#884 Bonny Tyler & Bob Dylan - Let me bore you to sleep (Jason Newland) (25th August 2022)

Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well. Are you well? Hmm. Welcome to this, this here podcast.

My name's Jason and this is Let Me Bore You to Sleep. Hello and welcome and please remember to only listen when you can safely close your eyes, your eyes. I remember this, can you hear that? There's a bit of a squeaky stool that I'm sitting on.

I'm not on a toilet. A squeaky stool. I did my last podcast this morning.

Well, I don't know, a few hours ago, a while back. And I've not uploaded it yet, but it will be uploaded at some point. There was noise in the background that I didn't even notice when I was making the podcast.

That background, I don't know if it was the cleaners outside or in the other rooms. I don't know. But it was kind of, I couldn't really delete them because they were happening whilst I was talking.

I feel my stomach just growled. Yeah, that was a crocodile in the fridge. I hope he hasn't got out.

So, hey, yeah, my stomach's grumbling. It's time to eat. Mind you, it has been seven hours, I think, since I had my dinner or my breakfast.

So yeah, it's time to eat. So I'll do this here podcast and then I'll go and make myself, well, I'll go and eat downstairs. I won't make myself some food.

I'll tell you something, right? A breakfast, a cooked breakfast yesterday. It was like the, they call it gut buster. Okay.

But it's not really. It's, I mean, there's a local cafe, like American diner where I live, near where I live. It's, you know, about 20 minute, 25 minute walk.

And they're really, I mean, that's like a huge plate of food. So this isn't like that, but they call it the gut buster and is well plenty for me. I couldn't eat it all.

But it costs a hundred baht, which is about two pound 50 for a cooked meal, an orange, a glass of orange juice and a big cup of coffee and a foot rub. No, there was no foot rub, not a foot rub though. No, no, no, there was nothing.

It was nice. And it's like, Oh, that's like really, that's really cheap. And what I did is I went American today because I've had this little fantasy and all my life, my back is still hurting.

Oh man. I had a massage today thinking that it'd help like loosen my back, but I will not have a massage with a man, not after the one that broke my back or broke my rib rather. So I'm, I'm saying to first of all, look, be careful with my big toe because it's broken and just be gentle, you know, just, I want to like a proper firm massage and it's good, but I don't want, um, I can't have a lot of full grown man putting his weight on my back because that was, that was just too much.

So the thing is my back's the whole of my lower back or kind of middle of my back, or I guess under the ribs area, you can say like kidney area. It's not my kidneys, please God, let it not be my kidneys, but it's muscular, really feels muscular. And it's kind of the same, uh, feeling I have in my lower back.

And it's like, it's just, if I bend forward, it hurts. If I bend back, it hurts. It's really weird, but maybe having the massage is helped.

You know, it's maybe it's maybe my body is realigning. Maybe it's helping realign my body. That's what I'm trying to feel.

I'm trying to be positive about it, but you know, I started to think, what if she leans on the top of my back and she breaks my rib again and I have to go home early again because I've got a broken rib or cracked rib. I mean, that, that is like the epitome of stupidity. It's like to do the same thing twice, to not be able to learn from the previous experience is, I think in the dictionary, that is what is called stupid.

And, um, oh, my stomach is going, that's weird. If I'm hungry or I need a poo, I'm not sure. I'll wait, I'll wait it out.

See, I look at the mirror, I'm in the mirror. I'm not in the mirror, but I'm looking in the mirror now. I've got my top off.

Honestly, I look pregnant. I think I could be pregnant. I don't know what happened on that flight, but blimey.

And I don't get it because I've lost weight. So I'm actually lighter than I was before. I clearly need to lose more.

So maybe I need to get down to 90 kilos to be a bit slimmer. Well, obviously maybe I need to get down to 50 kilos to be slim. Can you imagine if half of my body weight is just in my belly? How weird would that be? That'd be strange.

It would be strange, wouldn't it? Wow. Can you imagine if I went and had liposuction? I went in, they took it, and then I walked out and I was like two foot tall and just this little stick, like, sorry, Mr. Newland. You didn't realise at the time, but all of your bodily weight and everything on all your organs were in your stomach.

I'm afraid we couldn't save it. So we've had to just, now a stick. Oh, that's nice.

Lovely. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe everything's in my stomach.

Maybe my heart, my kidneys, my liver, my brain. Wow. I mean, on some level, that's nice.

It's like, oh, I'd be an anomaly, a non-anomaly. But on the other way up, I'd be dead, wouldn't I? So yeah, it wouldn't be such a good thing. I'd be in a Guinness Book of Records.

This man who used to be alive had all his organs in his stomach. Isn't that impressive? Not so much for him. So yeah, I thought I'd do another one of these because the problem, one of the issues I've got is, one of the issues, one of the things is I'm not really able to do a hypnosis session, not really, because of the background sounds and it's going to get louder soon.

It's now two minutes to eight in the evening. By nine o'clock, it's going to be, it's going to be a lot of screaming outside, a lot of all that stuff. As it is downstairs, there is music and I'm in the quietest room in the place.

So I've got this, it's a big old room. I'd say it's almost the size of my flat, if you took the walls out. Seriously, it's that big.

You'd fit my living room and my bedroom probably in here. I might be exaggerating. Nah, probably not.

But it's nearly as big as my living room and my bedroom put together. It's a big old space. Yeah, I'd say it is.

It's big, big, big, big room. And there's a bathroom and there's a television that doesn't really work. The TV works, but there's nothing on it.

It's all fuzzy and there's no, like, I don't know how to get it working properly. But I have got my iPad so I can watch Netflix and Amazon on there. So I've managed to do that.

I've got a VPN, which is, it makes the internet secure so that other people can't get into your stuff. And also you can put in what country you're in, whatever country you choose a server from. So some places, some apps don't work if you leave the country.

They won't work in another country. So there's some apps that will only work, like TV apps, that will only work if you're in America, only work if you're in the UK. So I have to like fiddle around and to find a way of watching the stuff I want to watch.

Saying that, I've not really been watching much of anything. I listen to a bit of radio and I kind of almost, almost kind of regret doing that because I'm listening to the news from England and it's not the cheeriest thing in the world. You know, it's like, oh, maybe I should just let that go for a while.

Have a break from that. I mean, that's part of the reason I'm here. Other than all the interpersonal stuff I've got going on over in England.

A lot of rubbish to deal with, a lot of stuff, a lot of emotional stuff to do with things, which I'm not going to go into because I can't be bothered. I need to have a shave. I need to find a barber or hairdresser that will give me a shave.

And I'm thinking I need to get my toenails cut as well. It's so good to be somewhere where there's places that do that. You know, if I went to get a shave in, I don't know, in England, it'd be like £20, £25 or something silly like that.

Here, probably £2.50, £3. So yeah, you know, just things like that really, they make a difference. So I might maybe get a facial.

I don't know, just make myself look beautiful, you know. It's hard to believe it's possible to make myself look even more beautiful. But let me give it a go.

Yes. That's weird to think that when I get back into the UK, I, well not I, but there will be a new Prime Minister. A new Prime Minister.

In fact, I think next week there will be a new Prime Minister. Because I'm pretty sure they said at the end of August, maybe beginning of September, and it's near the end of August now, it's the 26th tomorrow, which is my birthday. But when you're listening to this, it might be my birthday already, depending on where you are in the world.

My birthday. 52 I am. 52.

Yeah, 52. There's worse places to spend my birthday. Isn't there? You know, I've been thinking about this.

And, wait a minute. I was trying to figure out what it is I like about this place. It's a few things I'm not hugely keen on.

But some of the things I like is, and it just dawned on me today, while I was lying in bed. I was having a little daytime nap or something. Or maybe I was in bed last night.

I can't remember. I was asleep anyway. I was laying down.

I wasn't actually asleep. I wasn't dreaming it. I was actually cognitively thinking this thing.

Or maybe it was when I was walking. Anyway, I was thinking it anyway. I feel like an alien when I'm in England.

I feel like an alien sometimes. Like I'm just a weirdo. Not part of the system.

I don't know. I feel like an alien. That's the best way I can really explain it.

I don't fit into how I guess I'm supposed to act or be. And not in a bad way. I'm not a problem child.

I don't know how to explain it really. A weirdo maybe. I'm just a bit of a weirdo.

A bit odd perhaps. A little bit shy. I can get on with people one on one.

There's more than one person. I can't really do that so much. I don't really feel the need for constant company.

You know I like to see people every now and then. Have a chat every now and then. But there's no like constant.

I don't need anyone there all the time or even every week. I can go weeks, months without seeing people and it doesn't bother me. There's something I kind of feel even just walking down the street.

I feel bit of an alien. A bit weird. But here I feel like an alien.

But I am an alien here. I'm alien. I don't speak the language.

I don't know what anyone's saying. I don't know what anyone means. But then I don't know what a lot of people mean anyway when I'm in England.

I'm not really sure where they're coming from. What they're saying. Why they're saying that.

What is their intention. What's the reason. And there's a lot of fakery and insincerity.

And I was like I can't always kind of figure it out if it's real. Here I don't know either. But I'm not supposed to know because I can't speak the language.

I don't know what everyone's saying. I don't know. It's almost it doesn't matter how I'm being perceived because I'm an alien to them.

I'm just a westerner. Saying that I might not. I might be from South Africa.

They don't know that. I might. I might have been born in China.

They don't know do they. But they kind of assume by the way I look that I'm a westerner. Which I am a westerner.

And it's quite nice to be an alien. It's almost like okay cool. I can be an alien.

And I don't have to feel like an alien. Because it doesn't matter. That probably doesn't make any sense at all.

Doesn't necessarily make sense to me. I'm going to have a drink. That was one word.

Doesn't make sense to me. I'm going to have a drink. All in one word.

Sentence on my back. By the way if you hear a creak and it's not my back. It's the stool.

It's the stool that I'm punishing by sitting on. Oh dear. So yeah.

I don't know. It's something quite nice about being able to walk around and no one knows who you are. No one cares who you are.

No one cares who I am. No one knows who I am. And it's almost their assumptions could be anything.

But I'm just going to be categorized by all the other foreigners that are here. All the other aliens. That's a weird.

Did you hear that? Other aliens. I really should sort out how to speak. You'd think I'd know wouldn't you before doing a podcast.

I should learn to speak correctly. I brought my Kindle book. Well my Kindle with me.

So I'm going to do a bit of reading. But I need to find somewhere comfortable to sit because there's no chair in here. It's only cushions or pillows rather and leaning up against the bed.

Or leaning at the end of the bed. And that's not comfortable. Which is weird because I spent most of my adult life living like that.

Just with a bed, watching TV, eating, everything like just in one room with a bed. But now I'm not used to that. I haven't sat up in bed doing anything for over seven years.

Well over six years. So it's just I don't do that anymore. So now doing it, maybe that's what's causing my back.

But I don't think I've done enough, spent enough time doing that to cause any kind of issues. Because it's been literally just for a few minutes here and there that I've done that. Just while I'm uploading the recordings or you know doing a little bit of stuff on the online.

So what I really really could do with is a desk. A desk and a chair. You know but also a comfy chair.

Yeah, just a comfy chair to sit in so I can read. And a desk and a chair so I can do, okay you know make the podcast and do the editing and everything like that on there. But I don't have that.

I mean I have this dresser with a mirror and I've now got a glass with a toilet roll and the memory, big memory card thing with the microphone balanced on top. It's a bit of a weird setup but hey. I may take a picture so you can see it.

Just it can be the picture of my Thailand days, my Thailand diaries. I mean some of you might think, well why are you doing another recording? Why are you doing another one two in two days? Yeah well, I don't know. It kind of feels like I've almost got something to talk about for the first time in ages.

Although some may say, some may say that I didn't really discuss much of what happened on my last trip to Thailand. So I don't know. Maybe I did.

I can't remember because I don't know what I've spoken about. I don't know what I've said. I don't know what I've said you know in my podcast.

I don't remember. As soon as I've recorded it, I've, well as soon as I've said it, I've forgotten I've said it. See, can't remember what I said.

But I can remember that I can't remember what I said. Which probably doesn't really work, does it? Maybe, maybe, baby, maybe, baby, baby, baby, baby. So maybe let me know if you like this.

Send me a message. Jason Newland at Hotmail.co.uk. Also my PayPal thing as well. Oh, he's begging again.

He's a stinking beggar. He said his PayPal account. Oh, snake helm, snake, snake oil merchant.

No, I'm just, oh dear. I had people, oh man, you wouldn't believe some of the stuff I had in the early days of doing this on Facebook. Because I used to share my videos and stuff like that, podcasts onto Facebook pages or Facebook groups.

And I was hammered. Charlatan, charlatan. Oh, Antichrist.

Like, blimey. It's like I'm trying to help people here. I'm just trying to spread, spread the word.

That sounds a bit bad, doesn't it? Spread the, spread the good news. I just wanted to spread what I was doing, let more people know about the free service and perhaps some people may benefit. Perhaps some, lots of people won't, but some people might.

That was my, that was my attitude in the day. And after all these years, 17 years. Is it 17 years? It was January 2006 when I really started focusing on the internet, making like podcasts.

And although it's not totally true, I did make some recordings for my website in 2004 and 5. But that, that's, that, that was just on my website. I didn't ever, didn't put them on any podcasts or anything like that. But I don't know how many years is that then? 2006, 2007, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22.

So is it 16 years? 16 and a half years? 16 years, 8 months? I don't know. Something like that. So it's a while, a while.

And all I was doing was, weird thing about it is, what was it? The one before Facebook, Myspace. Myspace was so cool. I never, I'm not, I'm sure it happened, but I never saw any kind of negativity on Myspace.

It was a bunch of artists, generally. I know that it, a lot of people joined there for social, it was the first big social network site, as far as I'm aware. And a lot of people joined it, but it was primarily, primarily started for musicians, and then other people discovered it and maybe ruined it.

I don't know, maybe. Because it's, they relied, it grew so big. And the majority of people on there were just general people, not musicians.

And then when Facebook came along, most of those people seemed to just move over to Facebook. But Myspace was really good for, I mean, the primary thing that I went on there for was to upload, I could upload both videos and audio, which is really, really cool. Oh, weird thing on my shoulder.

So, and that's what I did. I uploaded videos, uploaded audios, I got so much positive feedback from these videos and audios that I uploaded on Myspace in 2006. So much, like really, you know, it's no, I don't recall any horrible messages.

It was all, oh, well done, keep going. I think even from people that didn't particularly like what I was doing, they were supportive, like, you know, excuse me, keep, keep at it. Not even keep at it, you might get good one day.

Not even that, like, it was just like, yeah, good for you. And I was one of the only people, one of the few, because I searched, and there was very few people, in fact, I don't know if anyone at the time was doing hypnosis on Myspace. I don't think I could find anyone, but there might well have been other people doing it.

But it was a small, small number of people. And I really, it was, if it hadn't been for Myspace, I probably wouldn't have continued. Because I got such good positive feedback.

It gave me a certain degree of confidence. And I felt good, you know, to continue because I knew that the quality of the recordings weren't very good. The videos weren't very good quality.

The sound wasn't very good quality. Perhaps even my, my performance, if you want to call it performance, wasn't particularly great. Possibly never been great, but perhaps wasn't, you know, wasn't the best it could have been.

But because I got that positive feedback from people that I didn't know, and I was getting like 10,000 downloads, people watching the videos, stuff like that, like really quickly. Like more small, I mean, it just really was quick. YouTube took quite a while to sort of build up on my original podcast, my original YouTube channel.

But Myspace was quick. Whistling again while I talk. Quick.

Myspace was quick. I asked my brother's birthday today. I phoned him up.

Yeah, I did. I just phoned him up on WhatsApp to wish him a happy birthday. Because his birthday is a day before mine.

You keep mentioning it's your birthday. I'm not mentioning my birthday, I'm mentioning his birthday. So he's 44 today.

And he's, it was about one, just after one o'clock in the afternoon when I called him. And I thought he'd be at work. And he wasn't, he was at home.

And he was just about to go out with his girlfriend to go out for a meal. So I was like, oh, good for you. He had a day off and he's just spending it with his wife.

So that was nice. And so it's really nice to speak to him, just like happy birthday. But I said to him, I got a message from me dad, from our dad, a couple of days ago saying, when I told him that I'd arrived safely in Thailand, because I spoke to him the day before saying I was going.

And he said, oh, let us know when you get there safely. I said, okay. So I got there.

Well, I got here safely and I let him know. And I said, yeah, I'm here. And he said, oh, and then he replied and said, have a good, have a long, have a good long rest.

Kiss, kiss. And I'm thinking, is he being sarcastic? Because I'm pretty sure, pretty, pretty sure he doesn't believe that I need a rest from anything. Even though I, you know, put a lot of effort into the things I do do to, you know, to try and help people.

He doesn't, he's not really aware of that. And I'm also helping other people like where I live and kind of, yeah, there's a lot going on. Again, I don't mention it on these podcasts, but there's a lot of stuff going on that I kind of, some fairly, my time is taken up with stuff and it's, I felt like he's just making fun of me.

It might not have been, it might've just been a standard thing and I shouldn't really look into it really, should I, but look too much into it, but it's have a long rest, good long rest. Like I really don't think he's ever thought that I needed a rest. Even when I was working, I'm sure he didn't really believe I was working hard.

And I have, I'm a very hard worker. That's what, that's, that's one thing I can say about myself, providing I'm in a job where work is possible. What do you mean by that? Well, let me explain.

Sometimes I've had jobs that specifically in retail where there was nothing to do. It's really windy. There was a storm last night, started thundering and lightning and it was very, very frightening.

I can't help it. Sorry. Can you hear that? The wind, I'm going to open a window so you can hear it.

Wait a sec. Can you hear that? It's proper raining. It's almost monsoon.

Blimey. See when it rains here, it rains and it floods. Honestly, it rained last night, but I was, I was in bed and I was, I was, I was, I was in bed.

Why can't I just like normal sentence? Just I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm repeating myself a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. I don't know why. Uh, yeah.

So there was this thunder and lightning and there was where I am. I don't want to generalize Thailand, like everywhere is the same. It's obviously different places have got different things, but where I am, there's a lot of electrical cables all wrapped up a head, you know, like above, above ground.

And some of them are quite low down and I could hear them buzzing like like that. And they couldn't have been more than like three, four foot from my head. Some of them like maybe two foot from my, you know, this quite low down.

I was trying to avoid them, which is not that hard for me because I'm only three foot tall, but it's, I was thinking, if electricity, if one of those gets hit by the thing, then that's, that's, that's me. And I don't, I didn't really want that. I wasn't, I wasn't quite in the mood if I'm honest.

So, uh, I gotta be, I gotta, I gotta be in the mood for something like that. So I just, it's weird hearing that rain. So it's rain and it's windy.

So it's more than, it's more the rain that I can hear than the wind, but it is windy as well, but it's very lush outside. There's lots of greenery, lots of plants and trees as palm trees and stuff like that. So the rain is smashing them.

So that's a lot of what you hear. But you know what? When I go downstairs, it might be flooded outside. I might not be able to go out.

And you know what? I don't care. I don't need to go out. I'm quite happy to go downstairs.

When I finish this recording, have something to eat, come back upstairs and just watch, watch Netflix for a couple of hours. Um, I'm actually watching Amazon, the paper girls. It's a good TV show.

It's good. I like it. It's like a time traveling show.

Cause I like that. So I watched that and just chill out. Cause that's one of the good things about, I've never really been on holiday before.

Not really. But last time I came here, it wasn't a holiday. I was in absolute pain with my rib after the second day, I stuck it out for another 12 days or another 11 days.

I don't know how, cause I didn't get sleep or anything, you know, so really painful. No painkillers. And I didn't enjoy, I enjoyed parts of it.

I was drinking a little bit and I did go out a bit, but it wasn't relaxing. Cause I was kind of, um, with someone a lot of the time and like hanging out and going places and just, it wasn't relaxing for me. For me, this is relaxing.

Just not doing anything. Well, I'm doing something for me. This is work.

It's not work. I know it's not work, but it's not hard and it's not laborious and it's not, I wasn't going to make any money, but so that's the opposite to working really, isn't it? But it's, I feel useful. Does that make sense? I feel useful.

I feel that I'm of use. I'm contributing to society. I tried to explain this to my social worker and I said, well, I realized I'm not contributing to the local society cause I'm not working a job and I'm not, you know, not working in a local business and stuff like that.

But with my podcasts and my, you know, my online stuff that I do, I feel that I'm contributing to the, like the world society, you know, overall like a much more spread out society. And I know there's only probably three people in each country actually listen to me maybe, but maybe a bit more, but you know, it's, it's almost, I feel like I'm contributing something like, um, there's a point to my existence. And if I'm sorry, if I'm getting all deep, I can't help it.

I was just listening to Bob Dylan. It happens when I listen to that man, I start getting, I start thinking, no, not thinking. Yeah.

Thinking. No. So I'm going to, yeah, I might just stay in tonight.

I quite like listening to the rain. I might open a window, but I kind of, the old mozzies might get in. So although the rain, I imagine the old rain will splatter any mosquitoes that try and fly in this.

They'll be hiding. I imagine underneath the leaves, that's like a roof for them. That's their umbrellas.

Ella, Ella, Ella. So yeah. Wow.

It was like that when I was in bed about five, six o'clock this morning and I come out when I went out for a walk earlier and there was parts of the ground that was still got big puddles, but I all like the edge of the ground. It was dry because with this heat, I tell you when I'm in the bathroom, I'm having a shower and you know, the window, the mirror gets all steamed. The second I opened the bathroom door, the window cleans, it clears like instantly, like dry, completely instantly, not because of the heat or the coolness or whatever it is, the difference in temperature when I opened the door.

That doesn't happen at home. You know, it happens, but it's, it takes a little while, but this is instant and it's not just, it becomes clear. It becomes dry and clear straight away.

Now, maybe I shouldn't get excited about things like that. Maybe, maybe I have to have a good old talk to myself, have a good old, give myself a good old talking to as Bob Dylan says, but see, I love, I love Bob. I love myself some Bob.

I do. I can't help it. And you know, he was, it was voted in.

I don't know what it was. One of the, one of the rock, it might be rock and roll magazines. One of the magazines, you know, that deals with music and might remember, is it MSN and music? I don't know, but they voted Bob Dylan in the top 100 best singers.

I think they even voted in the top 10. And a lot of people, I'm pretty sure would look at and think that is ridiculous. And even I thought it's, there was part of me thinking, I was both sides thinking, first of all, yeah, of course.

And another part of thinking, yeah, it can only be of course, if you don't compare him to other people, that's where it fits in. So, you know, as a singer, Whitney Houston, Stevie Wonder, Elvis Presley, the list is endless of people that could sing that you would say was a much higher level singer, as far as singing, singing goes. You could probably say that about opera singers or, you know, but for uniqueness, no one sounded like Bob Dylan.

I've not heard anyone that sounds like Bob Dylan. No one sounds like Bob Dylan. But then I don't think anyone sounds like Dolly Parton or Elvis or Terrence Trent Darby or Tracy Chapman, the distinctive voices.

And you know, recently, oh, I got very excited. This is when I was back, this is when I used to live in England. I was on YouTube and I got this urge to do a little bit of research on Bonnie Tyler, because Bonnie Tyler is up there, that totally clips the heart.

There's no song better than that, as far as I'm concerned. Well, I had to do a little pause then, sorry about that. You know, I talked about my stomach grumbling earlier, what it could be.

Well, it wasn't through hunger. That's all I'm going to say. So, yeah, what was I talking about, Dolly Parton? No, Bonnie Tyler.

Now, when I was in hospital having my appendix out, there was two songs that I asked for, but I think the main one was, I was 12, I think, and the hospital radio came around. One of the people from the hospital radio came around and said, Would you like to song? Would you like a song dedicated to you? And I said, Yeah, I was very excited. And I said, Yeah, can you play me? I think it was Tyler clips of the heart.

But at the same time, in my memory, I also asked for Down Under by Men at Work. And there were both similar periods of time when those songs were out in my memory, I might be, I might be wrong. But I think out of the history of songs during my lifetime, there's so many amazing songs.

Thousands probably that I love. It's gonna be thousands. I can't name them all.

But if I did research and I really look through every single song that's been released since my birth. And then just looking through every single album of every band. And I could, you know, there'd be 1000s of songs I absolutely love.

100, at least five, at least 50. Yeah, at least. There's lots and lots.

I don't know how many but lots. And I think that totally clip totally clips at a heart is probably it's got to be at the top of the list for me. Now, Men at Work, Down Under is also at the top of the list.

However, I kind of prefer the other two songs that they did the really big songs, Who Can It Be Now and Day After Day Disagree. I forget the name of it. But that was so they did two other songs that I really like.

But I think for the Down Under when I hear it, it just brightens my soul. It does. If there's something about it, it's like do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.

It's like, well, it just lifts me. And so yeah, there's those songs. There's lots of songs I love.

But I thought, hmm, Bonnie Tyler. Hmm. Because I could only remember her doing The Hero.

Everybody needs a hero. No. There's a hero.

There's a hero. Oh. Everybody got to do.

No. Everybody needs. I can't remember.

There's a song that's got hero in it that I remember. However, I went on YouTube and there was two other songs that I remember that I'd forgotten about. Such an amazing voice.

And it was interesting because there was someone on YouTube watching, you know, do those reaction videos. And this American bloke was watching or is watching a video of Bonnie Tyler. It might be totally clips of the heart or one of the others.

And he was saying, oh, she sounds like. Oh, what is his name? Rod Stewart. What's his name? Yeah, I've always thought that like she was like a female version of Rod Stewart.

And that huskiness of the voice. Absolutely amazing. And my saddest moment is when she went on The Voice as a contestant, not as a celebrity, but as an actual contestant on The Voice, you know, did a blind audition and they turned.

No one turned around. And it's really upset you to actually upset me because she's one of the icons of my life, my musical childhood, you know, early life when I was like 11, 12, 13, whatever. And for me, she was she's an iconic legend.

As far as I'm concerned, she is. She should be in that category. And you say, well, she didn't.

OK, she. She didn't hit the superstardom and the longevity of someone like Aretha Franklin and Whitney Houston and stuff like that. But she was huge.

She was a huge star, not just in England. I know she's Welsh, but she's also in America. Huge, huge, huge star.

And. I was. I couldn't understand why Meatloaf didn't use her, didn't ask her to sing the song, you know, if if I do anything but that song.

Because she had the perfect voice, because the person singing it had a very growly, I say growly with respect. She had a growler voice, you know, but lovely, amazing, amazing voice. To be actually to start with, I thought maybe it could be Bonnie Tyler, because you think about it.

She was still young, Bonnie, back then. She was a Bonnie lass. I mean, she was think about it as a pun in it.

She was what night in 82. So there was only 90. Was it 91, wasn't it? Or 92? I'll do anything for love.

I won't do that. So that was. Yeah, Bonnie Tyler, why didn't get her to do that? The thing is, they didn't even show the person in the video that sung it.

The lady that sang it was a session singer or something like that. This is my this is my recollection of the story. And they just got her into the studio because they needed someone to sing.

And this just to I think it was almost to rehearse that part. And I said, oh, yeah, we like that. We'll keep that.

And the lady in the video is someone completely different. Why don't I just have her in the video? It's her singing. I don't get it.

I don't know. I mean, it's hard. You can't really pull fault in the video because it was one of the most successful songs of the 90s, wasn't it? It was huge, huge hit.

And one of his biggest hits. In fact, it probably was his biggest hit. Even though he did massive with all the others that he did, you know, about hell and back into hell and shouting like a bat and those those other songs.

My favorite Meatloaf song. Does anyone want to know? Are you interested? Are you even mildly interested? I'm going to tell you. And this song was on the radio back in early 80s.

Early 80s, maybe 83, 84. Yeah, not still early 80s, but probably moving towards the middle 80s, probably about 84, I would say, because I remember what bedroom I was in. I was upstairs at the top of the house.

And I used to get woken up by my clock radio ready for school. So and I woke up to this song and it was him Meatloaf. I didn't really know about Meatloaf, if I'm honest, that wasn't really my.

I had heard that hell, but it wasn't my era. It wasn't, you know, it was wasn't really my kind of music. I was more into.

Well, 80s stuff like modern, you know, all the stuff that was out at the time, Adam and the Ants, Duran Duran, Wham! and all that stuff, but also like 60s stuff. Like the monkeys and I like Buddy Holly, which of 50s, isn't it? Late 50s. So I was very, um, I suppose into the more gentler music.

But Bat Out of Hell, I can't say Bat Out of Hell without stuttering for some reason. It's an amazing song. But he did a song in about 1984, 83, 84.

And it was with Cher. And it was Addicted to Love or something, was it? Something like that. I don't know what to do.

Tell me, tell me. I don't know how to do anything about it, baby, but you're everything I'm dreaming of. There's nothing I can do.

I'm a real, real wet, what's that? A real wet swinger for love. A real dead ringer for love or something like that. I don't know.

And equally, they both equally shone equally and sung equally brilliantly in that song, I thought. And I think because I was half awake when I heard it, it tapped into my psyche a little bit. And I'll always love that song.

And I recorded, I recorded it once and I at least listened to it over and over again, because I loved it so much. And the video was really good as well, because they're dancing in a bar and I didn't really know who Cher was either. I didn't realize it was the same Cher that was, I got you, babe, I got you, babe.

And I was like, this is the different singer altogether. And then, of course, Cher did the. It had loads, quite a few hits, didn't she, in the late 80s.

What was that one? Is he in his, by his kiss or whatever. And then she did that one in the 90s. Who would believe in love after love, in a field of silly as well with a board.

That one. So that was good as well. So, yeah, I know she's about 93 now, but phenomenal voice, Cher.

As you notice, you've got a voice that is recognizable. And I think that's, that's really, that's something that really is useful, I think, for singers if they've got, because no one sounds like Cher, I don't think. Tracy Chapman, who sounds like Tracy Chapman? There may be people out there that are not famous that do, but I've not heard anyone that sounds like her.

I don't think so. Buddy Holly. Stevie Wonder.

Bob Dylan. That's how we got to this, wasn't it, by Bob Dylan. You may wonder why I'm not talking about my Thailand trip.

I'm talking about, this is how it works, you know, I just talk about whatever's in my mind and then whatever enters my mind. And because I can only hold one thought at a time, everything else goes. So I'll be honest, I forgot I was here.

I could have been anywhere in the world, it wouldn't made any difference. Once I get talking about something that I'm interested in, you know, like music and Bob Dylan, I love Bob Dylan. The first time I'd heard about Bob Dylan, you can't really be alive without, in my era, in my period of lifespan.

So to go through the 70s, the 70s and 80s and not have heard of Bob Dylan was, it's pretty much impossible in a sense of, you don't necessarily have to know who he is or what he does or anything, but you'll have heard the name at some point because he was such a huge star, especially like in the 70s, the 60s and 70s, like such a massive star. So I'd heard of him and I had heard the, I'm pretty sure I'd sort of probably heard some of his songs, but didn't take any notice.

And then in 1991, or it might be in 89, I bought, I think it might be 91, I bought a best of Bob Dylan album, it was a tape, double tape cassette.

And I listened to it on a tube, so I had my little Walkman and I had my headphones on and it just blew my mind. That's all I listened to constantly, but not at work, but it was my thing. I listened to that, I wore it out and it was, it was just phenomenal, mind blowing, just the genius and the things that he was saying.

And I was listening to stuff that was from 20, 25 years previous, like Blowing in the Wind and things like that from the 60s and then stuff. And then I discovered the 70s albums that he did. And my favourite one, although Highway 67 or Highway 73 or whatever, I've just been listening to that today.

I like that one as well, of course, well, not of course, but I do. I've listened, I've liked every album I've heard of his and every album of his I've ever heard has always got, even if I've not heard, even if I don't know all the tracks, I always know at least one or maybe two, because they're on his greatest hits. Like they're just, like Annie's just, I was gonna say Annie's Farm, but there's lots of different songs.

But I got the, there's a couple of albums, I forget one of them, but there was one, Blood on the Tracks. I've still got it, but I've got that on Spotify now. But I have owned it, but I listened to it on Spotify rather, but I used to own it on CD, I owned it on cassette.

And it's one of my favourite albums ever. Like I love every single song on that album. Blood on the Tracks, if you've never heard it, if you like Bob Dylan, you think, oh, he's all right, or you like, you know, maybe you like the greatest, greatest hits or just maybe give Blood on the Tracks a listen.

It's a really good album, it's really, and I'm not really into, I'm, I guess the word eclectic probably does, does fit with me. I like lots of different things. I'm not, I'm not all into just one thing, not just rock or soul.

Although, you know, I like to listen to, I like to listen to lots of different things. I do, I love the Bee Gees as well. I love 80s songs, I like to listen to a bit of Wham!, but I like to listen to some of the new stuff as well.

Realistically though, I'm not as in touch with new music as I used to be. I used to be really in touch with it. I used to be a DJ, so I kind of had to be at one point.

But now, you know, I made a real effort to listen to the top 50 charts every Sunday at four o'clock in the afternoon for years and years and years and years, listen to it every week, just so I was up to date with the latest songs. Not for any other reason, but just to keep myself in the loop a little bit. And gradually over time, I just lost that habit.

And perhaps I need to get back into that because it's, every now and then I'd hear a song that I absolutely loved. So, you know, I'm not one of these, no good songs been made since 1989 kind of attitude, like, no, that's just ridiculous. Maybe my favourite songs are from the early 80s, most of them maybe, like from, you know, that period.

But I love songs from everywhere, even the 50s, even the 40s even. There's some amazing songs everywhere. I just love different songs.

So maybe I'll do that one day. I'll have a little look through all, maybe I'll do it as a podcast and just talk you through it. That'd be really boring.

Anyway, I'm going to have something to eat. I've got a little bit gap in my stomach now so I can eat. So thanks for listening.

Remember to be kind to yourself because you deserve to be happy and just, you know, be gentle. In some ways, being gentle to yourself is possibly the most important thing. Now notice, if you're being harsh with yourself about yourself, just go a little bit gentle, you know, give yourself a bit of space.

Because remember, we are with ourselves. No one knows you like yourself and no one's spent every moment of your life with you except you. You're the only person.

So surely being nice to yourself, being gentle with yourself, being kind is important. In fact, what could be more important, really, in a way? And I'm going to repeat this because I've said it before. I guess that's what repeating something means, isn't it? But something I used to say to some of my clients, and I said this in my early recordings 15 odd years ago, 12 years, I don't know how many years ago, just a sentence, would you say that to a small child?

So if you find yourself saying something to yourself, you know, that internal dialogue, would you go up to a small child, someone that you really, really love, like your own child, your grandchild, your niece, nephew, maybe just a random child in the street, and say something like that to them, knowing that it's probably going to make them cry? Would you, you know, and I think if the answer's no, then why do it to yourself? You're as important as that small child.

You deserve kindness just like the small child does. So that's all I've got to say on that subject. So when I say be kind to yourself because you deserve to be happy, it's not just a platitude, it's actually, I've thought this through, and I can talk for an hour about it if you want me to, and I know you don't, I know you don't want me to talk for an hour about that, but I can, and I have in the past.

So take care. Bye.