July 17, 2025
(music) (5 hours) Animals on Trial | LMBYTS #1395 | Jason Newland | 17th July 2025

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Hello, and welcome to Jasonneuland dot com and my plastic
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bottle of water that's just heckled me. So my name
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is Jason Newland. This is let me bore you to sleep.
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Vinnie's culted up next to me. It's very warm, are
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you Vinnie? And it's all cuddled up. He caught it
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up next to your daddy, if you are. And what
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was I gonna say? Please only listen when you can
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safety close your eyes. And this is well, I didn't
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get an opportunity to do a cure. No, I do
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a Trivia Tuesday. So this is going to be a
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Trivia Thursday. Boh bah, I thought, I just why not?
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Why not? Indeed, I've got the day after day kind
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of so I did already do a recording earlier on
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but on this recording, I'm not even going to mention.
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I'm not going to mention any sausages or anything like that.
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Just I'm going to focus on the recording.
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Oh yes, So.
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What I thought I would do is as it's Trivia
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Thursday instead of Trivia Tuesday, I find a particularly weird subject,
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very obscure as it were, and I'm going to focus
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on animals on trial and moves on trying. Yeah, that's
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what I'm doing. Oh I could just could you feel
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that excitement and energy as I sung that. It was
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like I was on a big stage with guitars and
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drums and a big microphone and a glipsey suit, you know,
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obviously showed my midsection of muscles. Actually, I've been doing
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problems in my upper back muscles, and yesterday and today
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I did some enterpresses and it seems to have kind
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of helped. So I'm going to do that every day.
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And it just I don't know who knows why, but
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maybe it's because the last month I've done hardly any exercise.
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I've done hardly any weights. I've done more walking, but
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I haven't done because normally do weights every day for
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my lower back, which probably helps with my other back.
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And I've done hardly anything pretty much in the weight division,
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in the weight division, in the weight department. So yesterday
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and today I've done some bench presses with my dumb bells,
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and I actually it's strange, but I can kind of
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it feels a bit better. Our back feels better for
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doing that. Who knows, who knows why, But I'm not
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gonna I'm not gonna moan about it. I'm just going
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to enjoy it. So I do. I feel my opper
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back feels better than it did, so I will continue
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to do that every day. I'm only doing a thirty
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or forty reps. It's not not heavy because technically, I
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was thinking, if you can do a push up, press up,
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push up, what you want to call it, Technically I
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should be able to bench press my own weight because
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that's what you're doing when you do a press A
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press up, isn't it or push up? It's your own
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weight against yourself. So technically I should be able to
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bench press ninety five kilos or whatever. I am should
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be able to do that easy, Yeah, I should surely.
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Yeah.
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So it's two hundred pounds, two hundred and something pounds,
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so I should be able to do that. I shouldn't.
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They shouldn't be hard at all. So really three I
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suppose three hundred pounds, technically I should be able to
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do There's been years since I even bothered with a
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bench press, like as in a bench press machine, and
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I never really enjoyed doing free weights bench presses in
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the gym like you know, like a proper gym when
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I was younger, or at any age really, partly because
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when I was a kid, i'd do it, and I'd
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always choose to bench press machines if there was other
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people around, even just doing curls arm curls, it was
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a little bit I just didn't feel comfortable doing it
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because there'd always be someone coming around pumping up the
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weights and putting on bigger weights than the ones I
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was using, showing off and stuff or just that was
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stronger possibly as well, and I was never really into that.
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So I'd be in the gym on my own, doing
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my own little thing when I was like a kid fourteen,
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and you know, all the tough kids from the steer
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below or whatever would all be in there, and they'd
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all be like trying to outdo each other, and they'll
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all have bigger muscles than me, and generally be bigger
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than me because I was quite small for my age,
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very small for my age, and I just I mean,
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they didn't show me any disrespect, but it just it
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felt a little bit like, oh, okay, if I was
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standing there next to them doing only like twenty percent
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of the weights they were doing, that make me look silly.
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They're doing like an arm curl with a barbell, and
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then they come along and they'd like, do it. I
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don't know what I would have been doing back then,
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three pounds or something, I don't know, and they'd be
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coming and doing these big, big weights, and I'm okay,
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that was bad enough, But then as an adult, it
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seemed to be the only people that were doing free weights,
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which is about just you know, where you put the
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weights on the end of the bars rather than using
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the machines. The only people seemed to be doing the
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free weights are the huge people, you know, the ones,
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the bodybuilders types, and I was always going to look really,
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really silly next to them. I mean, there was one bloke.
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He was so big. It's when I was in my twenties.
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He was so big and muscular. I stood next to
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him and I disappeared see me because it was just
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in comparison. I was like I was invisible, and I
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realized I'd fallen down a hole.
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It was.
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Not the most enjoyable experience being around people like that.
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But then I went to a proper bodybuilding gym, not
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on purpose, I mean I didn't accidentally. I didn't think
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it was a headdresser's or kabab shop. I didn't notice
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a gym. But this was different because the other gyms
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I've been in have always been like public general gyms,
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you know. But even now, the ones where just anyone goes,
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maybe they're open twenty four hours a day and you've
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got a little security key and stuff, and you still
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get the young lads sort of showing off their muscles
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and stuff like that, which is that's what I would
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have done if I'd ever been able to, if I'd
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ever had the muscles to do that with. But then
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when I was in Stratford, I went into an actual
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bodybuilders gym and it was run by a former Mister Universe, WILFH. Sylvester,
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And that was a different experience because although there was
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huge people training there, none of them were arrogant, none
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of them were showing off because they were all big.
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It was almost it's a weird one. It's like you
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had they didn't have to. I guess they were competing
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with each other as in, you know, for competitions and stuff,
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but there was you had some peoples going in there
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for just to train, like me and you It's basically that.
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And then you had these massive, super fit men and
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women who were athletes, and I have never been an athlete,
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never been one of them. I can't even spell the
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word let's try a F T L E E E
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t oh, yeah I can. But that for some reason
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felt like a more safer space because the man running
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it didn't take no crap. It was lovely, very friendly.
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But at the same time, that was his dream to
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own his own gym, so he worked his whole He
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worked for years, decades as a bodybuilder and working for
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the Ford Car Company in day, and I think they
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sponsored him in his bodybuilding career. So he traveled the world,
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you know, doing bodybuilding contests and stuff. And then when
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he retired from bodybuilding, maybe he retired from the car
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as well, and he went and opened the gym when
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he was probably I'm guessing probably in his forties early forties.
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And in the window of this gym, most walked past
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it for years, never went in there. Well I did
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go in there eventually, but you know, for years I
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brought past it and there was his cardboard plat out
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of him. I didn't know who he was, Will Sylvester,
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even though I used to be really into bodybuilding, when
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I was at school, as in reading the magazines and
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wishing upon a star. Basically, I thought if I kept
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reading a magazine, scenes my muscles would grow. It didn't happen.
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So I knew quite a lot about bodybuilding. The main
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people back then at Lee Hani Rich GASPARI, yeah, lots
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of different ones. Back then. There was al Beccles who
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was about ninety years old then and now he's one
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hundred and fifty and he's still going strong. And he
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was in the top ten I think of the Mister Olympia,
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the oldest ever top ten like placement in the Mister Olympia,
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and he was I think then he was like forty eight,
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maybe even fifty, maybe fifty, maybe higher than fifty because
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it's definitely in his nineties now. And this was not
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nineteen eighty five, eighty four, a five. Because I used
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to take the building magazines. I think one was called Flex.
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It was definitely called Flex. Another one was I think
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Bodybuilding Monthly, so I should take them into school and
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read them while I was in classroom. So it was
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between those magazines and the martial arts magazines also like
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the boxing magazines are Ko that was a boxing magazine
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I like to read. And then the martial arts magazine
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was what you'd think I'd remember that one, wouldn't you.
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What was the martial arts magazine? Kung Fu p not
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Kung Fu Panda Kung Fu? Can I.
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No?
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Hm, that would come to me. I could search for it.
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I can search kind of, but I can't bother. I've
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got the laptop in front of me. But I want
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to try and see if my memory perhaps works slightly. No,
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I can't remember. Oh no, nearly had it. It wasn't
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come through What is it martial arts? It might have
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been called martial arts, kicking, punching, blocking, fighting, It's some
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kind of name. It had a name anyway, And the
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specific one I used to buy every month or was
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it weekly? I think it was every month at least, yeah,
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I think it was. It might be fortnightly. No, I
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can't remember what it was called. But those were the
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types of magazines that I used to read. Well, they're
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the ones i'd read in public. It's I'm the only
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person that actually had a pot. It's weird. I was
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a little bit embarrassed about reading bodybuilding magazines, so I
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had them so when I was at school, because you
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know those desks that you can open up and they're
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like wooden desks and they open and you can put
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stuff inside. I don't know if you've ever seen those.
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That's like from decades ago. I'm not sure if they
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still exist. Well, I used to hide my magazines and
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read them with that up or I'd put it on top,
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and I didn't want other people to know that I
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was reading bodybuilding magazines. So what i'd do is hide
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it inside A copy of Playboy seemed to do the
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trick or Penthouse, whichever one I could whatever managed to
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find in the bushes. When I say bushes, I mean
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like real, Okay, let's just move on. So I talk
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that bushes had the trimmer around. It's really weird. They
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trimmed everything except one bit. And as we come out
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the front of our of where I live, I've got
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this big hedge's big bush, but they haven't trimmed it
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off of the pavement, which means I can't see around it.
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I know, technicy, I've never been able to see around corners.
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I can't see what's coming. I can't see what's you know.
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It's like really because when I take this little munchkin
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out for a walk. I like to said the word
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did he hear it? He didn't seem to notice. Good.
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He he's asleep. I can't quite see what's coming to
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the left of me, but they haven't trimmed it back yet.
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So this what was I talking about?
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That?
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Oh?
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Yeah, I liked that. That was a good gym had
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a punch bag as well. So Wilf was cool. I
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got him really well with him just I'd stop and
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a chat chat with him. And I didn't really get
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to know him too, I think ninety six, So from
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ninety six to about two thousand and one, I knew
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him like to talk to and to chat to, and
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I'd sometimes he'd be outside and I'd just have a
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chat with him. Really nice bloke. I used to go
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in there with my cousin in about ninety six, and
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I think she fancied his son. Yeah, I think she'd Yeah,
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she did, yeah, because his son used to be a
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trainer as well. And it's really so down to such
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a nice bloke wolf And I'd go in there sometimes,
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I just be hitting there on his own and we'd
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talk train together, and I'll say trained together. He'd he
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kind of give me a training tips something I couldn't.
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I wouldn't even be able to spot for him. So
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if he was lifting free weights, seemed to doing the
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bench press, I'll be no good, you know. So if
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