions. I

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don't ask you whether or not you flush. What do

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you mean whether or not I flush? I said, I

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don't ask you if you flush your toilet when you've

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done a pooh. I said, well, everyone does. But I said, so,

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I don't know if that have done if you do.

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He said that you're just saying this, Jason, to distract

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the listeners from the fact that you said blackface earlier.

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I said, no, it's a term that people use. It's

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not a term I use. But it's a term that's

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used for someone that like puts like ground paint on

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their face, and it's not acceptable anymore. It was in

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the eighties. He said, we're in the eighties. I said,

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oh no, but just getting confusing. You're talking about my

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listeners in thirty forty years time. But we're now in

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nineteen eighty four and things are different now. He said, yeah,

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I know. And I said, but that's not what I

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was doing. It Literally, it's stained my face. He said,

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are you sure? Said you can see it, try wiping

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it off. He said no, I don't want to touch it.

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I said, that is it because of the health in

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guidelines and child protection? He said, no, you just look dirty.

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You just smell bad, and I don't want to I

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don't you look like you might have fleas? I said, well,

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you can't say that to me. You're a teacher and

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he said I'm not a teacher. I said, what do

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you mean you're a teacher. You're here at the oh

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he said, I'm the janitor. Why would the teacher be

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cleaning the toilets? I said, oh, I did wonder about that,

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which brings me to the next question. Why are you

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asking me if I flush? You literally see me flush

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every day when you see me. Why are you hanging

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around the toilets anyway? And I said, well, that's what

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I was thinking about you now I know you're a cleaner.

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He said, what's your excuse? I said, I don't have one.

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And I said to him, be honest with me, mister janitor,

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do you feel we've managed to move away from you

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know what I said earlier? And he said no, I'm

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not sure if it. Maybe everyone's forgotten, I said, I

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don't know, because it wasn't used in a derogatory word way.

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It was literally just used inner to someone thinking I

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was doing that and I wasn't doing that. I said, yeah,

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but it's the term. It's just not a nice term.

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I said, but I wasn't using that term. I don't

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use that term. But that's what the newspapers use. Well,

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that's what the news uses when a celebrity comes out

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and does something like that. I mean, you remember Ted

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Danson in the early nineties when he was dating Whoopi Goldberg.

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He painted He went to a fancy dress party and

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painted his face a different color and he got into

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a lot of a lot of trouble. Wow. The Jena said,

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how many people listening to this podcast do you think

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are going to actually remember that Whoopy Goldberg and Ted

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Danson used to date. That's a blast from the past.

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How do you remember things like that? Well, more importantly,

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why do you remember things like that? I said, it's

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always handy to get me out of trouble. I can

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use it as an example because of someone like Ted Danson,

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who was he was a legend, he is a legend.

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Star of Cheers, being in loads of movies, loads of

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TV shows. He is a legend, and he's still a

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legend now and he still makes good TV shows now,

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even though he's in his nineties or whatever. And at

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the time he was dating Whoopee Goldberg, who was also

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arguably one of the most famous actresses in Hollywood at

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that time, huge star, and she didn't obviously didn't care

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that he was putting makeup on. He said, ah, the

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janet said, what do you think about would be Goldberg now?

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Then I said, what do you mean? Well, she seems

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to come up with quite a lot of criticism ever

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since doing that view show. We actually have a TV

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show based on that in the UK called Angry Women,

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Not Angry Women, Moaning, not moaning women, Wicked Women. I

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told you it's got a name. It's been shut down anyway,

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speak they've took it off air. Moaning not Moaning. I

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used to watch it was quite good. There's a few

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presenters on it that I really liked. Women Something Women,

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and it was kind of a copy of the view

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I think the view was first, but it might not

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have been. But anyway that the janet was say, or

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what do you think about Whoopi Goldberg now, I said, well, so,

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what you don't realize is I was a fan of

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Whoodpy Goldberg before she was famous. He said, no, you

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wasn't You weren't a fan of it. I said, yes,

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I was. See Whoopi Goldberg did comedy before she was

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an actress, and she had a hit stage show on

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Broadway which was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

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I wouldn't I say, I see it. I had it

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on a video and I also had it on album

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as well. I still can't remember what it was called.

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But it was phenomenal. It was funny, it was insightful, intelligent,

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She did different characters as one as a one woman show, brilliant,

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and I think she won Bafters or whatever. She wre

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loads of awards for it, and that's what That's what

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got her into, I guess, into being on TV and

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being in movies because I was such a big stand

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up fan and I collected albums and comedy. I did

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to start doing it again, don't I I just start

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collecting having a comedy collection. I like collecting things. I

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like looking at them. So if I had a row

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of comedy DVDs, all along the wall. I'd look at

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them and think, oh, look at them. They're all comedy DVDs.

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I collected them. I spent ten years collecting them. And

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it'd have to be specific and don't have to be

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all stand up, and it'd be in groups. So maybe

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i'd have Maybe that's why I categorize things memories in groups,

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because it's a very librarian kind of way to do things,

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which means maybe I should have been a librarian. That

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didn't you know. I used to work in this children's charity.

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And this is when I was a counselor at the

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charity as well, and I couldn't work there anymore because

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of the It was just the working environment was not

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very nice. But I still stayed as a counselor. Part

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of my job when I was there for eight months

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I was there was to do admin pretty much, just

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to be on the reception. That was my job. There's

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more to it, I'll tell you one day. But it

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wasn't good. It was not good. But one of my

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roles was to alphab to organize is the files by

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alphabetic or order? Okay? So I left in two thousand

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and eleven August. I went back probably about twenty sixteen,

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maybe two thousand seventeen, maybe twenty eighteen, it was around

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that time. It was quite a few years later looking

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at maybe doing some voluntary work there because I did

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volunteer work before, and I liked being a voluntary volunteer,

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just didn't like working for them, And because if you volunteer,

468
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.639
people can't. They might try it, but they can't be

469
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:46.360
route here, you know, they can't. They dislike they have to.

470
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:55.320
I say, they have to. But generally volunteers hold all

471
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:05.039
the cards really, you know, so a manager, supervisor, they

472
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:10.239
got no choice but to really be gentle and respectful.

473
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.199
I'm not saying that's always the case, but you know,

474
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.679
in my experience, that seemed to be the case. And

475
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.000
that's what it was when I was as a volunteer there.

476
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:26.960
Soon as I started working there, wow, I was treated

477
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:34.719
very differently. It was dark opposite. It's amazing considering it

478
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:40.559
as a charity for children. So anyway, I thought, maybe

479
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:42.880
I'll go and volunteer again. I was looking for some

480
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:49.159
vot volunteer places, get me out, you know, just to

481
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:55.239
do something. And so I go into this building just

482
00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:00.239
out of interest, like half hoping that the manager would

483
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.559
have gone moved on, got a different job, you know,

484
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.920
hopefully she wasn't there anymore, but she was there unfortunately,

485
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:11.800
but it was worth a try. So I went in there.

486
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.679
I'm talking to a man I've never met before. He

487
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.639
was in charge of the volunteers, so he was saying,

488
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:26.719
or we might have some volunteer work. And then in

489
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.960
through the door comes not the manager, she did turn

490
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.760
up later on, but a lady that I used to

491
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.719
work with that was in the counseling office. I used

492
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.760
to go really well with her. She came in. She

493
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.239
was the one that would give me, tell me what

494
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:50.480
I needed to do with the client files and the

495
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:52.920
alphabetical stuff, you know, where to put it and stuff.

496
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.440
She came in telling me that I had completely ruined

497
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:02.840
everything and put everything into the files in wrong alphabet unalphabetically,

498
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.639
and all it was is by surname, so you know,

499
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:13.440
it's it's like and I said, what are you talking

500
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.119
about it? She says, yeah, yeah, you just messed it

501
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:18.039
all up. She'd made it a complete nightmare because every

502
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:21.480
seven years, I think it was, they had to go

503
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.440
through all the files and get rid of anything that

504
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:27.719
was over seven years old. So they were going they

505
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:32.119
were now in that process again, having and I was

506
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.760
going through that process when I was working there, so

507
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.000
it was the next turn to do that. And she

508
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.119
was saying, you've made such a mess. Everything's in the

509
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:48.639
wrong order and under wrong alphabet and stuff. I said, well,

510
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.639
first of all, hi, how are you? Yeah, maybe say

511
00:42:52.639 --> 00:43:00.360
hello first? So they just moaning at me desperate women,

512
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:05.280
wicked women? What was it called? I can't remember? And

513
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.760
I said, are you sure that it was me and

514
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:14.280
not one of the many, many, many people that have

515
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:19.519
come and gone in the last seven years? Me? Come on,

516
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:25.239
how can you bear it in mind that the files

517
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:30.519
at the time, the seven years worth of files would

518
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:36.199
have been put in there? Okay, how can But I'm

519
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:38.920
the one to blame for the whole thing. It's like wow,

520
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:46.400
And I was amazed. It's like really, And the one

521
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:51.280
thing I can do, I can alphab better to lize

522
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:58.639
this is that makes sense. I know, I might have

523
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.199
to do it in my head or do it all

524
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:03.880
my fingers to figure out what comes before, but I

525
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:07.599
know A comes first. I know z's at the end

526
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:14.000
somewhere and M and then oh, they're kind of in

527
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:18.519
the middle. Ish BQ do you know? I might have

528
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:22.320
to work it out, but I know that the F

529
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:29.320
is after B. Just things like that. You know, I

530
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.239
don't need a chart on the wall for me to

531
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.880
look at it, but I know the alphabet. I can't

532
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:36.079
do it backwards. There's a lot of things I can't

533
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:42.440
do backwards. I can't do a wee way backwards. You know,

534
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.159
why would I what would do? When I can walk backwards?

535
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:50.480
But I will bang into things? Did you know? I

536
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.920
don't ever tell you The only time I ever ever

537
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:58.960
had a black eye in my whole life was when

538
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:06.559
I was walking home from school this kid. So I'm

539
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:11.920
like shouting at this kid, and he's looking at me,

540
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.719
and he bangs into a lamp post because he's distracted

541
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.280
by me. And I'm laughing my head off and I

542
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:24.440
turn around and I bang into a lamp post. Now,

543
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:28.599
back in them days, the lamp posts were concrete. They

544
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:30.840
weren't like metal like that are now not saying that

545
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:36.159
banging into a metal lamp post wouldn't be problematic, But

546
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.480
these were solid concrete lamposts. And my eye just so

547
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:53.119
Videy's looking at me. Do you like that sound? I

548
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:57.880
was so proud of my black eye my shiner. Really

549
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.280
really loved it. I don't know why it's called a shiner,

550
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.719
but I loved it. It's and it was like, really,

551
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:17.360
my whole eyebrow is like blue, so proud, and I

552
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.199
was like walking around like I've just been in a

553
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.280
big fight, and I was a big man. I was

554
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:27.760
probably about twelve, thirteen or whatever. Of the time, it's

555
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:31.400
like yeah, but unfortunately, my friend was just going around

556
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:36.039
telling everyone, Yeah, he walked into a lamp post. He'd

557
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:38.239
already told everyone before I got to school the next day.

558
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:45.719
So I'm walking around like a big I am and

559
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:52.039
everyone already knew. So people was saying, what happened to you?

560
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.000
Are you okay? I said, oh, you should see the

561
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:59.039
other person. And I said that a few times. Eventually

562
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.679
someone said, what the post, lamp post looked fine this morning?

563
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:10.000
Still standing up? Ah, how do you know? Dean told everyone,

564
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:14.480
really said yeah, we didn't tell everyone, but everyone then

565
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:18.559
just spread it around because he said that you're going

566
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.360
to brag about being in a fight and how you

567
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:27.840
beat up ten people and you know why you've got

568
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:34.199
a black eye because one of them got lucky. I said, okay,

569
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.079
I walked into a lamp post. What's wrong with that?

570
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:48.679
It's funny, but it's not huge to glamorous, is it. Yeah,

571
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.760
that's the only time I never I've been bruised. I've

572
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:57.960
had bruises and stuff, but I've never actually had a proper, full,

573
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.760
proper shiner time my life. I'd got one of them.

574
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:11.599
So yeah, I had my hair dark brown half a perm.

575
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:15.920
I never really understood what half a perm was, but

576
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:21.320
I was intrigued, very intrigued. I didn't know if it

577
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.119
was going to half my hair was gonna be permed

578
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.280
in our half would just be left. See. I didn't

579
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:33.800
realize when I was between the ages of twenty and

580
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:40.719
twenty four. Summer twenty nineteen ninety four, I grew my

581
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.239
hair long. So I had long hair all the way

582
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:49.119
down to my middle of my back for years. But

583
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:55.280
because my hair is so curly, it was almost impossible

584
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.320
to manage. I'd have it in a ponytail most of

585
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:02.880
the time. I didn't know that it was possible to

586
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:06.559
straighten hair. I could have strained it. It could have

587
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:10.000
been lovely. I could have still well, I wouldn't still

588
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:15.599
have it because I imagine my hair would have fallen out

589
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:18.599
much quicker if I had kept the ponytail, because it

590
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:23.400
really pulls on the roots then it So I did

591
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:25.880
think about growing my hair long just for the for

592
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:28.840
a laugh, really, just to see what it would look

593
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:47.039
like now being a bit mildly slightly marginally bald, how

594
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.400
it would work out. But I just never got around

595
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:53.239
to it because for some reason, the longer my hair

596
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:57.960
gets the border I look, which is weird because the

597
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:02.079
size get very curly. So what very thick curly hair

598
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.880
at the back, at the sides, not so much at

599
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:14.880
the front. There's there's it's kind of like looking down

600
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.119
on a forest. You know, you look down the forest

601
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.519
and it's like really thick forest. Then you get an

602
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:29.519
opening and on the on one side there's the like

603
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:32.880
bits of opening that's like the front of my hair,

604
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.079
and on the crown of my head it's like a lake.

605
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:41.559
It's that's just like an opening completely. That's that's kind

606
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:47.800
of what my head, the top of my head looks like. Yeah,

607
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:55.320
I don't know if that's a good visual. I did

608
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:06.239
have my hair bleached in nineteen eighty nineteen eighty eight,

609
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.719
I wanted to be like Bross, so my hair bleached.

610
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.599
Both my ears pierced I got a lot of attention.

611
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:16.920
I wanted a lot of attention and I was getting it,

612
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:25.400
but not for women, and I couldn't understand it. I

613
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.119
was with my friend and we were going and like

614
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.599
I said, right, all these men are chatting me up.

615
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:34.599
What was going on? And it turned out we was

616
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.000
in a gay bar. Didn't know. I didn't know there

617
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:41.800
was a gay bar in town. The reason I liked

618
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:44.599
it in there because it was friendly and it wasn't

619
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:47.760
like a gay nightclub. It was just a bar, but

620
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.960
it was run by a gay bloke, and the atmosphere

621
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:59.239
in there was really nice, really nice. There was no arguments, no, no,

622
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.199
it was just really nice. So I go in there

623
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.239
because some people I knew went in there and we

624
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.920
just have a chat and it was bright and it

625
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:11.280
was lovely. I didn't know it was a gay club

626
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:16.559
or a gay bar, brother, because back then it wasn't

627
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:20.880
official in a sense. It wasn't like an official gay bar.

628
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:26.920
It was just a bar run for I guess, for

629
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.039
his people that he knew, and for people to feel

630
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.480
comfortable going there. And that's one of the things about

631
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:35.800
I didn't know. I was going to talk about gay

632
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:39.639
bars but I've been lots of gay nightclubs over the

633
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:44.000
years when I was younger. The one thing, the two

634
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:47.599
things I noticed, one thing I liked, the one thing

635
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:56.039
I didn't like. I liked the atmosphere, just such a

636
00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:00.159
good atmosphere. Never ever seen trouble in a gay bar

637
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:02.880
or gay club. I'm not saying that it never happened,

638
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.639
but I never saw it. And you know, in London,

639
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.800
you go anywhere, you know what I mean, there's there's

640
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:17.400
usually something happens during the night. Nothing nothing happened. Ever

641
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:20.920
when I was out, they're probably all too busy checking

642
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:27.679
me out. And then the thing I didn't wasn't so

643
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:31.360
impressed with. And I don't know why this is. And

644
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:34.840
I've been in quite a few nightclubs during that period,

645
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:40.840
every single gay club or gay nightclub. Rather I went

646
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.280
to there's no lights in the toilets. I couldn't figure

647
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:48.800
it out. Like, how am I supposed to know where?

648
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:50.800
I remember saying, how I'm supposed to know where everything is?

649
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.159
And you just follow the follow the follow the sounds,

650
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:59.320
follow the noises. So does anyone know where the cubicle is? Like?

651
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:09.239
So here, okay, I lead you there? Like no it's okay.

652
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:11.760
Now I don't need you to hold my hat. Oh

653
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:18.280
you got lovely hands, Okay, but it's yeah, I remember, yeah,

654
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:20.760
I remember got a girlfriend from a game I once.

655
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.960
It was brilliant because it's that old you can't you

656
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.840
can't pick up women in a gay bar. It's actually

657
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.559
I think women were there the same reason I was there,

658
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:38.800
because it was a nice atmosphere. It was safe, unthreatening,

659
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:42.760
it was nice, just a lovely place. So I used

660
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:48.360
to meet women, well, particularly met one particular female, and

661
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.039
I'm sure she was there for exactly the same reason.

662
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:55.199
And we got on and we ended up dating, and

663
00:54:55.239 --> 00:55:02.679
we had a lot in common, you know, just chilled out,

664
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.760
didn't really want all that the hassle. You know, it's

665
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:10.800
quite nice to just she didn't want to be somewhere

666
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:12.679
where she's going to be hit on all the time,

667
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.679
and and I quite like being somewhere where I was

668
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:20.559
being hit on all the time, you know. And we

669
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:29.920
ended up going out, and yeah, I remember, she was it.

670
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:35.119
We couldn't go out, We kind of we had the

671
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.880
first night together on that night, but we did arrange

672
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:43.199
to meetach other the next day, and she phoned me

673
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:48.039
up and said oh. She couldn't meet me until later

674
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:51.039
on in the day because she had to get a

675
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.280
prostate exam. So I thought, okay, well we'll meet up

676
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.280
later on. And it was good. It was a nice

677
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:10.320
fromantic time. Yeah. Yeah. So one other things I My

678
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:18.119
next delve into entrepreneurship was probably when I was at

679
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:23.559
the chip shop because oh yeah, I did get a

680
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:33.400
couple of vocals for the child minding service or babysitting service,

681
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:41.199
and they all said the same thing, your boy, it's like, okay,

682
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:46.639
weird question. I said, yeah, all right, never mind by it.

683
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:49.639
In the end, after a few of these corners, I said,

684
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.679
wait a minute, what's the problem. I'm not leaving my kid,

685
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:57.840
little boy. We figured that you were if you're offering

686
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.480
a babysitting service, that you'd be female. I said, what

687
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:06.320
difference does it make? I said, I babysit my little

688
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.559
brother all the time. And ironically I didn't say this

689
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.480
to the person because I couldn't really predict the future

690
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:17.280
to him, but I would have said to him. What

691
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:20.559
I want to say to you is I had multiple

692
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:23.360
people asked me to babysit their kids as I got older,

693
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:27.079
because you know, when I was in a chip shop.

694
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:34.199
There was one, two, three, Three different people asked me

695
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:39.280
to babysit for them and they pay me. They give

696
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:42.280
me five quid or whatever. And it meant that they

697
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.239
could go out for a meal, they could go out

698
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.639
and do something, and I just turn up when they

699
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:51.320
were already in bed. So I'd just go watch TV,

700
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:56.960
watch a big, big colored TV and stuff. It was

701
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.360
easy just sitting there for a few hours. I said,

702
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:02.760
come back and I go home. Whether give me a

703
00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:06.920
lift home if if I you know, was if they

704
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:12.400
weren't drunk. So I did it a few times, and

705
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:17.280
I did it again when I worked in the co op.

706
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:23.760
I looked after my friend's kids. It's the babysit. I

707
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:26.320
think that was it, but no. I also I was

708
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:33.440
actually a childminder for probably about four months five months

709
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:38.079
when I was eighteen. I actually lived in like a

710
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:41.000
live in nanny. But all my only job really was

711
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:44.000
just to take her to school. The rest of the time,

712
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.239
I'd just be I'd be in the flat wise she

713
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:49.480
was in bed, so I'd have to just make sure

714
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.599
that she was safe, and she'd be asleep anyway, and

715
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:56.719
they'd be doing a night shift. So I did that

716
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:58.719
for a while and then I'd take Yeah, I'd take

717
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:02.079
her to school in the morning. That's it, and that

718
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:07.119
was it didn't I'm not sure. Maybe no, I didn't

719
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:10.679
pick her up from school. I think the mother picked

720
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:13.239
her up from school because she was up by then,

721
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.480
so she'd be in bed by seven, and then she'd

722
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:20.880
be up again, probably by two two or three two.

723
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:27.559
Probably the school was only around the corner. But I

724
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:33.639
couldn't really use that as a as a defense when

725
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:36.400
I was a kid saying to this person on the phone,

726
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.039
what difference does it make for my boy or a girl?

727
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.320
Just I didn't really get it, to be honest, I

728
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.039
didn't understand. I didn't see what the difference would be.

729
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:53.360
But yeah, I didn't get any work anyway. And then

730
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:56.719
when I was at the chip shop, it it got

731
00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:58.880
a bit silly because I had literally I was selling

732
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:03.519
my furniture just so I could get by, because my

733
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:08.159
dad had all my furniture and storage from my bedroom.

734
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:12.599
So when I got that flat, he moved in, you know,

735
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.360
as far as the furniture goes, Probably the TV. I

736
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:17.159
was thinking about it. I probably did get the TV,

737
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:19.840
so it was in storage. I was wondering the other day.

738
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:25.519
What happened to that TV? I got my bed, I got.

739
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:42.639
My wardrobe and bed wardrobe.

740
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:47.280
There probably wasn't much more. Probably maybe a chair. That

741
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:50.960
was about it. Really, there wasn't like a lot of things.

742
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:57.039
I didn't have, like huge amounts of belongings. I wonder

743
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:02.840
where everything went. I must have had some stuff because

744
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:08.079
it was in storage downstairs in the garage where at

745
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:14.320
my step man's place. I mean, all my weights and

746
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:21.239
my punch bags and all that stuff I sold before

747
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.599
I even moved into the flab of the chip shop.

748
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:26.559
So I didn't have any of that stuff anymore because

749
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:28.280
I wasn't able to use that for was a point

750
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:31.400
nevn if I can't use it, because at the time

751
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.000
I didn't know I was ever going to find anywhere

752
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:42.119
else to live. Yeah, So I got to the point

753
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:45.239
where I was sleeping on the floor on a mattress

754
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:53.280
in the living room, and I didn't really have any belongings.

755
01:01:56.079 --> 01:02:00.280
So I started to for what can I do. I

756
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.079
started to be a bit of a wheeler dealer, and

757
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:09.400
I knew some people that had stuff to sell or

758
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:13.159
stuff for me to buy to sell, and sometimes they'd

759
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.400
let me have it and I'd pay them once I

760
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:19.480
got the money from the person I was selling it to,

761
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:21.760
which is quite a good deal for me because I

762
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:24.599
didn't have any sort of cash to play with. So

763
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:26.440
I did that for a bit, sold a few little

764
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:30.199
bits and bobs sold a fridge freezer. That was probably

765
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:33.519
my biggest sale. I think I made about forty five

766
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:38.719
pounds for that, which was pretty much double what I

767
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.960
was getting a week in my pocket. So that was

768
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:48.760
quite a nice bit of money. What else then I got, Well,

769
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.440
I started doing it. I met a jeweler who was

770
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:54.199
one of the customers, and he was telling me that

771
01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:59.400
there was money and jewelry, and I think he was

772
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:04.599
kind of hired. He had a jewelry store, retired and

773
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:08.480
he'd been in London or something, but he still kind

774
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:10.400
of did a little bit on the side, you know.

775
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:18.400
So I talked to him and I was like, oh it.

776
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:20.840
Sometimes he showed me catalogs. I'd be sitting on his

777
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:24.719
lap and he showed me catalogs and bits of the

778
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:28.000
jewelryes and like said, well, you could the markup prices

779
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:34.360
for that, so you can you can spend one hundred

780
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:36.519
pounds on something to sell it for like maybe three

781
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:42.159
point fifty four hundred, because the more something costs, the

782
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:46.400
more valuable it feels to the person buying it. But

783
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:52.760
the markup is really high, and I thought all so

784
01:03:54.400 --> 01:04:01.079
I kind of looked into it, and again this man

785
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:07.159
decided he said he could sell me stuff. So it

786
01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:11.679
gave me a catalog. Again. I would buy the stuff,

787
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:14.800
I would sell it, and then he would provide me

788
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:17.840
with that and I would get the money for him.

789
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:22.480
So that's kind of I would order from him and

790
01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:25.880
sell it to people. Now, I sold a couple of rings,

791
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.440
but they didn't really go very far. It is only

792
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.559
so much you can do when you work in a

793
01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:39.719
chip shop, because it was quite hard for me to

794
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:48.159
present myself as successful to the people on the other

795
01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:53.400
side of the counter, the customers successful enough to depart

796
01:04:53.480 --> 01:05:00.679
with their money for jewelry when I I stunk of

797
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:07.960
fish and I was wearing just dirty were not dirty,

798
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:12.719
with clothes that were just horrible, and I, yeah, I

799
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:18.480
didn't I didn't really, I didn't fit the part. I

800
01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:20.639
got a couple of sales, but you know, it didn't

801
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:25.000
work great, but it was something, so I kind of

802
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:29.360
made a little bit of money. My friend came around

803
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:35.719
once with some a big black bag full of cigarettes

804
01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:44.360
and that was he. He had a friend who had

805
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.719
a friend and we were going to sell them in

806
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:51.400
the pubs, and so I stored them. This is before

807
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:53.199
I moved into the flat, So this is a long

808
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:57.360
time ago, before I moved into the the flat above

809
01:05:57.400 --> 01:06:02.880
the chip shops. So this is like forty wow, four

810
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:11.000
years ago. And so we're all ready to go out

811
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.719
that night and you know, go into the pubs. And

812
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.760
just so I couldn't even get served in the pubs.

813
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.639
I was what fifteen at the time. So let's go

814
01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:22.840
around and sell these cigarettes to people. And he came around.

815
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.599
I thought, but right, let's get ready to go. And

816
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:28.639
they said, no, it's a problem. I said, what he

817
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:33.880
showed me the newspaper and what he didn't know where

818
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:39.280
the cigarettes had come from. So he sped the rest

819
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:45.320
of the evening disposing of them, because you know, it

820
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:49.559
was dodgy. It's like, I can't believe it. I really

821
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:51.920
I didn't mind being a wheel I was trying to

822
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:54.400
be a wheeler dealer, but I wasn't trying to be

823
01:06:54.440 --> 01:07:01.559
a criminal. I'm a criminal. See, yeah, that wasn't It

824
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:04.000
wasn't great. I mean ideally old. It just sort of

825
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:08.159
It wasn't one hundred percent sure it was from there,

826
01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:10.920
but it just seemed a little bit of a coincidence.

827
01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:13.960
No one sort of knew, no one, well, no one

828
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:17.039
that did know would tell, which is probably the right

829
01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:27.039
thing anyway. So we're walking around disposing of them for hours,

830
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:32.519
literally taking them out of packets and breaking them up

831
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:36.519
one by one. They must have been there was a

832
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:43.159
lot a lot as yeah, a lot, a lot of

833
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:47.199
money's worth actually, in today's money, that would be worth

834
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:56.920
probably a couple of thousand pounds worth of cigarettes now,

835
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:02.360
because it's about twenty pounds a package now, so yeah,

836
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:05.960
at least one hundred packs, probably maybe even more than that.

837
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:12.880
So yeah, it's after that. I didn't I thought, no,

838
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:17.760
I don't think I'm gonna I'm not going to sell contraband,

839
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:22.239
not contraband, but I just the idea of I didn't

840
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.159
want to sell stolen goods. I mean, it might not

841
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:26.640
have been, but I didn't want to do that anyway,

842
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:29.159
because I was in such a small town you couldn't

843
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:32.079
get away with it. And when I moved to London,

844
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:36.760
I was buying stuff all the time that was snide

845
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:41.319
or dodgy stuff that had come in on the boats.

846
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:49.520
I don't mean I wasn't buying immigrants. I wasn't buying illegals. No,

847
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:55.279
there was like tapes that were what do you call them,

848
01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:00.239
like copies of stuff snids. I suppose that's what they could.

849
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:05.560
I forget what they call them. But yeah, so that

850
01:09:05.640 --> 01:09:10.000
was the end of that criminal empire, just wasn't for me.

851
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:18.880
And then I traveled to London to the main place

852
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:23.159
where they sell jewelry, and this is probably a little

853
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:26.760
bit later, probably Yeah, that was a couple of years later,

854
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:31.840
probably about nineteen eighty nine. I went to London and

855
01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:35.920
I bought I probably spent about one hundred pounds on jewelry,

856
01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:42.600
brought it back trying to sell it, and I was

857
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.520
even walking through the train trying to sell it to

858
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:50.319
people on the train. What was going on in my mind?

859
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:54.439
I didn't sell anything, But I don't know where I

860
01:09:54.600 --> 01:10:02.760
got the the confidence, So we say, maybe stupidity a

861
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:05.640
bit confidence. Where did I get that from to be

862
01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:08.079
able to walk up to complete strangers on a train

863
01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:12.520
that was sitting there and try and sell them jewelry

864
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:16.720
out of a carry it back. It didn't even know no,

865
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.800
I don't think they even had boxes, which was a

866
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:25.279
bit silly. Like Yeah, in the end, I'm not sure.

867
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:30.479
I think I did sell some, but I think I

868
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:33.840
didn't sell many. I did sell some, not on the train,

869
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:42.399
but afterwards I might have given a few away. But

870
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:47.560
another thing I did is I bought the Exchange and Mart,

871
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:53.000
which was a magazine and very famous for it was

872
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:56.399
very famous. I'm not sure if it's still around. It

873
01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:00.359
might be a website now, but people used to sell

874
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:05.640
their cars on there, buy and selling cars. They also

875
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:08.600
had buying and selling number plates was a very that

876
01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:12.439
was a very kind of specialized thing. But there's also

877
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:22.079
a business section where you could phone up or send

878
01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:27.960
off for a business kit absolutely free, and it'd be

879
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.920
about a free business idea. You go along and they

880
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:33.399
just send it to you in the post and you'd

881
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:35.119
give it a go and see if you could, you know,

882
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:40.439
make money from it. And I did that for every

883
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:45.720
single business opportunity there was. And I remember I came

884
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:52.600
downstairs one morning and I had about forty five It

885
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.680
was a brilliant day. I had about forty five packages

886
01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:00.720
or envelopes with stuff in with all these different and things.

887
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:04.159
It's different, you know, because I was just giving stuff

888
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:08.239
away free, trying to get people to sell it, samples

889
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:13.760
and stuff. It was so good. There was financial plans.

890
01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:20.039
There was even money lending, which perhaps wasn't a good

891
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:25.840
thing to me get to get involved in again. But

892
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:29.640
the one thing I did take up, I did sort

893
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.760
of delve into the jewelry, try to start business as

894
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:39.399
a jeweler kind of in person. I had this idea

895
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:44.239
that I'd be call myself mister Gold, and I'd travel.

896
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:48.479
I'd go around the pubs and I'd wear lots of

897
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:53.600
jewelry and a suit, and everyone would come to me

898
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:58.159
for their jewelry requirements and I'd just be known in

899
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:00.439
the local town. And that would be if so I

900
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:05.399
got engaged. They'd come to me because I would get

901
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:09.439
them a reduced rate than what they would get in

902
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:15.119
a jewelers, but it would still be the same quality.

903
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:22.920
Didn't quite work out, that was the plan, And so

904
01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:25.600
I had leaflets made up and you know, all this

905
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:34.199
stuff done, and yeah, I had necklaces, and yeah, it

906
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:40.439
didn't quite work. The next thing I tried was Perfume.

907
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:44.680
Now this company, I still feel a little bit giddy

908
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:48.399
thinking about it because it was exciting. They sent me

909
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:55.119
a whole pack of perfumes, a big sample pack, like big.

910
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:59.079
You know, we'd go through the letterbox. I mean, it

911
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:01.800
might argue because it wouldn't go for the letbox, doesn't

912
01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:05.600
It doesn't mean it's like big, but it was big.

913
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:12.479
It was kind of like sous I don't know, not

914
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:18.159
suitcase size, but briefcase size, maybe maybe a bit smaller

915
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:28.199
than briefcase. And the samples were nice, really nice, and

916
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:33.359
they'd be it was so I felt professional. So what

917
01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.680
I did I started going around to people I knew,

918
01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:42.159
and it'd be almost like an Ann Summer's party, but

919
01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:53.880
with perfume, but without any laughter or people. So I

920
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:58.279
guess there's nothing like an n Summer's party. But I

921
01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:00.479
knew a few people, a few females, and I just

922
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:05.439
like try that because back in them days, perfume, you know,

923
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:08.359
it's it's not things were different. There wasn't a lot

924
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:15.760
of is it cologne that men wear, which is basically

925
01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:17.720
just perfume, isn't it? So that there wasn't a lot

926
01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:23.000
of really kind of men perfume like there is now.

927
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:31.560
Not that I don't wear cologne. I just like and

928
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:35.159
I like an old fashioned bio. I think that's perfect.

929
01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:40.720
Oh hm, I thought you were coming and could smell

930
01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:45.119
you from a block off, block off, block away, block away,

931
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:55.159
a mile away, so I don't have bio. It's weird, though,

932
01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:58.119
because I've known a few people like really really bad

933
01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:03.399
bio in it. And I know I was sitting there.

934
01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:06.239
I was in there, working in the place, and the

935
01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:10.319
person's I wasn't far from their armpit. It just the

936
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:15.279
working environment meant that perhaps I need to explain that,

937
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:20.840
but you know, I could smell them. And I was

938
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:26.159
also near the microwave, and the microwave was heating up

939
01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:31.039
a pie. And it was weird because I was kind

940
01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:34.119
of getting a little bit of a similar smell from

941
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:39.119
both his armpit and the microwave, and they were almost

942
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:43.720
like they were mixing together, really like having a little

943
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:50.560
dance in the air. The two smells were. I don't

944
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:58.199
know if it's symbiotic whatever, like a little symbiotic bouncing

945
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:04.600
on a symbiotic trampoline. I don't know, but I was like, oh,

946
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:16.680
that's weird. And then I started to think, is the

947
01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:20.279
pie is smelling like his armpits or is the armpits

948
01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:23.920
smelling like that? Pie. Now I didn't know what kind

949
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:27.880
of pie it was because I wasn't the one heating

950
01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:33.760
the pie up. So and the pies all had different

951
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:39.399
bottoms of like tin fold. Obviously don't put the tin

952
01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:45.279
fold in the microwave, but they all had different So

953
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:51.439
I'm standing there thinking, was I sitting down? Sometimes I

954
01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:53.560
sit down when I want to enjoy a smell and

955
01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:57.720
try and figure out what the substances, especially if there's

956
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:03.279
two different smells. Sometimes I to rest my legs. On

957
01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:07.840
this occasion, I think I was just standing. Yeah, because

958
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:09.960
he was very tall. That's why I was able to

959
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:11.880
get to the arm not get to the arm pits.

960
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:14.039
But that's why the arm pits a little bit closer

961
01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:16.560
to me. And I think actually had my nose in

962
01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:20.920
his armpit. That would have been inappropriate to do that

963
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:24.640
when there was customers around that. The microwave was also

964
01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:28.680
to right at me. He was to left me because

965
01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:36.279
we was in a like a food environment. I thought,

966
01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:41.000
I wonder what kind of pie it is? Then? Is

967
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:48.520
it a chicken pie? Is it a vegetable pie? I

968
01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:50.279
don't know why I'm squeaking when I say the word

969
01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:57.880
pie pie, But they had different metal covers like or

970
01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:03.399
not covers, but holders. So the chicken ones were yellow.

971
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:12.039
The I think the steak ones were oblong with purple

972
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:22.640
bottoms purple aluminium or aluminium aluminium is the correct way

973
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:26.119
to say that. But the bottom of the one with

974
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:31.359
silver aluminium, which meant it was a beef and onion pie.

975
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:41.920
And I thought to myself, beef and onion, beef an onion.

976
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.279
But I didn't realize I was saying it out loud.

977
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:50.000
The customers will look at me a bit weird. The

978
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.439
person I was working with was like, you're talking about

979
01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:55.920
But then when the customer shouted out, no, he's talking

980
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.239
about my pie. It's in a microwave. It sounds it

981
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:02.720
smells like it's ready, and it hasn't. It hasn't pinged yet,

982
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.840
but not that I'm time in it. But I reckon

983
01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:09.039
it's probably ready because I can smell it. I said,

984
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:11.159
are you sure? Though? Is he sure that's what you

985
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:13.760
can smell? And he said what else could I be

986
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:17.279
able to smell other than the beef and union pie?

987
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:21.159
And I said maybe? And I thought, no, I can't

988
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:24.399
just say his armpits, can I because that would be

989
01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:27.520
I don't know. I don't think it would go down

990
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:31.119
too well. I guess that's something you need to discuss

991
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:35.439
with the person first. Isn't it like it could be

992
01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:40.800
an awkward conversation? So you're right, Tony, Yeah, you're right.

993
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:45.199
Before we start our shift today tonight, I was just

994
01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:49.600
wondering if I can ask you something, Yeah, what is it? Well?

995
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.560
I just want to know just in case I have

996
01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:02.199
to heat up a beef and onion pie in a

997
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:09.680
microwave and a customer asks, is there a beef lunnon

998
01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:15.600
pie being heated up? Or maybe I haven't heated a

999
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:19.640
beef lunnon pie up? And if the customer asks, is

1000
01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:22.399
a beef and onion pie being heated up? And if

1001
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:24.760
there isn't a beef and onion pipe being heated up?

1002
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:27.239
Is it okay? If I tell them that it's your

1003
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:32.960
armpits that they're smelling. It's weird to sort of bring

1004
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:36.319
that into a conversation, isn't it, Especially when you've been

1005
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:45.760
talking about Star Trek. So I was thinking they overlap.

1006
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:51.600
There's an overlapping smell. He intrigued me. I didn't realize,

1007
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:57.119
but it seems to still be intriguing me. For a

1008
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:02.920
weird way. For some reason, my phone keeps turning off.

1009
01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:11.960
I don't trust that phone. And then I started thinking

1010
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:20.800
beef an onion pie, body odor? What they've both got

1011
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:25.279
in common other than the smell bo beef an onion

1012
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:31.640
bo body odor bo? So I started thinking, is that

1013
01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:35.760
why they call beef and onion pies beef and onion

1014
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:39.239
pies because they smell like bo? And I thought, no,

1015
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:42.000
that doesn't make sense. Maybe that's why they call bo

1016
01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:47.640
bo because it smells like a beef and onion pie. Again,

1017
01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:52.760
I thought perhaps I should ask him, but that didn't

1018
01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:56.600
seem like how when is a good time? I suppose

1019
01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.239
directly after asking, if it's okay to point to his

1020
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:02.840
armpits if a customer thinks they're smelling a beef onion

1021
01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:05.800
pie being heated up, that would be probably the ideal

1022
01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:19.880
entry into that part of the conversation. Yeah, so I

1023
01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:26.039
delved in jewelry and so that was okay. The perfume,

1024
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:31.600
that's it. Perfume. I did sell a little bit of perfume,

1025
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.840
not a lot, A little bit, but not a lot.

1026
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:39.600
And I just thought, oh, so that didn't really work.

1027
01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:47.159
But I loved the whole planning, not the doing but

1028
01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:52.039
the dreaming, not the doing, but the thinking about it.

1029
01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:58.840
The idea of being an entrepreneur. It really appealed to me,

1030
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:04.079
and getting all these new things through the post about,

1031
01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:09.760
you know, how to sell registration numbers and all things

1032
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:20.000
like that, but ultimately never really made any money. I

1033
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:22.039
was probably at a loss with the amount of money

1034
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.600
I paid out over the years with that, you know,

1035
01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:27.680
not that I paid out a lot, but I didn't

1036
01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:37.600
have a lot come in either. So that's my entrepreneurial period.

1037
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:43.359
I think it kind of came to an end by

1038
01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:48.439
the time I was By the time I was nineteen,

1039
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:52.239
I kind of kind of given up on that. I

1040
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:55.760
just didn't really pursue it anymore. But for good, like

1041
01:24:55.960 --> 01:25:00.960
five years was that fourteen, fifteen, six seven, eighteen nineteen,

1042
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:07.359
maybe six years I was really pursuing options, looking at

1043
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:15.319
ways to maybe make some money as an entrepreneur. I

1044
01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:20.840
also tried this when I think I was eighteen. I

1045
01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:26.319
was going to sell water filters as a self employed basis,

1046
01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:29.640
but that didn't really work because I didn't have a

1047
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:35.079
car and to carry around water filters. It's just yeah,

1048
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:37.359
it was a big old suitcase, and I thought, oh

1049
01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:41.520
so that didn't work. Plus, I think they wanted money

1050
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.840
from me. They wanted me to put down a deposit

1051
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:50.159
on or to pay for the first water filter that

1052
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:52.640
I was going to use as a demonstration because they

1053
01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:54.760
wouldn't be able to use it again or they wouldn't

1054
01:25:54.760 --> 01:25:57.279
be able to sell it on. So I think they

1055
01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:03.000
wanted me to pay them that, and I said okay,

1056
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:05.560
and then I didn't speak to him again. I just

1057
01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:10.079
like left it like and it probably wasn't a lot

1058
01:26:10.119 --> 01:26:16.680
of money, but more than I had anyway. Perhaps that

1059
01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:22.840
was their stick is that was their way of selling

1060
01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:30.439
water fillers, by employing people on a self employed basis,

1061
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:35.279
which didn't cost them anything, and then they'd sell a

1062
01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:39.399
water filler to them. I wonder how many interviews he

1063
01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:47.840
did a week, how many jobs he gave away a week.

1064
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:52.760
So that was pretty much the That was that period.

1065
01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:59.560
There was I think what I would have liked to die.

1066
01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:02.600
Oh yeah, I did become a window cleaner. And it's

1067
01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:05.960
not so much. I mean, it is entrepreneurial, isn't it.

1068
01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:11.680
It's self employed. I became a window cleaner and I

1069
01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:15.880
cleaned one window. I think it was my landlord's, my

1070
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:20.000
landlady's windows. And then I left the ladder and all

1071
01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:25.439
my equipment in her garage. Then I moved to Spain,

1072
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:31.920
decided to move to Spain. Came back the same day

1073
01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:36.319
after going to Spain for the afternoon, and she evicted me,

1074
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:39.479
and she wouldn't give me the I wouldn't give me

1075
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:52.359
the ladder back. M So that's that's the end of

1076
01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:59.520
Monday's boring objects talking about being an entrepreneur or entre

1077
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:05.439
entrepreneurial ship being an entrepreneur. I don't know what I'm

1078
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:07.920
going to call it. I can't even spell the word.

1079
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:11.880
I literally can't say it either, can I. So I

1080
01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:16.640
will see see how this all comes out. But that's

1081
01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:21.840
it for me. So thank you for listening. Remember to

1082
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:24.520
be kind to yourself because you do deserve to be happy,

1083
01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:29.800
and be gentle of yourself because you deserve to feel safe.

1084
01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:35.760
Lots of love. Bye,