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Recorded 23 September 2024 · 1 hr 43 min

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Hello and welcome to Let Me Bore You To Sleep. It's Monday's Boring Objects. Monday's Boring Objects.

Yeah, so my name is Jason Newland. Please only listen when you can. Safely close your eyes and Vinnie's ears are pricking up because I've opened a window.

Only because the door's closed and it gets a little bit stuffy in here. Having the door close is because I'm trying to stop him from barking. But having a window open means then he's more likely to bark.

But I need air flowing man, you know, get a bit of air in here. My website is jasonnewland.com. Brilliant resource where you can download thousands of recordings. And yeah, it's a really good place.

All my, well, not all of my stuff, but a lot of my archive recordings are on there. I'm still working on it. Still working on the YouTube channel as well.

So I'm on YouTube as well. And if you'd like to be part of the Facebook group, it's Jason Newland's Boring Group. It's a private group, but we just ask to join and you'll be joined, if that makes sense.

So this is Monday's Boring Objects. So last week, I did teabags. Talked about teabagging and teabags and stuff.

So this week, we're going to talk or I'm going to talk about reusable carrier bags. Reusable carrier bags. Wow, I can, I can, I can sense the excitement.

Quivering in your knees. Just I can, yeah, reusable teabags. No, not reusable teabags, reusable carrier bags.

That was the second most popular choice. What I'm probably going to do next week is put another poll out, because I accidentally deleted a couple of them. Or I might just, I might just go through all the ones that were mentioned.

When I asked last week and do all of them, and then, then ask for some more. Yeah, that might be easier. So what I'll do, actually, I'll tell you who voted for this one.

So you know who to blame. Oh, let's have a look. Oh, let's have a little look.

Okay, what's my name? George, yes, yes. A smooth and boring group. Just got to go down a little bit.

Oh, itchy back. Down, down, down, down, down. Right.

So I asked the question. Reusable teabags. So reusable shopping bags.

I keep saying teabags. All different types of glue, the bins, wellies, leftover change and money, elastic bands, but there were others. So I did teabags last week.

The people that have voted for this one was Christine, Ben, Cindy, Diana, and Robin. So the ones last week was Samantha, Sky, Tina, Sarah, Ruth, Chris. So thank you for your recommendations.

And if you'd like, make a bit. If you would like to be part of the excitement that is Monday's Boring Objects, and help me to choose a subject to talk about, then just join the group, Jason Newland's Boring Group. Did I say something? I said Jason Newland's.

That'd be Jason Newland. That'd be quite a good name, actually. Jason Newland.

So today is Monday, the 23rd of September, it's 10 to seven in the evening. I haven't been the most productive today. I've done a few things.

I made some videos for YouTube. The editing took quite a long time this morning. So I woke up about four o'clock.

It took till about half six to have all the editing and processing and all that stuff done. So it's quite, I don't know why it took so long. It just, it just did.

I think I kept falling asleep while I was doing it, to be fair. It was, I got up too early. Although I had been in bed since early, so I didn't have, not like I had a late night.

But I just, sometimes, you know, you know, I mean, sometimes just, and it's, it is a little bit, not the most exciting thing, editing. Really, especially when you're listening to me, imagine listening to me, but then editing through it to make sure that it's, you know, his, the main thing really is his barking to be out of it. And any particular weird sounds, you know, if there's some like really strange sounds outside and anything like that.

I got my camera back on my front door and my neighbor downstairs has got their camera back as well, because we've had some weird stuff happening in the, in the building again. A puddle of urine was downstairs. What else? I had my toilet roll stolen from a doorstep.

There was, yes, there's just a few strange things happening. So the cameras are back. So at least my camera kind of covers the whole of the landing really.

So, you know, if anything, if, even if someone like came up to the camera to sort of steal the camera, I'd see them come in and I'd have them, I'd have them on video. Even if they ran off with the camera, I still have it on video who it was. So they can't really get away with it.

I mean, my neighbor downstairs, she's got a video of someone urinating against the front door, not her front door, but the communal doors. A camera just filmed it. And this was like two o'clock in the morning.

This is months and months ago. I know who it was as well. It's just like, I really did want to see that.

I know the person. This is like, anyway, let's not talk about that. I've got a dry mouth.

I'm going to have to have a drink. I'm really tired. I'm having one of those, one of those tired days.

One of those, what am I doing? Why am I doing it days kind of. One of those, maybe it's, maybe, maybe it's the weather. I woke up to torrential rain.

And I still haven't got a Broly. I need to, I need to get a new Broly. I'm just sort of saving, saving up for an Umbrella.

Ella, Ella, Ella. It's just, I need to, there's a certain Broly I want to get that is, okay, I don't think there's any such thing as a real windproof Broly. They might say they're windproof.

But I've never met one that was windproof. Not like really windproof. In fact, I'm becoming less windproof.

Ever since I kind of lost a little bit of weight. I've noticed that I'm not quite as, well, I'm still not as heavy. And the wind, perhaps not can sway me.

But I can feel it a little bit more. And I noticed I'm feeling the cold a little bit more as well. Because I've got less blubber on me.

I was walking around like a walrus last year. The teeth and everything. And now it's not like I've lost a huge amount of weight.

The ironic thing, here's the weird thing, okay. I felt fatter when I became, when I was 14 stone, than I did when I was 16 stone. Honestly, when I when I reached 14 stone, back in 2010, or 2009, 2010, I actually felt like I was gonna pop.

Seriously, I felt so overweight, so huge. And then by 2015, or 16, I was 16 stone. And I didn't feel slim.

I'll be honest. There's no point that I feel, oh, I feel so skinny now. No, obviously not.

But I didn't. I didn't feel I didn't feel like I was about to explode. I mean, in a bad way.

So weird, isn't it? I guess it's just perception. How I was perceived. Yeah, we know what perception is.

You haven't got to explain what the word means. All right. Okay.

Vinnie's just had his dinner. Have you had your lunch, Vin? He's on the lookout for something. So with Yeah, just, I'm now looking to do some martial arts.

And I told you, I talked about it yesterday. And I've kind of got my, I've got my eyes set on three different clubs. One's kickboxing, one's jiu jitsu.

There was another one, but I'm probably not going to go with that one because I don't know, just don't know the style at all. Never even heard of it before. It's been around for like 5057 years.

But I just don't, I don't know it. So it's a kickboxing, jiu jitsu, both of which I've done before, but briefly, very briefly, both of them were brief. And judo.

And so those, those three clubs are in, I like the idea of doing boxing. But the problem with boxing is just around kids. And I don't, I want to do something where I can spar where I can get a bit more.

And at the boxing, I'm not allowed to spar. So I'm old, you know, and these the amateur boxing clubs. I don't think anyone can really even argue with us.

What I'm about to say, the amateur boxing, the ABA clubs in the UK, they're only interested in kids. Like to get them to be good enough to be, you know, to, to participate in tournaments. When I say kids, I'm talking about anything like young, young kids to get them to be really good.

So they're maybe eventually go to the Olympics or something like that, and then turn professional. And then I probably move on to a professional gym because they won't be at the amateur gym anymore. Because that's for amateurs, ABA, amateur boxing association.

And even, I mean, I had two experiences. I know this isn't supposed to be about boxing, but I'm going to talk about boxing anyway. I think I'm going to talk, I love it.

I love talking about stuff like this. You want me to talk about carrier bags? I mean, come on. How am I going to fill up a whole recording talking about reusable carrier bags? How? How? Yeah, I probably do it quite easily, but that's besides the point.

I went to one, two, three, four, four boxing clubs in my lifetime. The first one was when I was at school. Went along, it was in a different town.

And I was obsessed with karate, but I also love boxing. I kind of fallen in love with boxing because of the Hagler-Herns kind of period, which was 84, I do believe. So I fell in love with that.

I fell in love with boxing. I'd already been a fan of boxing. I was a big fan of Frank Bruno and Bam McGregor and stuff like that.

But I didn't get to see much of it. So I went to this boxing class when I was probably about 15. And I liked it, but it was a lot of hassle getting there.

It was hassle getting back. So I had to get a bus there and then a bus back. And it was all train there and train.

It was like really, you know, I was a kid and it just wasn't easy to do. And I still love karate, you know, so I was doing that. And then the second time I went to a boxing club was about 1989, maybe early 90.

And it was in Stratford. And I went to a boxing club there. And it was, they look, I think if they had this gym, but I think they were potentially going to be closing down.

And I was what I was 19 at the time. So I wasn't old. You know, I was still a teenager.

So they didn't, they were, they were, they didn't like turn me away or anything. But they were uncertain about whether or not it would still be there. And I think I moved away from London shortly afterwards.

So nothing came from that. And then I moved back to London in 1991, January, and probably early years, early 90s, I went into a really famous boxing gym. And I asked, you know, if I could train, I thought I really thought it'd just be a case of when I wasn't really asking permission, to be fair, just like, when can I train? How much is it? What days is it and stuff?

What time? But it was like, nope.

Too old. Too old. I'm 20 years old.

I mean, too old. You're too old. We only want kids.

I couldn't believe it. It was like a boxing, amateur, amateur boxing club. It is a very famous, world famous boxing club.

But regardless of that, how did they know? They didn't know that I might have, I might have been quite good. I might be rubbish. But you know, I might have had something there.

They didn't realize just by looking at me. And that was disappointing. And that put me off boxing.

But training as a boxer, didn't put me off watching boxing, but I didn't like that. It left a bit of a, wasn't pleased with that. You know, too old.

Bearing in mind that some of the Olympic champions are in their late 20s when they become a champion, or middle 20s. So, you know, even I don't think Anthony Joshua became a boxer till he was about 20, maybe 19. Some people don't turn, don't become, don't go into a boxing gym till they're in their 20s themselves.

They may never, some of them go on to become world champions. Anyway, I'm not saying I would have gone on to be a world champion. I'm just saying, that's not what I'm saying.

In my imagination it is, but it's not really, it is what I'm saying. I could have been a world champion. I could have been an area champion.

I could have, I could have, I could have been a contender. So, and in the third box, the fourth boxing club I went to, they actually, it was the ABA again, but it was part of another gym. So they basically had their section that they rented out, but it was still the ABA in my town.

And I went there and they were lovely, but it was mainly kids again. There was, there's a few adults, but it was just, and I wasn't allowed to spar because I was too old. 36, I think is the cutoff period legally, apparently.

And I wanted to spar because that's one of the things I like most about martial arts, was the sparring, because it's just fun. But yeah, in the end, so I did that and I realized that they really, I was almost like an invisible person there. The trainers occasionally would come, they'd say hello to me, or tell me that I've lost weight and stuff, so that, you know, stuff like that.

But they weren't, they weren't looking at me like I was going to be of use to them. They were looking at the little kids, seeing the possibility of grooming, grooming them into a to become a future amateur champion and ultimately maybe get into the Olympics. Because I guess that's the, that's the highest goal you can have as an amateur.

All of the world games or the European, but Olympics especially. So I kind of, it's not why I stopped going, I just kept injuring myself. I kept getting internal injuries, which sounds bad, but it was, I kept pulling these muscles inside myself from punching and that.

So I'm not quite sure what happened there. But in the end, I stopped going. I can't remember why.

I don't remember. I wish I hadn't really, because it'd be, but then I did the Taekwondo a couple of years later. Oh, this is what I was going to say.

So the three, there's four clubs. There is a boxing club I could go back to potentially or go to, but they've moved to their own premises and it is the ABA and I'm not sure if they're, they're open to adults going. But even if they are, I don't want to be the only adult.

I want, I'd rather it be like 50-50 or at least 30% adults, you know, just so there's someone to spar, well, train with. And because, you know, we, there's a school close by and I went to the karate club, which was on a Tuesday night, I think, it's not there anymore. And when I first moved into here, it was a couple of years after I moved in, went along, not one adult apart from the trainer, but there was a kid there that was bigger than me.

But even though he's bigger than me, I'm talking like taller, much, much taller. He was good, like 6'3 and I'm probably about 6'1. So he was, it was weird though, because even though he's big, he was a kid.

He was only like probably 14. And I kind of didn't want to, just didn't feel right to be, because we were kind of spar, a little bit of sparring, not proper sparring, but, and it just felt a bit awkward getting beaten up by a 14-year-old, to be honest. He threw me all over the place.

Honestly, he kept kicking me over. It's not fair. So I didn't go back there.

And now just to, I wanted, I want to go somewhere, ideally where it's just adults, but most martial arts clubs don't have just adults. Some will have female only classes. See, I don't want to go to a men only class.

That's never appealed to me. That kind of, what do they call it? Segregation and stuff. I'm not really, it doesn't, it's not, not for me.

It's nice. If you're going to meet someone, it's nice to meet men and women in those places, because sometimes it can be quite a nice social event. So we'll just get to know them a little bit.

So I don't know. It's the idea of going to a place, it's just men, which you will get in boxing anyway. It's predominantly males, even the youngsters, but there's still a fair bit of girls now.

You know, when I was young, it was all boys, pretty much. I don't think girls were even allowed to compete or train because, you know, that was like 80 years ago when I was young. So the clubs that I'm thinking of doing, I'm thinking of, I've now got it like shortlisted and I'm starting to think that maybe next year I can do it.

I'm still weight training. I'm still looking to kind of, you know, reduce my cholesterol and stuff. And I'm going to be starting on the exercise bike at some point when I can bring myself to do it.

So I might start in January, start going to one of these clubs. So there's, and I've got a neighbor who I see walking a dog and he goes to kickboxing. And I thought maybe joining that club and you never know, I might even get a lift, get a lift home.

That'd be handy. That's not the reason to do it. But then I'm thinking, I don't know about the kicking.

That's the one thing that kind of, that puts me off a little bit. And the other, that's why, otherwise I'd probably go back to Taekwondo. And that's the reason why, that was a weird noise, isn't it? It's made a weird, my mouth makes some strange noises.

So I felt a bit blocked up yesterday, a bit of air, and I was sneezing earlier. So hopefully I'm all right, but it might just, the weather changes so quickly, so quickly. You know what we should have in this country? There's this big thing about, oh, there's too many people, too many foreigners.

There should be some kind of a test to see if they can be part of the English community. They just, they, you know, well, if you want to find out if someone's English, ask them about the weather. And if you have a full on conversation about the weather, then they're English.

They're an English citizen, no matter where they're from. If they talk, if you see someone in the streets, oh, it's cold, isn't it? Yeah, you should, it's going to snow probably next week. No, yeah, it will be nice this afternoon.

If you have that conversation with someone, that means they're English. Doesn't matter what accent they've got, doesn't matter what they look like. They're English.

It's in, they are genetically English in their brain, because that's what we do. We are born with an obsession with weather. So if you, if you wait any bus stop, I mean, I don't know if people really use the buses as much as they used to, but, or in a waiting room, you know, we just come in out of the cold.

Or if you're in a queue outside waiting to get somewhere, the conversation about the weather, guaranteed. With a complete stranger as well. You can't do that about many subjects.

You know, if you've got a stranger at a bus stop, and you say, oh, it's cold, isn't it? Or, you know, I remember I lent my gloves. In fact, I didn't leave. I gave my gloves to a young girl.

She was freezing. She didn't even have a coat. So I might have let her wear my coat.

I can't remember. But I let her, she had to, I let her put, yeah, no, she got on the bus before me. So she had the gloves, I let her keep the gloves.

Because it's cold. Like why have you come out with, without any, well she had clothes on, but you know, why, why wear gloves? That's what I'm trying to say. It's cold.

Wear gloves. Wear a hat, wear gloves, wear goggles. Wear, just keep warm.

You know, I know it's not fashionable maybe to, to be nice and cozy when you're waiting for a bus, but I prefer it. I don't want to be cold. Do you want to be cold? I don't want to be cold.

No. So yeah, you can talk about the weather to a complete stranger. Oh, it's been a hot day today, isn't it? Yeah, it's going to be hot.

It's going to be the hottest day in the whole history of the world tomorrow. It's going to be over 9,000 degrees. You can get away with that conversation.

Talk about, oh, I think it's going to snow. Do you think it's going to snow? I don't know. Don't you think it's too cold to snow? How can it be too cold to snow? Go to New York.

It's like minus 70 and it snows. How can, how can it be too cold to snow? Go to the Antarctic. It snows there and it's like minus a thousand.

How, do you mean too cold to snow? Too warm to snow? Yeah. Not too cold to snow. It could be too cold to get, to get a suntan.

You know, if there's no, if it's a bit, so you can have those kinds of conversations. But if someone's at a bus stop and you just sort of say, uh, I had a sausage last night for dinner. I had two sausages.

I like sausages. Sometimes I have them with beans on special occasions. I have them in a roll.

I try and fit two sausages in one roll, but they don't fit. I like a sausage roll as well as a sausage in a roll. Sometimes I actually put a sausage roll inside a bread roll.

That doesn't always fit, but I squash it. So it does fit. And sometimes what I'll do is I'll get a cheese roll, cheese and tomato, and I put a warm or hot sausage roll inside the cheese and tomato roll and squash it in and eat it.

It doesn't fit, but it tastes nice. If you see the look on their face, they don't, this, they don't come back and say, oh, I like sausages as well. Yeah.

Sometimes I like to eat them when I'm, when I'm watching telly or on the toilet. That's another thing. You can't talk about toilet habits when you're at the bus stop.

I've been told a few times, you know, you can't talk about stuff like that. I remember my dad years ago, he was talking, it was a dinner table. It was a Sunday dinner.

I was visiting from London and he was talking about his piles, like he did his hemorrhoids. He just, I don't know why he just liked to talk about them at the dinner table, going into detail, you know, having to have an operation and just going like we're eating. Right.

And then I say to him, so who are you going to vote for dad? Because the election was coming up. He said, that's personal. That's private.

It's like, so who you vote for personal and private, but the insides of your, that's a true story anyway. So the four clubs before I get on with the actual recording is there is, I know people are, dear Jason, these Monday boring objects thing is seem like quite a good idea, but whether you can actually talk about the subjects that you were talking about, because I've been listening for six hours now, and you haven't even mentioned carrier bags.

I've been looking forward to this for years.

Yeah, the four, the four clubs I've got it down to is Judo club, kickboxing club. Um, what was it? Three kickboxing, Judo, Jiu Jitsu. I think that's it.

I've got it down to three. And then I'm thinking, I'm really swaying towards the Jiu Jitsu. But this, the person who walks his dog, his dog, not my dog.

I walk my dog. He goes to kickboxing. I know where he goes.

He told me, but I didn't know until I went on there. His trainer is my friend. There's someone that I, I used to go to Taekwondo with and me and this bloke that is his trainer.

He's, we both started at the same time in 2011 in the Taekwondo. He'd already done kickboxing previous to that. So he was brilliant at kicking.

He was better than the other. He was probably the best at kicking more than the people that were high graded Taekwondo. And so we both went to the ideas.

We were both going to go through the whole thing all the way to black belt together. Now, cause we both did the gradings and, you know, we did the first three, three or four gradings together. And then I stopped going because I feel I had to stop.

First of all, because of my job, I had a job in insurance, which meant I was doing all kinds of weird hours. Now, if I could go back, what I would have done, I would have said, look, you know, I'll do whatever hours you want, but I do need Tuesday and Thursday evening off. Because I do Taekwondo and that, if I had just done that, it would have, it just would have changed my life.

I would have, I know it's so easy, isn't it? Like what if only, if only, if, if, if, if what, but something back then I was, I was able to do it. I was physically able to do it. And then I had a break.

And when I went back, the maybe sitting down for, you know, a year or whatever back on the computer again, like doing work in an office didn't really help my back so much, made my back worse possibly. And then I tried to go back and it just, yeah, I ended up having just, just having to leave. So I'm probably, I feel a little bit embarrassed about going back there.

But anyway, he went on to get his black belt. I think he might have even got his second band, Dan black belt. And now he's teaching.

I don't know if he teaches Taekwondo somewhere else. But he teaches kickboxing at this place. So it's weird.

It's just really weird the way kind of things move around. That could have been me. The other place is a Jeet Kune Do, not Jeet Kune Do, Jiu Jitsu.

And it's an actual academy. So I'm thinking, okay. And I talked about it the other day or yesterday, as a beginning, beginners evening course for a month.

So I might book that up in January. And go go ahead and go to there. And the plan is to become black belt.

Ideally do that like, at the same time as my university course. So by the end, by the time I'm 60, oh, it still sounds ridiculous. By the time I'm 60, I will have my second degree and my first, I have a first in my second degree.

I'm guaranteed, that's my main goal. It's not even to complete it. It's not about getting a second degree.

It's about getting a first, the highest mark that I can get. I mean, some would argue that I got the highest mark that I could get last time. But I didn't because it was capped.

Because I put any, I put in the, the, it was in late, I handed in the things late. Even though I got an extension, I was still late. Which meant they were capped at 40%.

When I was getting like 66, 70%. So I still wouldn't have got a first, but I would have got a second. Or 2-2 or I don't know, 2-1 or whatever it is.

But I want to get a one, a first. So that's the thing. And if I can get my black belt around the same time, how cool would that be? I'll be 60 years.

It's only 60 years away. I'd be super fit. I mean, of course, I won't be any sexier than I am now.

That's not possible. But I'll be super fit. I'll probably, I don't know if I might weigh less if I'm exercising regularly.

Technically, I'm exercising now. But it's more muscle than cardio. So I can feel it.

The weird thing about it is when doing weight training every day, you start to get to feel, feel the, the muscles moving or even just even in my legs. I can just, I can tense the muscles in my legs. It just becomes, I mean, they're always, always there, but just they're more tensable when they're being trained every day.

So I don't do intense training, by the way. You know, any, any experts in fitness, you shouldn't train your legs every day. You shouldn't train your biceps every day.

Well, I just do four, four lots of weights. Four times a day. I do four, four, four like exercises.

And so yeah, every time before taking the little one out, I do some weights. And the repetition is getting more as well, because it's, it's, I guess, maybe I'm getting stronger or I'm just getting used to the weight. But yeah, it's pretty cool.

So I'll continue doing that for the, for the rest of this year and perhaps try and get on the exercise bike. And then when I, next year, I will have a, perhaps be a bit more fitter and able to start doing like a new martial art. So in Judo is the other one I'm thinking about, because kickboxing is cool, but I want to, I do love boxing, but rather I want to get a black belt.

So it kind of breaks it down to Jiu Jitsu and Judo, neither of which I have to worry too much about kicking. And so there's some similarities between Judo and Jiu Jitsu. And the thing I used to have with Judo is because I was always so little when I was at school.

And I know Judo is supposed to be big, therefore, you know, you should be able to take on larger opponents and that, but there's weight categories for a reason. And if I'd have gone to Judo as a kid, I would have been paired up with probably people three, three, four years younger than me, because I was so little, really, I wasn't big at all. And that would have been, well, at least two years younger than me.

Yeah, the kids two years younger than me were usually as big as I was, if not bigger. So I would have, I'm not talking about height necessarily, just I was just little. I left school, I was eight and a half stone.

When I was 15, 16, eight and a half stone, gradually went up. Obviously it went up. So I ended up being double that.

But yeah, I didn't really feel very confident about doing Judo. I wish I had done it now. Because it was on the other night.

So Monday and Wednesday was Judo at the same place. I think that I did that I did karate. I think so Judo, Monday, Wednesday, karate Tuesday, Thursday.

If I had done both of them, it you know, I would just be fun, ultimately. So that's where I'm looking at now. Maybe Judo would be more gentle.

I know it's not gentle, but maybe more gentle as far as on my body, I mean, rather than being a gentle sport, which it might be more, yeah, less shocking. But then there's throwing, I'll be thrown around. All right, I want to talk about okay, carrier bags, reusable carrier bags.

Yeah, I've used them before. Right. So yeah, I'm not sure if I'm gonna, I think January, January will be, will be when I'll start that.

So I've got it down to Judo. So what I might do, I'll probably wait until January and I'll visit both the clubs to see what I think. I might go to kickboxing just to say hello to my friend.

I haven't seen him for years. And then I, it's weird because I see a picture of him on the thing. He just looks the same.

Don't know any different, looks exactly the same. And it's weird, just one of these people who doesn't age. But then I'm thinking, I look at some of the pictures on the like the karate groups.

And instantly all kids are like, I'm not, I don't want to go there. There's like literally no adults in the picture. Doesn't mean there's no adults that go to the picture.

So I thought, no. But then thinking back when I did karate at school, yeah, there's a lot of young people, like teenagers and stuff. But there was adults as well.

It was, yeah, I'd say probably maybe not 5050, but possibly, maybe actually more adults than kids. Or teenagers that were like 17, 18. But that to me, that was an adult.

Because I was young and I was two foot tall. So yeah. How well I might be coming a bit obsessed with this.

I think I might be. God, you imagine what it'd be like if I start going back and start doing some kind of martial art. I'll just be talking about it all the time.

I'll try not to. What was that? Soundcloud is changing their terms and conditions. No, no, no, no, no.

Soundcloud. Where is it? I literally just see it and now it's gone. Soundcloud primary.

Okay. Social. Sound.

It was there right in front of me. Now it's just disappeared. Soundcloud.

Right. Okay. Updates.

Nope. Promotions. Nope.

That's very weird. It literally was right in front of me. Oh, no, found it.

We're updating our terms and conditions. Okay, it's nothing interesting after all that. So just trying to think when it comes to right, when it comes to what you want, then.

Oh, now you give me hassle. Just calm down. Calm down, baby.

See, I do have a fair amount about, yeah, carrier bags. I don't know what it's like where you live. They're like gold dust.

You know, there was a time when you just you just get carrier bags, you go, you go into a shop, and you buy one grain of rice, and offer you a carrier bag, like give you like six carrier bags for one grain of rice. It's like they're just chucking at you. It's like, you know, you go to an ice cream vendor, you know, ice cream van, get an ice cream.

Do you want a carrier bag with that? I'm gonna eat it now. Now go and have a carrier bag. It really is.

It was pushed upon you. Like, and you never charged. They never charged.

Nothing, no, no amount of money, just, I guess you probably know what never getting charged means, but it was standard stuff. You get a carrier bag. Do you want to, in fact, it was never do you want a carrier bag, they just automatically put it into a carrier bag for you.

Going back, you know, it's not that long ago, really. It might be but it's not, but it probably is. And things started to change.

And I think they actually put it into law in this country, that there was a tax or that the shops had to charge the carrier bags, which they did, like five pence. I think it started for five pence and went up to 10 pence, something like that. And we started to get encouraged to bring our own carrier bag.

Well, that's okay if you're planning to go shopping. But what if you go out? You're just out. And as a shopkeeper, if I was a shopkeeper, regardless of what I sold, I'd be quite happy to get random customers just popping in.

You know, passersby looking in a window and thinking, oh, I want to buy some feathers. And then coming into my feather shop. But in that situation, the customer is not necessarily prepared to carry the feathers home in a bag.

And let's face it, if you don't have them in a bag, they'll just float off. So it's I don't, I think it's probably cost the retail industry a fair bit by banning carrier bags, not back because a lot of times they actually banned them down in some places. But by making it very, very difficult.

See, when I moved here. Why are you missing? Just can you lay down and calm down, please, Vinnie? Can you calm down, please, darling? Can you calm down? Yeah, calm down. Just because I'm he wants to play now.

Now that I'm recording, even though he's been good for an hour. I think it's been about an hour I've been talking. Wow.

Just because he's been good for the last 10 minutes while I've been talking. Now, he's decided to try and have a fight with me. It just gets bored.

Imagine how boring it is to live with me. I mean, you think about it. People listen to me to get bored to fall asleep.

Imagine listening to me all day long, which he has to. He can't escape. I'm not sure when the old carrier bag thing started.

But you know what? I know it's probably a bit, perhaps a bit too political. But I can honestly tell you right, you know, going about all there's a, there's an island in the middle of the ocean of carrier bags the size of a whole country or something like that. Yeah.

I've never ever in my life, chucked a carrier bag into the sea. And I'm betting that everyone listening to this could probably say the same thing. Probably not as eloquently and such a sophisticated voice as I did.

Who of us have ever gone? I mean, have you ever rode a boat into the sea just to dump a carrier bag? No, I'm guessing. And if you have, I would wonder what was in that carrier bag. Hand yourself in to the police.

I just wonder. So I never have done that. So to blame the population who use carrier bags for what the, the dust, you know, the, the refuge collectors have done, because it's the refuge, isn't it? The people that collected the rubbish and then chucked that rubbish, dumped it into the sea.

Wasn't me or you that did that. It was the government that did that, or the government who contracted someone that did that. So it wasn't us.

You know, I don't go into the ferry and, and like, you know, to get, go to France, carrying a big backpack full of plastic to just chuck over the side. Although that is not a bad idea, is it? Mind you, I suppose. Isn't it weird though? Because if there's a, there's, will you calm down, please, Vinnie? Please mate, calm down.

Don't make me get angry with you. Don't make me get angry, angry. You know, whenever there's a boat issue, like a ship that has an issue, you know, where lifeboats are needed, never happens near that big island of plastic, does it? Because that'd be quite handy, wouldn't it? If they had a little remote control underneath it and they could just like manoeuvre it to where it's needed.

So I've never chucked anything in the sea. I don't think, maybe I chucked some stuff off the pier. Maybe an action man once.

But it was my brother's and he deserved it. No, I can't remember. But I don't think, I'm not really a sea person anyway, but I've never chucked something in the ocean.

Just, and I don't think many people would. So, to blame the general public for what the government has done doesn't seem very fair. And also the fact that we were being, I mean, it's probably, we were being, having the plastic carrier bags pushed on us.

I didn't always want to carry a bag. Sometimes I'd come home and I'd have like five carrier bags and there'd be nothing in them. People just handed me carrier bags.

Like, I don't want it. I'll go and take a carrier bag. They're free.

Yeah, but I don't want to carry a bag. It don't matter. It's not like they're going to be chucked in the ocean or anything, is it? I said, what? He said, no, never mind.

So yeah, that's kind of how it used to be. And then, cause there used to be a thing where, seriously, mate, just calm down. He's, he's getting all hyperactive now.

Right. Good boy. Good boy.

That's it. That's it. Good boy.

I know what he wants. I know what he wants. He wants to cuddle, don't you? Like, I've got him now and he's happy now.

Yeah, I've got, basically, I've got him. He's on his back and I've got my arms over him. I'm not holding him down.

I'm just like cuddling him. And we did this the other day and he was like this for about an hour. You were happy, weren't you? Stroke his tummy.

It's very comfortable for him. And I think that's why he was climbing over me, cause he wanted me to do it again. Cause normally he won't let me pick him up and do this.

But he was in a mood to, obviously he's in a mood to do it today. And he's just laying there. I can feel his heart rate just slowing down.

So he's, he feels very calm. He likes being cuddled and it's a proper cuddle. So I've got my arms around him.

I've got one, one underneath his left arm, like my hand around his left hand or whatever. His right arm is resting on my right arm. And my, my hand is, so it's like my arm is reaching over his chest chest and my left hand is just rubbing his belly and his chest.

And he's now got his face to the right, just resting on my, on my shoulder kind of area. He's so calm. This is what he wanted.

So I didn't realise this. He's, he wants the affection. This is what I believe.

He wants the affection. He wants cuddles, like this, this kind of cuddles, you know, when I'm actually holding him and cuddling him. He wants that, but he doesn't, the same, same time, he doesn't want it.

He does, but he's kind of, if I go to pick him up and do that, he'll like, tell me to go away. And, but today, for some reason, he's got his eyes closed now. Today, I'm thinking this might be his new thing, because it took ages before he started cuddling up to me to the side of me on a settee.

And I'd stroke him, to start with, I'd be stroking his back and he'd get off any time I touched him. Now I can have my arm on him, my hand on him, the whole time, for like two hours or an hour and a half, whatever, and he just, he's happy. And it went from every now and then, to multiple times a day now, he'll do it.

And this line on his back is something that's new, but he's now done it twice in two days, or three days, twice in three days. So I'm thinking this might be his new thing. And he's really calm, I can feel his heartbeat, it's slowed down so much, compared to what it was.

He loves having his belly stroked and his chest, and just having that cuddle. It feels, I like it as well, it feels nice. And the weird thing about it, because I thought, if I did this, because I was watching, I was watching telly last time he did this, or maybe a YouTube video or something, and I thought, well if I take my hand off his belly and I'll stop stroking him, he'll suddenly like, I'll get, he'll get off me, or you know, and I'm like, am I holding him down or not?

I know I'm not holding him down, because he's laying there by choice.

And so I took my hand off and I played around with the remote control, and as I am now, I've got my left hand off and he's still lying here. So he's choosing, he's got his eyes closed, I think he's fallen asleep. So he's choosing to be here, and I kind of feel that we're, even though I've had him for getting on to two years now, in December, it'll be two years, it's almost like we're bonding a little bit more, you know, like getting closer.

And it's nice, I don't know, I like it. So this is what we're doing anyway, so he's, he's asleep, he's happy now. Maybe that's what he was doing, he's just trying to like wrestle me and kind of have a play fight in the hope that I'll cuddle him.

I don't know, it's really hard to try and figure him out. I can't figure humans out, how am I going to figure a dog out? Never met a human being that I understood, probably never going to understand a doggy either. Taking my whole life to try and figure myself out, and I'm probably two percent there, if that.

Are you in? You're such a good boy, yes you are, he's so calm, so relaxed. So yeah, the, the old carrier bags is, I always find them quite handy. See, you used to get these flimsy bags, so you know, the ones that are just absolutely ridiculous, when they split, and I've had that happen a few times over the years.

Well, I've gone to the hospital, maybe got two, two big bottles of milk, box of cereal maybe, and they've just put it all into like one little bag that you wouldn't, well, you wouldn't use it really for anything. And feel safe, you know, definitely use, wouldn't use it as a hammock, which is probably a silly thing to say, but it's, it's like a parrot's condom, but that's even weirder thing to say.

It's really, they're really rubbish bags, literally, I mean they probably should be used for rubbish, but it's something that you could use for tea bags probably, you know, for used tea bags, put them in there and eventually chuck them out, or put them into the compost heap, if you've got a compost heap, but I don't have a compost heap, but I probably would if I did, I probably would put the tea bags in a compost heap, because that's quite a good place to put tea bags, isn't it, I think, if I'm right, I do believe, yeah.

I had a, one of my landladies, and years ago when I was at university, they had a compost heap at the bottom of the garden, insisted on me putting food there, I said, yeah, but I want to eat it, they said, no, put it on the compost heap, but it's only just cooked, I put on it, you know, it's like arguments, but what amazed me, what amazed me, is how hot rubbish becomes, like naturally, without any external heat, it heats up, it's weird, weird, weird, weird, it's like how, how does it,

how, I mean, I'm surprised that when we've eaten, if we haven't had a poo after like four or five hours, I'm surprised smoke doesn't start coming out of our ears, a bit weird, so yeah, I'm just trying to think, we used to have, when I was living with the family, you know, as a kid, we had a carrier bag, carrier bag, so there was a bag, which was, I think it was underneath the sink, that had all the other carrier bags, and I think that was kind of a standard thing,

it was one of those standard things that everyone had, so, because there'd be so many carrier bags, and I used to use a carrier bag, I mean, I was quite well, well, not well known, but I was known among people, I knew that I used to carry stuff in a Sainsbury's carrier bag, in fact, I got a friend who, was it, she got her wedding photos out, because they took a wedding, they got married, and then walked down to the beach, and took the wedding photos on the beach, and I was the only one with a carrier bag, holding a carrier bag, and the wedding photos, she found it funny, I just, what was I going to do?

After that, actually, I think I might have got myself an actual bag, like a satchel or something, but they're a bit cumbersome, and I had a satchel that was so big, there wasn't any room inside for anything, it just, the size of the satchel just seemed to take up all the room, very weird, I actually had a briefcase, blimey, I still got it, when I was counselling, like actually doing proper counselling, as a counsellor that is, I had a briefcase, and I used to walk around with it, oh dear,

but we were told we had to keep our documents under lock and key, so that's what I did, I kept them in a briefcase, a locked briefcase, and you're right, I did feel important, I felt so important, I felt like I worked in a city, I think carrier bags are pretty cool, especially the, I don't know, when did they start doing bags for life?

Because I misunderstood the concept of bags for life, I thought when they gave you a bag it had to last for life, and I couldn't understand why it wasn't lasting, because after a few months they would get holes in them and wear out, and then I'd go back and buy another one, and I remember the lady in Sainsbury's, she said to me, why do you keep buying new bags?

Because, you know, I had to pay for them, and she said, I said, what do you mean? She said, well, where's the bags you get? I said, I chucked them away, because they had holes in them, she said, well, you could bring them in, I said, what, you're going to mend the holes? You're going to darn them? We laughed, she said, no, you need to get a new one, that's what I've done, I've just got a new one, she said, no, we'll give it to you for free, huh?

You give it to me for free, so you're telling me, let me get this right, so I'll pay 10 pound, not 10 pound, 10 pence for this carry bag, and literally I never have to pay another 10 pence ever, for ever and ever and ever and ever, she said, yeah, well, unless you want more than one bag, so I thought, well, I've got loads of bags at home, they've got holes in them, went back the next week, she said, that's from a different supermarket, we can't swap that one, I said, oh, come on, she said, no, that's from Tesco's, this is Sainsbury's, we're not going to give you a Sainsbury's bag to replace the Tesco bag, are we?

It's not a bag for life, we're not, you know, we're not all working in all together, but then I thought, you know, you're right, sorry, God, I think he might be on a dream then, all right, mate, I don't, you know, the thing is, what, if you could just sell a carrier bag, sell a carrier bag, but don't put your logo, don't expect me to advertise all the way home, let me think about it, Sainsbury's, I even advertised a wedding for them, they didn't pay me anything, I paid them 10 pence,

I paid, I paid to advertise them to the 100 people or whatever that went to the wedding, or 200, I don't know, there's quite a few people there, so, oh, blimey, they're the good old days, I've lost contact with so many people over the years, never used to really bother me, it still doesn't hugely bother me, but so many people I've been close to and then just don't see them anymore and just, oh well, but really close, strange, I guess I don't really get attached, anyway, carrier bags, carrier bags, carrier bags,

I'll tell you the carrier bags I do like, and these are the refusable ones, reusable ones, but these are 50 pence, I think they're a pound now, you can pay up to £2.50, but these have got, these are sturdy, sturdy, made of material, some of them, the £2.50 ones are made of material, but these other ones are kind of heavy duty plastic, but with a material kind of handle, or they might add plastic handle, which is sturdier, and you can pay like 50 pence for them, but if you pay,

if you're happy to pay like a couple of pound, you can get, well, not only are they much bigger, but they can last for a long time, so I've got a couple of those in the cupboard, board, yeah, so the thing that I've noticed over the years that has made it difficult, that I've not been, it's one of those advancements that I've not, I've not done cartwheels over, deliveries, now, when I first moved here, bearing in mind two, two kind of things happened, firstly, my lower back was really starting to become a bit of a problem,

so bending over really was, still is an issue, and the other thing is I live so far away from anything, no supermarkets within about, I don't know, six to ten miles or something, so I needed to start getting deliveries, which is what I did, back then, nine years ago, be ten years in April, all the deliveries, all the supermarkets delivered with bags, so I'd order online, they would deliver the stuff, and it would be easy, because all the stuff would be in bags, I don't know why I'm just saying all the stuff's in bags,

just repeating it, but it was easy, easy, now, and they did, they started doing this a few years ago, everything just gets, no carrier bags, can't even pay to have it delivered in carrier bags, which means that if you've got lots of items that would normally be in one bag, so you might have like 15 items or 10 small items in one bag, that's one lift, that's one bend, now it's, well if you use both hands, it's maybe five bends, or ten bends, and instead of just moving the bags out of the,

so I used to do, like have the, the crates would be just in front of my front door, I'd stand in the front door, like inside, and I'd just take the bags out and put them in the hallway, now, because I have to, if this is if I get deliveries like this, which I haven't done for quite a while, I have to take, they still put the crates right in front of the front door, before ringing the doorbell, so I'll go outside the front door, I have to push the crates away from my front door,

because I then have to, I need to put all the contents of the crates into reusable carrier bags that I've got saved here, and they watch while I do it, and it's probably a bit boring for them, because I can't hurry, I try and move as fast as possible, but yeah, it's just a little bit problematic, it's the bending, that's the thing, like the constant bend, bend, bend, bend, bend, bend, I'm not really much of a bender these days, it's just, it hurts too much, it's just, I end up getting sore,

and I, yeah, just, yeah, I mean there's some things now, don't even come with plastic, or any kind of packaging, like vegetables and fruit, and who knows, I mean these, these baskets, or whatever they, they call crates, they're, put it this way, if you dropped something out of your mouth, let's say you're talking, and it fell out your mouth, and it fell onto one of these crates, you wouldn't pick it up, and put it back in your mouth, that's all I'm saying, I'm guessing, and then there was a time,

when I could walk into town, when I walk into town, go into town, I'd have to, I could get a delivery, I still can do this, if I wanted to do this, get a delivery, so I could buy all my stuff in Iceland, put it into bags, they would then put it into crates, and they would deliver it to me, so it would get delivered in bags, but having to all the way into town, seems to me, to defeat the object of a delivery, I mean personally,

I think a delivery is something that you don't have to go out for, call me old-fashioned, yeah, so it's changed, it's changed quite a lot, nowadays I, I've still got carrier bags, got reusable carrier bags, I've got some from, from the petrol station, although I did try and change, there seems to be one for, for one of theirs, they, they weren't having it, but they do bags for life, I think it's 10 pence still, maybe 15 pence, I don't know, because I don't want to, yeah, I'll try and take me own,

I'll try and take a carrier bag with me, which is, it's all right, I don't mind, but sometimes I forget, sometimes I don't intend to buy much, I might just go to, maybe buy a paper, or maybe just go and buy a bottle of water, or some milk, and a little, one of those little crappy bags is fine, but then I might get all excited, because there's a special offer on rice, or popcorn, or you know, I don't know, tampons or something, and I'm like, oh I've got to get them,

it's like five for the price of three, so you know, I've got no choice but to buy them, and then I need, I need a bag, like a carrier bag, I mean yeah, I could just pull them all into the smaller bag, that probably would, yeah, probably be all right, but didn't really want to do that, although I have done that in the past, I used to do that in, it's saying to me in Iceland, not Iceland, where did, where was I used to do that, I used to buy,

I can't remember, that's gone out of my head, I'd buy something, oh yeah, I'm thinking of the, of the pet shop, so I go in there, because they didn't have bags big enough to fit the box of dog food, like these are sachets, there'll be 48 sachets, so what I'd do is, I'd empty the sachets into a bag, or two bags, carrier bags, and ask them if they could take the box, and they would, so that, that's probably, yeah, that's what I'm thinking of,

but I just have a memory of doing that with Coke as well, by emptying the box into bags, where would I do that, maybe Sainsbury's, maybe I'd do that in Sainsbury's, because the boxes didn't always fit very well into the bag, but you can put in, oh, I have a vague memory of that, but I haven't bought anything in the supermarket for absolute yonks, and yonks, and yonks, so I'm not even sure, and I tell you what's weird, this little one here, he moves his head from left to right,

like every now and then, he moves it to the right, that's what I do, so if I'm, if I'm just on this chair, with my head against the rest, you know, the headrest, and I'm listening to some music with my eyes closed, I move over, I go to my right and to my left, and I just do that, it just naturally is what I do, and he does the same thing, so I think I might have copied from him, oh, his heart's gone a little bit, so I think he's dreaming about something,

just wake, he just woke up, now he's gone back to sleep again, and the thing is, he knows his heart's slowing down now, that's it, nice and slow, nice and calm, good boy, nice and calm, he's a funny little thing, I can't believe he's just, how long has he been like this now for, a good 10, 15, 20 minutes, he's not, I like it, I feel closer to him when he's like this, because he's so, I guess he's vulnerable, I mean, he should be able to be vulnerable with me, shouldn't he,

let's face it, but he's got his back, he's lying on his back, his belly's open, and he's just relaxed, falling asleep, yeah, he's quite a happy little boy right now, I miss the carrier bags though, there were times when I had too many, there were times in the past when I had so many, I had to chuck them out, that's a long time ago, but I found, I mean, there's been times I've used carrier bags to move my book collection, which meant I needed like a lot of carrier bags,

because I always, well, not always, but quite often in the past I've had a lot of books, I think the most I had was about a thousand books a few years back, but now I kind of got rid of a lot of those books because of where I was living, it was just too small, I moved from a fairly big room to a very, very small room, so I gave away the philosophy books, I gave away the Buddhist books, I gave away, yeah, I think that's the ones I gave away,

maybe sort of the poetry and the art of gingerbread making, it's things like that, so I just, so I ended up with just the kind of psychological counselling hypnosis therapy kind of books when I was doing the degree, and then in the end I ended up losing all of them at one point, about 2000 and 2014, I think it was, 2013, 2014 to, yeah, something like that, yeah, so I've been sort of, for a while I was building, rebuilding the collection, a couple of years ago I got quite a few hypnosis ones,

but coming now over the next year, anyway, for the next six years I've decided I'm going to get a bookcase, all right, it's going to be over there, I realise you can't see where I'm pointing, but it's over there, there's a gap, so I'm going to put a bookcase there, or the other over there, somewhere, but it's going to be just the psychology books, so what I'll get for the first year, I'll get a group, a bunch of child psychology developmental books, anything that kind of accompanies the first year of training,

and then I'll do the same for each subsequent year, so I'll probably have quite a nice little book collection, I mean even if I only get like maybe 20 books a year, still it's 120 books at the end of the six years isn't it, it's over 42 books, oh I entertain myself with my silly ways, I'm trying to think what other exciting stories I have with reusable carrier bags, I think they're useful, I like the strong ones though, because the little plastic feeble ones are just,

it's like you've got a choice of two type of bags, you've got the ones that are useless, and the ones that are pretty good, there's no in between, I mean the ones that they do in the supermarket at like the petrol station rather, is about the same, in fact it's probably less, yeah they're less good than what you get in a takeaway, a takeaway food place, so if you buy like a kebab, or if you buy Chinese takeaway, or fish chips, you probably get a better carrier bag there than you do in a petrol station,

or in a convenience store, so yeah I prefer like a bag for life, and I don't, I'll pay every time I'm not bothered, because I've got a few now, there's not a lot, I seem to be getting through them, and I had a tendency of letting people have them if someone didn't have a bag, you can have one, I've got plenty, and then I did that with the toilet roll once, and then I ran out of toilet roll, I've run out of tea bags, I've got no tea bags,

I don't know why I had to say that two different ways, tea bags I do not have, hi baby, I think he's, I didn't realise that he sleeps with his eyes open sometimes, so he does have his eyes closed when he sleeps, but sometimes he will have them open, and he can't see me, doesn't know I'm there, you know I'll be doing a little dance and nothing, dressed up as a clown and so-and-so, I thought things were going really well, but no, he's still asleep,

then other times he's got his eyes closed and he's still awake, I just don't know where I am with him, I don't know where I am, I can't believe how cute he's being tonight though, it's just weird, he's so cute, the way he's laying here with me, he's never done this while I've made a recording before, he's laid to the side of me, oh he's awake, he's awake, so I just moved my hand and he looked where my hand was, so he's awake, he's just enjoying lying here, wow, weird,

so he's wide awake, but he's just happy just to be, happy just to be lying here, not weird, I thought he was so out of it that he'd forgotten that he was where he was, but he's actually choosing to continue to lie here, I don't know, it might sound weird, I guess it's nothing, it's not really connected to reusable carrier bags, however, it just feels nice, feels really, I feel close to him, closer to him, and it's nice that he cuddles up to me now anyway, but this is,

it's like a different level, it's just, yeah, it's really nice, you like this as well don't you, you must do, he wouldn't be doing it if he didn't want to, he doesn't do anything he doesn't want to do ever, and there's nothing stopping him from just turning over and getting off, which he probably will at some point, is that right, you're lying on your tummy straight don't you, on your chest, yeah, you're a little baby aren't you, so he's had his, got some fresh water, he's had his evening meal,

and now he's having a nice little nap, nice little cuddle with daddy, so I think you're doing well aren't you, do you love you then, I love you, I love you, I love you, yes I do, yes I do, yes, listen, today has been one of those days where I just try to avoid the rain, this morning I went, had to go to the petrol station, it was sunny, I thought, oh I'll come with my raincoat on, and it was sunny and warm, when I left the petrol station,

it was raining, I was like what, so I got a little bit wet, not like hugely wet, I mean it was coming down, you want to get up, go on then, get up then, good boy, see I knew eventually he'd want to get up, good boy, yes you are, and he, it was raining like torrential at four in the morning, like really coming down, then it came down really hard at least twice during the day, and each time it comes down, it brightens up shortly afterwards, it hasn't rained for a few hours,

so if it, I don't want to take him out in it if it rains, but I will have to take him out, so before he goes to bed, always need to take him out before going to bed, because unless I just took him out, so if I take him out, let's say, let's say if I took him out at nine o'clock, I go to bed at ten, then I could probably get away with it, just you know, especially if he's had his two poos for the day, that's what he normally does, and I could probably get away with just, take, you know, I mean just going to bed, but I think I've said the word O.U.T. too many times, don't I?

Do you want a treat? Do you want a treat? All right, I'll give you a treat. So this was not a very productive recording when it comes to the actual subject matter, but I don't know, I just, I'm not, I guess this is just like a normal, this is how it's going to be, maybe, maybe I shouldn't read too much into it, to be fair, it's just a recording, isn't it?

Perhaps I didn't have quite as much to say about carrier bags as I thought who'd have thunk that, eh? Who'd have, you'd imagine after 33 years I'd have a lot of experience of carrier bags, but it seems I don't. All I'd say is I've used them for years and I find them handy, very handy, very handy.

My favourite carrier bags are the probably, the carrier bags that I get from the books in the West End, London, so whether it's books etc, whether it's foils, just those bags, I knew what was in them, books, and I love books, oh yeah, love buying books.

Now Amazon, it's not the same, it's really not, it's, it's, there's not even one percent of the enjoyment of actually going into the bookshop and, well, like how I used to like it, because they were big stores in London, like we've got a bookshop here but it's in town and it's, it's not tiny but it's not big, and if one, you know, this, if one person is kind of standing at a shelf, you can't get near the shelf, it's hard to get behind them.

Why would I want to get behind them? I'm just saying to get through to the next shelf.

In London, the bookshops are huge, so there's, there's room and if someone's, let's say, at the psychology department looking, looking at psychology books, I can walk up three or four bookcases and still be in the psychology department. That's one of the good things about the big bookshops, is the choice, I used to love it. I used to go there when I was working at Churchill, I'd go up there on a, yeah, I'm talking about pre-2003, I'd go up to London on a Saturday, maybe a Sunday, maybe, but I'd go up there and I'd come back with like 250 pounds worth of books.

And some of the books were like 20, 30 quid each, 40 pound at like, you know, and I just absolutely buzzing. It wouldn't be every week or every month, I mean, this is, this, this was not like a regular thing, but I remember once I did do that and it was, I had all these bags that were very heavy, but spent, I can't believe I spent that much money on books, but then I worked it out and it's not that many books.

It's, you know, it's like 10 books at 30 quid or something.

No, less than that, isn't it? So, yeah, there's a few books at £9.99, some were £17, but I think one of them was like 50 quid, and the other one was like 37, and just, yeah, it just added up to way too much to spend on books, but, oh man, I've never replaced them either. I replaced one of them, but some of those books I got, they were, they weren't even in print anymore.

They were available to buy, but they weren't in, you know, weren't being printed.

So the only way to get them is if like secondhand now, bearing in mind this is over 20 years ago, I have to get them on Amazon or some bookseller secondhand, or eBay potentially. I bought, I bought hypnosis books on eBay, although I'm not, I'm not so much into hypnosis like I used to be. I guess, really, I mean, I don't know.

What are you doing? I'm just stroking you. All right, don't be gnarky to me. I'm just stroking you Vinnie, I'm just giving you a nice little stroke.

That's all, that's all. So that's it for me, and I might not have talked as much about carry bags as we all would have loved, but, wow, Vinnie's come to life. I wonder how long he was lying there for, cuddling me.

It was lovely. I really enjoyed that Vinnie. I did really enjoy you hugging me, or me hugging you.

It was lovely. It was a beautiful moment. Yeah, it was.

In fact, it's probably one of the highlights of the year so far. Yes, it was. Yes, it was.

Yes, it was. Yes. So I'm going to go.

So thank you for listening. Remember to be kind to yourself, because you do deserve to be happy. Be gentle with yourself.

And I will be back here again tomorrow. Well, lots of love. I think tomorrow is trivia Tuesday, if I do believe, whether or not I actually talk about anything trivial.

Actually, you could say all my recordings are trivial, couldn't you really? Oh, so take care. Lots of love. Bye.

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